STAR WARS: Episode 7 (All-Time #1 opening box office.) (1 Viewer)

[The Flying Elvis]

http://www.vulture.com/2012/11/star-wars-episode-vii-may-have-found-its-writer.html?mid=twitter_vulture

Writer for Star Wars found?

Informed sources tell Vulture that Star Wars: Episode VII has found a leading candidate to write the film’s screenplay: Michael Arndt, the Pixar favorite who was nominated for an Oscar for Toy Story 3, won an Oscar for Little Miss Sunshine, and wrote The Hunger Games: Catching Fire, which is currently shooting. Insiders confirm that Arndt has written a 40- to 50-page treatment for the film and is likely to be at least one of the writers when the Disney/Lucasfilm project begins shooting in 2014.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Have you guys seen this?

http://www.starwarsuncut.com/

It's awesome.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

It's official. Michael Ardnt is the writer.

http://starwars.com/news/michael-arndt-to-write-screenplay-for-star-wars-episode-vii.html

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Also, apparently it likely will take place 20 years after rotj if all the main players will come back (and Hamill, ford and Carrie all seem to say they would if script is right). So, then how do they fill in what's happened in between?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This has got disaster written all over it. Harrison Ford wants to reprise his role as Han Solo...in other news Ford also is interested in doing Air Force One 2, Witness 2, and Blade Runner 2. Of course he would want to make another Star Wars. I hope they get all new characters within the Empire and Rebellion.

Vader is dead, where are they gonna drum up another bad guy that will have any screen presence?

 

[Eviloutsider]

This has got disaster written all over it. Harrison Ford wants to reprise his role as Han Solo...in other news Ford also is interested in doing Air Force One 2, Witness 2, and Blade Runner 2. Of course he would want to make another Star Wars. I hope they get all new characters within the Empire and Rebellion. Vader is dead, where are they gonna drum up another bad guy that will have any screen presence?

They did with Darth Maul.

 

[Hastur]

Vader is dead, where are they gonna drum up another bad guy that will have any screen presence?

The comic books and novels of the last 30 years answer that question, once put together with the information above.

 

[bigbottom]

Also, apparently it likely will take place 20 years after rotj if all the main players will come back (and Hamill, ford and Carrie all seem to say they would if script is right). So, then how do they fill in what's happened in between?

Oh, hell no.

 

[AAABatteries]

This is pretty exciting. So lets lay out the scenarios for possibilities for Star Wars 7:

1. Remake of first trilogy: -- I've actually seen people that want this. I don't think there is any way it happens. Regardless of how good or bad those movies were (and we had a lot of debate on 2 and 3 last night in the other thread) I don't think Disney is going to sink hundred of millions of dollars in the story of Anakin Skywalker again. However, IF they got a great Anakin. IF they got a GREAT script, cast, director, etc.....A re-make of the first three movies would bring back loads of fans that felt alienated from Lucas' new trilogy. It would be a huge risk though, because if it failed, I think the Star Wars franchise would be seen as a joke from here on out. Also, I'm sure Lucas would fight this with all he has, and he still is serving as a Creative consultant. Probability on this one: 1/10

2. "Vader" movie that takes place in between first two trilogies: I personally think this is a no-brainer. If I'm sitting at the head of Lucas Films today and trying to convince Disney execs which direction I want to take, this is my suggestions. Why? A few reasons: Vader is the most popular villain of all-time. As a poster in the other thread stated, Vader stuff is all over their theme parks. James Earl Jones is still alive! There is a huge story that hasn't been told yet. The story of Vader mowing down all the Jedi. Another reason this movie makes the most sense: A great script could be written fairly easy. However, can the same be said about "post-ROTJ" movies? There are a ton of complications to making "post-ROTJ" movies, which I'll get into in the next portion. I think that the first film Disney does needs be an absolute home run. Basically if I'm Disney, I hand this movie over to Christopher Nolan, and say : give us Dark Knight 2.0 in the Star Wars Universe with Vader as the centerpiece. It would be unbelievable and make more money than probably any Star Wars film out there. Probability on this one: 3/10. As "slam-dunk" as it sounds, I just have no confidence that it will actually happen.

