RB Quinshon Judkins, CLE (4 Viewers)

[Ilov80s]

p.s. I love the little parentheticals letting us know who Kamara and Gibbs are.

Kind of makes it hard to take the rest of the blurb seriously

 

[Ilov80s]

Judkins is such a simple eval.

Physically, he's lab grown. True freshman year in the SEC he was one of the best backs in college football. 36th overall pick. 21 years old.
Team doesn't have a QB or a real offensive identity.

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

 

[warpig33]

I posted in the Treveyon thread that I took Treveyon at 1.07 but had missed the fact that Judkins was also still available. To my astonishment Judkins WAS STILL available at 1.13! I made a move and traded for the 1.13 and took Judkins. RB was a weakness for my team and was surprised I was able to pull off a trade to get him. But not as surprised as I was that Judkins was still available at 1.13 in a 16 tm league. I started doing a deep dive into Judkins and really liked what I was reading. Seems like a good kid.

 

[zed2283]

Matt Wilson
This cut by Quinshon Judkins just made me LOL.

Look how smooth he is flipping his hips and changing direction.
#Browns #DawgPound #NFL

https://x.com/coachwilson66/status/1930299133052518894?s=61

I see a ton of these clips during camp every year. It's like none of these guys have ever played sports before.

 

[Ilov80s]

I posted in the Treveyon thread that I took Treveyon at 1.07 but had missed the fact that Judkins was also still available. To my astonishment Judkins WAS STILL available at 1.13! I made a move and traded for the 1.13 and took Judkins. RB was a weakness for my team and was surprised I was able to pull off a trade to get him. But not as surprised as I was that Judkins was still available at 1.13 in a 16 tm league. I started doing a deep dive into Judkins and really liked what I was reading. Seems like a good kid.

That is a sick value. I assume this is 2 QB and TE premium? I assume Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Harvey, Kaleb, Tet, Hunter, Emeka, Golden, Loveland, and Warren went before Judkins. Who is the 12th guy? Burden? Dart? Shough?

 

[warpig33]

I posted in the Treveyon thread that I took Treveyon at 1.07 but had missed the fact that Judkins was also still available. To my astonishment Judkins WAS STILL available at 1.13! I made a move and traded for the 1.13 and took Judkins. RB was a weakness for my team and was surprised I was able to pull off a trade to get him. But not as surprised as I was that Judkins was still available at 1.13 in a 16 tm league. I started doing a deep dive into Judkins and really liked what I was reading. Seems like a good kid.

That is a sick value. I assume this is 2 QB and TE premium? I assume Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Harvey, Kaleb, Tet, Hunter, Emeka, Golden, Loveland, and Warren went before Judkins. Who is the 12th guy? Burden? Dart? Shough?

No sir. Just a basic league. 1QB, non TEP. So far, the draft has gone as follows:

1.1 Jeanty
1.2 Hunter
1.3 Hampton
1.4 Tet
1.5 Harvey
1.6 Warren
1.7 Henderson (me. Thought for sure Judkins was gone. Obviously I was wrong)
1.8 Golden
1.9 Emeka
1.10 Loveland
1.11 Abdul Carter
1.12 Scweshinger
1.13 Judkins (me. Traded up to nab Judkins)
1.14 Kaleb Johnson
1.15 Ward
1.16 Burden
2.1 Mason Taylor
2.2 Higgins

 

[Ilov80s]

I posted in the Treveyon thread that I took Treveyon at 1.07 but had missed the fact that Judkins was also still available. To my astonishment Judkins WAS STILL available at 1.13! I made a move and traded for the 1.13 and took Judkins. RB was a weakness for my team and was surprised I was able to pull off a trade to get him. But not as surprised as I was that Judkins was still available at 1.13 in a 16 tm league. I started doing a deep dive into Judkins and really liked what I was reading. Seems like a good kid.

That is a sick value. I assume this is 2 QB and TE premium? I assume Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Harvey, Kaleb, Tet, Hunter, Emeka, Golden, Loveland, and Warren went before Judkins. Who is the 12th guy? Burden? Dart? Shough?

No sir. Just a basic league. 1QB, non TEP. So far, the draft has gone as follows:

1.1 Jeanty
1.2 Hunter
1.3 Hampton
1.4 Tet
1.5 Harvey
1.6 Warren
1.7 Henderson (me. Thought for sure Judkins was gone. Obviously I was wrong)
1.8 Golden
1.9 Emeka
1.10 Loveland
1.11 Abdul Carter
1.12 Scweshinger
1.13 Judkins (me. Traded up to nab Judkins)
1.14 Kaleb Johnson
1.15 Ward
1.16 Burden
2.1 Mason Taylor
2.2 Higgins

Ahhh so it is IDP though which snuck 2 more guys in there. That is such good vaue for Judkins and Kaleb Johnson. Even Henderson at 7 was a great value. You had a very good draft. Judkins fell to 8 in my league and I moved up to get him. I thought that was good value!

