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That thread is the truth. And it’s exactly what the Democrats should be using as a strategy guide.
We have a recent example of a moderate trying to beat Trump based on policy, treating him with kid gloves. I've got no background or experience in this stuff, but the answer seems so obvious to me. He will get the same support, or even more than last time. Forget about his supporters, or any "undecideds" (for me, hard to fathom). All the democrats have to do is energize the public and get the vote out.
Yeah, Clinton had to treat him as normal because the Clintons and Trumps were friends. And she lost as a result.
Just remember when you lose in 2020...I gave you the keys to the kingdom.My advice to the liberals as an independent
1. Stop using the word “socialism”
2. Stop thinking of new ways to spend taxpayer money(free college)
3. Attack healthcare by cutting costs, not by declaring “healthcare is a right “
4. Apologize for Russian investigation and move on to something that matters
5. Distance the party from AOC and other wackjob taqueria waitresses with zero meaningful real life experiences
6. Understand that most Americans are not pleased with our current unbridled immigration policy
7. Stay away from supporting career politician candidates that are more interested in their careers than the American middle class
of course, the Democrats are incapable of most of these....just answering the question posed in the title.
Huge fan of Tim. I remember his essay / blog post that got him on the map after Columbine.
Sure, but they had a vision for the country and for their party. Now I know that vision was tempered by practicality, but I think that Is far different than the current state of affairs where there is no vision, no leadership, just a desire to respond to and to reflect polling data. Now of course as soon as I write this down I realize there are a few fringe candidates that want universal income or healthcare or free college to all, even those unable to address the rigors, but for the most part, from my perch, a perch I admit is not necessarily interested in advancing the democratic party, it seems there is no vision just a desire for power. It seems to me that the Dems do best when they have a vision, when they embrace rather aspirational goals, outcomes, and futures, when they inspire. That is what I was trying to convey, though I did it poorly. I was not trying to capture the best label within the party for them, but rather something about inspiring vision to seek to broaden party appeal which is, of course, always good electoral politics. To me it was about leadership, not grasping the reigns of power with no idea what to do once there.
Thoughtful, excellent post.
I suspect that is a winner, but then again I could not conceive of him winning last time, even appreciating the immense unlikeability factor of Hilary.
Problem is every time the Dems come up with a vision they can't implement it because the damn Republicans have bankrupted the economy and the Dems have to spend all their energy fixing the mess left behind.
Actually, think what you will of Trip, those are very good points, and not just because I tend to agree with them, but I think that most people do.Ramblin Wreck said:
1) Agree..However I think Fox News and the right use that as much as the left. to "Scare" votersMy advice to the liberals as an independent
1. Stop using the word “socialism”
2. Stop thinking of new ways to spend taxpayer money(free college)
3. Attack healthcare by cutting costs, not by declaring “healthcare is a right “
4. Apologize for Russian investigation and move on to something that matters
5. Distance the party from AOC and other wackjob taqueria waitresses with zero meaningful real life experiences
6. Understand that most Americans are not pleased with our current unbridled immigration policy
7. Stay away from supporting career politician candidates that are more interested in their careers than the American middle class
of course, the Democrats are incapable of most of these....just answering the question posed in the title.
This is an issue on both sides, but even more on the Republican side. When you've got Republicans voting lockstep to repeal net neutrality when almost every American, regardless of party affiliation, wanted to keep it, you've got a serious problem. These guys are all bought and paid for.
Have you read that peace by Tim Wise that MT posted? You should. I’m talking specifically about the disinterest for policy among those who will/might vote for Trump.
They will just be sick of it like with Hillary. Trump is an unsympathetic figure like she was.
For a counterpoint to that, you might check out the Peter Savodnik piece in Vanity Fair about the 2018 elections and Hollywood messaging I posted in Rock du Jour.
I believe Trump should be impeached, regardless of the consequences. But trying to predict those consequences is very difficult at this time.
What were the consequences of all the failed Hillary investigations?
So are democrats. To say it's more one sided than another shows your bias. Dont for a minute believe your beloved democratic reps wont sell you. And it's not a contest to see who is worse. But if that makes you feel better about it then run with it
The base will be energized. It's the independents in the "Blue Wall" states, IMHO.
Again, if this is your only yardstick for how politicians are only concerned about themselves and not the people, you win. Good job big fella
Dems care about the growing wealth inequality. It may be fair when one guy accumulates all the chips at a poker table but it's not good for the game. Quality of life is way down. Both parents have to work. Culture is dying because no one has the time nor money.
I’m confused, what about that video makes think this won’t be free? I’m gonna play along with this. Will these people be paying out of pocket?
Provide doesn't just equal free.
I love how you can’t even admit this was a ridiculous self inflicted wound (fatal imo) by Democrats. Tim even admits this.
I don’t think he ever admitted its any fatal mistake. Nor would an admission by someone else here really sway me.
What was implied was that everyone would be covered under the candidates health care plan.
Sho is the kinda guy that invites you out to dinner and looks your when the bill comes.
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