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STAR WARS: Episode 7 (All-Time #1 opening box office.) (1 Viewer)

The video game did great, selling 6 million copies. But that's maybe 5% of the potential viewing audience for a blockbuster movie. Completely irrelevant.

 
Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.

 
Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.

 
"Well JJ, we're really in a quandary. I mean, we have this great Vader script, and I know you'd love to make it..But these video game plotlines...."

 
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Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?

 
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Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?
I dont know. What was Disneys target audience with that one?

 
"Well JJ, we're really in a quandary. I mean, we have this great Vader script, and I know you'd love to make it..But these video game plotlines...."
Great is debatable.And who says JJ would do the Vader movie that doesnt exist except in the minds of internet nerds? Hes only doing 7 right now.

 
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Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?
I dont know. What was Disneys target audience with that one?
kinda simplistic view of the behemoth that is Disney, no? I am pretty sure THE ENTIRE WORLD is their target audience.

 
Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?
I dont know. What was Disneys target audience with that one?
kinda simplistic view of the behemoth that is Disney, no? I am pretty sure THE ENTIRE WORLD is their target audience.
Silence of the Lambs 3 brought to you by Disney. Theres a reason Miramax existed.I dont think we'll see a dark and broody Star Wars film when the ultimate goal is merchandise for the 3-25 year olds. At most PG-13 with ep3 level violence.

 
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Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?
I dont know. What was Disneys target audience with that one?
kinda simplistic view of the behemoth that is Disney, no? I am pretty sure THE ENTIRE WORLD is their target audience.
Silence of the Lambs 3 brought to you by Disney. Theres a reason Miramax existed.I dont think we'll see a dark and broody Star Wars film when the ultimate goal is merchandise for the 3-25 year olds. At most PG-13 with ep3 level violence.
Is it 100 confirmed it will be put out as "Disney" rather than a Lucas Film? Just like Disney did with Marvel...

 
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Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You want introspection? Check out Darth Vader's diary.

 
Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?
I dont know. What was Disneys target audience with that one?
kinda simplistic view of the behemoth that is Disney, no? I am pretty sure THE ENTIRE WORLD is their target audience.
Silence of the Lambs 3 brought to you by Disney. Theres a reason Miramax existed.I dont think we'll see a dark and broody Star Wars film when the ultimate goal is merchandise for the 3-25 year olds. At most PG-13 with ep3 level violence.
Is it 100 confirmed it will be put out as "Disney" rather than a Lucas Film? Just like Disney did with Marvel...
And Lucasfilms has produced how many R rated films?

 
Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?
I dont know. What was Disneys target audience with that one?
kinda simplistic view of the behemoth that is Disney, no? I am pretty sure THE ENTIRE WORLD is their target audience.
Silence of the Lambs 3 brought to you by Disney. Theres a reason Miramax existed.I dont think we'll see a dark and broody Star Wars film when the ultimate goal is merchandise for the 3-25 year olds. At most PG-13 with ep3 level violence.
Is it 100 confirmed it will be put out as "Disney" rather than a Lucas Film? Just like Disney did with Marvel...
And Lucasfilms has produced how many R rated films?
Burn!

I really don't understand your "now that it's Disney OMG they are going to make it like frozen" but you're certainly entitled to your dumb fears. ;-) and your narrow "target audience" comment prompted my reply. I think your POV is a bit simplistic.

But no, I doubt Lucas will put out an R Star Wars film.

 
Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?
I dont know. What was Disneys target audience with that one?
kinda simplistic view of the behemoth that is Disney, no? I am pretty sure THE ENTIRE WORLD is their target audience.
Silence of the Lambs 3 brought to you by Disney. Theres a reason Miramax existed.I dont think we'll see a dark and broody Star Wars film when the ultimate goal is merchandise for the 3-25 year olds. At most PG-13 with ep3 level violence.
Is it 100 confirmed it will be put out as "Disney" rather than a Lucas Film? Just like Disney did with Marvel...
And Lucasfilms has produced how many R rated films?
Burn!I really don't understand your "now that it's Disney OMG they are going to make it like frozen" but you're certainly entitled to your dumb fears. ;-) and your narrow "target audience" comment prompted my reply. I think your POV is a bit simplistic.