3. "Post-ROTJ" era film: In all likelihood this is where it's going from what I've read. The Zahn books are big fan favorites and could be used. New material could be written. I know Star Wars nerds claim that the years immediately after ROTJ have all been accounted for in fan fiction, but this just isn't the case. Disney can create an entire new history, though I imagine they would use some of the popular characters in fan fiction as they do in the comic books with Marvel. The opportunities are endless here, and Disney has the opportunity to create new characters, which means lots of new money. A new Star Wars villain, new heroes, anything can happen. But with "new" comes unbelievable risk. Disney has already committed to 2015, which means a general script is going to have to come forward pretty soon. I feel that they would be better off using my option 2, and taking some time to make sure that they get the post-ROTJ time period right. Once they've re-launched the excitement with an unbelievable "Vader" film, then they sell them on the new characters/world. If their first film is after ROTJ and it fails....Disney will be in trouble. The last thing we need here is a "setup" film. You know, a film that just sets up the rest of the series, explaining what has happened, the state of the universe, and acting as a gateway to the future. We need an impact film first, to re-create the enthusiasm. Also, you have the immense problem of Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia. The old actors are going to be bombarded with fans wondering if they are reprising their roles. But face it, they are old and done for, aside from perhaps Harrison Ford. If you think fans were outraged at casting choices for Anakin and for things they saw in the new trilogy, wait until you see how they react to a "new" Han Solo. Probability on this one: 6/10. I feel this is where it's headed. Until I see the movie I'll be nervous if this is announced. Star Wars without Anakin/Darth Vader is going to be tough to sell. It's going to require great casting, great storylines and there are many challenges. In my opinion they are challenges that would be best served by thinking about them for a year or two, instead of rushing to film with a new cast of characters.

I think you forgot option 4 - ROTJ was all a dream!!!! Vader is still alive!!!!!

 

[shader]

This is pretty exciting. So lets lay out the scenarios for possibilities for Star Wars 7:

1. Remake of first trilogy: -- I've actually seen people that want this. I don't think there is any way it happens. Regardless of how good or bad those movies were (and we had a lot of debate on 2 and 3 last night in the other thread) I don't think Disney is going to sink hundred of millions of dollars in the story of Anakin Skywalker again. However, IF they got a great Anakin. IF they got a GREAT script, cast, director, etc.....A re-make of the first three movies would bring back loads of fans that felt alienated from Lucas' new trilogy. It would be a huge risk though, because if it failed, I think the Star Wars franchise would be seen as a joke from here on out. Also, I'm sure Lucas would fight this with all he has, and he still is serving as a Creative consultant. Probability on this one: 1/10

2. "Vader" movie that takes place in between first two trilogies: I personally think this is a no-brainer. If I'm sitting at the head of Lucas Films today and trying to convince Disney execs which direction I want to take, this is my suggestions. Why? A few reasons: Vader is the most popular villain of all-time. As a poster in the other thread stated, Vader stuff is all over their theme parks. James Earl Jones is still alive! There is a huge story that hasn't been told yet. The story of Vader mowing down all the Jedi. Another reason this movie makes the most sense: A great script could be written fairly easy. However, can the same be said about "post-ROTJ" movies? There are a ton of complications to making "post-ROTJ" movies, which I'll get into in the next portion. I think that the first film Disney does needs be an absolute home run. Basically if I'm Disney, I hand this movie over to Christopher Nolan, and say : give us Dark Knight 2.0 in the Star Wars Universe with Vader as the centerpiece. It would be unbelievable and make more money than probably any Star Wars film out there. Probability on this one: 3/10. As "slam-dunk" as it sounds, I just have no confidence that it will actually happen.

3. "Post-ROTJ" era film: In all likelihood this is where it's going from what I've read. The Zahn books are big fan favorites and could be used. New material could be written. I know Star Wars nerds claim that the years immediately after ROTJ have all been accounted for in fan fiction, but this just isn't the case. Disney can create an entire new history, though I imagine they would use some of the popular characters in fan fiction as they do in the comic books with Marvel. The opportunities are endless here, and Disney has the opportunity to create new characters, which means lots of new money. A new Star Wars villain, new heroes, anything can happen. But with "new" comes unbelievable risk. Disney has already committed to 2015, which means a general script is going to have to come forward pretty soon. I feel that they would be better off using my option 2, and taking some time to make sure that they get the post-ROTJ time period right. Once they've re-launched the excitement with an unbelievable "Vader" film, then they sell them on the new characters/world. If their first film is after ROTJ and it fails....Disney will be in trouble. The last thing we need here is a "setup" film. You know, a film that just sets up the rest of the series, explaining what has happened, the state of the universe, and acting as a gateway to the future. We need an impact film first, to re-create the enthusiasm. Also, you have the immense problem of Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia. The old actors are going to be bombarded with fans wondering if they are reprising their roles. But face it, they are old and done for, aside from perhaps Harrison Ford. If you think fans were outraged at casting choices for Anakin and for things they saw in the new trilogy, wait until you see how they react to a "new" Han Solo. Probability on this one: 6/10. I feel this is where it's headed. Until I see the movie I'll be nervous if this is announced. Star Wars without Anakin/Darth Vader is going to be tough to sell. It's going to require great casting, great storylines and there are many challenges. In my opinion they are challenges that would be best served by thinking about them for a year or two, instead of rushing to film with a new cast of characters.

