Ronnie Brown confirmed FULL ACL Tear (1 Viewer)

[Ron_Mexico]

Michael Turner.....

They aren't trading for MIchael Turner, are you kiddin! RB will rehab, he will have to work hard, but ACL tears happen every year and people come back from them all the time. He will be back in September and be starting for the Dolphins

Denial is not just reserved for head coaches, I guess.

 

[JohnnyU]

Michael Turner.....

They aren't trading for MIchael Turner, are you kiddin! RB will rehab, he will have to work hard, but ACL tears happen every year and people come back from them all the time. He will be back in September and be starting for the Dolphins

MIA wouldn't be trading. Turner is an UFA next year and Cam is obviously VERY familiar with him from his San Diego days. Do I think it'll happen? It's a long shot, but you never know.

As a Turner owner I would hate for him to go to Miami. That would end up being a dynasty nightmare for Turner owners once Brown is back, and that will be next season.

 

[SayWhat?]

It's conceivable that Miami could go after Turner. However, I just don't see it. They'll have Brown returning from ACL surgery, and assuming that's all he did to his knee, that return should be before the opener next season. They'll also have Chatman, who at the very least appears serviceable, and even Booker whom they spent a 1st day pick on this season.

On top of that, Turner's going to want to go somewhere that he's assured to be "the man" since he'll finally be out of LT's shadow, and I don't think Miami fits the bill. I'd say the chances of Turner signing in Miami are less than 5%.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

It's the middle of October. Brown may play at the beginning of next year, but his effectiveness will be limited.

Of course, that will fit right in with the rest of the team, so maybe y'all are right about his roster spot.

Edgerrin James tore his ACL six games into the 2001 season and was limited severely in 2002 (yes, he did still catch a lot of passes). And Brown is no James.

OTOH - McAllster played okay the year after.

 

[SayWhat?]

It's the middle of October. Brown may play at the beginning of next year, but his effectiveness will be limited.Of course, that will fit right in with the rest of the team, so maybe y'all are right about his roster spot.Edgerrin James tore his ACL six games into the 2001 season and was limited severely in 2002 (yes, he did still catch a lot of passes). And Brown is no James.

And Deuce tore his ACL in October of 2005, was participating in drills in June of 2006 and returned to the lineup for a fairly productive season in September of 2006. I think ACL surgery has evolved light years even since Edge had his in 2001.ETA: I see you added a comment about Deuce.

 

[ThePittbully]

Michael Turner, come on down!

When is the trade deadline?IMO, this won't happen. SD wants too much for Turner, I believe it's a first round pick. The Dolphins are going to get a top 5 pick next year and have other needs. Plus, what would Turner do? Free the Dolphins from a 0 - 16 season?

I think he means next year, why would an 0-6 team try to trade for a guy who's a free agent next season???

 

[scott72]

Turner will be a starting back for some team next year, but it won't be Miami..

 

[Joe Bryant]

A full ACL tear is when the ligament is completely torn. Athletes can play without ACL's (see Brian Westbrook and Heinz Ward). McGahee and Culpepper blew out every ligament in their knee (I believe it was MCL, PCL and ACL). Brown tore just his ACL which is a surgery he can easily recover from. This is coming from experience (ACL and Mensicus transplant recipient here).

On the other hand, a partial tear is a sprain. This usually requires rest depending on severity. Since RB is out for the year, it's no surprise that it is a full tear. Therefore, IMO, this did not need a new thread.

Why not change the title of this thread? http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=358053

because i wasn't the original poster and don't have the edit permissions to change someone else's posts. by the way people, I followed Joe's guidelines and even he chimed in early and said it was fine, so give it a rest. TIA.

Or maybe it's just your misunderstanding of injuries? TIA.

No. Give it a rest. You folks that aren't talking about Browns injury and the Dolphins find another message board to argue on.J

 

[beavers]

A full ACL tear is when the ligament is completely torn. Athletes can play without ACL's (see Brian Westbrook and Heinz Ward). McGahee and Culpepper blew out every ligament in their knee (I believe it was MCL, PCL and ACL). Brown tore just his ACL which is a surgery he can easily recover from. This is coming from experience (ACL and Mensicus transplant recipient here).

On the other hand, a partial tear is a sprain. This usually requires rest depending on severity. Since RB is out for the year, it's no surprise that it is a full tear. Therefore, IMO, this did not need a new thread.

Why not change the title of this thread? http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=358053

because i wasn't the original poster and don't have the edit permissions to change someone else's posts. by the way people, I followed Joe's guidelines and even he chimed in early and said it was fine, so give it a rest. TIA.

Or maybe it's just your misunderstanding of injuries? TIA.

No. Give it a rest. You folks that aren't talking about Browns injury and the Dolphins find another message board to argue on.J

It was resting, but hey thanks for your expert clarification and your ability to keep it alive. In any event, here's to Ronnie getting healthy again.

 

[az_prof]

We already have how many threads on this? Granted, once you heard "out for the year" I can see a thread for that, but I dont see the need for a reply to that thread as its own thread.