 

[warpig33]

I posted in the Treveyon thread that I took Treveyon at 1.07 but had missed the fact that Judkins was also still available. To my astonishment Judkins WAS STILL available at 1.13! I made a move and traded for the 1.13 and took Judkins. RB was a weakness for my team and was surprised I was able to pull off a trade to get him. But not as surprised as I was that Judkins was still available at 1.13 in a 16 tm league. I started doing a deep dive into Judkins and really liked what I was reading. Seems like a good kid.

That is a sick value. I assume this is 2 QB and TE premium? I assume Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Harvey, Kaleb, Tet, Hunter, Emeka, Golden, Loveland, and Warren went before Judkins. Who is the 12th guy? Burden? Dart? Shough?

No sir. Just a basic league. 1QB, non TEP. So far, the draft has gone as follows:

1.1 Jeanty
1.2 Hunter
1.3 Hampton
1.4 Tet
1.5 Harvey
1.6 Warren
1.7 Henderson (me. Thought for sure Judkins was gone. Obviously I was wrong)
1.8 Golden
1.9 Emeka
1.10 Loveland
1.11 Abdul Carter
1.12 Scweshinger
1.13 Judkins (me. Traded up to nab Judkins)
1.14 Kaleb Johnson
1.15 Ward
1.16 Burden
2.1 Mason Taylor
2.2 Higgins

Ahhh so it is IDP though which snuck 2 more guys in there. That is such good vaue for Judkins and Kaleb Johnson. Even Henderson at 7 was a great value. You had a very good draft. Judkins fell to 8 in my league and I moved up to get him. I thought that was good value!

Yeah, IDP. I got lucky that those two IDPs went. THe owner I traded with had the 1.13 and 1.14 and he was looking to trade out of one of them. NONE of the other drafts I've seen so far (and I've seen a lot) had Judkins fall that far! ANd like you said, even Henderson at 1.7 was good value.

 

[Aznflyer14]

I posted in the Treveyon thread that I took Treveyon at 1.07 but had missed the fact that Judkins was also still available. To my astonishment Judkins WAS STILL available at 1.13! I made a move and traded for the 1.13 and took Judkins. RB was a weakness for my team and was surprised I was able to pull off a trade to get him. But not as surprised as I was that Judkins was still available at 1.13 in a 16 tm league. I started doing a deep dive into Judkins and really liked what I was reading. Seems like a good kid.

Excellent trade! I, too, was shocked to see Judkins available upon my turn at 1.07.

 

[zamboni]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Agree that the fantasy community may be overvaluing Judkins for this year unless he absolutely shines in training camp. The Browns clearly didn't want to hand the reins over to Jerome Ford, but the guy is no slouch and may still play a prominent role this year.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

 

[LawFitz]

I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson

Dude is a not-so-poor man's Treveyon Henderson IMO. Guessing the Browns liked what they saw from OSU last year and will be looking to do something similar.

 

[Dez]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

 

[warpig33]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

Ford aint no slouch. Could be a tip of the hat from the coaching staff to the vet. Hell, who knows? What if Ford balls out and they sign him to an extension? Then we have an ugly RBBC.

 

[Ilov80s]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

Ford aint no slouch. Could be a tip of the hat from the coaching staff to the vet. Hell, who knows? What if Ford balls out and they sign him to an extension? Then we have an ugly RBBC.

Yep but that could be said for almost any rookie RB situatuon. What if Najee balls out? What of Rhamondre balls out? What if Jaylen Warren balls out?

 

[TripItUp]

Love the Ford hype! I hope it makes Judkins slide in drafts!

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Love the Ford hype! I hope it makes Judkins slide in drafts!

Where do you have Judkins ranked in 2025 Rookie drafts (PPR)?

 

[JohnnyU]

Love the Ford hype! I hope it makes Judkins slide in drafts!

Where do you have Judkins ranked in 2025 Rookie drafts (PPR)?

I think Judkins is hard to rank, because I worry about his not being involved in the passing game. Early in the draft season I had him over Kaleb Johnson, but I'm not so sure about that now. For me, I would rank the rookie RBs top 5 as Jeanty, Hampton/Henderson tied, Kaleb Johnson, then Judkins.

