Redzone channel (1 Viewer)

[Mister CIA]

I don't feel ungrateful.

 

[JohnnyU]

I hate not having the previoius button streaming YouTube TV.

press and hold the center button on your remote.

I figured that would be it. Next week I'll try that. Thanks to all that suggested it.

 

[Chaka]

I hate not having the previoius button streaming YouTube TV.

Hold the "OK" button a couple seconds.

For real? Or does that rank up there with press any key to continue? LOL. BTW, there isn't an OK button on Apple remote.

Yup, that works. Hold OK for a few seconds and it will go back and forth between two stations you choose.

No OK button on an apple remote.

I sure they have an equivalent. Try whichever button you use for Enter.

 

[Mister CIA]

I'm relying on memory, but I think on my Roku I can arrow down three times and hit okay to toggle to previous channel. Sometimes I don't remember things well.

 

[Chaka]

I'm relying on memory, but I think on my Roku I can arrow down three times and hit okay to toggle to previous channel. Sometimes I don't remember things well.

My Roku remote it's just holding the okay button.

 

[Wingnut]

I hate not having the previoius button streaming YouTube TV.

Hold the "OK" button a couple seconds.

For real? Or does that rank up there with press any key to continue? LOL. BTW, there isn't an OK button on Apple remote.

Yup, that works. Hold OK for a few seconds and it will go back and forth between two stations you choose.

No OK button on an apple remote.

Is there a SELECT button? If so try that or get a firestick.

 

[JohnnyU]

I hate not having the previoius button streaming YouTube TV.

Hold the "OK" button a couple seconds.

For real? Or does that rank up there with press any key to continue? LOL. BTW, there isn't an OK button on Apple remote.

Yup, that works. Hold OK for a few seconds and it will go back and forth between two stations you choose.

No OK button on an apple remote.

Is there a SELECT button? If so try that or get a firestick.

Center button (no label) on the remote is what to try. I assume hold down for a few seconds. I'll give it a try.

 

[wgoldsph]

I think redzone is amazing and I can’t imagine walking the line that some seem to think is reasonable! Absolutely no errors in 7 hours, you goof balls!! Oh no, I saw part of a commercial, quick start complaining!

The ad stuff has been said. I'm not bothered by him making flubs, I'm bothered by the fact that he's talking over the announcers who are giving the correct information. When I already am struggling to see who caught the ball in a sea of bodies in one of the triple screens (my TV is what you call "cheap"), having the wrong information because he's talking over the right information makes the entire process unwatchable.

That said, I'm paying for a service. I can complain about the quality of the service. Redzone isn't a new exciting format, it's a monopoly of a broadcasting method that has no competition. The only thing I can do to change anything is complain... And even that won't change anything.

I love RedZone and I think Hanson is fantastic. Sure he makes mistakes navigating game action non stop for 7 hours.

But I also remember when the first time I'd see game highlights was halftime of the MONDAY night game. LOL.

I feel like this is a difference in ideology.
I would like to watch a game without color commentary - just tell me who and where, let me make my own opinion as to if the 5th string left tackle has just been waiting to prove himself. Others like what color commentators add to the broadcast, insight into the players and plays. Hanson is a color commentator to me. He tries to play-by-play, but he's too interested in being a fan to give the stats.

Sure. But fortunately, both types can be easily satisfied. The type that doesn't like commentary can simply mute the sound. Everyone wins.

Unfortunately redzone needs volume, especially when there's some sort of split screen. As mentioned above, my TV isn't that great. Tried closed captions, but you can't see any plays on the near side of the field. And normal games still need a play-by-play of some sort, even if it's just a small scroll at the bottom of the screen at the end of every play listing the key information.

 

[Golden Gopher]

I love the RZ, but I do agree that the talking over someone else who is talking is annoying. If they're going to have the volume from a particular game going, he should stop talking. Then, when they go away from that game (or "mute" that game), he can talk again. Listening to multiple conversations at once is no good. Hopefully they'll figure it out eventually.... It's an easy fix.

 

[billmatic]

Thoughts and prayers to everyone who had to see a couple half commercials yesterday

 

[need2know]

Mentioned previously, it's the contant distraction of multiple boxes - what I hear and what I see are constantly out of alignment.

Interesting. Thanks. It's always good to hear different takes. But I feel as informed as ever. Maybe more.

Do you think the Red Zone experience is the same as it always was (or, say five years ago), or do you think it's better?

Seems the same to me

 

[joey]

Mentioned previously, it's the contant distraction of multiple boxes - what I hear and what I see are constantly out of alignment.

Interesting. Thanks. It's always good to hear different takes. But I feel as informed as ever. Maybe more.

Do you think the Red Zone experience is the same as it always was (or, say five years ago), or do you think it's better?

Seems the same to me

Same to me as well.

I agree the double audio is annoying/distracting at times, but these dudes are jumping around between multiple games live. It’s a directing/producing/coordinating juggling act.

Love it and it feeds my fantasy football addiction.

 

[wgoldsph]

Thoughts and prayers to everyone who had to see a couple half commercials yesterday

No one is claiming it's the end of the world.

