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Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread: Kings win 2nd Cup in 3 seasons (1 Viewer)

Milbury critical of Roy on pulling the goalie. Say thats maybe he should wait until 30 secs are left. Which is why he is on TV and not the Adams winning coach
Milbury is a moron. love how he coaches to win and the aggressiveness. he picks great spots to do it.

of course they did luck out that they don't give EJ a penalty for knocking the net off (or the scrum he created after) since they gave it to Koivu earlier in the game for the same momentum play. Cooke had the puck on the wall with the net open if he doesn't knock it off.

 
Bill Brasky said:
ffldrew said:
Milbury critical of Roy on pulling the goalie. Say thats maybe he should wait until 30 secs are left. Which is why he is on TV and not the Adams winning coach
Milbury is a moron. love how he coaches to win and the aggressiveness. he picks great spots to do it.

of course they did luck out that they don't give EJ a penalty for knocking the net off (or the scrum he created after) since they gave it to Koivu earlier in the game for the same momentum play. Cooke had the puck on the wall with the net open if he doesn't knock it off.
MacKinnon, Statsny and Landeskog were out there nearly the entire 3 minutes and put in a great effort of controlling the puck in the 6-5 - hard to believe that MacKinnon is only 18 and players are bouncing off him down low and he is beating good defensemen like Suter for the puck in scrums. Wait until he gets another 10-15lbs on him and proper strength conditioning from an NHL trainer vs Juniors to be combined with his speed. He is fantastic to watch. I was in front of the glass and he chipped a puck out of the zone off the glass at the defensive face off circle in front of us and in a blink off an eye he was down on top of Bryz with PA Parentau nearly scoring - going from a near standstill when he chipped it out.

 
Bill Brasky said:
ffldrew said:
Milbury critical of Roy on pulling the goalie. Say thats maybe he should wait until 30 secs are left. Which is why he is on TV and not the Adams winning coach
Milbury is a moron. love how he coaches to win and the aggressiveness. he picks great spots to do it.

of course they did luck out that they don't give EJ a penalty for knocking the net off (or the scrum he created after) since they gave it to Koivu earlier in the game for the same momentum play. Cooke had the puck on the wall with the net open if he doesn't knock it off.
MacKinnon, Statsny and Landeskog were out there nearly the entire 3 minutes and put in a great effort of controlling the puck in the 6-5 - hard to believe that MacKinnon is only 18 and players are bouncing off him down low and he is beating good defensemen like Suter for the puck in scrums. Wait until he gets another 10-15lbs on him and proper strength conditioning from an NHL trainer vs Juniors to be combined with his speed. He is fantastic to watch. I was in front of the glass and he chipped a puck out of the zone off the glass at the defensive face off circle in front of us and in a blink off an eye he was down on top of Bryz with PA Parentau nearly scoring - going from a near standstill when he chipped it out.
Mackinnon is a beast. 4 on 4 is a disaster for Minnesota without the puck and him on the ice, don't want anything to do with more time and space for him to wheel. Barrie was everywhere too, kid sure didn't look like he was playing hurt.

do you think Barrie should have been called for interference for wiping out Cooke and Brodziak on the winner? I could go either way on that, definitely could have been called though and created the goal leaving Stastny wide open.

 
Bill Brasky said:
ffldrew said:
Milbury critical of Roy on pulling the goalie. Say thats maybe he should wait until 30 secs are left. Which is why he is on TV and not the Adams winning coach
Milbury is a moron. love how he coaches to win and the aggressiveness. he picks great spots to do it.

of course they did luck out that they don't give EJ a penalty for knocking the net off (or the scrum he created after) since they gave it to Koivu earlier in the game for the same momentum play. Cooke had the puck on the wall with the net open if he doesn't knock it off.
MacKinnon, Statsny and Landeskog were out there nearly the entire 3 minutes and put in a great effort of controlling the puck in the 6-5 - hard to believe that MacKinnon is only 18 and players are bouncing off him down low and he is beating good defensemen like Suter for the puck in scrums. Wait until he gets another 10-15lbs on him and proper strength conditioning from an NHL trainer vs Juniors to be combined with his speed. He is fantastic to watch. I was in front of the glass and he chipped a puck out of the zone off the glass at the defensive face off circle in front of us and in a blink off an eye he was down on top of Bryz with PA Parentau nearly scoring - going from a near standstill when he chipped it out.
Mackinnon is a beast. 4 on 4 is a disaster for Minnesota without the puck and him on the ice, don't want anything to do with more time and space for him to wheel. Barrie was everywhere too, kid sure didn't look like he was playing hurt.