But no, I doubt Lucas will put out an R Star Wars film.
I slept for like 3 hours last night. I dont remember my point.

 
I slept for like 3 hours last night. I dont remember my point.
I think your point was that they had established some canon. And that they were going to continue to do so with the next game. And that those fans are really at the core of their target audience. They will watch it multiple times, buy all the thousand directors cuts, etc. So it might be good to follow the canon sort of set. But I mean no one would ever do anything in a movie to make it conform to a video game they also wanted to make money off of, why it's unheard of.

 
I don't think they are going to abide by the video games when making movies, come on.
I merely meant that a lot of the EU books were made in the 90's. So disregarding them is one thing. Your target audience wont know or care. But Force Unleashed 1&2 was 2009 & 2010 with FU3 coming in the next year. They feature Vader prominently and are targeted at the potential audience they want. To completely change the story from where they went in those would confuse a lot of potential viewers in their target demo.
They definitely do not care about the books or video games. Maybe 2% of the audience seeing these movies have ever read those books. They are making these for a billion dollar payday, they're going to do what they want and it's a wide open canvas.
Yep. The people who read that stuff will go see these movies no matter what they do. Disney will appeal to a much larger audience.
Where did I say they were using the books? I actually said they would ignore them.However they made 3 video games in the last 4 years that feature Vaders back story and the Rebels beginning. These games were targeted at the 8-25 year old demographic. I dont think its as cut and dry that they ignore those.
Yes it is.

Do the batman movies follow the Arkham games?
If they weren't hell bent on going with the JLA route in the movies...I wouldn't have been surprised if the movies(or comics) drew from some material from the games; be it plot or maybe character presentation. I actually think you're selling the stories for games a bit short.

 
I slept for like 3 hours last night. I dont remember my point.
I think your point was that they had established some canon. And that they were going to continue to do so with the next game. And that those fans are really at the core of their target audience. They will watch it multiple times, buy all the thousand directors cuts, etc. So it might be good to follow the canon sort of set. But I mean no one would ever do anything in a movie to make it conform to a video game they also wanted to make money off of, why it's unheard of.
Yes thank you.

 
I don't think they are going to abide by the video games when making movies, come on.
I merely meant that a lot of the EU books were made in the 90's. So disregarding them is one thing. Your target audience wont know or care. But Force Unleashed 1&2 was 2009 & 2010 with FU3 coming in the next year. They feature Vader prominently and are targeted at the potential audience they want. To completely change the story from where they went in those would confuse a lot of potential viewers in their target demo.
They definitely do not care about the books or video games. Maybe 2% of the audience seeing these movies have ever read those books. They are making these for a billion dollar payday, they're going to do what they want and it's a wide open canvas.
Yep. The people who read that stuff will go see these movies no matter what they do. Disney will appeal to a much larger audience.
Where did I say they were using the books? I actually said they would ignore them. However they made 3 video games in the last 4 years that feature Vaders back story and the Rebels beginning. These games were targeted at the 8-25 year old demographic. I dont think its as cut and dry that they ignore those.
They are 1000% not going to pay attention to any video games ( :lmao: ). If it was even brought up in a script meeting that person would be ushered out of the room.
Uh huh. I forgot how many scripting experts we have in the FFA.
You don't need to be a scriptwriter to realize they aren't going to pay attention to any video game backstory. This isn't a Sonic the Hedgehog movie.
Yeah, sonic doesn't come out until 2016

 
Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
Tatooian Psycho. Awesome!

 
In the age of anti-heroes like Walter white and tony soprano, an evil vader rampaging while being conflicted could be good if done right.

The fear would be weakening the character even more so after what the prequels did to him. Vader isn't as intimidating to the audience in episode 4 if you saw the prequels first.

Which is why to new star wars watchers you show them 4-5-1-2-3-6.
I thought Anakin slaughtering all the Jedi kids was the most horrific thing he ever did.