I think you forgot option 4 - ROTJ was all a dream!!!! Vader is still alive!!!!!

I've always wondered what the reaction to ROTJ would have been if it was released in the "twitter" generation. Probably immediately called an epic flop.

 

[shader]

It's official. Michael Ardnt is the writer. http://starwars.com/news/michael-arndt-to-write-screenplay-for-star-wars-episode-vii.html

I thought Toy Story 3 was an excellent story.

 

[shader]

This has got disaster written all over it. Harrison Ford wants to reprise his role as Han Solo...in other news Ford also is interested in doing Air Force One 2, Witness 2, and Blade Runner 2. Of course he would want to make another Star Wars. I hope they get all new characters within the Empire and Rebellion. Vader is dead, where are they gonna drum up another bad guy that will have any screen presence?

I agree. Gotta have a great bad guy. That being said, no one knew who Vader was before Vader.Supposedly there's an unbelievable villain in the books. Maybe they will use one from the books. Most villains from Marvel come from the comics, so it only makes sense. Blue guy named Thrawn.Anyway, of more importance is that they nail the story and get someone in there to write dialog that sounds like things people would actually say.

 

[bentley]

I sure hope people don't start talking about how they're going to use extended universe villains from the books in the movies again. I still have the other half my narrative sitting in a Word doc if it needs to be used.

 

[NewlyRetired]

For the ghosts, I assume Yoda could show up in these movies as well. Frank Oz is still active in the business.

Depending on how they write this it could be Luke, Leia, Han, R2, C3PO and Yoda along with the younger generation

Harrison Ford fought long and hard with Lucas to have Han die in ROTJ and he lost because of the toy sales. But it might make sense to have Han die in this movie setting up the next two movies to be his kids getting the revenge.

The three most important castings will be the twins and whom ever the bad guy will be (assuming they go with the idea of Han and Leia's twin kids maybe being taught by Luke).

If they fully intend to make 6 more movies I hope they do a very detailed outline to allow the story to continue intelligently.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

they have to use new actors for those roles, Ford, Hammil and Carrie Fisher are all wayyyy to old.

Remember Adam West thought he should be batman in the Tim Burton film, LOL yeah right grandpa, move along

 

[NewlyRetired]

they have to use new actors for those roles, Ford, Hammil and Carrie Fisher are all wayyyy to old.

How can you say this when you have no idea what the time period is the movie will be set in? They might be an ok age if they have Han and Leia's kids in their 20's.Was Alec Guiness to old in A New Hope?

 

[Insein]

This has got disaster written all over it. Harrison Ford wants to reprise his role as Han Solo...in other news Ford also is interested in doing Air Force One 2, Witness 2, and Blade Runner 2. Of course he would want to make another Star Wars. I hope they get all new characters within the Empire and Rebellion.

Vader is dead, where are they gonna drum up another bad guy that will have any screen presence?

I agree. Gotta have a great bad guy. That being said, no one knew who Vader was before Vader.Supposedly there's an unbelievable villain in the books. Maybe they will use one from the books. Most villains from Marvel come from the comics, so it only makes sense. Blue guy named Thrawn.

Anyway, of more importance is that they nail the story and get someone in there to write dialog that sounds like things people would actually say.

This is the one thing that bugs me when I rewatch the films for the 200th time. In my childhood, I focused on the special effects like spaceships and aliens. When you get older and realize what they actually say to each other, you see where Lucas lacks talent wise. He has no skill for dialogue. Hopefully some fresh blood in the writing department can up the ante on that alone.

 

[Insein]

they have to use new actors for those roles, Ford, Hammil and Carrie Fisher are all wayyyy to old.

How can you say this when you have no idea what the time period is the movie will be set in? They might be an ok age if they have Han and Leia's kids in their 20's.Was Alec Guiness to old in A New Hope?

Supposedly, Lucas explained one time that humans in that universe age differently. Its not uncommon for a human to live until 150 to 200 years old. So with Luke, Leia and Han still being in their 30's in ROTJ, they'd try to look relatively young for the role even if they were in their 50's or 60's. But they will do whatever they want.

 

[NewlyRetired]

they have to use new actors for those roles, Ford, Hammil and Carrie Fisher are all wayyyy to old.

How can you say this when you have no idea what the time period is the movie will be set in? They might be an ok age if they have Han and Leia's kids in their 20's.Was Alec Guiness to old in A New Hope?