do you think Barrie should have been called for interference for wiping out Cooke and Brodziak on the winner? I could go either way on that, definitely could have been called though and created the goal leaving Stastny wide open.
I didn't get a great look as it happened - I was down at the other end and so the fishbowl effect from the glass made it hard to clearly see. Last night there were a bunch of incidents of interference both ways - and ironically the one they called on Hejda in the corner on Moulson(turned into a goal) had no business being called.(one of my favorites - ref in the neutral zone 100ft away calls the penalty - but the one in the corner where it happened isn't making the call) - they made up for it later with the Villeuax hooking(right in front of me and it was a BS call).

As for the Berrie play - he's going to goal and looking for the return pass not at hitting Cooke- could have called it on Cooke for knocking him down. It's the interference call - what are you going to do? Especially in a war during the playoffs. Cooke is an idiot and will never get a break - Wild would do good to get rid of him - Clutterbuck was so much better in the pest department - Cooke will cost them games.

 
Metropolitan

M1 Pittsburgh vs W1 Columbus ; 4-3
You really think the Blue Jackets are going to force a 7th game?
Great goaltending wins playoff games.
Didn't Quick just take the Kings to the cup as an 8 seed? Didn't a goalie in Edmonton do it back in in the late 90's or early 2000's? The Ducks made a run to the finals as an 8 seed as well with a hot goalie didn't they?
Rollie the Goalie and Edmonton were an 8 seed. No 6th or 7th seed has ever won the cup btw. Kings are the only #8.
Yeah and Rollie got injured in the first game of the SCF and the Oilers lost to Carolina in 7 games. :kicksrock:
 
Berrie looked like he took out both players on purpose. Notice how he just laid there for a second after taking out the 2nd guy, likely trying to give the illusion that it was an accidental collision and that he was dazed from it, and then as soon as the goal was scored, he leapt to his feet like he got shot out of a canon. Smart play, but definitely interference, and one they aren't likely to call in that scenario.

 
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Berrie looked like he took out both players on purpose. Notice how he just laid there for a second after taking out the 2nd guy, likely trying to give the illusion that it was an accidental collision and that he was dazed from it, and then as soon as the goal was scored, he leapt to his feet like he got shot out of a canon. Smart play, but definitely interference, and one they aren't likely to call in that scenario.
Doesn't matter how he got up. Look at his head/eyes after he passes to Mac - he's going to the front and watching Mac the entire time and want the return pass. Cooke even curves over into the spot that Berrie is going to as his head is down and they collide - good no call to me.

 
I might believe that if he didn't immediately take out a 2nd guy as well. But hey, smart play, since he puts the impetus on the refs to make the call, they didn't, and his play helped lead to the winning goal.

 
Bill Brasky said:
I'd like to know what the Avs' goal differential is with the goalie pulled. Has to be positive. Ridiculous
:X Wild killed themselves. awful turnovers everywhere. Brodziak's turnover was the backbreaker.

Avs had a nice game plan to be physical and really targeted Granlund and Brodin, but once they settled in the Wild were able to fire back with their own physical play and really controlled the 5 on 5 forecheck which created 2 of the goals.

oh well. missed opportunity but this is their series if they stay out of the box and stay away from 4 on 4.
Bryz played like crap in Game 1. Any update on when Kuemper might return to the lineup? All I've heard is he has a lower body injury.
 
I might believe that if he didn't immediately take out a 2nd guy as well. But hey, smart play, since he puts the impetus on the refs to make the call, they didn't, and his play helped lead to the winning goal.
The collision with Cooke knocked him down and over into the legs of the other guy and he's practically turtleing when he hits him- if Cooke lets him through he's not taking the other guy out.

