SuperJohn96
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This might help...dino259 said:The only thing I would like added is the listing of the bye weeks right on the submission form. It would make it much easier to see bye week conflicts.
This might help...dino259 said:The only thing I would like added is the listing of the bye weeks right on the submission form. It would make it much easier to see bye week conflicts.
"Thanks"He says after pairing Romo with Big Ben and having no QB in Week 4.This might help...dino259 said:The only thing I would like added is the listing of the bye weeks right on the submission form. It would make it much easier to see bye week conflicts.
Did the same thing.After going through it a couple of times, my prediction is that the results will still be biased towards teams with more players, possibly all the way up to 30. More players in best ball is a huge advantage, and I actually wound up having to upgrade players because I had too many cheapos.
Definitely. In past years, there always seemed to be a good crop of bargain players. Not this year, so much. So I think it's those middle-tier solid players that will make or break a lot of teams in this contest.I am having the same problem. Every time I think about the stud, I say something like "I'd like to have Wayne, but I could get good WR in that offense for over 1/2 the amount." As people have stated, there seems to be a lot less bargains this year than past years. Very hard to take a couple of studs and sift through the $2-$4 guys and get a couple decent sleepers. So far I only have 2 $5 players and 1 $4 player I like, and that it what is bogging me down. Also trying to avoid byes at all costs - currently have 5 RBs with 5 different byes and 6WRs with 5 different byes.I am torn about my WR1. On one hand, I want a stud like Austin or Moss. On the other hand, that's a lot of money to spend on one roster spot. I am leaning towards spending that $26 on two lower tier guys.
I think bulk helps you get through some bye weeks at the start, but in the end you need guys consistently putting up points. I think somebody asked in the thread earlier - what did last year's top teams look like??After going through it a couple of times, my prediction is that the results will still be biased towards teams with more players, possibly all the way up to 30. More players in best ball is a huge advantage, and I actually wound up having to upgrade players because I had too many cheapos.
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2009/week-16.phpThe winner had no player over $27. Key players in weeks 13-16 were Tony Romo ($23), Ray Rice ($21), Jamaal Charles ($7), Desean Jackson ($24), Derrick Mason ($9), and Brent Celek ($7).I think bulk helps you get through some bye weeks at the start, but in the end you need guys consistently putting up points. I think somebody asked in the thread earlier - what did last year's top teams look like??After going through it a couple of times, my prediction is that the results will still be biased towards teams with more players, possibly all the way up to 30. More players in best ball is a huge advantage, and I actually wound up having to upgrade players because I had too many cheapos.
If an injury happens.. I think all backups would take over the starting job?Serious lack of backup quarterbacks available. One in particular I like that has a good chance to take over the starting job at some point without an injury happening.
That's why I have 5 QBs on my roster.If an injury happens.. I think all backups would take over the starting job?Serious lack of backup quarterbacks available. One in particular I like that has a good chance to take over the starting job at some point without an injury happening.
I just did another one and had 29 players. Actually like what I see, and no player over $20.http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2009/week-16.phpThe winner had no player over $27. Key players in weeks 13-16 were Tony Romo ($23), Ray Rice ($21), Jamaal Charles ($7), Desean Jackson ($24), Derrick Mason ($9), and Brent Celek ($7).I think bulk helps you get through some bye weeks at the start, but in the end you need guys consistently putting up points. I think somebody asked in the thread earlier - what did last year's top teams look like??After going through it a couple of times, my prediction is that the results will still be biased towards teams with more players, possibly all the way up to 30. More players in best ball is a huge advantage, and I actually wound up having to upgrade players because I had too many cheapos.
The second-place entry scored in those weeks on Jerome Harrison ($4), Miles Austin ($6), and Jermichael Finley ($3)
So it looks like finding good players for cheap was more important than getting studs.
