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I disagree. It was good and it's the only time in the entire group of abortions where it's actual people fighting actual people that isn't completely dependent on CGI (like the Anakin-Obi Wan farce on lava islands). Clearly though, maul was the best fighter in the whole series.
That much is obvious since he was basically a stunt man given a role with 1 line. What fight is better though out of the 6 films?
Luke vs Vader in Jedi and Empire were both better.
I felt Empire was better than Jedi. Both were more driven by the power of the story than the intensity or technical work of the fight though. To me the Obiwan-Maul fight was the most intense and technical one on one battle in all 6 films. It's my favorite by far.
I don't consider the better movie fight to be the one that's the most technically advanced. But I'll change my stance and say the Maul fight is better than a lot of the Ewok stuff. But the Ewok stuff is light years better than the JarJar bouncy ball crap.
I'd agree with that. The thing is it wasn't needed at all. The gungan army compared to the Ewoks might as well have been US marines compared to some ancient tribal clansman with spears. The Gungan army could hold their own way longer in a battle than the Ewoks ever should have. Yet the Gungans still lost and the Ewoks somehow won. Both scenarios are just plain ridiculous.
The Gungan's were not meant to win. Their entire strategy was to create a long diversion. If you digitally remove Jar Jar from that battle, it is not awful. Jar Jar just makes it unwatchable. The Ewoks entire strategy was to take a big steaming dump on the storm troopers, making them out to be the most abysmal fighters in history. Just awful what Lucas did in that movie so that he could sell teddy bears.
You mean the Storm Troopers that couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and whose armor couldn't absorb any damage whatsoever from a blaster? Can't aim and go down with one hit no matter where it is? Pretty much ruined long before Jedi.
It went from not being able to absorb a blaster to not being able to absorb twig arrows. :(
Poor guy even had his voice dubbed for his one line.
Obi Wan-Qui Gon/ Maul was the most entertaining fight. It's a 45-38 football game with Special Teams and Defensive scores and all that ####....Luke/Vader I was the best fight. It was akin to a scrappy 15 or 16 seed taking the number 1 or 2 to the buzzer in the NCAA tournamnet. You're a kid watching this one and you're like "there's a chance".
Who's the bigger nerd...the nerd or the nerd who lurks the nerds?####in nerds
I liked Star Wars so was checking in on the thread. The arguments in here have gotten quite nerdy. You disagree?Who's the bigger nerd...the nerd or the nerd who lurks the nerds?
LOL!....No. But it's Star Wars. One can't get nerdy enough........just don't like younger women know about it.I liked Star Wars so was checking in on the thread. The arguments in here have gotten quite nerdy. You disagree?Who's the bigger nerd...the nerd or the nerd who lurks the nerds?
Hey hey........HEY !! Those blast marks were far too accurate for sand people, only Imperial Stormtroopers are that precise.
LOL
I think it's just kind of weird that the same guy is doing Star Trek and Star Wars. I think there are going to be some creative issues when they are so close to each other in basic theme/genre. They may end up looking/feeling too similar, he may have an idea for one, but use it in the other, or try to hold back and differentiate on purpose to the detriment of the film etc. I think competition is better for the audiences of both franchises.
by a long shot
I like Abrams. What concerns me though is the consolidation of visions we are seeing in Hollywood. One guy directs multiple major cultural touchstones. Abrams has Star Trek and Star Wars. Joss Whedon has Avengers and presumably several others coming if rumors are to be believed. Again I like both these guys but maybe someone else has something interesting to say.
Lucas had 30 years to say it....but I get what you're saying as Disney is now pretty much in charge of just about every influential entertainment endeavor of my childhood (LucasArts, Henson, Marvel and Disney itself).....only the Krofft Brothers and DC Comics stand alone.
That's where i am. At least he isn't writing it, so we don't have to worry about the Lost effect or time travel. KEEP DAMON LIDELOF AWAY FROM ANY RE-WRITES!!!
Yep. It leads to homogenization and a lack of risk taking. Kind of like where we find terrestrial radio these days, in the hands of a few and vanilla all over.
I don't have this worry at all. Personally outside of both being set in space, the two vehicles could not be more different thematically.Star Trek is based on science, and acts as more of a pure Sci Fi show.Star Wars is based on magic, and as such acts much closer to fantasy.Star Wars is much closer thematically to stories like The Searchers, the Hidden Forrest and Lord of the Rings than Star Trek IMO.People get to caught up in the fact that Star Wars in a space based show and automatically think it must be hard sci fi but it isn't really. Much like Firefly was significantly more of a Western than Sci Fi but people always think SciFi just because it is set in space.
