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The 100 Greatest movies of the 1990s 11. Unforgiven (35 Viewers)

I’m also still hoping for Hackers but I’m losing hope
Hackers showing up in the top 20 would be the worst ranking in this entire thread, by far.
not

80. Se7en
or
69. Jurassic Park
?
Yes. Hackers in the top 20 would be easily worse than either of those.
Would it ve a worse offense than me not ranking Raiders?
Wait, you didn't rank Raiders????!!!!!
 
Got it. I will start listing movies I don't like to impress the FFA for the next one. ;)
I guess the issue is that you have bad taste when it comes to that movie, not that you need to make things up to impress the audience.
Touche

I could see the grumbling more if I said I hated it or it was terrible. It's just 100-200 range for me. I but I get it, I :loco: when people say they don't like Back to the Future or Karate Kid.
 
Got it. I will start listing movies I don't like to impress the FFA for the next one. ;)
I guess the issue is that you have bad taste when it comes to that movie, not that you need to make things up to impress the audience.
Touche

I could see the grumbling more if I said I hated it or it was terrible. It's just 100-200 range for me. I but I get it, I :loco: when people say they don't like Back to the Future or Karate Kid.
I’m just giving you a hard time - it obviously doesn’t afffect my life.
 
Got it. I will start listing movies I don't like to impress the FFA for the next one. ;)
I guess the issue is that you have bad taste when it comes to that movie, not that you need to make things up to impress the audience.
Touche

I could see the grumbling more if I said I hated it or it was terrible. It's just 100-200 range for me. I but I get it, I :loco: when people say they don't like Back to the Future or Karate Kid.
I’m just giving you a hard time - it obviously doesn’t afffect my life.
I realize that. I just find which movies get those strongest reactions interesting.
 
Wrong decade but watched Stand By Me with my 9 year old twins. That movie is just amazing. Showed it to my older boys a decade ago and they loved it too. Just a terrific adventure film for young lads and I never get tired of watch it.

Any other recs in that genre? Film guys of FBG?
 
Got it. I will start listing movies I don't like to impress the FFA for the next one. ;)
I guess the issue is that you have bad taste when it comes to that movie, not that you need to make things up to impress the audience.
Touche

I could see the grumbling more if I said I hated it or it was terrible. It's just 100-200 range for me. I but I get it, I :loco: when people say they don't like Back to the Future or Karate Kid.
I’ve never seen Karate Kid. Don’t care for inspirational sports movies.
 
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Wrong decade but watched Stand By Me with my 9 year old twins. That movie is just amazing. Showed it to my older boys a decade ago and they loved it too. Just a terrific adventure film for young lads and I never get tired of watch it.

Any other recs in that genre? Film guys of FBG?
Super 8
October Sky
The Iron Giant (careful though, it's animated)
 
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Wrong decade but watched Stand By Me with my 9 year old twins. That movie is just amazing. Showed it to my older boys a decade ago and they loved it too. Just a terrific adventure film for young lads and I never get tired of watch it.

Any other recs in that genre? Film guys of FBG?
Highly recommend The Cure.

Very poignant latter day Huck Finn type movie. No Robert Smith cameo though.
 
Wrong decade but watched Stand By Me with my 9 year old twins. That movie is just amazing. Showed it to my older boys a decade ago and they loved it too. Just a terrific adventure film for young lads and I never get tired of watch it.

Any other recs in that genre? Film guys of FBG?
Super 8
October Sky
The Iron Giant (careful though, it's animated)

Thanks!

Animated is fine. I just didn't watch many of them in the 90s when i wasn't a kid and didn't have kids. :shrug:
 
Wrong decade but watched Stand By Me with my 9 year old twins. That movie is just amazing. Showed it to my older boys a decade ago and they loved it too. Just a terrific adventure film for young lads and I never get tired of watch it.

Any other recs in that genre? Film guys of FBG?
Super 8
October Sky
The Iron Giant (careful though, it's animated)

Thanks!

