Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah I don’t get it. That scene isn’t so bad really and they also throw some humor into it to make it less “real”.
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The 100 Greatest movies of the 1990s 1. Goodfellas (10 Viewers)
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bryhamm
Footballguy
Then what the hell are you even doing in this thread?
kupcho1
Footballguy
The 90s must be rivaling the 70s in your eyes if none of these movies is in your top 10.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I came for all the madonna and woody allen picks
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TripItUp
Footballguy
Arguably the greatest action movie of all time.
Trip's Official Ruling: Slightly Underranked (Makes my top 10 for the decade)
TripItUp
Footballguy
One of those movies that symbolizes the decade for me.
Trip's Official Ruling: Appropriately Ranked
TripItUp
Footballguy
I'm sure Timmy will have a few "WTF selections" coming up(please no more ****ing animated) but we are getting to the point of the countdown where it's going to really come down to personal preference.
Also, did I mention how underappreciated Last of the Mohicans and Seven were in this list?
Also, did I mention how underappreciated Last of the Mohicans and Seven were in this list?
General Malaise
Footballguy
I'd also have Trainspotting inside my top 20. Fantastic film.
It's kept me off heroin for 30 years. I've tried almost every other drug at least once but I'll never ever never touch this one.
It's kept me off heroin for 30 years. I've tried almost every other drug at least once but I'll never ever never touch this one.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
The whole countdown isn't personal preference?I'm sure Timmy will have a few "WTF selections" coming up(please no more ****ing animated) but we are getting to the point of the countdown where it's going to really come down to personal preference.
Also, did I mention how underappreciated Last of the Mohicans and Seven were in this list?
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Wow, it was only 3 years ago that @Ilov80s and I did ours. I finally found the page that had my top 100 movies listed. There would be a little movement on mine like Lebowski moving up farther, but I'd still stand by it for the most part. Cable Guy at #11 and outside my top 5 was the biggest whiff. 
General Malaise
Footballguy
Cable Guy is my favorite Jim Carey movie. 
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Cable Guy is my favorite Jim Carey movie.
No bag needed, GB.I have been listening to episodes of the Films to Be Buried With podcast. The last silly question is what DVD would you take to heaven with you to watch for your movie night. A bit of the premise is that you assume that there are already enough copies of Godfather and all the obvious greats. The first movie that popped in my head for my answer the first time I heard the question was The Cable Guy.
Where the **** did 3 years just go?!!Wow, it was only 3 years ago that @Ilov80s and I did ours. I finally found the page that had my top 100 movies listed. There would be a little movement on mine like Lebowski moving up farther, but I'd still stand by it for the most part. Cable Guy at #11 and outside my top 5 was the biggest whiff.
It’s close to mine. Definitely top 5.Cable Guy is my favorite Jim Carey movie.
Brilliant role.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I don't know, but I was laughing at your reactions while I was going through the thread looking for my list.Where the **** did 3 years just go?!!Wow, it was only 3 years ago that @Ilov80s and I did ours. I finally found the page that had my top 100 movies listed. There would be a little movement on mine like Lebowski moving up farther, but I'd still stand by it for the most part. Cable Guy at #11 and outside my top 5 was the biggest whiff.
General Malaise
Footballguy
It’s close to mine. Definitely top 5.Cable Guy is my favorite Jim Carey movie.
Brilliant role.
I was never a big Jim Carey fan (to me he was always doing an impersonation of Jerry Lewis) but this movie hit HBO in '96 when I was living alone and working on the road as a young pup out of college. It was always on HBO. Always.
And I just loved it. Prime example of a dark comedy done right.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
reactionCable Guy is my favorite Jim Carey movie.
General Malaise
Footballguy
reactionCable Guy is my favorite Jim Carey movie.
Oh look! He's spitting out water! Cue the laugh track!
