RB Melvin Gordon, BAL (2 Viewers)

[ZADO]

I have zero bias...it's not like Gordon let up or the play was dead...it was pretty bang bang. The

We’ll disagree then, he was clearly down and the play was over.

Seems to me it's somewhere in the middle. Yes, he was clearly down before it came out, but it's not like he gave himself up and tossed the ball away, he still coughed it up. I'm pretty sure the coaches aren't happy about it.

At this point im guessing he`s so focused on not fumbling that he`s killing his own confidence and scared to death of it happening. It could affect his running style

 

[Judge Smails]

I have no doubt Gordon is the better all around back if he doesn’t fumble. Zero. Boone is known as a liability with pass blocking. Latavius not the receiving threat. Hard running plodder but he can get positive yards. It was a positive that they trusted Gordon on the last drive.

 

[rockaction]

Another landing spot I thought made a lot of sense is NYJ. They are MILES away from being significant and by the time they are it will be time to jettison the RB they just traded up for in the 2nd round. You can't convince me that 4 years of Hall at RB is worth more than either an edge(Ojabo/Mafe) or CB(Booth/Gordon) for a second contract AND whoever you take with #146

This aged like horrendous flatulence in a Bell jar.

Hall just dropped 100/100 today. Why don't you come back and eat your pudding, @BoltBacker, or did you get banned or something? Your name won't come up in the "@'s"

 

[rockaction]

That's fine. Most people have them either going 5-12 this season or 6-11. Which is a fairly big jump for a team that has gone 6-27 over the past two years. People are expecting a fairly huge jump in winning percentage already. I guess my point is they aren't in the middle of a rebuild.... they are still mixing concrete to pour the foundation of a rebuild. And for the record, they didn't "take a RB in the second round". They traded up for the right to select a RB in the second round. Worst of all, they had to trade up for their own pick to draft the RB in the second round because they had already traded up for a pass rusher in a draft full of pass rushers. But I'll go down your points.

First, you are right they decided to pass on the elite pass protectors with their first pick in the draft. With Becton "almost at 100%" from a week 1 injury from last year I probably would have gone with an OT as their 1st pick but honestly I would draft OL higher than most NFL teams seem to value OL. It just makes "to help Zack Wilson" talk ring a little hollow to me.

Second, I don't think Mafe, Ojabe, or Paschell had major question marks. In fact that's precisely why I think a 6-27 team shouldn't have traded up to 26 for Johnson. I'm strongly in the belief that NFL teams aren't as good at picking individual picks as they think they are so trading up and losing picks in the process is a pretty bad idea but never more so when you are trying to upgrade a roster with a .182 winning percentage over the past two seasons. If anything those teams need MORE picks to replace the players that have proven they don't really belong on an NFL roster.

Third, I have no doubt that it's entirely possible the NYJ woudn't have been able to draft anyone worthwhile with pick #146. But that doesn't mean that the pick doesn't have value. The LA Rams, who not only have eclipsed a .182 winning percentage but have recently won a SB, have used the #146 pick or later to find starters like David Edwards, Sebastian Joseph-Day, Jordan Fuller and depth players like Ogbannia Okoronkwo and Micah Kiser.

Fourth, if ANY PART of the reasoning for a 6-27 team is "Well, we already got three guys in this draft" then that part of team building is broken almost beyond repair. I just disagree even if the Jets were a Super Bowl champion.

Fifth, probably has the most holes. I completely agree they should be doing everything under their power to help Zack Wilson look better than David Mills because if you are comparing how they have looked in the NFL so far it's a blowout and Mills wins that contest by a wide margin. I know, I know "but Mills got to play with the UBER talented HOU roster!" people will say. FWIW HOU drafted Thomas Booker with a pick after #146 and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he contributed to HOU being slightly better than if they didn't have the pick but I digress. So if helping Wilson is job #1 I likely would have taken one of the blue chip OT's with their 1st pick. They didn't. But the Jets could have used pick #69 to draft either Abraham Lucas or Berhard Raimann.... if they hadn't already traded up to take a pass rusher in a draft where they already had pass rushers available to them at their own pick near the top of the second round. In a world where pick #146 has no value can we at least agree that pick #69 has SOME VALUE? BTW, I don't even dislike Max Mitchell but there is no way I would have taken him over Lucas and Raimann. Had they not used the Max Mitchell pick at OT they could have had a RBBC of Carter/Isaiah Spiller or Zamir White/Gordon/Coleman instead of Hall/Carter/Coleman. To make this point crystal clear I think the Jets are horrible because of the QB position much more than whatever their RBBC is and helping protect the QB means more than shuffling the RB chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

