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Report: Norwood took most of 1st team snaps and is up to 210 (1 Viewer)
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KellysHeroes
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Yeap.. thats y you drafted him, then traded him away when his value was the lowest
. Just messin w/ UI agree, Norwood should come a stud during playoff time.aldelgreco
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I Know- ACF- but, if you were me, would you give up your 14th round pick to retain Norwood, or your late 2nd rounder to retain Reggie Bush in a keep-one league?
Big Score
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KellysHeroes
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Norwood.. ride the value
burd
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you gotta look at the big picture in this situation ...
Assuming he's healthy, Dunn will get a majority of carries for the first part of the season. As the season starts to fall apart (and don't fool yourself into thinking that Atlanta won't begin to come apart at the seams as the losses mount), I see Norwood getting more and more carries.
This is a team on the verge of total dissaray ... i'm avoiding everyone on this team except Alge, and he'll be gone way too early for my liking.
Assuming he's healthy, Dunn will get a majority of carries for the first part of the season. As the season starts to fall apart (and don't fool yourself into thinking that Atlanta won't begin to come apart at the seams as the losses mount), I see Norwood getting more and more carries.
This is a team on the verge of total dissaray ... i'm avoiding everyone on this team except Alge, and he'll be gone way too early for my liking.
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sholditch
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Petrino has said that he thinks Norwood and Dunn will split the carries between the 20s and that Snelling will handle all GL work. The Atlanta RB picture looks to be one of the messiest around...
HOWEVER
Petrino will quickly learn that Vick can't throw with any accuracy, and that his receivers suck (sorry Roddy). It won't take long for the Atlanta media to jump all over him for trying to do what two other coaches have failed to be able to do: teach Vick to pass. Three games into the season the reality that Vick simply isn't an accurate passer will set in, and Petrino will be desperate for a win simply to get the incredibly ruthless ATL media off his back. IF Norwood can produce on the ground better than both Snelling and Dunn (shouldn't be hard) and get the ball in the end zone, Petrino's game plan goes in the toilet and he rides Norwood. However, that's a lot of IFs.
IMO, if Norwood is there in round 5 of redrafts I think he is a safe pick at that point, but not a great one. If you can get him in the seventh or higher he represents excellent value.
I don't think Petrino will succeed in the NFL and that he'll be out in 2 years. It might get so bad he doesn't even get a second year. I could easily see this being the last year of the Falcons as we know them. Midway through the season he will be looking for any gameplan that can get him out of the Georgia Dome without getting drinks thrown on his head.
HOWEVER
Petrino will quickly learn that Vick can't throw with any accuracy, and that his receivers suck (sorry Roddy). It won't take long for the Atlanta media to jump all over him for trying to do what two other coaches have failed to be able to do: teach Vick to pass. Three games into the season the reality that Vick simply isn't an accurate passer will set in, and Petrino will be desperate for a win simply to get the incredibly ruthless ATL media off his back. IF Norwood can produce on the ground better than both Snelling and Dunn (shouldn't be hard) and get the ball in the end zone, Petrino's game plan goes in the toilet and he rides Norwood. However, that's a lot of IFs.
IMO, if Norwood is there in round 5 of redrafts I think he is a safe pick at that point, but not a great one. If you can get him in the seventh or higher he represents excellent value.
I don't think Petrino will succeed in the NFL and that he'll be out in 2 years. It might get so bad he doesn't even get a second year. I could easily see this being the last year of the Falcons as we know them. Midway through the season he will be looking for any gameplan that can get him out of the Georgia Dome without getting drinks thrown on his head.
Exile
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David Yudkin
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Not exactly what he said verbatim, but along those lines . . .And while Petrino knows how his line will block, he's still not sure how his running backs will break down.
"I'm still waiting to see that as far as how to use them," Petrino said of veteran Warrick Dunn and second-year rusher Jerious Norwood. "I haven't gotten to see a lot of Warrick. He did progress during minicamp -- the first couple of days he did individual (drills), by the end of camp he was in our seven-on-seven drills and did some of our blitz pick-up. But I still need to get to know him besides watching video. You kind of know what they do when you watch years past in the video, but you need to get him out there to see how you utilize him."
The consensus among analysts is that Petrino prefers his running backs to be stronger inside types, which doesn't describe Dunn or Norwood. They're both reliant on their speed more than their strength, though Norwood is a little bit thicker, and as Petrino said, "isn't shy at all as far as putting his shoulder down or putting his head down into contact."