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Desperately Seeking Susan still out there.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Nah, that seems to hip for Tim. Evita will be the pick.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
and **** tracy
Hastur
Footballguy
If Grosse Point Blank doesn't make this list, Imma go nuts.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
never heard of it
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’ve seen it but don’t remember Madonna in it. It’s been a long time though.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Thank you!
I'll watch any time I see it on the TV.
And it won an Academy Award for Best Picture. BUT GM, WINNING AN OSCAR DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING!!!!11111
Get out of here. It was a very good movie then and it is very good today. Yes, it's cringey. Yes, it makes viewers uncomfortable. Best. Picture.
Mic drop.
Some of the reaction to American Beauty is a bit weird, as if we are supposed to feel bad for loving a film where the main character is a creep.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Who said you are supposed to feel bad about loving a movie? We are just bsing and expressing opinions, no need to take it too seriously.Thank you!
I'll watch any time I see it on the TV.
And it won an Academy Award for Best Picture. BUT GM, WINNING AN OSCAR DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING!!!!11111
Get out of here. It was a very good movie then and it is very good today. Yes, it's cringey. Yes, it makes viewers uncomfortable. Best. Picture.
Mic drop.
Some of the reaction to American Beauty is a bit weird, as if we are supposed to feel bad for loving a film where the main character is a creep.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
90s cinema is serious business.Who said you are supposed to feel bad about loving a movie? We are just bsing and expressing opinions, no need to take it too seriously.Thank you!
I'll watch any time I see it on the TV.
And it won an Academy Award for Best Picture. BUT GM, WINNING AN OSCAR DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING!!!!11111
Get out of here. It was a very good movie then and it is very good today. Yes, it's cringey. Yes, it makes viewers uncomfortable. Best. Picture.
Mic drop.
Some of the reaction to American Beauty is a bit weird, as if we are supposed to feel bad for loving a film where the main character is a creep.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Let me ask this:
How come a movie like To Die For, where Nicole Kidman ****s a high school kid, is met with indifference but American Beauty brings out the cringe police?
I just watched something called Black Licorice. It's awful, avoid it like a lice infested movie theater seat. But the entire movie is a love affair between a woman in her late 20s and a 15 year old kid.
Why is that fine but American Beauty crosses a line? Make that make sense.
How come a movie like To Die For, where Nicole Kidman ****s a high school kid, is met with indifference but American Beauty brings out the cringe police?
I just watched something called Black Licorice. It's awful, avoid it like a lice infested movie theater seat. But the entire movie is a love affair between a woman in her late 20s and a 15 year old kid.
Why is that fine but American Beauty crosses a line? Make that make sense.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
It's a little bit of hypocrisy I know but EVERY guy has had that fantasy. I also think most of us look at it as an older man taking advantage of a woman and the reverse is just a guy doing what he needs to get down.
Hastur
Footballguy
That is pretty easy to explain. It's called a 'double standard'. Duh.
General Malaise
Footballguy
How do you know girls don't have that same fantasy?
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I don't but thats also not what I said.
General Malaise
Footballguy
You didn't need to. You implied it.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
at "cringe police". - I didn't have To Die For on my Top 100 either
- To my knowledge that movie doesn't feature a topless underage actress and an actor accused of sexual misconduct in real life as a character lusting after a HS student in it. I specifically posted that added to my feelings on the movie.
- I haven't seen To Die For since it came out, so for all I know I could have a similar reaction. American Beauty I watched much more recently so it is fresh in my memory.
- 0 clue what Black Licorice is, so again I have no context for what you speak of
- In general, right or wrong, society frowns more on the older male/young girl power dynamic when that happens.
- My beef with the end is my interpretation of how the relationship is framed throughout the movie. Other movies that I could think of have a more negative outlook on the character and are tonally different. Again, JMO and that is the beauty of art and how people view and interpret things differently. We all bring our individual baggage to the movies.