I didn't even realize I was making some sort of hot analytics take that a single RB as part of a RBBC has been de-emphsized in the NFL. For a long time. A long, long time. The past EIGHT Superbowl champions have had ONE thousand yard rusher on the roster. That guy was named LeGarrett Blount for the Eagles in 2017 who they signed coming off a 3.9y/rush year. The Eagles signed him a huge one year contract for 1yr/$2.8mil in his age 31 season. (shrug) That sounds an awful lot like Melvin Gordon to me. Maybe I'm an outlier because I never thought Melvin Gordon was some stud to begin with just because he produced fantasy stats. He was always a solid plugger to me just like Blount, and imo he's still the same solid plugger. It's important to have a RUNNING GAME, it's less important to have a RUNNING BACK imo. Again, if that's some sort of new analytical hot take I'll take the heat for that opinion.

Maybe I'm wrong and Breece Hall will magically turn into the first round Fred Taylor type that he seemed to morph into after the college football season had ended(oddly enough). It just seems to me based on how the Super Bowl champions seem to be trending riding Hall to thousand yard seasons and treating day 3 picks as expendable doesn't seem like the formula to win a SB. And for that matter maybe the Jets MIGHT go from 6-27 to 6-11 which let's be honest is a pretty huge jump in winning % based on drafting Hall. If THAT is the victory you are ultimately looking for I agree that trading up for Hall may do that for you. So maybe we agree on more than you think we do. I do watch PFF on youtube from time to time but I can honestly tell you my opinions are not shaped in anyway by them. So if they agree with you and the last PFF guy has reluctantly admitted that the best team building for a 6-27 team is to trade up into the top 40 for a RB...... then I'm fine with being on an island.

 

[Drake Hater]

Any insight on this neck injury? Can't risk having him in the lineup if he's trending out or limited. Sucks because this matchup is ideal.

 

[Rubi]

Any insight on this neck injury? Can't risk having him in the lineup if he's trending out or limited. Sucks because this matchup is ideal.

Nothing except for J.Bramel quote "trending on the probable side of questionable",for what it's worth

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Any insight on this neck injury? Can't risk having him in the lineup if he's trending out or limited. Sucks because this matchup is ideal.

All I’ve read seems to indicate he’ll play, and IMO he’ll dominate RB touches.

 

[Faust]

Melvin Gordon rushed three times for eight yards in the Broncos' Week 6 loss to the Chargers Monday night.​

He wasn't targeted in the passing game. Gordon didn't even touch the ball in the second half and might not have even played a snap after the break. After three carries, the coaches decided to ride Latavius Murray in his Broncos debut, handing it to the 32-year-old newcomer 14 times in the second half. Gordon stood on the sideline by himself in disbelief at his lack of playing time. This situation could come to a head, as Gordon has looked frustrated a number of times early this year. If the Murray trend continues, Gordon obviously can't be anywhere near fantasy lineups next week against the Jets.
Oct 17, 2022, 11:55 PM ET

 

[Drake Hater]

Well that sucked.

 

[matttyl]

Yeah, WTF was that? He didn’t fumble, had a few carries to start the game and that was it?

 

[zamboni]

Yeah, WTF was that? He didn’t fumble, had a few carries to start the game and that was it?

Hard to say but it seemed like even before Javonte's injury, Gordon wasn't exactly in favor. Maybe it was the fumbles or something beyond that, but seemed like they went with Gordon last week because he and Boone were the guys left on a short week. Clearly they like Murray more, as Boone had only one carry himself.

 

[Blick]

Yeah, WTF was that? He didn’t fumble, had a few carries to start the game and that was it?

Hard to say but it seemed like even before Javonte's injury, Gordon wasn't exactly in favor. Maybe it was the fumbles or something beyond that, but seemed like they went with Gordon last week because he and Boone were the guys left on a short week. Clearly they like Murray more, as Boone had only one carry himself.

Javonte can't be a bell cow, but Murray can. Jesus.

 

[zamboni]

Yeah, WTF was that? He didn’t fumble, had a few carries to start the game and that was it?

Hard to say but it seemed like even before Javonte's injury, Gordon wasn't exactly in favor. Maybe it was the fumbles or something beyond that, but seemed like they went with Gordon last week because he and Boone were the guys left on a short week. Clearly they like Murray more, as Boone had only one carry himself.

Javonte can't be a bell cow, but Murray can. Jesus.