 

[TripItUp]

Love the Ford hype! I hope it makes Judkins slide in drafts!

Where do you have Judkins ranked in 2025 Rookie drafts (PPR)?

#4 for dynasty and redraft.

 

[Dez]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

Ford aint no slouch. Could be a tip of the hat from the coaching staff to the vet. Hell, who knows? What if Ford balls out and they sign him to an extension? Then we have an ugly RBBC.

Yes the Browns drafted a RB at #36 overall to get him into an ugly RBBC was my guess as well.

 

[Ilov80s]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

Ford aint no slouch. Could be a tip of the hat from the coaching staff to the vet. Hell, who knows? What if Ford balls out and they sign him to an extension? Then we have an ugly RBBC.

Yes the Browns drafted a RB at #36 overall to get him into an ugly RBBC was my guess as well.

Certainly not their intention but it wouldn't be the first time a team's draft plan didn't work out. Judkins could be slow picking up pass pro, get dinged up in August or just be a little slow going. He hasn't signed his contract yet so perhaps coaching/front office staff are displeased by this. Just any kind of opening could give Ford a chance to lock in a significant role.

 

[Ilov80s]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

It makes sense Cleveland would name Ford the starter right now. Judkins isn't even signed yet.

 

[menobrown]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

It makes sense Cleveland would name Ford the starter right now. Judkins isn't even signed yet.

I don't think him not being signed yet means any little thing at all. Like every single draft pick except Shermar Stewart he signed a waiver and fully participated in every single OTA and mini-camp. Missed nothing.

 

[menobrown]

He hasn't signed his contract yet so perhaps coaching/front office staff are displeased by this

They also would not be upset at this as 30 of 32 second round picks are unsigned.

 

[Ilov80s]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

It makes sense Cleveland would name Ford the starter right now. Judkins isn't even signed yet.

I don't think him not being signed yet means any little thing at all. Like every single draft pick except Shermar Stewart he signed a waiver and fully participated in every single OTA and mini-camp. Missed nothing.

Correct. For now. But it seems like the argument is about fully guaranteed or not. Jayden Higgins got fully guaranteed. I think Quinshin is waiting for the guys ahead of him to see what they get. But we could reach a point where it;s Judkins turn to sign and there is a disagreement between Judkins and Cleveland on the guarantees that starts to impact things. Again, I am not saying it is a problem. I just gave reasons why it's logical that the Browns would currently say Ford is the starter and a reason why Ford might get enough room this summer to solidify a significant role for himself.

 

[menobrown]

In redraft, he's likely to be a bit overrated. In dynasty, he's a bluechipper.

Beyond 2025, the longer term outlook looks much better for Judkins, but I'm wondering if we're overlooking Dylan Sampson, who was drafted in the 4th himself and could be the receiving complement.

Maybe your over looking Ford who signed that massive 1 year $1.75 million contract.

The Athletic’s Zac Jackson believes that Jerome Ford is “the starter for now” and will “still play and probably start early in the season.”

It makes sense Cleveland would name Ford the starter right now. Judkins isn't even signed yet.

I don't think him not being signed yet means any little thing at all. Like every single draft pick except Shermar Stewart he signed a waiver and fully participated in every single OTA and mini-camp. Missed nothing.

Correct. For now. But it seems like the argument is about fully guaranteed or not. Jayden Higgins got fully guaranteed. I think Quinshin is waiting for the guys ahead of him to see what they get. But we could reach a point where it;s Judkins turn to sign and there is a disagreement between Judkins and Cleveland on the guarantees that starts to impact things. Again, I am not saying it is a problem. I just gave reasons why it's logical that the Browns would currently say Ford is the starter and a reason why Ford might get enough room this summer to solidify a significant role for himself.

Thanks but I think you are reaching for something when there is nothing there.

 

[travdogg]

Judkins went 1.5 in my rookie draft today, over McMillan to boot, so he's not falling yet.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Judkins arrested for domestic violence

https://x.com/DavisMattek/status/1944186282306838977

 

[Dez]

Hope that is not true

 

[King of the Jungle]

Yahoo now reporting…no good…

 

[dipandglide]

We gotta wait for the full story. Something similar happened to Worthy that ended up being violence against him. I'm not saying that's the case with Quinshon, but we should wait for more information.

 

[menobrown]

Used three first round picks on him in leagues so this is about as bad news as I could get.

One of those teams endured painful almost two years absences over conduct with both AB and Watson on smaller rosters and it scarred me so much I prioritized character a little more. Judkins from everything I've heard and read struck me as that kind of guy but that's not easy to guess.

