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Kinda comically, none of the 6 entries has Favre6 have Tavaris Jackson.-QGJerheme Urban is owned by 7. He's on IR though.Jarret Dillard is owned by 11 - this is the lowest I could find
-QGKinda comically, none of the 6 entries has Favre6 have Tavaris Jackson.-QGJerheme Urban is owned by 7. He's on IR though.Jarret Dillard is owned by 11 - this is the lowest I could find
-QG73 teams have Glen Coffee.
This would be the 'set it and forget it' crowd.Wonder who has the most IR guys?-QG5 have Joey Haynos TE6 have Tavaris Jackson.-QGJerheme Urban is owned by 7. He's on IR though.Jarret Dillard is owned by 11 - this is the lowest I could find
In a contest like this where it's 1 in 13000, the philosphy may be to go for it and take the chance that they will all pan out.Very surprised at the number of smaller rosters. Problem with the smaller roster is that you assume all of your studs will pan out. Problem is that history shows that 50% of them will not live up to their value. So now you have to deal with "busts" and bye weeks. This is why these teams got crushed last year.Larger rosters are ALWAYS better in best ball format. Perhaps this year we can finally put this argument to rest.
That's why you pick consistent studs over unpredictable ones. Peyton over Romo. ADP over Turner, Andre Johnson over Fitz, etc. There arent any $1 guys this year, so by going with 30 guys on your roster you're overpaying for a ton of guys who should be $1 and won't produce.Very surprised at the number of smaller rosters. Problem with the smaller roster is that you assume all of your studs will pan out. Problem is that history shows that 50% of them will not live up to their value. So now you have to deal with "busts" and bye weeks. This is why these teams got crushed last year.Larger rosters are ALWAYS better in best ball format. Perhaps this year we can finally put this argument to rest.
I hope you're wrong.Very surprised at the number of smaller rosters. Problem with the smaller roster is that you assume all of your studs will pan out. Problem is that history shows that 50% of them will not live up to their value. So now you have to deal with "busts" and bye weeks. This is why these teams got crushed last year.Larger rosters are ALWAYS better in best ball format. Perhaps this year we can finally put this argument to rest.

automatic 0 for 5 weeks (couting bye) turned me off on HolmesSurprised Steve Smith CAR and S. Holmes didn't make it onto more rosters.
Ty sir.Drinen's QuerierWhere are the ownership stats?
Consistent or not, one injury to a guy could ruin you with a short roster in best ball. Many of the 2nd/3rd tier players end up with 4-5 really good games (beating most of the studs for the week), but you never know when they will hit. In best ball, you don't get penalized for not knowing when this will happen, and often times a group of 3 $5 inconsistent "scrubs" can outperform a consistent $25 stud with less risk of individual injury. Even top tier WR's drop nasty goose-eggs once in a while, I'd much rather have 3-4 known inconsistent ones working together to make my score. You do need some consistent big number threats to win it all, which is why I think a lot of guys never made it to a 30 man roster, myself included, but a deeper roster tends to have more long run potential.That's why you pick consistent studs over unpredictable ones. Peyton over Romo. ADP over Turner, Andre Johnson over Fitz, etc. There arent any $1 guys this year, so by going with 30 guys on your roster you're overpaying for a ton of guys who should be $1 and won't produce.Very surprised at the number of smaller rosters. Problem with the smaller roster is that you assume all of your studs will pan out. Problem is that history shows that 50% of them will not live up to their value. So now you have to deal with "busts" and bye weeks. This is why these teams got crushed last year.Larger rosters are ALWAYS better in best ball format. Perhaps this year we can finally put this argument to rest.
Exactly> Trust me, nine tenths will need to pan out whatever you do. This year, I took 3QBs and 3 Team D for depth but only 4 RBs, im sure some people say that is insane. Maybe it is, but taking one more RB from the basement was not going to make a difference.Ive studied my really low dollar players from my teams in the previous years - they barely contributed whether i went old or young, they are $3 for a reason.In a contest like this where it's 1 in 13000, the philosphy may be to go for it and take the chance that they will all pan out.Very surprised at the number of smaller rosters. Problem with the smaller roster is that you assume all of your studs will pan out. Problem is that history shows that 50% of them will not live up to their value. So now you have to deal with "busts" and bye weeks. This is why these teams got crushed last year.Larger rosters are ALWAYS better in best ball format. Perhaps this year we can finally put this argument to rest.