One aspect of the Falcons' ground game that appears to be in place is who will take care of the short-yardage work. Seventh-round pick Jason Snelling out of Virginia has been tabbed by Petrino to be the Falcons' big-back when they need to pick up a couple of yards, including at the goal line.
"Snelling will be a guy who can hopefully handle our short-yardage and goal-line work," Petrino said. "He'd be a cross between a big running back and play some fullback. And he's got really good hands, so he's a very valuable part of the puzzle. He started off a little slow in minicamp but got better each day and was starting to see things and make some cuts. That's what we hope, that he is that guy."
If Snelling does capitalize on this opportunity, then the Fantasy value of Dunn and Norwood will decrease since neither one of them will get those touchdowns inside the five-yard line. Snelling would be a dark horse to be this year's Brandon Jacobs.
And while Dunn and Norwood won't get the touchdowns, they'll both be in position to get plenty of yards as Petrino is a believer in using multiple backs and plans on going with Dunn and Norwood a bunch.
"I think you need more than one running back," Petrino said. "I always have. I watch the game and I get the feel that the linebackers, safeties and running backs take all the collisions. Eventually you're going to get banged up, and when you're banged up you're not 100 percent. Hopefully, the other (running back) is. So the ability to get one of them there 100 percent full speed every game is good, so I really think we'll need both."
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KellysHeroes
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Willie Parker Found the Endzone plenty of times last yr and the steelers we're a "Big Back" system.
sholditch
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Don't kill the messenger. Seems to me it's pretty plain that Petrino will be using all three backs. Norwood and Dunn will likely cut into each other's yards, meaning it's unlikely that either one reaches 1k yards or goes over 5 TDs. Again, though, this is IF everything goes to plan, Petrino's gameplan translates from a weak college conference to the pros, and Vick magically becomes an accurate, reliable passer. I think the chances of both those things happening are about equal to the earth colliding with the Sun in the next ten years
dunn is definately the value pick this year. he is a LOCK ( baring injury and in a league with at least 12 teams ) at rb3 numbers with an upside of rb2 numbers and possibly rb1 numbers if norwood gets hurt. can anybody say the same about norwood? nobody really knows for CERTAIN.
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LBH
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I feel the same way about Norwood as you feel about Dunn. I think Dunn isnt a lock for anything. I see him getting half the carries with a strong possibility of Norwood getting the bulk as the season goes on. Hes a 32yr old 180lb er coming off shoulder surgery. Norwood is a 23yr old 210lb rb playing for a new coach that prefers bigger backs. Petrino doesnt owe anyone any favors and I think Norwood was the better back last year. JMO
this is true, so why pay dunn 4 million this year? certainly not to sit on the bench. he will get his share of carries. NO WAY are they going to pay a guy 4 million and not give him enough touches to warrent a rb3 slot fantasy wise.
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rzrback77
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I think that it is very interesting that last year in the summer all the talk about Norwood was too small, he's got bird legs and he's probably got a better shot at playing wide receiver.
Now this year, Jerious is bulked up to 210 and its Dunn that has all the he's too small for the power running game.
I love the SEC and I like Jerious Norwood, but Atlanta looks like RBBC to the third degree if Dunn stays healthy.
Now this year, Jerious is bulked up to 210 and its Dunn that has all the he's too small for the power running game.
I love the SEC and I like Jerious Norwood, but Atlanta looks like RBBC to the third degree if Dunn stays healthy.
Liquid Tension
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Maybe I missed it as I didn;t go through all the responses, but isn't anyone scracthing their heads a little at Norwood getting bigger in his shoulders and chest? While getting a little stronger in teh shoulders is a good thing, I want my RB getting huge in the legs and not the upper body
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
KellysHeroes
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Thats only the beat writers opinion... we really don't know where he buffed up; but one would think that it was poritional.
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The Man With No Name
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KellysHeroes
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Great find"Running back Jerious Norwood (32) has taken most of the repetitions at mini-camp while Warrick Dunn recovers from surgery. "
Norwood looks like a normal running back to me.
joffer
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he's got legs like Olive Oyl
lions327
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This is typical fantasy football wishing and hoping. Face it, Dunn is a quality NFL RB, and he will get plenty of work. He has 3 straight seasons with over 1000 yards rushing. The Norwood owners don't want to believe this, but Dunn isn't going anywhere. He may not get quite as much work as the last 3 years, but he isn't going to disappear either. This doesn't even factor in Snelling.
This smells like classic RBBC.
This smells like classic RBBC.