 
Bill Brasky said:
ffldrew said:
Milbury critical of Roy on pulling the goalie. Say thats maybe he should wait until 30 secs are left. Which is why he is on TV and not the Adams winning coach
Milbury is a moron. love how he coaches to win and the aggressiveness. he picks great spots to do it.of course they did luck out that they don't give EJ a penalty for knocking the net off (or the scrum he created after) since they gave it to Koivu earlier in the game for the same momentum play. Cooke had the puck on the wall with the net open if he doesn't knock it off.
MacKinnon, Statsny and Landeskog were out there nearly the entire 3 minutes and put in a great effort of controlling the puck in the 6-5 - hard to believe that MacKinnon is only 18 and players are bouncing off him down low and he is beating good defensemen like Suter for the puck in scrums. Wait until he gets another 10-15lbs on him and proper strength conditioning from an NHL trainer vs Juniors to be combined with his speed. He is fantastic to watch. I was in front of the glass and he chipped a puck out of the zone off the glass at the defensive face off circle in front of us and in a blink off an eye he was down on top of Bryz with PA Parentau nearly scoring - going from a near standstill when he chipped it out.
Mackinnon is a beast. 4 on 4 is a disaster for Minnesota without the puck and him on the ice, don't want anything to do with more time and space for him to wheel. Barrie was everywhere too, kid sure didn't look like he was playing hurt.do you think Barrie should have been called for interference for wiping out Cooke and Brodziak on the winner? I could go either way on that, definitely could have been called though and created the goal leaving Stastny wide open.
I didn't get a great look as it happened - I was down at the other end and so the fishbowl effect from the glass made it hard to clearly see. Last night there were a bunch of incidents of interference both ways - and ironically the one they called on Hejda in the corner on Moulson(turned into a goal) had no business being called.(one of my favorites - ref in the neutral zone 100ft away calls the penalty - but the one in the corner where it happened isn't making the call) - they made up for it later with the Villeuax hooking(right in front of me and it was a BS call).

As for the Berrie play - he's going to goal and looking for the return pass not at hitting Cooke- could have called it on Cooke for knocking him down. It's the interference call - what are you going to do? Especially in a war during the playoffs. Cooke is an idiot and will never get a break - Wild would do good to get rid of him - Clutterbuck was so much better in the pest department - Cooke will cost them games.
yeah, several weird calls in that game...off the top of my head Hejda and Veilleux calls were weak, Parise goalie interference was wrong call, missed a blatant too many men on the Wild. that stuff evens out though. only one that did bother me is not giving EJ delay of game on the empty net play. if they're going to make that call on Koivu earlier in the game, they have to do it there. pretty obvious spot to be consistent. both are making plays, both had momentum carry them into the net, and both prevented a scoring chance. then EJ loses it again and somehow they move the faceoff outside the zone presumably because the Wild D jumped into the scrum, but because the scrum was above the dots that shouldn't apply (I believe). Edit: forgot that they can't call a penalty for this with the goalie pulled anyway, would be automatically awarded a goal. And obviously they aren't going to do that in that situation. Just an unfortunate circumstance for the Wild there I guess given the similar play went against them on a judgement call earlier.

on the Barrie play, he took Cooke and Brodziak out from behind, both were facing the puck behind the net. I honestly think he just lost his edge though. kind of a freak play, I can see it being called but I don't think it was a big deal that it wasn't.

agree that Cooke never will get a break, but I disagree that he costs them because he is a productive player. and frankly, he really has reformed his game to take the cheapshots out which was evident towards the tail end of his Pittsburgh career. maybe a couple questionable hits here and there, but never targeting the head and always shoulder. he'll always be jawing, but I don't see anything wrong with that. Clutterbuck is a better hitter, Cooke is a much better player. very good defensively, great stick.

 
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For all of those following the Wild-Avs series (maybe the 5 or 6 here)

Michael Russo ?@Russostrib 27m
Erik Haula centering Matt Cooke and Nino Niederreiter. Brodziak to fourth line with Veilleux and McCormick. #mnwild


Looks like that gift pass by Brodziak to O'Reilly is going to hurt him.
 
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Berrie looked like he took out both players on purpose. Notice how he just laid there for a second after taking out the 2nd guy, likely trying to give the illusion that it was an accidental collision and that he was dazed from it, and then as soon as the goal was scored, he leapt to his feet like he got shot out of a canon. Smart play, but definitely interference, and one they aren't likely to call in that scenario.
agree that it did look that way, but I give him the benefit of doubt on looking dazed. guy is playing hurt (from all indications). an OT winner will snap anyone into a frenzy.