Disclaimer to all of this is what dipandglide said above, we got to wait for details, but just the same it's ok to start worrying away.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

DV is always bad in the NFL.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just saw an update: has not bailed out yet. Ft Lauderdale.

Nothing good happens in Ft. Lauderdale, FL.

 

[Bri]

Radio by me pointing out he hasn't signed his contract so it's unclear if he's an NFL employee or NFLPA member IF IF IF someone wants to push the envelope.

Other host- so has he got his big check yet?

They're just chatting but...I thought it was a bit interesting

 

[menobrown]

Radio by me pointing out he hasn't signed his contract so it's unclear if he's an NFL employee or NFLPA member IF IF IF someone wants to push the envelope.

If you are bringing this up to question if he's free from a suspension since he's not technically signed his contract yet the answer is no, that loophole does not exist.

 

[Chaka]

Man, this organization cannot make a decision that works out.

If this is true there had to be red flags.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Radio by me pointing out he hasn't signed his contract so it's unclear if he's an NFL employee or NFLPA member IF IF IF someone wants to push the envelope.

If you are bringing this up to question if he's free from a suspension since he's not technically signed his contract yet the answer is no, that loophole does not exist.

I see it more as he’s more likely to face legal consequences without the capable NFL attorneys on hand to carry him through this process.

 

[JohnnyU]

Drafted in 2023 DEVY 1.06. Only one share. Oh well, easy come, easy go.

 

[Ben & Jerry's]

How far do we bump Dylan Sampson?

 

[JohnnyU]

How far do we bump Dylan Sampson?

It’s Cleveland Everything turns to

 

[Dez]

I remember Tyreek going round 17 because he was going to get a year suspension a while back. Never got suspended a single game.

Need to let the process play out.

Makes it tough though if your doing drafts right now.

 

[Terpman22]

How far do we bump Dylan Sampson?

Bro funny I almost started a thread like “I’m not rooting for injury, however if any of ‘these’ guys go down, TO THE MOON, for the backup.

Took a buncha Dylan Sampson shares 2.8-3.2 range this year

I’m not here celebrating fyi, I HATE seeing these stories

First major story along these lines aka a presumed RB1 losing value bc…

 

[menobrown]

How far do we bump Dylan Sampson?

Not much for me because I don't think he's the backup this upcoming year and unless some bad video or some really awful details emerge this is unlikely to have any impact on Judkins this year.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I remember Tyreek going round 17 because he was going to get a year suspension a while back. Never got suspended a single game.

Need to let the process play out.

Makes it tough though if your doing drafts right now.

Yeah, was gonna post this. I wouldn’t move anyone in any rankings until something concrete is known.

 

[TripItUp]

Twitter says it's likely a misdemeanor. These cases have a wide range of outcomes from both the courts and the NFL...can really depend on details we don't know yet.

We should know a lot more in the coming days.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Twitter says it's likely a misdemeanor. These cases have a wide range of outcomes from both the courts and the NFL...can really depend on details we don't know yet.

We should know a lot more in the coming days.

Historically speaking…

Video = bad
No video = not “good”, but good for FF purposes. So… less bad, for those who invested.

(DV is never good, so it’s only degrees of bad here. DV is always, always bad)

 

[Deamon]

Can Sanders play RB?

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Similar situation happened with the Browns last year...

Browns DT Hall issued 5-game suspension by NFL

Browns rookie defensive tackle Mike Hall Jr. has been suspended five games without pay for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy, the league announced Tuesday.

www.espn.com

and they replaced him with Mason Graham this year essentially..


Anyways, back to Judkins: From reddit

The charges are “Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other”, not the subsection of causing bodily harm which is “any pain, no matter how slight”, indicating this is about as light of physical contact alleged as possible, probably an allegation of pushing or grabbing wrists (from my experience as a defense attorney).
Just to put a little water on the fire before people call for his head, Florida is a mandatory arrest state in terms of DV. It could have been a misunderstanding or he could’ve been the victim but when police are called to a DV call, someone leaves in handcuffs.

 

[Proteus]

Drafted in 2023 DEVY 1.06. Only one share. Oh well, easy come, easy go.

Basically the same situation.

And now I'm experiencing the same sick feeling I had when Derrius Guice threw away his career.

Someone please tell me this isn't that.

 

[JohnnyU]

Drafted in 2023 DEVY 1.06. Only one share. Oh well, easy come, easy go.

Basically the same situation.

And now I'm experiencing the same sick feeling I had when Derrius Guice threw away his career.

Someone please tell me this isn't that.

Ok, this isn’t that.