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RB Tyrone Tracy Jr., NYG (1 Viewer)
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nittanylion
Footballguy
I'm aware that the 49'ers are a borderline elite rushing Team, however after watching the Seahawks rush defense get perforated two weeks in a row, I think this absolutely needs to be factored into the equation.
Singletary isn't a world-beater, but he's not exactly a JAG, either, IMHO. For me to call a Player 'JAG', he's a blip on the radar, borderline unrosterable, and probably on most high-acumen Leagues waiver wires, as opposed to being rostered. Singletary's body of work is way above my definition of JAG...but that's just me. YMMV. He's good enough, and Daboll knows what he has in him. That's good enough for me.
Also, don't forget that as RB Draft classes go, 2024 was far from a banner year. Tracy was a Day 3 pick, the 10th RB selected on Day 3, and 14th of 20 RB's selected overall, in a poor class. That's a lot closer to predictive JAG outcome, to me at least.
I'm not investing FAAB or roster space on Tyrone Tracy in redraft at this time, although if Singletary misses time, Tracy will have the most important factor when it comes to predicting RB utilization, which is 'opportunity'. If they're both healthy, it's a time share on a bad football team, where I think the most optimistic percentage for Tracy is 50/50. That doesn't move my needle, and I'm OK being wrong about him, if it comes to pass that he's more than I think he is.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Singletary does everything fine. Slightly above average plus probably good leaderships qualities. I’m not sure how anyone that pops for that much in their first start isn’t worth a roster add. There are so many “singletaries” on fantasy rosters (Christian Kirk, Tyler Lockett, Sutton). Very known quantities and they are basically players you plug and play, but won’t win you any leagues. This guy Tracy has it in his range of outcomes to be a difference maker. Better owning him than Justice Hill or something
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
It's not just two weeks in a row really.
Antonio Gibson racked up 11-98 with Rhamondre going 21-81
Gibbs casually put up 14-78 and while they technically controlled Monty (12-40) six of those runs were obvious run situations with either less than three yards for the first down or TD or one in the shadow of the Lions end zone.
They did completely shut Down Devon Achane but that's a lot easier to do when Skylar White is your QB, even easier when it's Skylar Thompson.
EBF
Footballguy
I'm benching him in redraft because I have some better options.
I'll probably throw him into a few cheap DFS teams.
In terms of this weekend, not sure how much I love the game script against CIN. Cincy has been a mess, but they can put up a lot of points in a hurry. Easy to envision scenarios where NYG is playing catch up with low time of possession, which might not be great for the RB unless he's catching a lot of passes. With Nabers still out, this feels like a good opportunity for the Bengals to put together a comprehensive win.
Long-term, the job should be available if Tracy can prove he's the real deal. Is Singletary a JAG? A couple ways you can look at that. He's still in the NFL after 5+ years, so he can't be terrible. On the other hand, the Bills never wanted to make him the guy. While he was there they spent high picks on Moss and Cook. They never gave Singletary the full workload and he was never very startable in FF despite playing on a potent offense. That's all very JAG-y. As hurdles go, he shouldn't be insurmountable. But he also seems like someone who will leech 10-12 touches per week this season even if Tracy plays well.
The scenario you have to hope for if you're a Tracy owner is that he's just too good too keep down. I think it's a possibility, but not a certainty. His clips from last week were great. He wasn't just running through huge holes for easy yards. He was creating yards above expectation, which is what great backs do. Now let's see if he can continue the trend. If so, nobody will care that he was a 5th round pick, just like they didn't care about where Tyreek, Purdy, Brady, Foster, Priest Holmes, Antonio Gates, Victor Cruz, Marques Colston, and their like were or weren't drafted. Draft capital has predictive value, but becomes less relevant as you get a better sense of what the player actually looks like against NFL defenders. Sometimes 1st rounders play like 5th rounders, and vice versa. Nobody cares today that N'Keal Harry was drafted ahead of Deebo Samuel, DK Metcalf, and AJ Brown.
I'll probably throw him into a few cheap DFS teams.
In terms of this weekend, not sure how much I love the game script against CIN. Cincy has been a mess, but they can put up a lot of points in a hurry. Easy to envision scenarios where NYG is playing catch up with low time of possession, which might not be great for the RB unless he's catching a lot of passes. With Nabers still out, this feels like a good opportunity for the Bengals to put together a comprehensive win.
Long-term, the job should be available if Tracy can prove he's the real deal. Is Singletary a JAG? A couple ways you can look at that. He's still in the NFL after 5+ years, so he can't be terrible. On the other hand, the Bills never wanted to make him the guy. While he was there they spent high picks on Moss and Cook. They never gave Singletary the full workload and he was never very startable in FF despite playing on a potent offense. That's all very JAG-y. As hurdles go, he shouldn't be insurmountable. But he also seems like someone who will leech 10-12 touches per week this season even if Tracy plays well.
The scenario you have to hope for if you're a Tracy owner is that he's just too good too keep down. I think it's a possibility, but not a certainty. His clips from last week were great. He wasn't just running through huge holes for easy yards. He was creating yards above expectation, which is what great backs do. Now let's see if he can continue the trend. If so, nobody will care that he was a 5th round pick, just like they didn't care about where Tyreek, Purdy, Brady, Foster, Priest Holmes, Antonio Gates, Victor Cruz, Marques Colston, and their like were or weren't drafted. Draft capital has predictive value, but becomes less relevant as you get a better sense of what the player actually looks like against NFL defenders. Sometimes 1st rounders play like 5th rounders, and vice versa. Nobody cares today that N'Keal Harry was drafted ahead of Deebo Samuel, DK Metcalf, and AJ Brown.
markrc99
Footballguy
Even the times I do well, by season's end I feel fortunate to have 4 or 5 of the same players I drafted. Without a high priority I'm not getting the obvious adds on Tuesday or Wednesday. So it's the speculative adds, @RB this week I have no idea, I feel fortunate to have Tracy. Brian Robinson is my RB2, I'm not waiting 'til game time to find out whether he's playing. Backing him up I have Kareem Hunt, Jaylen Wright & Tracy, who's the only one available. Not likely in dynasty leagues but the speculative add @WR I like this week is Ja'Lynn Polk.