Supposedly, Lucas explained one time that humans in that universe age differently. Its not uncommon for a human to live until 150 to 200 years old. So with Luke, Leia and Han still being in their 30's in ROTJ, they'd try to look relatively young for the role even if they were in their 50's or 60's. But they will do whatever they want.

Obi's character was 57 years old when he died and looked every inch of that age IMO. In fact Alec Guinness was 62 when the role was filmed.Although with technology they can do anything they want. 7 yeas ago they did a decent job removing decades from Ian McKellen, and Patrick Stewart in XMen 3, so I would expect the technology is significantly better now if they want to go the route. Not sure it will be needed if the kids/next generation are old enough.

 

[KGB]

Hamil kinda looks like dead Vader now.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm578600704/nm0000434

 

[netnalp]

Hamil kinda looks like dead Vader now.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm578600704/nm0000434

Personally I'd be more accepting of someone else cast as Luke, than seeing Luke in the condition that Mark Hamil is in.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Hamil kinda looks like dead Vader now.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm578600704/nm0000434

Personally I'd be more accepting of someone else cast as Luke, than seeing Luke in the condition that Mark Hamil is in.

They have a year at least to get in shape.

 

[Hastur]

Hamil kinda looks like dead Vader now.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm578600704/nm0000434

Personally I'd be more accepting of someone else cast as Luke, than seeing Luke in the condition that Mark Hamil is in.

If he looks like dead Vader, I'd argue it should be Hamil. There's a family resemblence!

 

[shader]

Hamil kinda looks like dead Vader now.http://www.imdb.com/media/rm578600704/nm0000434

 

[Reepicheep]

Very enthusiastic about putting Star Wars in the hands of a competent writer. Terrified at the idea of brining back Ford, Hammil, and Fisher. Maybe, MAYBE, if Hammil and Fisher can prove they still have it, it wouldn't be terrible to have an early setup scene with them, or a few flashbacks or something. Ford of course is less of a concern.

But who on earth wants to watch Star Wars: Geriatric Adventures? It's one thing to have an older role played by the excellent Guinness along for the ride. But you just can't have your core group of characters in an Action-Adventure Sci-Fi flick all on the wrong side of time. Ford is 70 and Hammil and Fisher both look at least 10 years older than they are. Might as well throw in a grey-haired Chewbacca and a rusty C-3PO while we're at it. They can all rise up and fight for the expansion of Galactic Medicare or something. Please please no.

Just cast new actors, set it shortly after RotJ, and you are set up for another triology with Luke, Leia, Han, etc. It will be shocking but if the story, writing, directing, and acting is all good, we'll get over it 30 minutes into the movie.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Hamil kinda looks like dead Vader now.

http://www.imdb.com/...00704/nm0000434

Like Father Like Son

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This has got disaster written all over it. Harrison Ford wants to reprise his role as Han Solo...in other news Ford also is interested in doing Air Force One 2, Witness 2, and Blade Runner 2. Of course he would want to make another Star Wars. I hope they get all new characters within the Empire and Rebellion.

Vader is dead, where are they gonna drum up another bad guy that will have any screen presence?

I agree. Gotta have a great bad guy. That being said, no one knew who Vader was before Vader.Supposedly there's an unbelievable villain in the books. Maybe they will use one from the books. Most villains from Marvel come from the comics, so it only makes sense. Blue guy named Thrawn.

Anyway, of more importance is that they nail the story and get someone in there to write dialog that sounds like things people would actually say.

He looks terrifying.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Very enthusiastic about putting Star Wars in the hands of a competent writer. Terrified at the idea of brining back Ford, Hammil, and Fisher. Maybe, MAYBE, if Hammil and Fisher can prove they still have it, it wouldn't be terrible to have an early setup scene with them, or a few flashbacks or something. Ford of course is less of a concern.But who on earth wants to watch Star Wars: Geriatric Adventures? It's one thing to have an older role played by the excellent Guinness along for the ride. But you just can't have your core group of characters in an Action-Adventure Sci-Fi flick all on the wrong side of time. Ford is 70 and Hammil and Fisher both look at least 10 years older than they are. Might as well throw in a grey-haired Chewbacca and a rusty C-3PO while we're at it. They can all rise up and fight for the expansion of Galactic Medicare or something. Please please no.Just cast new actors, set it shortly after RotJ, and you are set up for another triology with Luke, Leia, Han, etc. It will be shocking but if the story, writing, directing, and acting is all good, we'll get over it 30 minutes into the movie.