Gave serious thought to Holmes (and similarly to Roethlisberger) but that's a lot of weeks to miss a guy. The topper for Holmes was that he had the same bye week as Calvin Johnson who I see as a mandatory play.By the way, 636 entries spent less than $250Surprised Steve Smith CAR and S. Holmes didn't make it onto more rosters.
I remember 2 years ago when Sinorice Moss did nothing for me...except save me with a 2.0 point effort when I made the cut by less than 1Exactly> Trust me, nine tenths will need to pan out whatever you do. This year, I took 3QBs and 3 Team D for depth but only 4 RBs, im sure some people say that is insane. Maybe it is, but taking one more RB from the basement was not going to make a difference.Ive studied my really low dollar players from my teams in the previous years - they barely contributed whether i went old or young, they are $3 for a reason.In a contest like this where it's 1 in 13000, the philosphy may be to go for it and take the chance that they will all pan out.Very surprised at the number of smaller rosters. Problem with the smaller roster is that you assume all of your studs will pan out. Problem is that history shows that 50% of them will not live up to their value. So now you have to deal with "busts" and bye weeks. This is why these teams got crushed last year.Larger rosters are ALWAYS better in best ball format. Perhaps this year we can finally put this argument to rest.
-QGYeah, I think Thomas was priced too high but I wanted him on my team anyway.WR Mike Thomas and RB Chester Taylor could prove valuable as they aren't strongly owned.
Where's the link for that, and how do you find your team out of 13K?Of course, Drinen's week 1 simulator has me at 12000+ place, which does not bode well![]()
So you're sayin there's a chance........4 teams have both Ben Tate AND Montario Hardesty.One of those four entries also took Vincent Jackson.
I discounted that (maybe too much), but when you see that 636 entries didn't spend the max and all the 18 man rosters, I figured 4 weeks at the beginning of the contest before the byes hit wasn't a killer. Hoping that I'm getting value pricing for the weeks he does play.automatic 0 for 5 weeks (couting bye) turned me off on HolmesSurprised Steve Smith CAR and S. Holmes didn't make it onto more rosters.
DD posted it early this morning. Use Control F and search for your team number......using you have a team like mine and then you just scan the first page up top.Where's the link for that, and how do you find your team out of 13K?Of course, Drinen's week 1 simulator has me at 12000+ place, which does not bode well![]()

For those that are interested, these were the survival percentages going into the final 250 last year:
+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+| roster_size | number | alive | pct_alive |+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+| 20 | 5181 | 55 | 0.0106 || 21 | 2032 | 15 | 0.0074 || 22 | 1445 | 19 | 0.0131 || 23 | 1291 | 30 | 0.0232 || 24 | 3328 | 131 | 0.0394 || TOTAL | 13277 | 250 | 0.0188 |+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+And IIRC something like 9 of the top 10 prize winners were 24-man rosters. There was little doubt by the end of the year that the strategy of choosing a smaller roster of "studs" was a losing one.
I doubt many people are saying that the 18-player teams have zero chance of winning the contest. The above statistics from last year show that the largest teams (24 players) had more than 4 times the odds of making it to the final 250 than the smallest (20 and 21 player) teams - and 3 times the odds compared to the 22-player teams.Some features of the contest are significantly different this year: (1) rosters from 18 up to 30 players are allowed, and (2) the dollar scale for players is compressed with lower values for the best players and substantial reduction of the number of $1 and $2 players.Going with 18 players is not a safe bet at all. The risk is in having very little depth. Getting Andre Johnson is not a safe bet if the only depth you have behind him are 4 other guys. Emmanual Sanders is nothing more than a SWAG.I actually went with an 24 player team, but I disagree with people who say that the 18 player teams have zero chance. All it takes is to hit on the right bargain guys to carry you through the byes.We obviously have very different views about what "swing for the fences" means.It usually means disregard for the "safe bet" and taking on more risk that could pay a higher reward.You have to swing for the fences in this which means paying $$$ for good players.
Andre Johnson is a safe bet.
Emmanuel Sanders is an eyes-closed, pull-a-muscle-in-your-shoulder swing for the fences.
Link to the studs that don't have down weeks?That's why you pick consistent studs over unpredictable ones. Peyton over Romo. ADP over Turner, Andre Johnson over Fitz, etc. There arent any $1 guys this year, so by going with 30 guys on your roster you're overpaying for a ton of guys who should be $1 and won't produce.Very surprised at the number of smaller rosters. Problem with the smaller roster is that you assume all of your studs will pan out. Problem is that history shows that 50% of them will not live up to their value. So now you have to deal with "busts" and bye weeks. This is why these teams got crushed last year.Larger rosters are ALWAYS better in best ball format. Perhaps this year we can finally put this argument to rest.