 
For all of those following the Wild-Avs series (maybe the 5 or 6 here)

Michael Russo ?@Russostrib 27m
Erik Haula centering Matt Cooke and Nino Niederreiter. Brodziak to fourth line with Veilleux and McCormick. #mnwild


Looks like that gift pass by Brodziak to O'Reilly is going to hurt him.
Haula deserves the extra ice. guy has been solid since the Granlund injury, really stepped up nice in that 2nd line spot. and last night he played his checking role well and scored that beauty. guy has a lot of speed, probably the only guy on roster that can go stride for stride with Mackinnon. Brodziak has been a disaster for much of the year. even when he's doing things right he can never finish the countless opportunities he gets (save last nights goal). as long as Heatley doesn't get back in the lineup I'm fine with any shuffling.

 
on the Barrie play, he took Cooke and Brodziak out from behind, both were facing the puck behind the net. I honestly think he just lost his edge though. kind of a freak play, I can see it being called but I don't think it was a big deal that it wasn't.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=2013030151-779-h

Looks like Cooke is behind him here coming in from the point and at around the :14 second mark Cooke hits Barrie from behind as he cuts sharp to the near post - Cooke comes from the Center of the faceoff circles over to contact Barrie - like the Zapruder film - from behind and to the left

I guess I remember Clutterbuck as an Avs killer - like Franzen and Hall and Nugent-Hopkins and Pavelski. Guys just tear us apart. Cooke is just a yapping cheapshot artist - but I only pay attention to him when he pulls that crap I guess and never really watch his overall game.

 
Bill Brasky said:
I'd like to know what the Avs' goal differential is with the goalie pulled. Has to be positive. Ridiculous
:X Wild killed themselves. awful turnovers everywhere. Brodziak's turnover was the backbreaker.

Avs had a nice game plan to be physical and really targeted Granlund and Brodin, but once they settled in the Wild were able to fire back with their own physical play and really controlled the 5 on 5 forecheck which created 2 of the goals.

oh well. missed opportunity but this is their series if they stay out of the box and stay away from 4 on 4.
Bryz played like crap in Game 1. Any update on when Kuemper might return to the lineup? All I've heard is he has a lower body injury.
Bryz was fine last night. he made a few tough stops and got the ones he should stop. every goal scored on him last night was a great chance off a defensive breakdown or sloppy turnover. that game is on Brodziak IMO, plain and simple. they are in total control until he just hands it to O'Reilly with 12 min left and he was a -3 in a checking role...and he had a 5 on 5 goal in the game. to a lesser extent the Scandella/Brodin pairing who had two costly blunders/got beat and Spurgeon who had an awful turnover with about 40 seconds left that led to the tying goal.

Kuemper is supposed to be close. will probably be backing up by G3.

 
That was an awesome possession leading to the goal. Great cycle work all around. The Rags did that all night to the Flyers. :(

I thought it was incidental contact on both, as was said Barrie is looking for the return pass and Cooke also seemed to be focused on the puck. Just two guys colliding with an (un)fortunate outcome. Was focused in on Chi/StL but I need to watch a full game of those kids. Man they're fun to watch.

 
That was an awesome possession leading to the goal. Great cycle work all around. The Rags did that all night to the Flyers. :(

I thought it was incidental contact on both, as was said Barrie is looking for the return pass and Cooke also seemed to be focused on the puck. Just two guys colliding with an (un)fortunate outcome. Was focused in on Chi/StL but I need to watch a full game of those kids. Man they're fun to watch.
Pominville was stuck out there gassed on like a 2 min shift and Barrie just walked him at the blue line. up to that point the Wild hadn't really had the puck in their zone at all in OT and Pominville almost ended it early with a sharp angle shot off the pipe.

 
Bill Brasky said:
I'd like to know what the Avs' goal differential is with the goalie pulled. Has to be positive. Ridiculous
:X Wild killed themselves. awful turnovers everywhere. Brodziak's turnover was the backbreaker.