I ran the numbers for the top 16 (everyone within 50 of winning it). The averages:KarmaPolice said:I just did another one and had 29 players. Actually like what I see, and no player over $20.CalBear said:http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2009/week-16.phpThe winner had no player over $27. Key players in weeks 13-16 were Tony Romo ($23), Ray Rice ($21), Jamaal Charles ($7), Desean Jackson ($24), Derrick Mason ($9), and Brent Celek ($7).KarmaPolice said:I think bulk helps you get through some bye weeks at the start, but in the end you need guys consistently putting up points. I think somebody asked in the thread earlier - what did last year's top teams look like??After going through it a couple of times, my prediction is that the results will still be biased towards teams with more players, possibly all the way up to 30. More players in best ball is a huge advantage, and I actually wound up having to upgrade players because I had too many cheapos.
The second-place entry scored in those weeks on Jerome Harrison ($4), Miles Austin ($6), and Jermichael Finley ($3)
So it looks like finding good players for cheap was more important than getting studs.
I'll tweak it a little I am sure, but I think the fact that there aren't the $1/$2 player there were last year point to having more guys. It's harder to pair AJ with a $2 guy and expect results, so is it better to get 2 $15 guys or even 3 $10 guys.I ran the numbers for the top 16 (everyone within 50 of winning it). The averages:KarmaPolice said:I just did another one and had 29 players. Actually like what I see, and no player over $20.CalBear said:http://subscribers.footballguys.com/contest/2009/week-16.phpThe winner had no player over $27. Key players in weeks 13-16 were Tony Romo ($23), Ray Rice ($21), Jamaal Charles ($7), Desean Jackson ($24), Derrick Mason ($9), and Brent Celek ($7).KarmaPolice said:I think bulk helps you get through some bye weeks at the start, but in the end you need guys consistently putting up points. I think somebody asked in the thread earlier - what did last year's top teams look like??After going through it a couple of times, my prediction is that the results will still be biased towards teams with more players, possibly all the way up to 30. More players in best ball is a huge advantage, and I actually wound up having to upgrade players because I had too many cheapos.
The second-place entry scored in those weeks on Jerome Harrison ($4), Miles Austin ($6), and Jermichael Finley ($3)
So it looks like finding good players for cheap was more important than getting studs.
QB- 2.4 players, $45.4
RB- 6.3 players, $82.2
WR- 7.0 players, $86.0
TE - 2.7 players, $23.5
K - 2.7 players, $5.2
DEF - 2.6 players, $7.6
While the top team may have had nobody over $27, there were teams that came close that had multiple studs and went with a stars and scrubs approach. Getting Jerome Harrison in weeks 14-16 helped win it all, same with Finley, as he shows up on a lot of rosters. They did not get teams to the playoffs in the first place though. Most teams did have 24 total players. There are far fewer $1 players this year, so its harder to play that strategy. I'm not sure if spending less than $20 on everyone and having 30 players is going to get you there. TE points are increased, so I would also expect an increase at spend for the top teams at that position.
This is a contest. Why do you want to share your strategy with everyone before the teams are locked?Here's my latest attempt, spent less on WR1 but took more players overall, not sure about Schaub and will probably change him.
This is a contest. Why do you want to share your strategy with everyone before the teams are locked?Here's my latest attempt, spent less on WR1 but took more players overall, not sure about Schaub and will probably change him.
This is a contest. Why do you want to share your strategy with everyone before the teams are locked?Here's my latest attempt, spent less on WR1 but took more players overall, not sure about Schaub and will probably change him.
If people want to copy me then more fool them, it's not like a draft where these players can be stolen from me.This is a contest. Why do you want to share your strategy with everyone before the teams are locked?Here's my latest attempt, spent less on WR1 but took more players overall, not sure about Schaub and will probably change him.I don't get it either.
I won't post my selections until it closes, but I agree that if others share your strategy, it isn't necessarily a bad thing here. The more people with less depth, the less depth might matter while selecting the right studs will. The more people with less studs, the more the deeper teams could make it through the first 4 weeks. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm guessing someone here has statistical analysis to refute (or support) my hypothesis, but there it is. More people sharing your strategy could actually help you to survive, as long as you don't have all of the same players. Then again, if everyone had the exact same roster, would we all just share in the prize?If people want to copy me then more fool them, it's not like a draft where these players can be stolen from me.