Actually did both. Have five of the above guys for $29 and spent $27 on Cal Johnson. The question is where's the balance.-QGFor those that are interested, these were the survival percentages going into the final 250 last year:
+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+| roster_size | number | alive | pct_alive |+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+| 20 | 5181 | 55 | 0.0106 || 21 | 2032 | 15 | 0.0074 || 22 | 1445 | 19 | 0.0131 || 23 | 1291 | 30 | 0.0232 || 24 | 3328 | 131 | 0.0394 || TOTAL | 13277 | 250 | 0.0188 |+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+And IIRC something like 9 of the top 10 prize winners were 24-man rosters. There was little doubt by the end of the year that the strategy of choosing a smaller roster of "studs" was a losing one.I doubt many people are saying that the 18-player teams have zero chance of winning the contest. The above statistics from last year show that the largest teams (24 players) had more than 4 times the odds of making it to the final 250 than the smallest (20 and 21 player) teams - and 3 times the odds compared to the 22-player teams.Some features of the contest are significantly different this year: (1) rosters from 18 up to 30 players are allowed, and (2) the dollar scale for players is compressed with lower values for the best players and substantial reduction of the number of $1 and $2 players.Going with 18 players is not a safe bet at all. The risk is in having very little depth. Getting Andre Johnson is not a safe bet if the only depth you have behind him are 4 other guys. Emmanual Sanders is nothing more than a SWAG.I actually went with an 24 player team, but I disagree with people who say that the 18 player teams have zero chance. All it takes is to hit on the right bargain guys to carry you through the byes.We obviously have very different views about what "swing for the fences" means.It usually means disregard for the "safe bet" and taking on more risk that could pay a higher reward.You have to swing for the fences in this which means paying $$$ for good players.
Andre Johnson is a safe bet.
Emmanuel Sanders is an eyes-closed, pull-a-muscle-in-your-shoulder swing for the fences.
Does this mean that the larger rosters still have a better chance of winning this year's contest than the smaller rosters? Time will tell I guess. My gut says yes. If you can find "value-players" who are likely to significantly outperform their $ costs, then it's a good strategy to load up with a bunch of value-players and a few studs.
Look at the low-priced WRs with upside:
Mike Williams, TB - $8
Nate Washington, TEN - $8
Bernard Berrian, MIN - $7
Chris Chambers, KC - $7
Laurent Robinson, STL - $7
Josh Morgan, SF - $6
Naanee, SD - $6
Brian Hartline - $6
Louis Murphy, OAK - $4
Deion Branch, SEA - $3
Shipley, CIN - $3
Justin Gage, TEN - $2
For the contest, would you be better off spending $25-30 on a single stud receiver -- or spreading that money out over 5-7 value-priced players? Although some will disagree, I think the answer is obvious.
Excellent link! (Projected at #2649 here)Link to Week 1 ProjectionsUse Control F and search for your team number.
Projected #52 ..Excellent link! (Projected at #2649 here)Link to Week 1 ProjectionsUse Control F and search for your team number.

For the contest overall you need both. In a given week - who knows?For those that are interested, these were the survival percentages going into the final 250 last year:
+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+| roster_size | number | alive | pct_alive |+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+| 20 | 5181 | 55 | 0.0106 || 21 | 2032 | 15 | 0.0074 || 22 | 1445 | 19 | 0.0131 || 23 | 1291 | 30 | 0.0232 || 24 | 3328 | 131 | 0.0394 || TOTAL | 13277 | 250 | 0.0188 |+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+And IIRC something like 9 of the top 10 prize winners were 24-man rosters. There was little doubt by the end of the year that the strategy of choosing a smaller roster of "studs" was a losing one.I doubt many people are saying that the 18-player teams have zero chance of winning the contest. The above statistics from last year show that the largest teams (24 players) had more than 4 times the odds of making it to the final 250 than the smallest (20 and 21 player) teams - and 3 times the odds compared to the 22-player teams.Some features of the contest are significantly different this year: (1) rosters from 18 up to 30 players are allowed, and (2) the dollar scale for players is compressed with lower values for the best players and substantial reduction of the number of $1 and $2 players.Going with 18 players is not a safe bet at all. The risk is in having very little depth. Getting Andre Johnson is not a safe bet if the only depth you have behind him are 4 other guys. Emmanual Sanders is nothing more than a SWAG.I actually went with an 24 player team, but I disagree with people who say that the 18 player teams have zero chance. All it takes is to hit on the right bargain guys to carry you through the byes.We obviously have very different views about what "swing for the fences" means.It usually means disregard for the "safe bet" and taking on more risk that could pay a higher reward.You have to swing for the fences in this which means paying $$$ for good players.