"Full" tear being the important thing on this one. Lots of guys look past just this season.J

This is a big deal beyond this season.

I don't know what the evidence of this "being a big deal beyond this season." I have had a full tear and it requires surgery. Surgery requires approximately a year to recover. The good news is that it wasn't multiple ligaments, like Cpepps or Macalister's. If surgery goes well and he works hard at recovery there is no reason to think he can't be ready to go next fall; many players have done it in recent years. It is more likely that he fully recovers than that he doesn't IMO.

 

[Horses Mouth]

We already have how many threads on this? Granted, once you heard "out for the year" I can see a thread for that, but I dont see the need for a reply to that thread as its own thread.

"Full" tear being the important thing on this one. Lots of guys look past just this season.J

This is a big deal beyond this season.

I don't know what the evidence of this "being a big deal beyond this season." I have had a full tear and it requires surgery. Surgery requires approximately a year to recover. The good news is that it wasn't multiple ligaments, like Cpepps or Macalister's. If surgery goes well and he works hard at recovery there is no reason to think he can't be ready to go next fall; many players have done it in recent years. It is more likely that he fully recovers than that he doesn't IMO.

I have no reason to believe that RB will not work hard at his recovery. During Cam's presser he said that RB was already to get going with the surgery so he could start the rehab sooner than later.

 

[Bri]

Michael Turner.....

They aren't trading for MIchael Turner, are you kiddin! RB will rehab, he will have to work hard, but ACL tears happen every year and people come back from them all the time. He will be back in September and be starting for the Dolphins

Denial is not just reserved for head coaches, I guess.

Rightly or wrongly, teams do not go after high-priced FA RB's when their young studs tear their ACL's. Kevin Jones had a more serious injury last year and the Lions didn't go after anybody of note, and the Dolphins won't either. Even with the ACL tear, running back is not close to their biggest long-term need. I suspect that Brown will never be the same again (has any RB recovered 100% from an ACL tear?), but he will still be good.(Note: I'm not necessarily endorsing the claim that Brown will play in September).

Plenty of guys have.IIRC Jamal Lewis came back from two ACL tears if not 3Guys in this thread are acting like it's 1983 and Bernard King just got hurt. "Hello!"

 

[nflis4me]

And with the first pick of the 2008 NFL Draft (hosted overseas since we are sending everything else over there) the Miami Dolphins select...

Darren McFadden from the University of Arkansas.

 

[MCguidance]

ACL = frank gore

 

[Snotbubbles]

Michael Turner.....

They aren't trading for MIchael Turner, are you kiddin! RB will rehab, he will have to work hard, but ACL tears happen every year and people come back from them all the time. He will be back in September and be starting for the Dolphins

Denial is not just reserved for head coaches, I guess.

Rightly or wrongly, teams do not go after high-priced FA RB's when their young studs tear their ACL's. Kevin Jones had a more serious injury last year and the Lions didn't go after anybody of note, and the Dolphins won't either. Even with the ACL tear, running back is not close to their biggest long-term need. I suspect that Brown will never be the same again (has any RB recovered 100% from an ACL tear?), but he will still be good.(Note: I'm not necessarily endorsing the claim that Brown will play in September).

Brian Westbrook tore ACL's in both his knees and actually missed an entire season at Villanova from that.

 

[Snotbubbles]

We already have how many threads on this? Granted, once you heard "out for the year" I can see a thread for that, but I dont see the need for a reply to that thread as its own thread.

"Full" tear being the important thing on this one. Lots of guys look past just this season.J

This is a big deal beyond this season.

I don't know what the evidence of this "being a big deal beyond this season." I have had a full tear and it requires surgery. Surgery requires approximately a year to recover. The good news is that it wasn't multiple ligaments, like Cpepps or Macalister's. If surgery goes well and he works hard at recovery there is no reason to think he can't be ready to go next fall; many players have done it in recent years. It is more likely that he fully recovers than that he doesn't IMO.

Playing and being fully recovered are two different things. Edge played...but was he fully recovered?

 

[murzman]

Michael Turner.....

They aren't trading for MIchael Turner, are you kiddin! RB will rehab, he will have to work hard, but ACL tears happen every year and people come back from them all the time. He will be back in September and be starting for the Dolphins

MIA wouldn't be trading. Turner is an UFA next year and Cam is obviously VERY familiar with him from his San Diego days. Do I think it'll happen? It's a long shot, but you never know.

As a Turner owner I would hate for him to go to Miami. That would end up being a dynasty nightmare for Turner owners once Brown is back, and that will be next season.

No one cares about your team.... how's that for ACF police?

 

[a_rackowski]

There is no reason to expect that he wont be back. A partial tear would be a sprain I think.

As someone who has gone thru ACL reconstruction 3 times, I think a full tear is simply fixed by using a cadaver which is taken from a dead mans achillies tendon and proves to be stronger than ever.

I see no reason he wont return from this injury.

 

[redman]

Are there any updates to his condition? I thought I read somewhere that he was already running (which was astounding). True?