Why? Do you think you've unearthed a sleeper we haven't?I won't post my selections until it closes, but I agree that if others share your strategy, it isn't necessarily a bad thing here. The more people with less depth, the less depth might matter while selecting the right studs will. The more people with less studs, the more the deeper teams could make it through the first 4 weeks. Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm guessing someone here has statistical analysis to refute (or support) my hypothesis, but there it is. More people sharing your strategy could actually help you to survive, as long as you don't have all of the same players. Then again, if everyone had the exact same roster, would we all just share in the prize?If people want to copy me then more fool them, it's not like a draft where these players can be stolen from me.
to ARod or not to ARod...that is the question. I have more trouble with week 4 and week 8 from an overall perspective. I have Ryan paired with ARod right now, so I need to look up who Atlanta plays week 10.Marauder said:Anybody else having a problem with too many byes in week 10? Every time I think I settle on a roster I like, I end up with way too many players on a bye that week.
Baltimoreto ARod or not to ARod...that is the question. I have more trouble with week 4 and week 8 from an overall perspective. I have Ryan paired with ARod right now, so I need to look up who Atlanta plays week 10.Marauder said:Anybody else having a problem with too many byes in week 10? Every time I think I settle on a roster I like, I end up with way too many players on a bye that week.
QB-I'm not taking any of these. Would go with Vick if I was going with KolbRB-not interested in any here . Choice would be a must if I rostered Felix JonesWR-I'm passing on all of theseOne problem I'm having is trying not to have too many rookies on my team. As it stands now I'm carrying 6Rounding out the roster...value propositions.QB3 - Bradford (9), Edwards (9), Delhomme (7), Vick (3)RB4/5/6 - Mcgahee (8), L Johnson (7), TJones (7), F Taylor (6), Weaver (5), Bell (5), Snelling (5), Leonard (4), Choice (4), Morris (3), Moore (3), McClain (3)WR4/5/6 - JJones, Nanee, Chambers, AGonzo (7 each), Bess, Henderson (4 each), Branch, Clayton, Crayton (3 each)Personally, I would cross the Philly and NE backs off the list...thinking TJones, Moore, Vick, JJones, Henderson and Clayton might make my squad.Do you have the stones to say who you're looking at in value land besides these players? Who do you like for <$10 at the skill positions?
Unbelievably, I've devoted less than five minutes to this year's contest team. Note to self ....The deadline to submit/edit your contest entry is 11:59pm (ET) Tuesday, September 7th.Plenty of time left for 794 more iterations. :exhausted:
I'm feeling the same way.FWIW, I probably just made my fatal mistake and booted Ben off my team.I pushed it to 27 players total... And even at that I almost feel like the team is too watered down. I might have to cut back to 24-25 spots.
It was tempting for me too, I think we'll find a few were great choices for the value while others completely useless. Of course, some will be other than we expect.QB-I'm not taking any of these. Would go with Vick if I was going with KolbRB-not interested in any here . Choice would be a must if I rostered Felix JonesRounding out the roster...value propositions.
QB3 - Bradford (9), Edwards (9), Delhomme (7), Vick (3)
RB4/5/6 - Mcgahee (8), L Johnson (7), TJones (7), F Taylor (6), Weaver (5), Bell (5), Snelling (5), Leonard (4), Choice (4), Morris (3), Moore (3), McClain (3)
WR4/5/6 - JJones, Nanee, Chambers, AGonzo (7 each), Bess, Henderson (4 each), Branch, Clayton, Crayton (3 each)
Personally, I would cross the Philly and NE backs off the list...thinking TJones, Moore, Vick, JJones, Henderson and Clayton might make my squad.
Do you have the stones to say who you're looking at in value land besides these players? Who do you like for <$10 at the skill positions?