The product I paid for is no commercials. It had commercials. So I have a complaint about the product. It's the same as if you get a box from Amazon that's beaten up but otherwise okay and you grouching to people you know about it.

 

[TampaMike19]

People that defend the NFL “sneaking in a commercial or two isn’t a big deal” are missing the point. In a capitalist society, once the seal is broken and people blow it off, they will start to creep and inch more and more into more ads into an “ad-free” space. Wouldn’t surprise me since red zone has a minute delay that they are testing or piloting the social media feedback if they leave a game on when they split box and show an ad.

Give capitalists and inch and they will take at minimum an inch.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Just wait till we have advertising logos on NFL Game day jerseys...

 

[Chaka]

Thoughts and prayers to everyone who had to see a couple half commercials yesterday

That is missing the point entirely. The NFL literally advertises the RZ as 7 hours of commercial free football.

In the digital space many subscription services offer ad-free products at premium pricing to make up for lost ad revenue. That's what RZ was.

If you pay for a service that advertises itself as one thing and then they provide you something else you should be upset by it.

Next year people will continue to pay the same premium (possibly higher) for an ad filled service.

T'n'P to anyone who rolls over for that type of business practice without complaint. The fact that those people will continue to pay a premium for this service regardless is the reason the NFL won't be held accountable.

 

[Chaka]

Just wait till we have advertising logos on NFL Game day jerseys...

Better than commercials IMO.

To bad it isn't an either/or proposition.

 

[Chaka]

And we are probably only a decade or so away from true corporate NFL team ownership. I am certain people will be pumped to root for the Blackstone Capital Cowboys versus the KKR Eagles.

Ratings won't drop a bit though, because their children will be attending Goldman Sachs Elementary School in the city of Dallas brought to you by The Carlyle Group.

 

[Mister CIA]

Thoughts and prayers to everyone who had to see a couple half commercials yesterday

No one is claiming it's the end of the world.

The product I paid for is no commercials. It had commercials. So I have a complaint about the product. It's the same as if you get a box from Amazon that's beaten up but otherwise okay and you grouching to people you know about it.

I don't even mind commercials - it's who we are. It's the subpar production that bothers me.

 

[eighsse2]

Just wait till we have advertising logos on NFL Game day jerseys...

I am someone who doesn't really mind commercials at all generally, but something about that I really hate. Not sure why it seems so bad to me, there are ads all over the stadium already anyway. Hope it never happens but likely it will.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Just wait till we have advertising logos on NFL Game day jerseys...

I am someone who doesn't really mind commercials at all generally, but something about that I really hate. Not sure why it seems so bad to me, there are ads all over the stadium already anyway. Hope it never happens but likely it will.

I hear you. But it's on the way.

 

[pinequick]

"Seven and half hours of commercial-free football starts NOWWWWWWW... with a couple of commercials that we'll throw in and have the audio of those take precedence over the game action that you already paid extra for."

 

[Chaka]

"Seven and half hours of commercial-free football starts NOWWWWWWW... with a couple of commercials that we'll throw in and have the audio of those take precedence over the game action that you already paid extra for."

It's terrible. The problem is the NFL knows very few people who love RedZone will walk away because of this. It's only going to get worse. You can expect advertising on jerseys, CGI'd into the field, imbedded into the crawl etc.

To me the worst is commercials because they don't level their audio. Most broadcasts make painstaking effort to level audio appropriate to the situation. Commercials just turn the level to 11 and blast away. It's horribly jarring.

As technology improves they will eventually be able to offer more individually customized viewing experiences. For example, I despise the crawl. Your eye tracks it constantly and you can't train your eyes to ignore it entirely. I hate it with a capital H (and infinity exclamation points). I used to blue tape a piece of cardboard across the bottom of my TV so I could just watch a game without distractions. Then I got married so...

So NFL, if you're listening, and I know you are, I will pay you money to be able to remove the crawl from my viewing experience. TIA.

 

[simsarge]

So... Redzone just has ads now?

Two commercials that cut the volume out of the game, which takes up a third of the screen.

Thats the game feed. Normally they switch away when they do that but I guess no other games were live at that point.

The Verizon ad they showed early on is part of RedZone and not the local broadcast since they are a major sponsor of the channel

The split screen one they had with Lamar was the split in game screen.

The "split" takes up a third of the screen and they cut the volume from the game to play the ad.

That's no longer commercial free.

Yeah there were ads from Verizon, Visa, and Gatorade. Lots of people online are complaining about it. I didn’t mind the banner ads they showed once in a while but when they interrupt with a picture-in-picture commercial with audio, that’s against their whole “7 hours of commercial-free football” mantra.

So the Fan Dual ads that no one was bothered by before are still OK?

Random offensive player fumbling thru the End Zone +325
Random defensive player doing it on the same weekend +850

 

[Mister CIA]

"Seven and half hours of commercial-free football starts NOWWWWWWW... with a couple of commercials that we'll throw in and have the audio of those take precedence over the game action that you already paid extra for."