Animated is fine. I just didn't watch many of them in the 90s when i wasn't a kid and didn't have kids. :shrug:
I know. Just teasing.
 
Here's my final theory about Raiders that just ties into my movie tastes overall - I have much less tolerance for f/x than most people. I like Raiders and have watched it a few times in the last 5 years or so, but I don't think it's controversial to say that it's a bit campy at times and the f/x are rough at the end. Very few of any of my lists have special f/x in them, and when they do there is a lot of practical work as well. I don't watch Ghostbusters as much as I used to. When my daughter and I just watched Jurassic Park this year I could feel myself getting a bit itchy in some spots and not enjoying it quite as much. Those are 2 movies I adore and have a long history with. If I am rewatching movies it more likely it's corny comedy or a drama from the 80s. The movies I rewatch more when I reach for 80s movies are Karate Kid, Great Outdoors, The Burbs, and action will be Die Hard or Beverly Hills Cop type of movies. I notice myself watching Ghostbusters, Last Starfighter, and Robocops of the world less and less.
 
Here's my final theory about Raiders that just ties into my movie tastes overall - I have much less tolerance for f/x than most people. I like Raiders and have watched it a few times in the last 5 years or so, but I don't think it's controversial to say that it's a bit campy at times and the f/x are rough at the end. Very few of any of my lists have special f/x in them, and when they do there is a lot of practical work as well. I don't watch Ghostbusters as much as I used to. When my daughter and I just watched Jurassic Park this year I could feel myself getting a bit itchy in some spots and not enjoying it quite as much. Those are 2 movies I adore and have a long history with. If I am rewatching movies it more likely it's corny comedy or a drama from the 80s. The movies I rewatch more when I reach for 80s movies are Karate Kid, Great Outdoors, The Burbs, and action will be Die Hard or Beverly Hills Cop type of movies. I notice myself watching Ghostbusters, Last Starfighter, and Robocops of the world less and less.
I’d say Back to the Future had as much if not more special effects than Raiders.
 
Here's my final theory about Raiders that just ties into my movie tastes overall - I have much less tolerance for f/x than most people. I like Raiders and have watched it a few times in the last 5 years or so, but I don't think it's controversial to say that it's a bit campy at times and the f/x are rough at the end. Very few of any of my lists have special f/x in them, and when they do there is a lot of practical work as well. I don't watch Ghostbusters as much as I used to. When my daughter and I just watched Jurassic Park this year I could feel myself getting a bit itchy in some spots and not enjoying it quite as much. Those are 2 movies I adore and have a long history with. If I am rewatching movies it more likely it's corny comedy or a drama from the 80s. The movies I rewatch more when I reach for 80s movies are Karate Kid, Great Outdoors, The Burbs, and action will be Die Hard or Beverly Hills Cop type of movies. I notice myself watching Ghostbusters, Last Starfighter, and Robocops of the world less and less.
I’d say Back to the Future had as much if not more special effects than Raiders.
I'd agree, the time travel f/x are clunky as are the lightning, Marty's disappearing hands, and other stuff. I would argue that there isn't as many sustained shots of the special effects in BttF, but we could be nitpicking here. The end of Raiders looks like The Ten Commandments to me.

I also have a day 1 obsessive love affair with Back to the Future and have seen it 100s of times. That movie is the spark for my love of movies. Raiders I watched for the first time in adulthood. Time travel vs archeology in general was always a much stronger pull as well.
 
Here's my final theory about Raiders that just ties into my movie tastes overall - I have much less tolerance for f/x than most people. I like Raiders and have watched it a few times in the last 5 years or so, but I don't think it's controversial to say that it's a bit campy at times and the f/x are rough at the end. Very few of any of my lists have special f/x in them, and when they do there is a lot of practical work as well. I don't watch Ghostbusters as much as I used to. When my daughter and I just watched Jurassic Park this year I could feel myself getting a bit itchy in some spots and not enjoying it quite as much. Those are 2 movies I adore and have a long history with. If I am rewatching movies it more likely it's corny comedy or a drama from the 80s. The movies I rewatch more when I reach for 80s movies are Karate Kid, Great Outdoors, The Burbs, and action will be Die Hard or Beverly Hills Cop type of movies. I notice myself watching Ghostbusters, Last Starfighter, and Robocops of the world less and less.
I'm of two minds about this.

