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RB Tyrone Tracy Jr., NYG (3 Viewers)
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No they wouldn't. He had a good game.
EBF
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Every target and carry from this week:
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What stands out is that his bounce is absolutely elite. Very shifty.
Combine that with him being 210+ pounds and he's going to force a lot of missed or glancing tackles.
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What stands out is that his bounce is absolutely elite. Very shifty.
Combine that with him being 210+ pounds and he's going to force a lot of missed or glancing tackles.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Looks like a damn Fibonacci sequence
Insein
Footballguy
I do wonder how much of it is a product of a tired Seattle line getting caught off guard by a fresh rookie and how much is his real talent. I do think he has a chance to sustain it with Nabers keeping teams respect the pass. Hopefully Giants Coaches realize this formula is exactly how they won 3 years ago and get him at least 15 carries a game going forward.
Realistically I think Singletary will be still involved in probably a 50/50 attack with Nabers being the focal point. Which might not be well for Giants overall though.
Realistically I think Singletary will be still involved in probably a 50/50 attack with Nabers being the focal point. Which might not be well for Giants overall though.
Faust
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You can watch all 129 of Tyrone Tracy's Week 5 rushing yards here.
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- Contact Balance (not always perfect, but really impressive for an inexperienced RB. Expect it to only get better as he's more comfortable)
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wgoldsph
Footballguy
What stood out to me was how good he was at finding the hole or bouncing when the hole closed. As a guy who played wr for most of his college career I expected at least some running into his own blocker or hesitation behind the line...Every target and carry from this week:
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What stands out is that his bounce is absolutely elite. Very shifty.
Combine that with him being 210+ pounds and he's going to force a lot of missed or glancing tackles.
I'm biased because he was /my sleeper/ but that was honestly better than I expected for his first start.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Definitely has talent. Curious to see how he holds up under a multi-week workload.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Was not expecting the Seahawks to get rolled at home like that. Even if you were to tell me the entire Seattle defense (and at least Geno and DK) were out partying until 4 in the morning and took the game lightly, I'd still come and say look you have to give the Giants a ton of credit. And without Nabers.
So kudos and super stoked to see another one of my sleepers emerge and I would think that he has now stolen the starting job and Singletary becomes one of the better backups in the league. Also glad to see Jones and the Giants gain some confidence. Have a lot of Jones on best ball teams as well.
Tracy rostership:
In 115 UD Best Ball 1QB reg season leagues - 2nd highest at 27.8% (Brian Robinson 1st at 32.2%)
In 13 UD BB SuperFlex reg szn leagues - 2nd at 46.2% (Achane 53.8%)
In 31 UD BB leagues prior to NFL draft - 0 shares and not sure anyone has any (Gibson 1st 64.5%, Henry 48.4%, Brian Robinson 45.2%)
In 40 UD BB Weekly Winner contest - 2nd at 40.0% (Chase Brown 47.5%)
FFPC BB Tourney - 1 share / 2 leagues
FFPC SF BB Tourney - 5 / 7
FFPC FPC Toureny - 4 / 12 (Hunt 1st at 8/12)
Not gonna do all the rest of the math but I have a lot of him.
So kudos and super stoked to see another one of my sleepers emerge and I would think that he has now stolen the starting job and Singletary becomes one of the better backups in the league. Also glad to see Jones and the Giants gain some confidence. Have a lot of Jones on best ball teams as well.
Tracy rostership:
In 115 UD Best Ball 1QB reg season leagues - 2nd highest at 27.8% (Brian Robinson 1st at 32.2%)
In 13 UD BB SuperFlex reg szn leagues - 2nd at 46.2% (Achane 53.8%)
In 31 UD BB leagues prior to NFL draft - 0 shares and not sure anyone has any (Gibson 1st 64.5%, Henry 48.4%, Brian Robinson 45.2%)
In 40 UD BB Weekly Winner contest - 2nd at 40.0% (Chase Brown 47.5%)
FFPC BB Tourney - 1 share / 2 leagues
FFPC SF BB Tourney - 5 / 7
FFPC FPC Toureny - 4 / 12 (Hunt 1st at 8/12)
Not gonna do all the rest of the math but I have a lot of him.
I might have said this before but I actually requested he was added to the FFPC player pool back in February when I did my first FPC draft. And I was salty as hell about it because I went to draft him in like round 15 or 16 of a 6 hour slow draft when I noticed he was not available. And reason I was salty because I made 3 requests over a two day period to add him, even had to resort to doing something I despise which was use my entire 6 hour clock to stall so they could add him and I could draft him and I swear to god they emailed me about 2 hours after I made my 20th round pick and told me he'd been added, sorry for the delay they said.
But I'm ok now because I ended up using that 20th round pick on Mooney and added Tracy in FA and like you own him a lot.