It's terrible. The problem is the NFL knows very few people who love RedZone will walk away because of this. It's only going to get worse. You can expect advertising on jerseys, CGI'd into the field, imbedded into the crawl etc.

To me the worst is commercials because they don't level their audio. Most broadcasts make painstaking effort to level audio appropriate to the situation. Commercials just turn the level to 11 and blast away. It's horribly jarring.

As technology improves they will eventually be able to offer more individually customized viewing experiences. For example, I despise the crawl. Your eye tracks it constantly and you can't train your eyes to ignore it entirely. I hate it with a capital H (and infinity exclamation points). I used to blue tape a piece of cardboard across the bottom of my TV so I could just watch a game without distractions. Then I got married so...

So NFL, if you're listening, and I know you are, I will pay you money to be able to remove the crawl from my viewing experience. TIA.

Celebrity long snappers, what do you think?

 

[Desert_Power]

"Seven and half hours of commercial-free football starts NOWWWWWWW... with a couple of commercials that we'll throw in and have the audio of those take precedence over the game action that you already paid extra for."

It's terrible. The problem is the NFL knows very few people who love RedZone will walk away because of this. It's only going to get worse. You can expect advertising on jerseys, CGI'd into the field, imbedded into the crawl etc.

To me the worst is commercials because they don't level their audio. Most broadcasts make painstaking effort to level audio appropriate to the situation. Commercials just turn the level to 11 and blast away. It's horribly jarring.

As technology improves they will eventually be able to offer more individually customized viewing experiences. For example, I despise the crawl. Your eye tracks it constantly and you can't train your eyes to ignore it entirely. I hate it with a capital H (and infinity exclamation points). I used to blue tape a piece of cardboard across the bottom of my TV so I could just watch a game without distractions. Then I got married so...

So NFL, if you're listening, and I know you are, I will pay you money to be able to remove the crawl from my viewing experience. TIA.

Celebrity long snappers, what do you think?

Sounds like a job for Pat McAfee

 

[cockroach]

To me the worst is commercials because they don't level their audio. Most broadcasts make painstaking effort to level audio appropriate to the situation. Commercials just turn the level to 11 and blast away. It's horribly jarring.

Doest every TV come w a "leveling" audio setting these days?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Hanson apologized for using the "commercial free" line. I'm sure he can't control whether the show has commercials or not. But he controls what he says and he was wrong and owned it.

Scott Hanson Apologizes to Fans for Breaking His Commercial-Free Promise on 'NFL RedZone'

Fans weren't happy to see an ad on their screen last Sunday.

www.si.com

 

[heckmanm]

I’m less bothered by a brief bit of commercial from a game feed than by the sponsored bits taking up 20% of the RZ screen for large swaths of time every week. No apologies given for that, I imagine.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I’m less bothered by a brief bit of commercial from a game feed than by the sponsored bits taking up 20% of the RZ screen for large swaths of time every week. No apologies given for that, I imagine.

Correct. The apology was for saying it was commercial free. He was very clear about that.

 

[heckmanm]

Ok hadn’t clicked the link so wasn’t aware of this:

Sportico.com has since confirmed through NFL Media that Sunday's split-screen commercial wasn't a gaffe, and that RedZone was—in fact—testing playing ads during the program.

But they have had sponsorships of top plays and other stats in the sidebar for years, with Hanson calling out “presented by whoever” and never saw the need to apologize for that

 

[Chaka]

To me the worst is commercials because they don't level their audio. Most broadcasts make painstaking effort to level audio appropriate to the situation. Commercials just turn the level to 11 and blast away. It's horribly jarring.

Doest every TV come w a "leveling" audio setting these days?

Maybe but they're very ineffective IMO. Commercials generally sound like a maxed out "THX" intro.

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

He definitely did not say "commercial free" in today's intro.

 

[Desert_Power]

There is actual football going on and they are showing clips of McVay's presser from after the game yesterday? What is going on here?

 

[Todem]

Scott Hanson talks waaaaaay too much.

Can you please just stay quiet for 30 seconds? Can you?

 

[Todem]

And he listened…….been quiet for over a minute.

 

[karl.Racki]

Scott Hanson talks waaaaaay too much.

Can you please just stay quiet for 30 seconds? Can you?

dude also flips to another game too fast.. I don't know how many times I watched a guy score and a flag down and he flips..

 

[karl.Racki]

Has RZ ever ended their broadcast after 1PM games before.. I been a RZ subscriber since 2005 with DTV, and I think there was a week early that they did cause there was like only 2 late games.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Has RZ ever ended their broadcast after 1PM games before.. I been a RZ subscriber since 2005 with DTV, and I think there was a week early that they did cause there was like only 2 late games.

Not that I know of and I’ve had it forever. It’s on now with 2 games going

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Has RZ ever ended their broadcast after 1PM games before.. I been a RZ subscriber since 2005 with DTV, and I think there was a week early that they did cause there was like only 2 late games.

Not that I know of and I’ve had it forever. It’s on now with 2 games going

Yeah, and today is not the day to criticize them. They have 2 whole games to choose from.