 
Disney announced that Gareth Edwards (Godzilla) will be directing and Gary Whitta (Book of Eli) will be writing the new, unknown stand alone Star Wars movie due out in December '16.http://starwars.com/news/gareth-edwards-and-gary-whitta-onboard-for-star-wars-stand-alone-film.html
:mellow:

That his big writing credit? Seriously?

Meh, I guess it's still better than Lucas.
The dude also wrote After Earth. Which would you put on your resume?

 
Disney announced that Gareth Edwards (Godzilla) will be directing and Gary Whitta (Book of Eli) will be writing the new, unknown stand alone Star Wars movie due out in December '16.

http://starwars.com/news/gareth-edwards-and-gary-whitta-onboard-for-star-wars-stand-alone-film.html
:mellow:

That his big writing credit? Seriously?

Meh, I guess it's still better than Lucas.
He also wrote After Earth :X

I have seen Monsters and Godzilla (both directed by Edwards) and I think he often comes close to delivering the goods but in both films he fell disappointingly short of the mark.

 
Insein said:
Besides this is all on a hypothetical Vader movie that shows him as Vader doing Vader stuff. Which I guess is cool but about as much depth as the Incredible Hulk.
Considering all 6 movies are about Anakin/Vader, that's either a silly statement or an indictment on Star Wars.
Star Wars isn't exactly Shakespeare. Its just a fun experience. I dont know how much fun an introspective look at Vader as Vader would be. It would be like a day in the life of a sociopath. Great fun.
You just proved his point. It doesn't have to be "fun". Probably a bad analogy, but did Silence of the Lambs suck?
I dont know. What was Disneys target audience with that one?
kinda simplistic view of the behemoth that is Disney, no? I am pretty sure THE ENTIRE WORLD is their target audience.
Silence of the Lambs 3 brought to you by Disney. Theres a reason Miramax existed.I dont think we'll see a dark and broody Star Wars film when the ultimate goal is merchandise for the 3-25 year olds. At most PG-13 with ep3 level violence.
Is it 100 confirmed it will be put out as "Disney" rather than a Lucas Film? Just like Disney did with Marvel...
Star Wars is a Lucasfilm production. Sure, Lucasfilm is owned by Disney, but Star Wars is being driven by Lucasfilm. Just like Marvel has it's own president, internal decision making and control structure and multiple productions going on at once, Lucasfilm has the same with the multiple Star Wars movies coming out.

 
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Disney announced that Gareth Edwards (Godzilla) will be directing and Gary Whitta (Book of Eli) will be writing the new, unknown stand alone Star Wars movie due out in December '16.http://starwars.com/news/gareth-edwards-and-gary-whitta-onboard-for-star-wars-stand-alone-film.html
:mellow:

That his big writing credit? Seriously?

Meh, I guess it's still better than Lucas.
The dude also wrote After Earth. Which would you put on your resume?
:lmao:

Good point.

 
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Is it 100 confirmed it will be put out as "Disney" rather than a Lucas Film? Just like Disney did with Marvel...
Star Wars is a Lucasfilm production. Sure, Lucasfilm is owned by Disney, but Star Wars is being driven by Lucasfilm. Just like Marvel has it's own president, internal decision making and control structure and multiple productions going on at once, Lucasfilm has the same with the multiple Star Wars movies coming out.
Episode 7 is actually being produced by Bad Robot.
 
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Billy Bats said:
joey said:
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Is it 100 confirmed it will be put out as "Disney" rather than a Lucas Film? Just like Disney did with Marvel...
Star Wars is a Lucasfilm production. Sure, Lucasfilm is owned by Disney, but Star Wars is being driven by Lucasfilm. Just like Marvel has it's own president, internal decision making and control structure and multiple productions going on at once, Lucasfilm has the same with the multiple Star Wars movies coming out.
Episode 7 is actually being produced by Bad Robot.
Technically, it's being produced by all three: Walt Disney Pictures, Lucasfilm and Bad Robot.

I'm sure all three logos will be prominent at the head of the film...in which order, I don't know.

There is no Lucasfilm/Disney combo logo that I know of yet (like the Pixar/Disney logo) but maybe that'll be unveiled for the head credits of this film.