Andre Johnson is a safe bet.
Emmanuel Sanders is an eyes-closed, pull-a-muscle-in-your-shoulder swing for the fences.
Does this mean that the larger rosters still have a better chance of winning this year's contest than the smaller rosters? Time will tell I guess. My gut says yes. If you can find "value-players" who are likely to significantly outperform their $ costs, then it's a good strategy to load up with a bunch of value-players and a few studs.
Look at the low-priced WRs with upside:
Mike Williams, TB - $8
Nate Washington, TEN - $8
Bernard Berrian, MIN - $7
Chris Chambers, KC - $7
Laurent Robinson, STL - $7
Josh Morgan, SF - $6
Naanee, SD - $6
Brian Hartline - $6
Louis Murphy, OAK - $4
Deion Branch, SEA - $3
Shipley, CIN - $3
Justin Gage, TEN - $2
For the contest, would you be better off spending $25-30 on a single stud receiver -- or spreading that money out over 5-7 value-priced players? Although some will disagree, I think the answer is obvious.
Wow - his cheapest guy is $4 too...
It was a couple pages back. Here: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contes...eweekonly-1.phpThen just search for your team #.Where's the link for that, and how do you find your team out of 13K?Of course, Drinen's week 1 simulator has me at 12000+ place, which does not bode well![]()
It would be great if this info could get added to the first page that way when the question comes up a couple of times everyday we could just say see the first post.It was a couple pages back. Here: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contes...eweekonly-1.phpThen just search for your team #.Where's the link for that, and how do you find your team out of 13K?Of course, Drinen's week 1 simulator has me at 12000+ place, which does not bode well![]()
And for your querying fun: http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/c...uerier_form.php
The 4 guys with 100% chance have.....FinleyProjected #52 ..Excellent link! (Projected at #2649 here)Link to Week 1 ProjectionsUse Control F and search for your team number.![]()
Again, be careful guys - the Turk is watching all this is taking down names to zap!-QGThe 4 guys with 100% chance have.....FinleyProjected #52 ..Excellent link! (Projected at #2649 here)Link to Week 1 ProjectionsUse Control F and search for your team number.![]()
Not sure if you're aware of this, but the Turk now does Finley's bidding.Again, be careful guys - the Turk is watching all this is taking down names to zap!-QG
Still wish I had found way to add 8th n 9th receiver. Could have paired down to Z. Miller n Cooley and still had the NE TE's(both), If I just sacrificed a bit more.Im done changing.
Brady .............24...........1302/13061 = 9.96%
Schaub............23...........1870/13061 = 14.32% ..........combined ownership % = 58/13061 = .44%
Wanted consistent power production and paid for it. No late bye weeks is a plus.
R. Bush............22.............689/13061 = 5.28%
Bradshaw.........18...........2937/13061 = 22.49% >> was expecting this to be higher
Spiller..............17...........3197/13061 = 24.48%
Foster..............13...........8276/13061 = 63.36% >>cant believe this is'nt north of 90%
B. Scott.............6...........1031/13061 = 7.89%
Reggie was my big splurge. Did it for couple of reasons. 1. I didnt expect as much redundancy w/this pick 2. I think he has solid upside, even at this price.
I expected a larger percentage would have Bradshaw (prob 60%). Spiller's bye week (6) worked well, and his price was lower than F Jackson, and I expect he will get a bit more touches. Foster is a must have at this price. I expected 95+ % ownership. Call it "Keeping up w/the Joneses." Scott is my one flyer. Uber talent. Hope he gets a couple of starts. No handcuffs here. It's too cost prohibitive IMO.
J. Knox...............18.......1783/13061 = 13.65%
J. Gaffney...........16.......1597/13061 = 12.23%
J. Jones(HOU)......10.......1682/13061 = 12.88%
M. Williams(TAM)...8.......3619/13061 = 27.71% >>again, cant believe that he wasnt 80% + owned
J. Jones(GNB).......7..........793/13061 = 6.07%
D. McCluster.........7........1343/13061 = 10.28%
L. Naanee.............7........1015/13061 = 7.77%
Playing low ball potpourri here. Really would have liked an 8th receiver. I like this motley bunch, but am not sold on them either. I could never find a way to spend for one of the big guns. Every iteration I tried w/ a big gun (24+ cost) left me w/ too much exposure in other area's. If any area is going to be my downfall in the contest, this will be it.