Javonte may have been had he not gotten hurt, but it's futile trying to figure out anything that coaching staff is doing.

 

[Banger]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Yeah, WTF was that? He didn’t fumble, had a few carries to start the game and that was it?

Hard to say but it seemed like even before Javonte's injury, Gordon wasn't exactly in favor. Maybe it was the fumbles or something beyond that, but seemed like they went with Gordon last week because he and Boone were the guys left on a short week. Clearly they like Murray more, as Boone had only one carry himself.

Javonte can't be a bell cow, but Murray can. Jesus.

Right??? the coaches are absolutely awful there. they will be fired at the end of the year

 

[Smack Tripper]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

 

[Banger]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

 

[zamboni]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

Could be one of the teams sniffing around Cam Akers. Would more easily enable them to move on from Gordon.

 

[Mongidig]

Yeah, WTF was that? He didn’t fumble, had a few carries to start the game and that was it?

He can’t be trusted anymore. I think he’s done with the Broncos. The Broncos liked what they saw from Murray and probably decided to be done with Gordon.

 

[Mongidig]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

Could be one of the teams sniffing around Cam Akers. Would more easily enable them to move on from Gordon.

Only if Akers is released. I don’t see them giving up picks for him.

 

[zamboni]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

Could be one of the teams sniffing around Cam Akers. Would more easily enable them to move on from Gordon.

Only if Akers is released. I don’t see them giving up picks for him.

They could probably get him for a conditional 6th or 7th at most given the way the Rams have telegraphed their plans to offload Akers.

ETA: all that said, they did trade a lot of draft capital for Wilson, so they may indeed be reticent to trade additional picks at all.

 

[Banger]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

Could be one of the teams sniffing around Cam Akers. Would more easily enable them to move on from Gordon.

that wouldn't surprise me at all. change of scenery, cheap rental...throw him in the mix and see what happens.

 

[Banger]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

Could be one of the teams sniffing around Cam Akers. Would more easily enable them to move on from Gordon.

Only if Akers is released. I don’t see them giving up picks for him.

They could probably get him for a conditional 6th or 7th at most given the way the Rams have telegraphed their plans to offload Akers.

ETA: all that said, they did trade a lot of draft capital for Wilson, so they may indeed be reticent to trade additional picks at all.

I would be shocked if anyone the Rams get anything more than a conditional pick for Akers. They've basically said they're moving on from him so he's basically off the team, he's coming off an achiles and has not looked good at all. He's running for 3.0 ypc...3.0! They are delusional if they think they're getting anything of value for him.

 

[JohnnyU]

Not that Murray is a difference maker for fantasy teams, but LOL at Gordon. Three carries?

 

[JohnnyU]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

Not that I think Murray is anything special, but Boone? Hardly.

 

[humpback]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

Could be one of the teams sniffing around Cam Akers. Would more easily enable them to move on from Gordon.

Only if Akers is released. I don’t see them giving up picks for him.

They could probably get him for a conditional 6th or 7th at most given the way the Rams have telegraphed their plans to offload Akers.

ETA: all that said, they did trade a lot of draft capital for Wilson, so they may indeed be reticent to trade additional picks at all.

I would be shocked if anyone the Rams get anything more than a conditional pick for Akers. They've basically said they're moving on from him so he's basically off the team, he's coming off an achiles and has not looked good at all. He's running for 3.0 ypc...3.0! They are delusional if they think they're getting anything of value for him.

Why not Gordon for Akers straight up?

 

[Mongidig]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

Could be one of the teams sniffing around Cam Akers. Would more easily enable them to move on from Gordon.

Only if Akers is released. I don’t see them giving up picks for him.

They could probably get him for a conditional 6th or 7th at most given the way the Rams have telegraphed their plans to offload Akers.

ETA: all that said, they did trade a lot of draft capital for Wilson, so they may indeed be reticent to trade additional picks at all.

I would be shocked if anyone the Rams get anything more than a conditional pick for Akers. They've basically said they're moving on from him so he's basically off the team, he's coming off an achiles and has not looked good at all. He's running for 3.0 ypc...3.0! They are delusional if they think they're getting anything of value for him.

Why not Gordon for Akers straight up?

That would be good for Gordons fantasy stock. I don’t think the the Broncos should be making any trades at this time given how horrible the last one is looking.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Javonte can't be a bell cow, but Murray can. Jesus.

One of the worst coaches in NFL history - but don't worry, he'll be gone soon.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

To be fair, he performed pretty well for Baltimore last season - but yeah, he's not very dynamic.