WR-I'm passing on all of these
One problem I'm having is trying not to have too many rookies on my team. As it stands now I'm carrying 6![]()
I thought I would have 25-27 as well, but now I am finding a sweet spot around 23 or 24. All of that depth is nice, but do you really want to go with 10 average WR instead of an anchor? My debate is whether to add a third TE. If I do that, I chop up my highest WR investment (S Moss right now) into 3 players, and then I'm back to 25...my head hurts.3 QB ($48)5 RB ($81)7 WR ($61)2 TE ($40)4 K ($12)2 Def ($8)I'm feeling the same way.FWIW, I probably just made my fatal mistake and booted Ben off my team.I pushed it to 27 players total... And even at that I almost feel like the team is too watered down. I might have to cut back to 24-25 spots.
It's a good question. 3 QB - $34 (probably my weakest spot, which I think is a mistake)I thought I would have 25-27 as well, but now I am finding a sweet spot around 23 or 24. All of that depth is nice, but do you really want to go with 10 average WR instead of an anchor? My debate is whether to add a third TE. If I do that, I chop up my highest WR investment (S Moss right now) into 3 players, and then I'm back to 25...my head hurts.3 QB ($48)I'm feeling the same way.FWIW, I probably just made my fatal mistake and booted Ben off my team.I pushed it to 27 players total... And even at that I almost feel like the team is too watered down. I might have to cut back to 24-25 spots.
5 RB ($81)
7 WR ($61)
2 TE ($40)
4 K ($12)
2 Def ($8)
3 obvious players this year that will be on the highest percentage of entries.
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I guess it depends if you're in the contest for the money, or the fun.The odds of winning are slim enough that for me, at least, it's about the fun. (And yes, last year I made it to the final 250).If you pull up the thread from last year, there is plenty of discussion that there were more 24 player teams in the final hunt than 20 player teams.But one of the cool things about the contest is that they tweak it every year, so running the statistical analysis for the prior year isn't exactly a given for this year.Personally, I'm still torn on how many players to have. I understand the "more players is better" line of thought, but you still have to have enough consistent producers to get you far enough along.For example, at the end of the season you're likely to see more low-cost players contributing, as they rose through the ranks because of injuries.However, if all you have are backups, you won't last long enough for them to produce for you.This is a contest. Why do you want to share your strategy with everyone before the teams are locked?
Depends. For WRs, there is a lot of junk in the >$7 range. But there's a lot of value in the $7 to $11 range. Personally, I think it's crazy to spend more than $18 to $20 on any WR.I think going for the most players is a trap. You wind up with a lot of riff-raff, IMO.
I think making the right decision at WR in the range you mentioned is crucial. Also, normally I would agree with no high-priced WRs, but my most recent team had one guy above that price. Mainly because I don't have any guys in that 18-20 range. I like cheaper options at WR, especially in best ball. So I could kind of afford that luxury. At least, in my mind.Depends. For WRs, there is a lot of junk in the >$7 range. But there's a lot of value in the $7 to $11 range. Personally, I think it's crazy to spend more than $18 to $20 on any WR.I think going for the most players is a trap. You wind up with a lot of riff-raff, IMO.
In a best-ball format, that's a recipe for disaster.Bare minimum, 18 players for me. I'll take my chances with the all-stud team.
Agree with all of this. There are a couple high priced guys in the top tier of WRs I would love to have on my team. I just can't help but see it as a big risk, though. I understand you need to take risks to win this contest. But in previous years when I've spent a lot on one WR, he's always either gotten hurt or he's underperformed enough times to kill my team.The RB thrift store bargains are almost nil, for sure. So we're left to sift through some RBBC where you hope your guy performs well. Still, I see some RBs in the $7 to $10 range that will be very valuable if you pick the right guy.I think making the right decision at WR in the range you mentioned is crucial. Also, normally I would agree with no high-priced WRs, but my most recent team had one guy above that price. Mainly because I don't have any guys in that 18-20 range. I like cheaper options at WR, especially in best ball. So I could kind of afford that luxury. At least, in my mind.Depends. For WRs, there is a lot of junk in the >$7 range. But there's a lot of value in the $7 to $11 range. Personally, I think it's crazy to spend more than $18 to $20 on any WR.I think going for the most players is a trap. You wind up with a lot of riff-raff, IMO.
There are almost zero bargains at RB, aside from that guy in the teens that everyone is gonna have, making him irrelevant. I think I only have 5 backs.