Back to the player what surprised me about him was how consistent and powerful he ran. As one of those WR converts I expected a more finesse runner, a more boom/bust running style but he was absolutely nothing of the sort. This was a consistent and powerful runner and fact he's that with such little experience and then you think of what he can be for fantasy when his pass catching skill are utilized and it's truly sky is the limit stuff.
But the issue is Singletary is going to be a problem. Daboll just likes him to much and his contract is guaranteed through duration of 2025. Sure Tracy likely carved out a bigger role but what good is a role in this offense if you are not the lead back?
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I kinda doubt that.
Daboll and SIngletary go way back. Don't think he gets Wally Pipped so quickly.
He certainly will carve out some regular touches immediately and the door is now open if Singletary falters.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I guess you have to expand this but I put whole bunch of comments in yours above
Fair point to both of you on the Daboll/Singletary connection. I hadn't thought about that. I figure Tracy has earned major touches regardless and I'm not going to be in a ton of tiebreaker situations with him in/out of my lineups I don't think. The real reason I'm jazzed is the BB rostership. Potential for lots of leverage rest of season. If I have to plug him in at RB2 here and there then I'm ok with Singletary being involved. So few teams do the bellcow thing anyway.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
oh sure that's fair but weighed against that is the idea that rookies almost always start their first season a little slow and build up as it progresses. It would have really been a story if Singletary wasn't the 1 in week 1. If they are both healthy I'd be surprised if Singletary keeps the job rest of season but I'll concede he'll probably get it here next once again.
EBF
Footballguy
Coaches favor keeping their jobs too. I've always thought Singletary is pretty good, but the sticking point has always been that he's a 205 pound back with 4.6 speed. If you're a Tracy owner in redraft, you just have to hope for a situation where the difference between the two is so drastic that the coaches don't have a choice but to favor the rook. I don't know how likely that is. I just know it's a lot more likely today than it was a couple weeks ago.
I will say that the clips from this weekend were very impressive. Tracy looked like the real deal.
I also think the Giants are not quite as terrible as I thought they might be. Jones is at least somewhat playable. Nabers looks like a future star. Theo Johnson is already playable. This is not a completely hopeless offense. That's an arrow up for everyone involved.
Giants coach Brian Daboll said RB Devin Singletary (groin) is “trending in the right direction.”
Singletary practiced on Wednesday. The veteran back got in one limited practice last week before being listed as doubtful. He didn’t suit up on Sunday and Tyrone Tracy Jr. ran for 129 yards on 18 attempts in his absence. Singletary will likely start if he is cleared for action in Week 6, but Tracy played too well to be left out of the mix going forward. Singletary will rank as an RB3 if he makes it through this week’s practices without any setbacks.
Singletary practiced on Wednesday. The veteran back got in one limited practice last week before being listed as doubtful. He didn’t suit up on Sunday and Tyrone Tracy Jr. ran for 129 yards on 18 attempts in his absence. Singletary will likely start if he is cleared for action in Week 6, but Tracy played too well to be left out of the mix going forward. Singletary will rank as an RB3 if he makes it through this week’s practices without any setbacks.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Who knows when/if he takes over this year.
Coaches always favor the vet, but I'll point out that it's Devin Singletary.
He's always solid. Coaches seem to like him. But there seems to be trend where coaches go "eh, what if we tried something else?"
Coaches always favor the vet, but I'll point out that it's Devin Singletary.
He's always solid. Coaches seem to like him. But there seems to be trend where coaches go "eh, what if we tried something else?"
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Still starting him
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Don't like the fact that I'm in the same situation, but I like him a lot better than some of the rb2s out there
JamboTaylor
Footballguy
What’s he worth? Future 3rd? 2nd?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Singletary was limited again today at practice
I see a 50/50 split at worst, they're not going to overload Dev Singletary coming off injury where he's limited all week
Just my opinion and there's a decent match up this week vs Cincinnati which is struggling at 1-4 right now
I see a 50/50 split at worst, they're not going to overload Dev Singletary coming off injury where he's limited all week
Just my opinion and there's a decent match up this week vs Cincinnati which is struggling at 1-4 right now
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
Tracy’s first start was amazing. The Giants won without Nabers against a good team on the road. Nough said!
That's what I am stuck on. Add Nabers to open up more lanes and Tracy could be the next Achane 2023.
markrc99
Footballguy
I think you're right. As well as things went how Tracy was utilized I wouldn't have guessed. I was expecting him to be used more as a receiving option out of the backfield. Accordingly, the Bengals DL has really struggled to this point. Donk & Co. score, but they can't stop anybody. Unless his debut as a ball-carrier was a fluke, I think Tracy will prove himself the more versatile of the two. Singletary is a journeyman, sneaky inside runner but subject to game-script. Great in the locker room, the sort you want around a younger player that's trying to convert to the position. It appears to be going very well.