This isn't just an American Beauty thing. I don't like some 80s movies near as much now for similar reasons.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
you think I did but let's not get this locked and leave it there
Ilov80s
Footballguy
He meant Licorice Pizza. One difference there is it’s the 15 year old who wants a relationship with the adult. The adult is friends with him but she’s not trying to have a romantic relationship. Also like most things in movies the answer is just in how it’s filmed and portrayed. Just like we can watch a movie like Final Destination where a dozen people die horrible deaths and laugh through it all and then another movie has a single character die in an accident and it’s soul crushing.
- I didn't have To Die For on my Top 100 either
- To my knowledge that movie doesn't feature a topless underage actress and an actor accused of sexual misconduct in real life as a character lusting after a HS student in it. I specifically posted that added to my feelings on the movie.
- I haven't seen To Die For since it came out, so for all I know I could have a similar reaction. American Beauty I watched much more recently so it is fresh in my memory.
- 0 clue what Black Licorice is, so again I have no context for what you speak of
- In general, right or wrong, society frowns more on the older male/young girl power dynamic when that happens.
- My beef with the end is my interpretation of how the relationship is framed throughout the movie. Other movies that I could think of have a more negative outlook on the character and are tonally different. Again, JMO and that is the beauty of art and how people view and interpret things differently. We all bring our individual baggage to the movies.
This isn't just an American Beauty thing. I don't like some 80s movies near as much now for similar reasons.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Absolutely not. You said "EVERY GUY HAS THIS FANTASY". Your words.
I pushed back with a question. "How do you know girls don't have the same fantasy?"
Instead of answering, you brought us here, worried the thread will get locked. Ridiculous.
General Malaise
Footballguy
He meant Licorice Pizza. One difference there is it’s the 15 year old who wants a relationship with the adult. She is friends with him but she’s not trying to have a romantic relationship. Also like most things in movies the answer is just in how it’s filmed and portrayed. Just like we can watch a movie like Final Destination where a dozen people die horrible deaths and laugh through it all and then another movie has a single character die in an accident and it’s soul crushing.
- I didn't have To Die For on my Top 100 either
- To my knowledge that movie doesn't feature a topless underage actress and an actor accused of sexual misconduct in real life as a character lusting after a HS student in it. I specifically posted that added to my feelings on the movie.
- I haven't seen To Die For since it came out, so for all I know I could have a similar reaction. American Beauty I watched much more recently so it is fresh in my memory.
- 0 clue what Black Licorice is, so again I have no context for what you speak of
- In general, right or wrong, society frowns more on the older male/young girl power dynamic when that happens.
- My beef with the end is my interpretation of how the relationship is framed throughout the movie. Other movies that I could think of have a more negative outlook on the character and are tonally different. Again, JMO and that is the beauty of art and how people view and interpret things differently. We all bring our individual baggage to the movies.
This isn't just an American Beauty thing. I don't like some 80s movies near as much now for similar reasons.
Thanks for the clarification on the title of the movie. And the adult woman agrees to a date with the teen boy. It's in the first 15 minutes of the film.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
yes but whether or not girls have that fantasy (and I do think that are a lot of older women that do fantazie of being with younger men) has absolutely nothing to do with why a lot of guys and society in general view it differently.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Doh! That make more sense. I've also said elsewhere that is my least favorite PTA, and i found that dynamic odd. As you said, it is not as sexually charged either.He meant Licorice Pizza. One difference there is it’s the 15 year old who wants a relationship with the adult. The adult is friends with him but she’s not trying to have a romantic relationship. Also like most things in movies the answer is just in how it’s filmed and portrayed. Just like we can watch a movie like Final Destination where a dozen people die horrible deaths and laugh through it all and then another movie has a single character die in an accident and it’s soul crushing.
- I didn't have To Die For on my Top 100 either
- To my knowledge that movie doesn't feature a topless underage actress and an actor accused of sexual misconduct in real life as a character lusting after a HS student in it. I specifically posted that added to my feelings on the movie.