All funny

 

[Insein]

This has got disaster written all over it. Harrison Ford wants to reprise his role as Han Solo...in other news Ford also is interested in doing Air Force One 2, Witness 2, and Blade Runner 2. Of course he would want to make another Star Wars. I hope they get all new characters within the Empire and Rebellion.

Vader is dead, where are they gonna drum up another bad guy that will have any screen presence?

I agree. Gotta have a great bad guy. That being said, no one knew who Vader was before Vader.Supposedly there's an unbelievable villain in the books. Maybe they will use one from the books. Most villains from Marvel come from the comics, so it only makes sense. Blue guy named Thrawn.

Anyway, of more importance is that they nail the story and get someone in there to write dialog that sounds like things people would actually say.

He looks terrifying.

Just cherry pick the worst one. How bout this instead, or this, or this

 

[NewlyRetired]

Very enthusiastic about putting Star Wars in the hands of a competent writer. Terrified at the idea of brining back Ford, Hammil, and Fisher. Maybe, MAYBE, if Hammil and Fisher can prove they still have it, it wouldn't be terrible to have an early setup scene with them, or a few flashbacks or something. Ford of course is less of a concern.But who on earth wants to watch Star Wars: Geriatric Adventures? It's one thing to have an older role played by the excellent Guinness along for the ride. But you just can't have your core group of characters in an Action-Adventure Sci-Fi flick all on the wrong side of time. Ford is 70 and Hammil and Fisher both look at least 10 years older than they are. Might as well throw in a grey-haired Chewbacca and a rusty C-3PO while we're at it. They can all rise up and fight for the expansion of Galactic Medicare or something. Please please no.Just cast new actors, set it shortly after RotJ, and you are set up for another triology with Luke, Leia, Han, etc. It will be shocking but if the story, writing, directing, and acting is all good, we'll get over it 30 minutes into the movie.

Why is everyone so fixated on the older characters being the action players in the next movie?My guess is that those roles will go to the "children" of Han and Leia. Luke acts as teacher, which fits perfectly with everything. Leia will get a little screen time but nothing important, but enough to tie the viewers back to the original and provide the connection to the children. Han can get captured or something allowing his kids to rescue him. The older characters do not in any way need to be the main action guys nor do I think they will be.

 

[netnalp]

Jeremy Irons might be a good Thrawn

I could see Ryan Gosling cast as Luke or one of the kids being taught by old Luke.

 

[Tusken Raider]

This is pretty exciting. So lets lay out the scenarios for possibilities for Star Wars 7:

1. Remake of first trilogy: -- I've actually seen people that want this. I don't think there is any way it happens. Regardless of how good or bad those movies were (and we had a lot of debate on 2 and 3 last night in the other thread) I don't think Disney is going to sink hundred of millions of dollars in the story of Anakin Skywalker again. However, IF they got a great Anakin. IF they got a GREAT script, cast, director, etc.....A re-make of the first three movies would bring back loads of fans that felt alienated from Lucas' new trilogy. It would be a huge risk though, because if it failed, I think the Star Wars franchise would be seen as a joke from here on out. Also, I'm sure Lucas would fight this with all he has, and he still is serving as a Creative consultant. Probability on this one: 1/10

2. "Vader" movie that takes place in between first two trilogies: I personally think this is a no-brainer. If I'm sitting at the head of Lucas Films today and trying to convince Disney execs which direction I want to take, this is my suggestions. Why? A few reasons: Vader is the most popular villain of all-time. As a poster in the other thread stated, Vader stuff is all over their theme parks. James Earl Jones is still alive! There is a huge story that hasn't been told yet. The story of Vader mowing down all the Jedi. Another reason this movie makes the most sense: A great script could be written fairly easy. However, can the same be said about "post-ROTJ" movies? There are a ton of complications to making "post-ROTJ" movies, which I'll get into in the next portion. I think that the first film Disney does needs be an absolute home run. Basically if I'm Disney, I hand this movie over to Christopher Nolan, and say : give us Dark Knight 2.0 in the Star Wars Universe with Vader as the centerpiece. It would be unbelievable and make more money than probably any Star Wars film out there. Probability on this one: 3/10. As "slam-dunk" as it sounds, I just have no confidence that it will actually happen.