J. Finley...............21........3419/13061 = 26.18%
C. Cooley............13........1077/13061 = 8.25%
At 1.5 ppr, it's a given IMO, that u need to spend to acquire quality here. God I wish Z. Miller and Finley didnt share the same bye weekI went thru iterations using Cooley, Z. Miller, and Daniels. Ultimately, was just spending too much here and had to pare down. Also toyed w/ a TE handcuff of Gronkowski and Hernandez to go along with Finley, but was too worried they would cancel each other out more often than not. In the end, have drank way too much Finley koolaid
I had to have him on the roster.
N. Folk................4
R. Bironas...........3
S. Janikowski.......2
M. Bryant............2
4 PK's give u solid chance of quality score every week. No duplicate bye's. And it spreads out the exposure to late season inclement weather risk.
San Francisco......5
Oakland..............4
Even though Im a Niner fan and bay area local. I truly do believe they will have a top 3 D output this year. The soft sched is a huge assist. And even though I hate the Raiders (I take that back, I hate Al Davis), I do believe they are gonna suprise some folks this year.
So, there is my 22, for better or worse.
For those that are interested, these were the survival percentages going into the final 250 last year:
+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+| roster_size | number | alive | pct_alive |+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+| 20 | 5181 | 55 | 0.0106 || 21 | 2032 | 15 | 0.0074 || 22 | 1445 | 19 | 0.0131 || 23 | 1291 | 30 | 0.0232 || 24 | 3328 | 131 | 0.0394 || TOTAL | 13277 | 250 | 0.0188 |+-------------+--------+-------+-----------+And IIRC something like 9 of the top 10 prize winners were 24-man rosters. There was little doubt by the end of the year that the strategy of choosing a smaller roster of "studs" was a losing one.I doubt many people are saying that the 18-player teams have zero chance of winning the contest. The above statistics from last year show that the largest teams (24 players) had more than 4 times the odds of making it to the final 250 than the smallest (20 and 21 player) teams - and 3 times the odds compared to the 22-player teams.Some features of the contest are significantly different this year: (1) rosters from 18 up to 30 players are allowed, and (2) the dollar scale for players is compressed with lower values for the best players and substantial reduction of the number of $1 and $2 players.Going with 18 players is not a safe bet at all. The risk is in having very little depth. Getting Andre Johnson is not a safe bet if the only depth you have behind him are 4 other guys. Emmanual Sanders is nothing more than a SWAG.I actually went with an 24 player team, but I disagree with people who say that the 18 player teams have zero chance. All it takes is to hit on the right bargain guys to carry you through the byes.We obviously have very different views about what "swing for the fences" means.It usually means disregard for the "safe bet" and taking on more risk that could pay a higher reward.You have to swing for the fences in this which means paying $$$ for good players.
Andre Johnson is a safe bet.
Emmanuel Sanders is an eyes-closed, pull-a-muscle-in-your-shoulder swing for the fences.
Does this mean that the larger rosters still have a better chance of winning this year's contest than the smaller rosters? Time will tell I guess. My gut says yes. If you can find "value-players" who are likely to significantly outperform their $ costs, then it's a good strategy to load up with a bunch of value-players and a few studs.
Look at the low-priced WRs with upside:
Mike Williams, TB - $8
Nate Washington, TEN - $8
Bernard Berrian, MIN - $7
Chris Chambers, KC - $7
Laurent Robinson, STL - $7
Josh Morgan, SF - $6
Naanee, SD - $6
Brian Hartline - $6
Louis Murphy, OAK - $4
Deion Branch, SEA - $3
Shipley, CIN - $3
Justin Gage, TEN - $2
For the contest, would you be better off spending $25-30 on a single stud receiver -- or spreading that money out over 5-7 value-priced players? Although some will disagree, I think the answer is obvious.
I had 22 or 23 players last year and lasted pretty late, but this year is very different, with much cheaper studs and much more expensive lower-end players for the value. The shorter rosters last year probably didn't have many of the great $1-4 players that were common. This year, there are very few such bargains, so it's apples and oranges.This year, I have only 18 players, but I have 4 of the above value WR's to go along with Andre Johnson and Welker. I also have Rodgers, Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, and Finley, so went with the stud theory combined with value. With less depth, I may be more susceptible during byes than a 26-player team, but if I can survive the bye weeks and the top guys stay healthy, I think I'll have a better chance of winning than most 26-player teams (projected #29 in week 1). Hopefully the rest of the studs and value players will make up for the studs on bye.Crazy when you consider Shonn Green was only $27.The most overpriced RB: Beanie Wells at $28. Only 87 people paid for him.