JohnnyU
Footballguy
Unless you're hurting at QB I would take Henderson over Ward. I doubt Jeanty and Hampton will be there, but in SF you never know.
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RB TreVeyon Henderson, NE (5 Viewers)
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Gatorade
Footballguy
QBs are Aaron Rodgers and Geno Smith, so yea, I need help there in 16 team dynasty.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
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16 team SuperFlex? Ward over anyone but Jeanty for me. Maaaaybe Hampton because you could probably trade Hampton for a better QB.
Gatorade
Footballguy
Draft went
1 Jeanty
2 Hampton
3 Hunter
4 Ward
My pick over Henderson
I was surprised Ward did not go at 3 since that owner only had one starting QB
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Did McDaniels OC any stud RB seasons? It feels like a lot of committee, was Corey Dillion's big year in New England under him?
efactor
Footballguy
Henderson is a more explosive type RB than he has had previously, so there's that to figure in. Not really worried about past history personally.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Since you asked, McDaniels did not have any huge rookie RB seasons especially when there was an incumbant RB on the roster. Maroney and Stevenson had half time roles. Michel was a first round pick but they didn't really have anyone else.
Most of the time, rookies haven't played much under McDaniels at RB or WR. White and Vereen had a cup of coffee as rookies. I also will point out that he usually has rookies play a ton in camp but not in the regular season. They don't know the playbook, they need the reps, and they won't get many practice reps in the regular season. Over the years, there have been other rookies that got good ink in the preseason and didn't do much in real games. This is a 20 year pattern.
Maybe Henderson and Williams can break that trend. I'm not suggesting they can't. But Stevenson is still there and he's the 6th highest paid RB in the league. You don't pay guys top of the market money to watch. And McDaniels drafter him. So he's not a pick of a different regime.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I hear what you're saying but when you have a 20 year trend to spread it around, its worth considering
Is that team at 3 close to competitive? They may be thinking build for another year and target QB next season. Although with the reports confirming that Hunter is lining up on both sides I'd go Tet over Hunter except in IDP IMHO.
Gatorade
Footballguy
He is built to win now with Barkley and Henry at RB. His only two QBs are Love and Cousins. It is IDP, so he can start Hunter at CB.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Hopefully Hunter won’t have to cover Ayomanor
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Look what Detroit did before they drafted Gibbs, they signed Monty to real money.
2-back attacks are becoming more the norm in the NFL with each RB having a set of skills they bring
Very few 3-down RBs in the NFL plus teams don't want to abuse and overload their starting RB, they need them to last all season
starks
Footballguy
Yea I guess it’s better RS will be in his timeshare over another RB they might pull out of next years draft had they let him walk.
It's not an overly expensive contract to cut but he is due $3.25M guaranteed in salary for 2026 so I'd expect they would keep him next year even if just as a backup. But I don't see any way they would keep him past that without a paycut as his salary and roster bonuses jump up and there would be zero hit to cut him.
Ahh, grabbing Hunter makes sense then. I would have considered him over Hampton in that format and I love Hampton.
Proteus
Footballguy
Over a year ago, I could have had TreVeyon Henderson in a devy league but passed and took Judkins.
Since my backside and foot are both sore from kicking myself, I have found a new way to indulge in angry sour grapes games over it.
Trayveon(slightly different spelling) WILLIAMS was signed by the Browns, no doubt as a band aid for their rookie RB ruining his season and tarnishing his career.
No, I am not suggesting picking up Williams. But I do think you can nominate him for $1 in a salary cap and have leaguemates pouncing up to at least $5 before they realize what they've done. I mean on top of the name similarity, the hairstyles and faces might be all you need for trigger fingered fools to leap.
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Since my backside and foot are both sore from kicking myself, I have found a new way to indulge in angry sour grapes games over it.
Trayveon(slightly different spelling) WILLIAMS was signed by the Browns, no doubt as a band aid for their rookie RB ruining his season and tarnishing his career.
No, I am not suggesting picking up Williams. But I do think you can nominate him for $1 in a salary cap and have leaguemates pouncing up to at least $5 before they realize what they've done. I mean on top of the name similarity, the hairstyles and faces might be all you need for trigger fingered fools to leap.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
ZOOM! 18 yd run breaks the corner and scoots up the sideline
"R U Kidding Me?" were the words of the broadcaster, his stock shot up a couple bucks tonight, he looks faster than I anticipated
Look around, there's video of the run
"R U Kidding Me?" were the words of the broadcaster, his stock shot up a couple bucks tonight, he looks faster than I anticipated
Look around, there's video of the run
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
the problem is Rhamondre is actually a pretty good RB.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
And then there's the 100-yd kickoff return on his 1st touch, this guy shot up the charts tonight, huge movement I would say.
He'll share some time but the more chunk plays and big plays he makes the more they're going to keep him involved. he keeps defenses honest, opens up pass lanes for young Maye
These are the good times of the season as you watch talent rise. Gotta be on your radar now
RB22 Projecttion, that could change
ADP 60 overall, Early 6th is not happening, he'll be gone in the late 3rd/early 4th if a team avoided RB early, lot of upside here
He'll share some time but the more chunk plays and big plays he makes the more they're going to keep him involved. he keeps defenses honest, opens up pass lanes for young Maye
These are the good times of the season as you watch talent rise. Gotta be on your radar now
RB22 Projecttion, that could change
ADP 60 overall, Early 6th is not happening, he'll be gone in the late 3rd/early 4th if a team avoided RB early, lot of upside here
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Do I take him at 1.03 and skip Hunter?