Let's go!
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Not only that, but very pro Tracy in his responses to fans.
Yes and key to note for us fantasy people is he's giving out a 50/50 workload expectation between them if Singletary plays. This being key because this provides a level of comfort that should I decide to roll the dice on Tracy without knowing Singletary's status for a SNF game that he's still going to have a role and some production. It's actually helping me make a lot of lineup calls.Not only that, but very pro Tracy in his responses to fans.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Like Mason.
massraider
Footballguy
Looking beyond one week, as an owner, I wanna see some TARGETS.
My man was a WR first at Purdue, let's throw this guy the ball.
He might be a play just passed on percentage of offense he gets this week.
My man was a WR first at Purdue, let's throw this guy the ball.
He might be a play just passed on percentage of offense he gets this week.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Didn’t get targets when averaging 10 yards a clip
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Singletary ruled OUT
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Him or Slayton is the question.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Tracy and Slayton
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Bench Najee for Tracy?
I was on the fence on this call when I thought Singletary was playing.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Najee gonna get a lot of work and probably good field position all day
grabnmcbuttt
Footballguy
Tracy or Bucky? Leaning Bucky thinking Tampa will be leading New Orleans with the Saints throwing Rattlier out there.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Warren playing this week though.
Asslete
Footballguy
I did
wgoldsph
Footballguy
How is this a question?
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
… why was this a question?
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Najee has yet to go over 70 yards or score a td this year. He's not even a safe floor option really
rockaction
Footballguy
Here's what I wrote to my friend when we were "on the clock" during our slow draft. This is what I said about trading Musgrave for the 3.10 (ten-team league) before selecting Tracy in my text messsages. We are not TE Prem; in fact, we get .2 per reception for all players, so TE is only VBD relevant unless you're Kelce or Bowers.
"Nah man you know. The Giants are going to get sick of Singletary in like two seconds. This is the wrong move and this is how bad teams stay bad [selecting Tracy over J.J. McCarthy if the trade didn't happen], but I have to do it almost."
But the trade went through so I took J.J. McCarthy at 3.09 and Tracy at 3.10.
I just don't think Singletary is the kind of vet yet that coaches go to the wall for. I haven't seen it yet. McDermott is about as stubborn as you get, and he replaced Singletary in his prime with James Cook once Cook got his fumbling under control (supposedly). So Singletary is hurt this week and it gives Tracy and Gray another week to show what they can do as a tandem (I thought Gray looked explosive catching the ball and Tracy is going to need to come off the field at times).
"Nah man you know. The Giants are going to get sick of Singletary in like two seconds. This is the wrong move and this is how bad teams stay bad [selecting Tracy over J.J. McCarthy if the trade didn't happen], but I have to do it almost."
But the trade went through so I took J.J. McCarthy at 3.09 and Tracy at 3.10.
I just don't think Singletary is the kind of vet yet that coaches go to the wall for. I haven't seen it yet. McDermott is about as stubborn as you get, and he replaced Singletary in his prime with James Cook once Cook got his fumbling under control (supposedly). So Singletary is hurt this week and it gives Tracy and Gray another week to show what they can do as a tandem (I thought Gray looked explosive catching the ball and Tracy is going to need to come off the field at times).
Bloom has him at 13 with a projection of 16.8 points in PPR.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Fumbles this year through week 5 for an offense that really can't afford to be giving the ball away on drives.
Singletary - 2
Gray - 2 (one on a kickoff)
Tracy - 0
Singletary - 2
Gray - 2 (one on a kickoff)
Tracy - 0
The General
Footballguy
Giddy up. Startiing with some confidence over Joe Mixon and Trey Sermon. Show out on SNF, kid!
Insein
Footballguy
This is a really tough call. Most places have Pollard ranked as high as 8th for the week. He has a real smash play coming off the bye. Tracy should eat too though.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Am I the only one picked up both him and slayton and now have no idea which to start in the flex?
Insein
Footballguy
Yea that's the conundrum I have. I know if I sit Pollard, he'll go off and I'll be sitting there waiting until tonight to see if it was worth it.
Absolutely Nothing
Footballguy
Starting Tracy over Cook (and Ray Davis should Cook be out).
Hoping for a splash!
Hoping for a splash!
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Bro.
This is why THAT was a question.
Still, we don’t know what Tracy is going to do, but sometimes a little thought is warranted before blurting out “how is this a question”
wgoldsph
Footballguy
My "little thought" was that Najee hadn't gone over 70 yards or scored this season - a five game sample size which is more than enough to draw a conclusion. Imo this is a clear reason to permanently bench, or outright drop, a player until they string together multiple good games.
I was wrong this week but sometimes there's weeks where a guy like Ray Ray McCloud scores more than Justin Jefferson. If Harris doesn't turn back into a pumpkin next week I'll totally eat that crow here.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You guys need to get a room
wgoldsph
Footballguy
I don't understand the play calling at all. Electric no1 wr is out? Better go pass heavy despite the score being 7-0.