 

[Faust]

Broncos RB Melvin Gordon on benching in loss vs. Chargers: 'I'm not gonna lie. It hurt a little'

 

[Faust]

Broncos coach Nathaniel Hackett said "moving forward" they'll need all three running backs.​

Asked a question about Melvin Gordon not playing much in the second half, Hackett completely Alt+F4'ed, saying that the Broncos didn't have many plays in the second half, that Latavius Murray played well, and generally completely avoiding the question of Gordon's playing time. He followed up by saying: "We're going to have a conversation. We want to be crystal clear on everything so he knows where we stand. ... Melvin didn't do anything wrong. We just didn't have a lot of plays. We'll have a conversation." Maybe it's time to get him a press conference headset and someone to speak into it. Gordon's roster spot seems tenuous at best right now, never mind his fantasy prospects for next week against the Jets.
SOURCE: James Palmer on Twitter
Oct 18, 2022, 5:26 PM ET

 

[Faust]

JJ Zachariason @LateRoundQB

Melvin Gordon was good enough to steal touches from Javonte Williams but not good enough to play ahead of Latavius Murray?

https://twitter.com/lateroundqb/status/1582203696149983232?s=21

 

[JohnnyU]

Yeah, WTF was that? He didn’t fumble, had a few carries to start the game and that was it?

Hard to say but it seemed like even before Javonte's injury, Gordon wasn't exactly in favor. Maybe it was the fumbles or something beyond that, but seemed like they went with Gordon last week because he and Boone were the guys left on a short week. Clearly they like Murray more, as Boone had only one carry himself.

Javonte can't be a bell cow, but Murray can. Jesus.

The only thing I can think of is that Gordon fell out of favor after the fumbles. Otherwise, the Bronco brass flip flops from one day to the next.

 

[zeeshan2]

[PFT] Nathaniel Hackett was asked about Melvin Gordon saying he was benched without being told why. "We're going to have a conversation. Melvin didn't do anything wrong. He didn't. We just didn't have a lot of plays."

 

[Schmeabs]

dropping

 

[JohnnyU]

[PFT] Nathaniel Hackett was asked about Melvin Gordon saying he was benched without being told why. "We're going to have a conversation. Melvin didn't do anything wrong. He didn't. We just didn't have a lot of plays."

What a bunch of BS

 

[Smack Tripper]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

You may be right, and another X back is probably the answer. All the love to Latavius and he does at least prove us wrong but at 32, I don't think he's in any way equipped for a lead back role. 10-12 short yardage carries.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

I'd like to commend both of you and this is a prime example of what makes these boards fun/special. @Smack Tripper is pretty sold or wants to believe Boone is the guy and MoP wants to believe that as well, easier to digest than Latavius Murray hopping out of his car in the parking lot and getting more of a lather than even Javonte Williams, that's the part that has me baffled. I would have rather Williams have been getting the lion's share for the last 21-22 games or whatever so we would know if he was as strong as we thought, instead he is blown apart in a part time role and then when he becomes unavailable, Mel Gordon is practically walked to Murray's now parked car in the fire lane.

But I believe what @Banger posted to be true based on Murray's volume which is crazy since he wasn't on the team a week or two ago. Wish Drake had been available to sign when Williams went down, wish Denver would make a move for Hunt in Cleveland

Unfortunately by the time Williams is back and at full strength, this team will look much different including a potential change at the HC spot

 

[humpback]

Re the "he split with Javonte but not Murray" talk, Gordon was effectively already benched in week 4- Javonte had the first 7 RB touches of the game, then Gordon fumbled on his first carry which was returned for a TD. Javonte had the next 4 carries and was poised to finally dominate the backfield until the injury, and then it was Boone who came in the game for him. They only used Gordon the next week because the only other option was Boone, which is a pretty clear sign that they don't want him to be the "guy" either.

Obviously things can change, but right now it seems Denver really doesn't trust Gordon and wants to keep Boone as a 3rd down/spell back. As long as Murray is serviceable and protects the football, he'll likely be the early down RB, but there doesn't seem to be much FF value anywhere here IMO.

 

[MrJimiT]

I finally lost faith in using MG again. Certainly Bronco situations may change (like an injury) that catapults MG back into the starting foray, but it seems to me like the coaching is making him last/final priority. I have conditionally let MG go in the hopes of picking up PHI Defense that was dropped in the next waiver wire run.