Apparently that one crack commando unit of Storm Troopers that raided the Landcrawler got stuck on Tatooine and didn't make an appearance for the rest of the trilogy. The rest of the can't shoot for ####.
at too nerdy. It's freaking Star Wars!!!! That's like saying math is too nerdy.
Ewoks, Jar Jar, & Jake Lloyd. I might be ok with playing it safe in the Star Wars universe for a few movies.
Those weren't risks they were marketing decisions. Well Ewoks and Jar Jar certainly not sure about the kid. Oh and apparently I am the only one here who enjoyed the Teddy Bear Apocalypse but still they were there to sell toys. And those kinds of decisions won't be taken out of the equation they will become more prominent IMO.
I didn't have a problem with it, but then again I was 9. Leia in the gold bikini had no (conscious) effect, but I was obsessed with finding Gamorrean Guard action figures. Kids are dumb.
It used to be based on magic until some deluded moron changed it.
I liked it when I was a kid, and still smile today as an adult when seeing them. I just don't like the hypocrisy some fans exhibit when complaining about the prequels and not realizing that the identical things they complain about exist in ROTJ. ROTJ always gets a pass I think because people still view it though their eyes as a kid.
Midi-chlorian was not his finest moment as a creator
i love the ewoksuntil someone starts complaiing about the new trilogy, where i have to point out the ludicrous nature of 90% of Jedi.If you apply the same eye to Jedi as people apply to the new trilogy the movie sucks ###. If you apply the "star wars is cool i love lasers and lightsabers" eye then Jedi rulesbut so does the new trilogy
I never had a big problem with the Ewoks. I had a harder time with the Death Star. On the one hand, why wouldn't they build another one after the rebels destroyed the first one? Seems like a no brainer (but improve the design so the thing doesn't blow up when someone shoots a torpedo down the exhaust port). On the other hand, did we really need another story about a group of rebels trying to blow up a death star? Aren't there, like, unlimited stories out there and Lucas decided to go with the same thing he just did two movies prior? zzz...
Maybe we will be transported back to a world where Episodes 1-3 never happened.
Maybe we will be transported back to a world where Episodes 1-3 never happened.
I always loved that they set the stage in the beginning of A New Hope that the stormtroopers were these ultra-precise killing machines and then the next thing you know, you have Leia, Luke, Chewy, and Han in a 5' wide hallway in the detention unit and 20 stormtroopers can't even graze one of them. They were about as accurate as the guy in the bathroom with the "hand cannon" in Pulp Fiction.Apparently that one crack commando unit of Storm Troopers that raided the Landcrawler got stuck on Tatooine and didn't make an appearance for the rest of the trilogy. The rest of the can't shoot for ####.
the entire premise of the original trilogy is based on storm troopers being completely and utterly uselessif they have any skill at all ANY skill, the rebellion is crushed.I always loved that they set the stage in the beginning of A New Hope that the stormtroopers were these ultra-precise killing machines and then the next thing you know, you have Leia, Luke, Chewy, and Han in a 5' wide hallway in the detention unit and 20 stormtroopers can't even graze one of them. They were about as accurate as the guy in the bathroom with the "hand cannon" in Pulp Fiction.Apparently that one crack commando unit of Storm Troopers that raided the Landcrawler got stuck on Tatooine and didn't make an appearance for the rest of the trilogy. The rest of the can't shoot for ####.
Stormtroopers = Red-shirted "security" on the Enterprisethe entire premise of the original trilogy is based on storm troopers being completely and utterly uselessif they have any skill at all ANY skill, the rebellion is crushed.I always loved that they set the stage in the beginning of A New Hope that the stormtroopers were these ultra-precise killing machines and then the next thing you know, you have Leia, Luke, Chewy, and Han in a 5' wide hallway in the detention unit and 20 stormtroopers can't even graze one of them. They were about as accurate as the guy in the bathroom with the "hand cannon" in Pulp Fiction.Apparently that one crack commando unit of Storm Troopers that raided the Landcrawler got stuck on Tatooine and didn't make an appearance for the rest of the trilogy. The rest of the can't shoot for ####.