 
I bet we get a shocking cameo from the first three films in episode 7. My money is on an aged Mace Windu showing up. We never found the body and probably no-one would have even looked for it after what went down. Went into hiding for years and comes back.

 
I bet we get a shocking cameo from the first three films in episode 7. My money is on an aged Mace Windu showing up. We never found the body and probably no-one would have even looked for it after what went down. Went into hiding for years and comes back.
Good one. That always bothered me because he only got his hand cut off and blown out the window by the Emperor. Luke managed to survive both of those (Anakin had no problem sky diving without a parachute as well) and he wasn't half the jedi Windu was.

 
Really looking forward to it. Not a JJ Abrams hater. I think he'll do a bang-up job on it. Especially with Lucas not really involved. I just hope that if they have a really cool bad guy, a la Darth Maul, they don't kill him off too early. <_<

 
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Didn't Maul come back in the animated Clone Wars with robotic legs?

Not saying a spin off movie, but as a villain in Episode VII?...could be.

 
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I bet we get a shocking cameo from the first three films in episode 7. My money is on an aged Mace Windu showing up. We never found the body and probably no-one would have even looked for it after what went down. Went into hiding for years and comes back.
Good one. That always bothered me because he only got his hand cut off and blown out the window by the Emperor. Luke managed to survive both of those (Anakin had no problem sky diving without a parachute as well) and he wasn't half the jedi Windu was.
That would be disappointing. If he just stayed hidden through the events of IV-VI he would be a punk.

And the Skywalkers were said to be the last hope.

 
"According to reports, producers intend to use less CG in the new movies -- instead, relying heavily on practical effects like the original trilogy ... which is evident in these photos."Sweet!
:thumbup: No doubt. One of the big things that ruined the prequels(for me) was the overload of CGI. They couldn't even use real people wearing clone trooper armor and it was obvious. :angry:

Two more ladies added to the cast:

http://starwars.com/star-wars-episode-vii-adds-academy-award-winner-lupita-nyongo-and-game-of-thrones-gwendoline-christie.html

 
"According to reports, producers intend to use less CG in the new movies -- instead, relying heavily on practical effects like the original trilogy ... which is evident in these photos."Sweet!
:thumbup: No doubt. One of the big things that ruined the prequels(for me) was the overload of CGI. They couldn't even use real people wearing clone trooper armor and it was obvious. :angry:

Two more ladies added to the cast:

http://starwars.com/star-wars-episode-vii-adds-academy-award-winner-lupita-nyongo-and-game-of-thrones-gwendoline-christie.html
Although CGI has come a looooonnnnggg way since ROTS. Did you know that Zod's armor (and I think Jor El's) in Man of Steel was CGI?

 
"According to reports, producers intend to use less CG in the new movies -- instead, relying heavily on practical effects like the original trilogy ... which is evident in these photos."Sweet!
:thumbup: No doubt. One of the big things that ruined the prequels(for me) was the overload of CGI. They couldn't even use real people wearing clone trooper armor and it was obvious. :angry: Two more ladies added to the cast:

http://starwars.com/star-wars-episode-vii-adds-academy-award-winner-lupita-nyongo-and-game-of-thrones-gwendoline-christie.html
Although CGI has come a looooonnnnggg way since ROTS. Did you know that Zod's armor (and I think Jor El's) in Man of Steel was CGI?
I didn't, that's pretty cool. I don't have as much an issue with non-life CGI as I do CGI people/charachters. I may have even hated Jar Jar a little less if he was an actual puppet on a stick.

 
If the nostalgia and appeal of Star Wars is based upon the first couple of movies, I don't see any way I can get excited about this. It was new and cutting edge, now, it's been beat into the ground.

 
Ha!

The Falcon arrives at Cloud City. The shooting of the scene was delayed after Carrie Fisher felt unwell following a night with Eric Idle, Harrison Ford and the Rolling Stones drinking a beverage called Tunisian Table Cleaner discovered by Idle during the filming of Life Of Brian. The party atmosphere spilled into the shoot. "Billy Dee (Williams) would say dirty things," said Fisher. "I would say them right back. He said something unmentionable when he kissed my hand."
You old smoothie.

 
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