Chaka
Footballguy
I have to be honest, when a rookie has a big game in a veteran starters absence I generally don't think twice about the idea the vet will get Wally Pipped, and I would think, considering your vast experience (I mean magic football is a money maker for you, right?) you would feel the same. Singletary is a Dabol guy AFAIK, so why don't you think he'll stick with him as the primary when both are healthy? And, the fact Tracey had a big game last week isn't a good enough answer for me.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Yea, barring injury this will still be Singletary’s job. But, that doesn’t mean TTJ can’t carve himself out a nice role going forward - as a former WR, I’m really surprised he wasn’t targeted more last week.
Both backs healthy? I could see a 60-40 split happening eventually. Dabol needs to give Danny Dumps as many quick read options as possible.
markrc99
Footballguy
I think a player's place in any given situation is certainly part of it. Devin Singletary is a journeyman for obvious reasons. I feel your point would be more valid if the current regime had drafted .. Barkley & everything he had done, he did for them. But of course, that leaves out how talented the lead back actually is or isn't. Barkley wasn't their player & now he's gone. Tracy's versatility affords him a great opportunity as he's the closest thing they have to a 3-down back.
Perhaps a consideration will be that Tracy did better the more carries he got. If they go back to him just being fill & his effectiveness wanes & their ground game on whole falls back to where it was, what then? Could happen, but I can't imagine that lasting more than one game. As you point out, Singletary is a system guy for them. But he isn't going to play more if he isn't the more effective player.
Chaka
Footballguy
Barkley wasn't their guy, for sure but Singletary absolutely was and he is a three down guy. I love what Tracy did last week but I'm not seeing it as some changing of the guard.
Dabol is no dummy.
He'll give Singletary some rope, but if he wants to keep his job he's going to put the best players on the field.
Don't think this will happen overnight, but in a few weeks it could.
rockaction
Footballguy
Drafted him at 3.10 in one league and tried to acquire him in the other to no dice (we drafted in May and I had no picks, which is another story and my fault).
This guy takes over for Singletary very soon (next four or so games) if he hasn't already.
This guy takes over for Singletary very soon (next four or so games) if he hasn't already.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Matchup dependent really; both the NYG matchup, and your fantasy matchup.
I’d think that Singletary has the higher floor, Tracy the higher ceiling.
Lots of talk about Singletary being “Dabol’s guy” but … he also had influence in drafting Tracy, so that point could be proven to be moot.
I would be starting Tracy until Singletary proves he’s healthy though.
ohio#1eaglesfan
Footballguy
Singletary being Dabol’s guy is a nice way of saying he’s good but not great
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Well, my grammar above wasn't great but I did say that Daboll *will* go back to Singletary when they're both healthy, but that it won't last the season. I said "I'll concede he'll probably get it here next" meaning Singletary as the starter.
Why do I think Tracy will take over? Because rookies that are more talented or even perceived to be more talented (and fresh legs cheaper etc) take over from JAG vets all the time. It happens every year. IMO it should be the expectation in this particular situation.
Isn't that the case with so many of these backup or 1B RBs?
Sometimes they hit right away (Mason) due to injury. Many times you wait and wait and wait only to drop...and then they hit.
Same ol' game. Need a little luck.
Winning IS Everything
Footballguy
Sunday night I was offered a 2027 2nd and a trash heap RB for him. Thought a bit then the guy pulled the offer. I was not sure I wanted to wait three years for that pick. a 2025 2nd? I would have jumped at that as that class looks LOADED.
The General
Footballguy
Stinks that he is the Sunday night game. Likely won't know what's up with Singletary.
We may, just posted this in his thread but multiple beat writers are saying based on what he's not doing it looks like another Tracy week.
The General
Footballguy
Just saw that. If Singletary tells us he's out...The Tracy Train is a go!!
It's a great matchup so and seems no way that Singletary is close to being handle a full workload even if he's healthy so I'm firing up Tracy in a ton of leagues regardless. I just can't move him to the must start category until we know more on Singletary.
Devin Singletary (groin) is questionable for Week 6 against the Bengals.
Singletary was reportedly limited in all three Giants practices this week. His continued practice participation suggests he is healthy enough to play but it seems likely Brain Daboll restricts Singletary to a moderate snap count, or at least allow a hot-hand situation to play out. Explosive rookie Tyrone Tracy Jr. averaged 7.2 yards per carry last week, the fifth-best among NFL running backs with at least 10 carries in Week 5.
Singletary was reportedly limited in all three Giants practices this week. His continued practice participation suggests he is healthy enough to play but it seems likely Brain Daboll restricts Singletary to a moderate snap count, or at least allow a hot-hand situation to play out. Explosive rookie Tyrone Tracy Jr. averaged 7.2 yards per carry last week, the fifth-best among NFL running backs with at least 10 carries in Week 5.