3. "Post-ROTJ" era film: In all likelihood this is where it's going from what I've read. The Zahn books are big fan favorites and could be used. New material could be written. I know Star Wars nerds claim that the years immediately after ROTJ have all been accounted for in fan fiction, but this just isn't the case. Disney can create an entire new history, though I imagine they would use some of the popular characters in fan fiction as they do in the comic books with Marvel. The opportunities are endless here, and Disney has the opportunity to create new characters, which means lots of new money. A new Star Wars villain, new heroes, anything can happen. But with "new" comes unbelievable risk. Disney has already committed to 2015, which means a general script is going to have to come forward pretty soon. I feel that they would be better off using my option 2, and taking some time to make sure that they get the post-ROTJ time period right. Once they've re-launched the excitement with an unbelievable "Vader" film, then they sell them on the new characters/world. If their first film is after ROTJ and it fails....Disney will be in trouble. The last thing we need here is a "setup" film. You know, a film that just sets up the rest of the series, explaining what has happened, the state of the universe, and acting as a gateway to the future. We need an impact film first, to re-create the enthusiasm. Also, you have the immense problem of Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia. The old actors are going to be bombarded with fans wondering if they are reprising their roles. But face it, they are old and done for, aside from perhaps Harrison Ford. If you think fans were outraged at casting choices for Anakin and for things they saw in the new trilogy, wait until you see how they react to a "new" Han Solo. Probability on this one: 6/10. I feel this is where it's headed. Until I see the movie I'll be nervous if this is announced. Star Wars without Anakin/Darth Vader is going to be tough to sell. It's going to require great casting, great storylines and there are many challenges. In my opinion they are challenges that would be best served by thinking about them for a year or two, instead of rushing to film with a new cast of characters.

A combo of #2 & #3 might work. Make it a "Post ROTJ" timeframe that uses flashbacks to focus on the Vader backstory between EII & EIII. Use the flashbacks to introduce a new villain to the audience as a character who was with Vader at that time, & is now the main threat post ROTJ. Mace Windu & Obi Wan could come back in the flashbacks to give the audience familiarity with characters without having to rely on the older original trilogy actors so much. Use Episode VII to set up the next two.That being said, I liked the Thrawn series & think Mara Jade would be a fun character to watch if done right. Just don't know how they'd work around the whole "old cast" issue.

 

[Billy Bats]

To summarize the thread for those that haven't read it in its entirety: The Zahn stories will not be used so Thrawn, Mara Jade etc will not appear in the new movies.

 

[Chaka]

To summarize the thread for those that haven't read it in its entirety: The Zahn stories will not be used so Thrawn, Mara Jade etc will not appear in the new movies.

Is that verified?

 

[NewlyRetired]

To summarize the thread for those that haven't read it in its entirety: The Zahn stories will not be used so Thrawn, Mara Jade etc will not appear in the new movies.

Is that verified?

All we know is that Lucas handed over his treatments for either the next 3 or next 6 movies (depending upon which report you read). No one knows what the treatments entail. People have made guesses but that is all they are. We also know that both Hammil and Fisher were approached by Lucas this past summer talking about a new trilogy. It was not mentioned whether Ford was talked to by Lucas but Ford has said he would be interested depending upon script. Everything else is conjecture.

 

[Billy Bats]

A source tells E! News that the new trilogy will not be based on previously released material, saying “it’s an original story.”

However, they aren’t George Lucas’ work and a source from LucasFilm told E! Online the new trilogy will be “an original story

Yesterday Lucas said the stories for the three new films Disney is making are from his notes.

That means Zahn’s books won’t be directly adapted, but the Zahn says that was always the case: “The books were always just the books.”

Setting the sequels after the Thrawn series, but following the direction it set out in its conclusion, would be Zahn’s preference. “It would also be a little less likely to run roughshod all over the books,” Zahn says. “On the other hand, it’s George Lucas’ property and if he wants to ignore the books and comics, that’s his perfect right.”

I'm pretty sure Zahn would know by now if they planned on using his material for a movie. This is all still George's baby, whether he sold it or not. They'll be using his ideas for the next three movies at least.

 

[Insein]

A source tells E! News that the new trilogy will not be based on previously released material, saying “it’s an original story.”

However, they aren’t George Lucas’ work and a source from LucasFilm told E! Online the new trilogy will be “an original story

Yesterday Lucas said the stories for the three new films Disney is making are from his notes.

That means Zahn’s books won’t be directly adapted, but the Zahn says that was always the case: “The books were always just the books.”

Setting the sequels after the Thrawn series, but following the direction it set out in its conclusion, would be Zahn’s preference. “It would also be a little less likely to run roughshod all over the books,” Zahn says. “On the other hand, it’s George Lucas’ property and if he wants to ignore the books and comics, that’s his perfect right.”

I'm pretty sure Zahn would know by now if they planned on using his material for a movie. This is all still George's baby, whether he sold it or not. They'll be using his ideas for the next three movies at least.

Mostly wishful thinking anyway. Waste of some well done material though.

 

[NewlyRetired]

[This is all still George's baby, whether he sold it or not. They'll be using his ideas for the next three movies at least.