Avs had a nice game plan to be physical and really targeted Granlund and Brodin, but once they settled in the Wild were able to fire back with their own physical play and really controlled the 5 on 5 forecheck which created 2 of the goals.

oh well. missed opportunity but this is their series if they stay out of the box and stay away from 4 on 4.
Bryz played like crap in Game 1. Any update on when Kuemper might return to the lineup? All I've heard is he has a lower body injury.
Bryz was fine last night. he made a few tough stops and got the ones he should stop. every goal scored on him last night was a great chance off a defensive breakdown or sloppy turnover. that game is on Brodziak IMO, plain and simple. they are in total control until he just hands it to O'Reilly with 12 min left and he was a -3 in a checking role...and he had a 5 on 5 goal in the game. to a lesser extent the Scandella/Brodin pairing who had two costly blunders/got beat and Spurgeon who had an awful turnover with about 40 seconds left that led to the tying goal. Kuemper is supposed to be close. will probably be backing up by G3.
Guess I 'm just biased against Bryzgalov. I wasn't sad when the Oilers dealt him to the Wild.
 
Bill Brasky said:
I'd like to know what the Avs' goal differential is with the goalie pulled. Has to be positive. Ridiculous
:X Wild killed themselves. awful turnovers everywhere. Brodziak's turnover was the backbreaker.

Avs had a nice game plan to be physical and really targeted Granlund and Brodin, but once they settled in the Wild were able to fire back with their own physical play and really controlled the 5 on 5 forecheck which created 2 of the goals.

oh well. missed opportunity but this is their series if they stay out of the box and stay away from 4 on 4.
Bryz played like crap in Game 1. Any update on when Kuemper might return to the lineup? All I've heard is he has a lower body injury.
Bryz was fine last night. he made a few tough stops and got the ones he should stop. every goal scored on him last night was a great chance off a defensive breakdown or sloppy turnover. that game is on Brodziak IMO, plain and simple. they are in total control until he just hands it to O'Reilly with 12 min left and he was a -3 in a checking role...and he had a 5 on 5 goal in the game. to a lesser extent the Scandella/Brodin pairing who had two costly blunders/got beat and Spurgeon who had an awful turnover with about 40 seconds left that led to the tying goal. Kuemper is supposed to be close. will probably be backing up by G3.
Guess I 'm just biased against Bryzgalov. I wasn't sad when the Oilers dealt him to the Wild.
he's not a great goalie. he's an average positional butterfly goaltender with limited athleticism. pretty similar to Backstrom but a little younger. he's had a good run here but he isn't asked to do a lot and he isn't asked to win the game himself. he was good enough to win last night. he did his job, other guys didn't.

 
Bill Brasky said:
I'd like to know what the Avs' goal differential is with the goalie pulled. Has to be positive. Ridiculous
:X Wild killed themselves. awful turnovers everywhere. Brodziak's turnover was the backbreaker.

Avs had a nice game plan to be physical and really targeted Granlund and Brodin, but once they settled in the Wild were able to fire back with their own physical play and really controlled the 5 on 5 forecheck which created 2 of the goals.

oh well. missed opportunity but this is their series if they stay out of the box and stay away from 4 on 4.
Bryz played like crap in Game 1. Any update on when Kuemper might return to the lineup? All I've heard is he has a lower body injury.
Bryz was fine last night. he made a few tough stops and got the ones he should stop. every goal scored on him last night was a great chance off a defensive breakdown or sloppy turnover. that game is on Brodziak IMO, plain and simple. they are in total control until he just hands it to O'Reilly with 12 min left and he was a -3 in a checking role...and he had a 5 on 5 goal in the game. to a lesser extent the Scandella/Brodin pairing who had two costly blunders/got beat and Spurgeon who had an awful turnover with about 40 seconds left that led to the tying goal. Kuemper is supposed to be close. will probably be backing up by G3.
Guess I 'm just biased against Bryzgalov. I wasn't sad when the Oilers dealt him to the Wild.
he's not a great goalie. he's an average positional butterfly goaltender with limited athleticism. pretty similar to Backstrom but a little younger. he's had a good run here but he isn't asked to do a lot and he isn't asked to win the game himself. he was good enough to win last night. he did his job, other guys didn't.
It isn't his athletic ability I disliked, it was his attitude. He used to consistently show up his teammates when he'd get scored on. The Oilers D was a train-wreck all season and Bryz was the only goalie that acted this way.