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Love these...
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Everyone who just missed out on Henderson and had to settle for Judkins right now are feeling pretty down right now (me for example). Henderson has got juice.
He's going to shoot up draft boards now unfortunately with that return and one 18 yard run. I'd be hesitant though for redraft, Rhamondre looked good and got the majority of RB touches, even Gibson was ripping it up. Very encouraging though that Henderson got 3 catches on the first 2 drives. Seems to fit the usage a lot of people in this thread were predicting.
I think he is a value at his ADP also. I can see a lot of tds and early down usage for him.
MrSoup
Footballguy
I know this is a satirical post, but in reality, it was probably always Henderson over Jeanty. Look at the level of competition they faced in college. TreVeyon also had to split time with Judkins. He never got a workhorse load as there wasn’t a need for it. Anybody with two eyeballs can see he’s always been the more explosive runner.
And it’s not that I would actually draft Henderson over Jeanty in fantasy. I just wouIdn’t ever draft Jeanty at his price when I could wait quite a few rounds and pick up the better RB.
zamboni
Footballguy
That’s not what we typically want in fantasy, but coaches want to put the ball in the hands of their playmakers whenever possible.
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And things are different with the new kickoff rules.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
So that's how you gauge Henderson's value in 2025? Or did you mean to quote a previous post that was talking about the kicking game as it relates to fantasy. If the former, that's the last thing I think of with Henderson in 2025. He's going to be a ppr machine, to go along with decent rushing numbers because of his vision and burst.
Say goodbye to his 6th/7th round ADP. The hype train is now going to really roll.
And probably for good reason. Rhamandre is going to get plenty, but it's clear with Henderson's usage in the first quarter that he will get double digit rushing touches and a handful of catches per game. And clearly, he can take it to the house at any time.
Flex worthy floor at minimum with the upside to have a J. Gibbs like season. And I'd say there's a non-zero chance he becomes the 1A at somepoint to Rhamandre being 1B.
And probably for good reason. Rhamandre is going to get plenty, but it's clear with Henderson's usage in the first quarter that he will get double digit rushing touches and a handful of catches per game. And clearly, he can take it to the house at any time.
Flex worthy floor at minimum with the upside to have a J. Gibbs like season. And I'd say there's a non-zero chance he becomes the 1A at somepoint to Rhamandre being 1B.
jm192
Footballguy
He’s going to be absurdly good this year. The explosiveness pops. So much talk about his pass catching ability out of camp.
I heard on a podcast Rhamondre has fumbled a few balls in camp. His fumblitis is to give even more touches to Henderson.
And the reality is, Henderson won’t need THAT many touches.
Patriots feel like they’re going yo be the breakout offense. And Henderson is going to be Kamara/Gibbs esque.
If you’re in the shark pool leagues: he’s overrated. Pre-season doesn’t mean anything. Rhamondre looked really good last night too. Vrabel won’t trust a rookie and prefers to give the ball to veterans.
I heard on a podcast Rhamondre has fumbled a few balls in camp. His fumblitis is to give even more touches to Henderson.
And the reality is, Henderson won’t need THAT many touches.
Patriots feel like they’re going yo be the breakout offense. And Henderson is going to be Kamara/Gibbs esque.
If you’re in the shark pool leagues: he’s overrated. Pre-season doesn’t mean anything. Rhamondre looked really good last night too. Vrabel won’t trust a rookie and prefers to give the ball to veterans.
jm192
Footballguy
Yean. His first NFL touch (and the first play of his first NFL game) was a 100 yard touchdown. He had 1 rush attempt, which was an impressive/explosive 18 yard run. He had 3 catches in what, a quarter of play?
I have no football coaching experience. But I sure think any competent head coach saw what I saw and wants to get that guy the football.
McDaniel's has a history of using these types of guys (J. White, S. Vereen, D. Woodhead, etc) and Henderson is by far the most talented. He'd be an idiot not to use him...a lot.
Not sure he's just a third down back either. On one play last night, he shook a defender and then put his shoulder down on the sideline and absolutely crushed the defender (to the point where I think he was concussed).
I still like Rhamandre quite a bit (outside his fumbling issues which really only emerged last year). Still think Vrabel is a run first guy. Gibson seems to just give Stevenson a rest now and then.
Hoping everyone isn't WILDLY optimistic on the Gibbs/Kamara comparisons.
jm192
Footballguy
It would be coaching malpractice to use him as a 3rd down back only.
As you said upstream, double digit rushes, maybe 10-12. Maybe it's only 8 some games. But I'd also expect he lands at like 50+ receptions. If he gets at least 200 touches, he should be fantastic.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Who gets more run this year: Henderson or JMason?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I think it will be close in total rushes, but Henderson should blow him away in the passing game. I'd rather have Henderson. IMO he has higher upside.
jm192
Footballguy
Agreed
Boston
Footballguy
I would rather have Henderson...by a lot.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
You guys can all have Henderson. It will drive down the price of Stevenson . . . who will get 50-60% of the RB touches and red zone looks. Henderson has an ADP of 60 and rising. Stevenson is at 105 and falling. You don't send a guy you think of as a bell cow, heavy usage, major RB piece out to return kickoffs in a preseason game. You just don't.