Yup that is exactly what I said in the post above yours. No one has any idea what the story will be outside of a few inside of Disney. It may or may not include similar items from the books. I personally think there will be small ties to the books (like Han and Leia having kids/twins, and Luke becoming a Jedi teacher etc), as someone of them just make sense to continue the story with older actors but like everyone else I will just have to wait and see.

 

[Reepicheep]

Very enthusiastic about putting Star Wars in the hands of a competent writer. Terrified at the idea of brining back Ford, Hammil, and Fisher. Maybe, MAYBE, if Hammil and Fisher can prove they still have it, it wouldn't be terrible to have an early setup scene with them, or a few flashbacks or something. Ford of course is less of a concern.But who on earth wants to watch Star Wars: Geriatric Adventures? It's one thing to have an older role played by the excellent Guinness along for the ride. But you just can't have your core group of characters in an Action-Adventure Sci-Fi flick all on the wrong side of time. Ford is 70 and Hammil and Fisher both look at least 10 years older than they are. Might as well throw in a grey-haired Chewbacca and a rusty C-3PO while we're at it. They can all rise up and fight for the expansion of Galactic Medicare or something. Please please no.Just cast new actors, set it shortly after RotJ, and you are set up for another triology with Luke, Leia, Han, etc. It will be shocking but if the story, writing, directing, and acting is all good, we'll get over it 30 minutes into the movie.

Why is everyone so fixated on the older characters being the action players in the next movie?My guess is that those roles will go to the "children" of Han and Leia. Luke acts as teacher, which fits perfectly with everything. Leia will get a little screen time but nothing important, but enough to tie the viewers back to the original and provide the connection to the children. Han can get captured or something allowing his kids to rescue him. The older characters do not in any way need to be the main action guys nor do I think they will be.

Yeah, that was kind of what I was getting at in the first paragraph. But I think it would be something of a waste to just throw away the rest of the lives of Han, Leia, and Luke, and skip straight to a new generation. As has been pointed out before, based on how much they paid for this thing, it seems like it would be silly to just jump to a bunch of new characters.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Very enthusiastic about putting Star Wars in the hands of a competent writer. Terrified at the idea of brining back Ford, Hammil, and Fisher. Maybe, MAYBE, if Hammil and Fisher can prove they still have it, it wouldn't be terrible to have an early setup scene with them, or a few flashbacks or something. Ford of course is less of a concern.But who on earth wants to watch Star Wars: Geriatric Adventures? It's one thing to have an older role played by the excellent Guinness along for the ride. But you just can't have your core group of characters in an Action-Adventure Sci-Fi flick all on the wrong side of time. Ford is 70 and Hammil and Fisher both look at least 10 years older than they are. Might as well throw in a grey-haired Chewbacca and a rusty C-3PO while we're at it. They can all rise up and fight for the expansion of Galactic Medicare or something. Please please no.Just cast new actors, set it shortly after RotJ, and you are set up for another triology with Luke, Leia, Han, etc. It will be shocking but if the story, writing, directing, and acting is all good, we'll get over it 30 minutes into the movie.

Why is everyone so fixated on the older characters being the action players in the next movie?My guess is that those roles will go to the "children" of Han and Leia. Luke acts as teacher, which fits perfectly with everything. Leia will get a little screen time but nothing important, but enough to tie the viewers back to the original and provide the connection to the children. Han can get captured or something allowing his kids to rescue him. The older characters do not in any way need to be the main action guys nor do I think they will be.

Yeah, that was kind of what I was getting at in the first paragraph. But I think it would be something of a waste to just throw away the rest of the lives of Han, Leia, and Luke, and skip straight to a new generation. As has been pointed out before, based on how much they paid for this thing, it seems like it would be silly to just jump to a bunch of new characters.

They don't have to make the jump initially, at least 100%. I still think the older characters can carry most of the first movie especially any and all non action scenes, and then transition it to the younger generation in the last two movies if it is some sort of "rescue/revenge" plot. Ford said he is going to push hard again for his character to be killed in the first movie but that got him no where the first time he tried it so who knows.

 

[mlball77]

I must admit that I’m a little bummed that some of the EU material won’t be used, but it really isn’t that big of a deal overall. They need to develop and interesting plot with an interesting bad guy (or group). Hopefully Lucas and the writer brought on board can do that. I’m optimistic, as there should be some good checks and balances that probably didn’t exist throughout the Ep 1-3 process (Jar Jar etc.).