- I haven't seen To Die For since it came out, so for all I know I could have a similar reaction. American Beauty I watched much more recently so it is fresh in my memory.
- 0 clue what Black Licorice is, so again I have no context for what you speak of
- In general, right or wrong, society frowns more on the older male/young girl power dynamic when that happens.
- My beef with the end is my interpretation of how the relationship is framed throughout the movie. Other movies that I could think of have a more negative outlook on the character and are tonally different. Again, JMO and that is the beauty of art and how people view and interpret things differently. We all bring our individual baggage to the movies.
This isn't just an American Beauty thing. I don't like some 80s movies near as much now for similar reasons.
General Malaise
Footballguy
- I didn't have To Die For on my Top 100 either
- To my knowledge that movie doesn't feature a topless underage actress and an actor accused of sexual misconduct in real life as a character lusting after a HS student in it. I specifically posted that added to my feelings on the movie.
- I haven't seen To Die For since it came out, so for all I know I could have a similar reaction. American Beauty I watched much more recently so it is fresh in my memory.
- 0 clue what Black Licorice is, so again I have no context for what you speak of
- In general, right or wrong, society frowns more on the older male/young girl power dynamic when that happens.
- My beef with the end is my interpretation of how the relationship is framed throughout the movie. Other movies that I could think of have a more negative outlook on the character and are tonally different. Again, JMO and that is the beauty of art and how people view and interpret things differently. We all bring our individual baggage to the movies.
This isn't just an American Beauty thing. I don't like some 80s movies near as much now for similar reasons.
To Die For is on this list. In this thread. That's why I mentioned it in here.
But thank you for answering the question. In your opinion, older male/younger female = cringe. But older female/younger male = alright alright alright.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
it's likely prosecuted at the same level but it's not seen as the same.
McBokonon
Footballguy
Went with a group to the Beehive in Pittsburgh (Oakland, not South Side) to watch Trainspotting when it came out. We were all high as ****. My buddy Dave (RIP) was sitting next to me whispering during the previews, offering up our opinions on the coming attractions. Then we’re quiet for a while before I say “this one looks great!” He agreed. After a couple minutes, he said “Dude, I think this is the movie.”
Anyway, it was great, but the way the movie just sort of started with the running and the music and the voiceover confused our stoned little brains at first.
Anyway, it was great, but the way the movie just sort of started with the running and the music and the voiceover confused our stoned little brains at first.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Doh! That make more sense. I've also said elsewhere that is my least favorite PTA, and i found that dynamic odd. As you said, it is not as sexually charged either.He meant Licorice Pizza. One difference there is it’s the 15 year old who wants a relationship with the adult. The adult is friends with him but she’s not trying to have a romantic relationship. Also like most things in movies the answer is just in how it’s filmed and portrayed. Just like we can watch a movie like Final Destination where a dozen people die horrible deaths and laugh through it all and then another movie has a single character die in an accident and it’s soul crushing.
- I didn't have To Die For on my Top 100 either
- To my knowledge that movie doesn't feature a topless underage actress and an actor accused of sexual misconduct in real life as a character lusting after a HS student in it. I specifically posted that added to my feelings on the movie.
- I haven't seen To Die For since it came out, so for all I know I could have a similar reaction. American Beauty I watched much more recently so it is fresh in my memory.
- 0 clue what Black Licorice is, so again I have no context for what you speak of
- In general, right or wrong, society frowns more on the older male/young girl power dynamic when that happens.
- My beef with the end is my interpretation of how the relationship is framed throughout the movie. Other movies that I could think of have a more negative outlook on the character and are tonally different. Again, JMO and that is the beauty of art and how people view and interpret things differently. We all bring our individual baggage to the movies.
This isn't just an American Beauty thing. I don't like some 80s movies near as much now for similar reasons.
She shows him her boobs!!!!! Willingly!