 
Bill Brasky said:
I'd like to know what the Avs' goal differential is with the goalie pulled. Has to be positive. Ridiculous
:X Wild killed themselves. awful turnovers everywhere. Brodziak's turnover was the backbreaker.

Avs had a nice game plan to be physical and really targeted Granlund and Brodin, but once they settled in the Wild were able to fire back with their own physical play and really controlled the 5 on 5 forecheck which created 2 of the goals.

oh well. missed opportunity but this is their series if they stay out of the box and stay away from 4 on 4.
Bryz played like crap in Game 1. Any update on when Kuemper might return to the lineup? All I've heard is he has a lower body injury.
Bryz was fine last night. he made a few tough stops and got the ones he should stop. every goal scored on him last night was a great chance off a defensive breakdown or sloppy turnover. that game is on Brodziak IMO, plain and simple. they are in total control until he just hands it to O'Reilly with 12 min left and he was a -3 in a checking role...and he had a 5 on 5 goal in the game. to a lesser extent the Scandella/Brodin pairing who had two costly blunders/got beat and Spurgeon who had an awful turnover with about 40 seconds left that led to the tying goal. Kuemper is supposed to be close. will probably be backing up by G3.
Guess I 'm just biased against Bryzgalov. I wasn't sad when the Oilers dealt him to the Wild.
he's not a great goalie. he's an average positional butterfly goaltender with limited athleticism. pretty similar to Backstrom but a little younger. he's had a good run here but he isn't asked to do a lot and he isn't asked to win the game himself. he was good enough to win last night. he did his job, other guys didn't.
It isn't his athletic ability I disliked, it was his attitude. He used to consistently show up his teammates when he'd get scored on.The Oilers D was a train-wreck all season and Bryz was the only goalie that acted this way.
I get that. I remember when he did the stick flip after the goal early in the year. was pretty embarrassing. other than pissing off media members here though he's been pretty well received by the team from what I've read. he was even involved with the captains meeting after they got destroyed by the Blues a few weeks ago and desperately needed to start playing better. kind of seen as taking a leadership role, which surprised me. we'll see where it goes because he's obviously capable of melting down at any moment, but so far so good.

plus I love the overconfident cocky taunting attitude like he had in Winnipeg. :lmao:

 
Dickie Dunn said:
Meanwhile, as no one pays attention, the Sharks are doing terrible things to the Kings.

:shark:
It was me. Kings fans had their chance. I was pretty clear in the fantasy pool thread I'd take payola to avoid jinxing someone's team.No on took me up on it.

:shrug:

 
Dickie Dunn said:
Meanwhile, as no one pays attention, the Sharks are doing terrible things to the Kings.

:shark:
It was me. Kings fans had their chance. I was pretty clear in the fantasy pool thread I'd take payola to avoid jinxing someone's team.No on took me up on it.

:shrug:
Bucky will be here soon - if soon means the Kings are 10 minutes from winning the series

 
Dickie Dunn said:
Meanwhile, as no one pays attention, the Sharks are doing terrible things to the Kings.

:shark:
It was me. Kings fans had their chance. I was pretty clear in the fantasy pool thread I'd take payola to avoid jinxing someone's team.No on took me up on it.

:shrug:
I took five Sharks, so I'm certainly not complaining.

 
Great game last night. Hopefully Oshie will be back tomorrow. Miller was fantastic. One bad goal in the first, two he didn't have a chance on. Can't complain about that.

Ott was average, at best, since he came here, and I shook my head when I saw he was playing on the first line but he was great last night. The trade definitely paid dividends in its first real test. Even Lapierre was great last night - probably his best game as a Blue.

Tarasenko makes much more of a difference for this team than I ever realized. I was surprised to see he was 10th on that Corsi list someone posted (Rud? BB?) but I think there's definitely something to that stat.

Still, the Blackhawks are just so loaded. I hope we can keep up with their scoring. Schwartz and Tarasenko need to keep it up.

I love playoff hockey.

 
Montreal has just whooped the Lightning 6 periods straight now. Damn.
They were a team that got better and better as the year progressed, team I saw in December looked like Edmonton. Team I saw in March looked like a contender, they have a deep team and great goaltending.

 
Stamkos gets credit for being probably the best pure gola scorer in the game, but he's pretty adept at puck possession and he has some slick moves. Big fan.

 

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