And while I am just guessing here, I do tend to think a good portion of Eps 7-9 will have to focus on the original characters' offspring or maybe even Luke's Jedi trainees. Maybe the original stars get a lot of screen time, but maybe not. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

 

[Tom Servo]

I must admit that I'm a little bummed that some of the EU material won't be used, but it really isn't that big of a deal overall. They need to develop and interesting plot with an interesting bad guy (or group). Hopefully Lucas and the writer brought on board can do that. I'm optimistic, as there should be some good checks and balances that probably didn't exist throughout the Ep 1-3 process (Jar Jar etc.). And while I am just guessing here, I do tend to think a good portion of Eps 7-9 will have to focus on the original characters' offspring or maybe even Luke's Jedi trainees. Maybe the original stars get a lot of screen time, but maybe not. It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

IMO, I think you're right. Even in the reboot of Star Trek, they found a way to work in every characters catchphrase (Dammit, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a ____ ). While not exactly the same, if you put Luke, Leia, and Han in non-action roles (and using them at their current ages and not expecting them to be 20-something) and with a good amount of screen time, I think you can make the transition fairly easily. ETA: Even in the last Star Trek TOS movies, there was less physical action among the main characters (Uhura fan-dancing notwithstanding ). The focus was more on drama and politics than actual fighting.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I'm a little iffy on toy story 3 guy as writer.

I think that 789 are luke leia Han centric though. Depends on how long after Jedi they start 7 with but I see the theme being luke as the lonely Jedi in the universe, leia rebuilding the republic, and Han battling losing his identity vs love. Not sure what will be the overall antagonist, but there will be an overarching story. We willowy the next generation which may be their children or found students of like. By episode 9 the baton will be passed.

Then future movies can be more stand alone types rather than trilogies and will feature our new heroes.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I heard Justin Bieber is being cast as Luke Skywalker's son.

 

[mlball77]

I heard Justin Bieber is being cast as Luke Skywalker's son.

Midi-chlorians are strange things.Who is Jedi Bieber-mama?

 

[bologna]

Very enthusiastic about putting Star Wars in the hands of a competent writer. Terrified at the idea of brining back Ford, Hammil, and Fisher. Maybe, MAYBE, if Hammil and Fisher can prove they still have it, it wouldn't be terrible to have an early setup scene with them, or a few flashbacks or something. Ford of course is less of a concern.But who on earth wants to watch Star Wars: Geriatric Adventures? It's one thing to have an older role played by the excellent Guinness along for the ride. But you just can't have your core group of characters in an Action-Adventure Sci-Fi flick all on the wrong side of time. Ford is 70 and Hammil and Fisher both look at least 10 years older than they are. Might as well throw in a grey-haired Chewbacca and a rusty C-3PO while we're at it. They can all rise up and fight for the expansion of Galactic Medicare or something. Please please no.Just cast new actors, set it shortly after RotJ, and you are set up for another triology with Luke, Leia, Han, etc. It will be shocking but if the story, writing, directing, and acting is all good, we'll get over it 30 minutes into the movie.

Why is everyone so fixated on the older characters being the action players in the next movie?My guess is that those roles will go to the "children" of Han and Leia. Luke acts as teacher, which fits perfectly with everything. Leia will get a little screen time but nothing important, but enough to tie the viewers back to the original and provide the connection to the children. Han can get captured or something allowing his kids to rescue him. The older characters do not in any way need to be the main action guys nor do I think they will be.

I agree completely. I like bringing back the older cast for continuity, but the new life of the series will be the next generation of actors that they can use in the next three to six movies. I have no problem with them jumping 30 years in the future for the new story line. The die hard fans have already read the numerous EU books so they know what happened right after ROTJ. There's no need to retell it.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Is it true that Disney is sending cease and desist orders to Star Wars fan sites?

 

[joey]

Is it true that Disney is sending cease and desist orders to Star Wars fan sites?

For the record, Disney has absolutely nothing to do with the day-to-day activities of Lucasfilm until the deal is done and approved by the SEC and other agencies, probably in the next two months. So any talk of "folks at Disney" knowing what's really going on is all BS. It's the folks at Lucasfilm who are driving this whole process forward.

 

[mlball77]

No real new info here, but I found this article interesting. http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Star-Wars-VII-brings-new-hope-4065700.php

Just confirms what has already been said several times in this thread. No trilogy/series from the EU (books, comics, etc.) will be the primary focus of Eps 7-9. They may be borrowed from lightly, heavily or not at all... but it does seem apparent that Luke/Leia and the Skywalker family saga will be the backbone for Eps 7-9.

It seems that once we are beyond Eps 7-9, Disney could go about 1,000 different directions with Star Wars projects. Lots of possibilities.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

Have you guys seen this?

http://www.starwarsuncut.com/

It's awesome.

I read that too fast, and really thought it said something else.