 

[Banger]

As I said a week or so ago, Cecil said that the team was done with Gordon after the fumbles, they benched him and he suspected they may waive him. Then Javonte got injured and it bought Gordon some more time. He didn't do anything positive and now it's Murray's backfield...not that it's even something you really want considering how pathetic their offense is.

Still think Boone ends up the guy based on this trajectory , Latavius is one of my favorite backs of the last decade but he's a dead cat bounce and totally washed

I think if that were the case Boone would have gotten more than 1 carry for 1 yard...Murray on the other hand has been with the team for a week and got 15 carries and ran at 4.4 ypc, ran hard and looked good IMO. I think there's a better chance that they trade for someone than Boone being the guy.

I'd like to commend both of you and this is a prime example of what makes these boards fun/special. @Smack Tripper is pretty sold or wants to believe Boone is the guy and MoP wants to believe that as well, easier to digest than Latavius Murray hopping out of his car in the parking lot and getting more of a lather than even Javonte Williams, that's the part that has me baffled. I would have rather Williams have been getting the lion's share for the last 21-22 games or whatever so we would know if he was as strong as we thought, instead he is blown apart in a part time role and then when he becomes unavailable, Mel Gordon is practically walked to Murray's now parked car in the fire lane.

But I believe what @Banger posted to be true based on Murray's volume which is crazy since he wasn't on the team a week or two ago. Wish Drake had been available to sign when Williams went down, wish Denver would make a move for Hunt in Cleveland

Unfortunately by the time Williams is back and at full strength, this team will look much different including a potential change at the HC spot

Williams use was baffling to me. I could understand it to a certain extent last year but this year they continued the nearly 50-50 split. Then Williams goes down and you'd assume it's Gordon time or maybe Boone time but no it's Murray time???? That's what makes this game interesting even with all the information available and tons of fantasy "experts" because at the end of the day no one really knows anything. It's reading the tea leaves, making your "educated" guesses and crossing your fingers it works out....

In this instance the way the offense looks I don't think it really matters much. I did snag Murray as a 5th RB in the event Wilson and the offense can somehow start to move the ball and look like an NFL offense but my confidence level is about 1.5 out of 10 that it happens. Denver does have a good defense so if they can maybe evolve to be a Giants/Cowboys (without Dak) type of offense where they run, play conservative and have the defense keep it close he may offer some value. More likely is Murray scores under 10 pts the next week or two and I rinse / repeat with the next flavor of the week.

 

[matttyl]

Heard on Sirius that Hackett has come out and said Gordon will start the next game? What’s going on?

 

[Banger]

Heard on Sirius that Hackett has come out and said Gordon will start the next game? What’s going on?

Hackett is Hacketting. The dude is lost and drowning. It’s just a matter of time before he’s fired.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I think Olandis Gary is the sneaky play here

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Heard on Sirius that Hackett has come out and said Gordon will start the next game? What’s going on?

Hackett is Hacketting. The dude is lost and drowning. It’s just a matter of time before he’s fired.

When he couldn’t handle clock management they hired some one to do that job. So now a story breaks about how upset a player looks on the sideline when he’s benched and he reacts by handing that guy his job back, or even just paying lip service to it. Will they hire a player management coach to help Hackett also.

 

[DeaLerZ]

Heard on Sirius that Hackett has come out and said Gordon will start the next game? What’s going on?

Hackett is Hacketting. The dude is lost and drowning. It’s just a matter of time before he’s fired.

When he couldn’t handle clock management they hired some one to do that job. So now a story breaks about how upset a player looks on the sideline when he’s benched and he reacts by handing that guy his job back, or even just paying lip service to it. Will they hire a player management coach to help Hackett also.

literally only got the job because of Aaron Rodgers.... should have been fired after clock management issue lol

 

[Rubi]

Heard on Sirius that Hackett has come out and said Gordon will start the next game? What’s going on?

But will he finish the game? Not because of his injuries and performance,because Hackett looks like a deer with semi headlights coming at him during a game.

 

[Mile High]

Heard on Sirius that Hackett has come out and said Gordon will start the next game? What’s going on?

Trying to up his trade value?

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Hackett is a fool trying to make such a good guy like Gordon the scapegoat. Yes, the fumbles at the beginning of the season were a problem, but he's the best RB on your roster. I have no stake here other than the Broncos have been on too many damn primetime games forcing me to watch them. And if you're going to tell me Murray ran tough and could get the tough yards, why were you in shotgun in OT on 3rd and 1? Idiot.

 

[Ardbeg4ever]

Isn't this just a ploy to motivate Tatum Bell?