It is an odd movie but it's absolutely about an adult woman wanting a relationship with a child.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Please don't put words in my mouth. No, that 5th bullet point was more a general statement on why i dont think as many people would react the same to the two movies. As i said above i found the dynamic in Licorice Pizza weird and a reason i didn't click with that movie (can we at least agree it wasn't as overtly sexual too?) and i honestly don't remember To Die For at a besides a general memory of liking it at the time.
- I didn't have To Die For on my Top 100 either
- To my knowledge that movie doesn't feature a topless underage actress and an actor accused of sexual misconduct in real life as a character lusting after a HS student in it. I specifically posted that added to my feelings on the movie.
- I haven't seen To Die For since it came out, so for all I know I could have a similar reaction. American Beauty I watched much more recently so it is fresh in my memory.
- 0 clue what Black Licorice is, so again I have no context for what you speak of
- In general, right or wrong, society frowns more on the older male/young girl power dynamic when that happens.
- My beef with the end is my interpretation of how the relationship is framed throughout the movie. Other movies that I could think of have a more negative outlook on the character and are tonally different. Again, JMO and that is the beauty of art and how people view and interpret things differently. We all bring our individual baggage to the movies.
This isn't just an American Beauty thing. I don't like some 80s movies near as much now for similar reasons.
To Die For is on this list. In this thread. That's why I mentioned it in here.
But thank you for answering the question. In your opinion, older male/younger female = cringe. But older female/younger male = alright alright alright.
In my opinion all adult/underage dating and sexual relationships are cringe. As 80s said, it also greatly depends on how the film is shot and how i personally interpret it. I was also very clear it wasnt only that dynamic in the movie i am reacting to watching it 20+ years later.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Remember Indiana Jones and the girl student who had it out for Harrison Ford?
Lolita? You know that one?
Carried Away with Dennis Hopper and a 17 year old Amy Locane?
Hollywood is lousy with films about underage girls lusting after older men.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
ok? not really sure why you are trying to argue a non sequitur
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Dude, i didnt like the movie, and we are about to go down and even weirder rabbit hole debating what is more sexual in a movie - flashing boobs to a minor or masturbating while dreaming of diddling one.Doh! That make more sense. I've also said elsewhere that is my least favorite PTA, and i found that dynamic odd. As you said, it is not as sexually charged either.He meant Licorice Pizza. One difference there is it’s the 15 year old who wants a relationship with the adult. The adult is friends with him but she’s not trying to have a romantic relationship. Also like most things in movies the answer is just in how it’s filmed and portrayed. Just like we can watch a movie like Final Destination where a dozen people die horrible deaths and laugh through it all and then another movie has a single character die in an accident and it’s soul crushing.
- I didn't have To Die For on my Top 100 either
- To my knowledge that movie doesn't feature a topless underage actress and an actor accused of sexual misconduct in real life as a character lusting after a HS student in it. I specifically posted that added to my feelings on the movie.
- I haven't seen To Die For since it came out, so for all I know I could have a similar reaction. American Beauty I watched much more recently so it is fresh in my memory.
- 0 clue what Black Licorice is, so again I have no context for what you speak of
- In general, right or wrong, society frowns more on the older male/young girl power dynamic when that happens.
- My beef with the end is my interpretation of how the relationship is framed throughout the movie. Other movies that I could think of have a more negative outlook on the character and are tonally different. Again, JMO and that is the beauty of art and how people view and interpret things differently. We all bring our individual baggage to the movies.
This isn't just an American Beauty thing. I don't like some 80s movies near as much now for similar reasons.
She shows him her boobs!!!!! Willingly!
It is an odd movie but it's absolutely about an adult woman wanting a relationship with a child.
I feel you and others are getting defensive as though i think you guys are weird pervs for liking a movie i don't. That was never my intention nor do i believe i implied that. It is just my opinion.
I absolutely love horror movies and watch a ton of depraved ****. It speaks nothing of who i am, so i pass 0 judgement on others on that front.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Also American Beauty is definitely not romantic, so that is another mark against it for me.
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