On one hand I agree. This past week I rewatched both Jurassic Park and The Phantom Menace. Jurassic Park is still great, TPM is still pretty bad. But more importantly they both just felt...old; especially TPM. The mix of practical and CGI effects in JP were actually more immersive than the purely CGI of TPM.

On the other hand, these movies have for me moved from a sense of amazement to endearment. Knowing what they had to do to get those special effects, given the technology of the time enables them to still hold my heart. I remember the first computer I bought in 1995 was a FOUR THOUSAND DOLLAR Gateway and had about as much power as my dress shirts. So I'm still appreciative if the artistry and creativity needed to pull off those shows.

On Disney+ there's a documentary on ILM called, appropriately, Light & Magic. It's not as interesting when they focus on the people (just because they spend TOO much time) but when they show how they build the models, created the computer technology, etc. it's quite remarkable. And yes, there's a segment on Raiders that shows how groundbreaking it was at the time.
 
Here's my final theory about Raiders that just ties into my movie tastes overall - I have much less tolerance for f/x than most people. I like Raiders and have watched it a few times in the last 5 years or so, but I don't think it's controversial to say that it's a bit campy at times and the f/x are rough at the end. Very few of any of my lists have special f/x in them, and when they do there is a lot of practical work as well. I don't watch Ghostbusters as much as I used to. When my daughter and I just watched Jurassic Park this year I could feel myself getting a bit itchy in some spots and not enjoying it quite as much. Those are 2 movies I adore and have a long history with. If I am rewatching movies it more likely it's corny comedy or a drama from the 80s. The movies I rewatch more when I reach for 80s movies are Karate Kid, Great Outdoors, The Burbs, and action will be Die Hard or Beverly Hills Cop type of movies. I notice myself watching Ghostbusters, Last Starfighter, and Robocops of the world less and less.
Solid theory

But…..The Burbs? Really?
 
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Here's my final theory about Raiders that just ties into my movie tastes overall - I have much less tolerance for f/x than most people. I like Raiders and have watched it a few times in the last 5 years or so, but I don't think it's controversial to say that it's a bit campy at times and the f/x are rough at the end. Very few of any of my lists have special f/x in them, and when they do there is a lot of practical work as well. I don't watch Ghostbusters as much as I used to. When my daughter and I just watched Jurassic Park this year I could feel myself getting a bit itchy in some spots and not enjoying it quite as much. Those are 2 movies I adore and have a long history with. If I am rewatching movies it more likely it's corny comedy or a drama from the 80s. The movies I rewatch more when I reach for 80s movies are Karate Kid, Great Outdoors, The Burbs, and action will be Die Hard or Beverly Hills Cop type of movies. I notice myself watching Ghostbusters, Last Starfighter, and Robocops of the world less and less.
Solid theory

But…..The Burbs? Really?
Yes, love The Burbs. It's not one I will defend as being great, but it was always one of those we had around the house and I watched a lot with my friends for whatever reason.
 
Here's my final theory about Raiders that just ties into my movie tastes overall - I have much less tolerance for f/x than most people. I like Raiders and have watched it a few times in the last 5 years or so, but I don't think it's controversial to say that it's a bit campy at times and the f/x are rough at the end. Very few of any of my lists have special f/x in them, and when they do there is a lot of practical work as well. I don't watch Ghostbusters as much as I used to. When my daughter and I just watched Jurassic Park this year I could feel myself getting a bit itchy in some spots and not enjoying it quite as much. Those are 2 movies I adore and have a long history with. If I am rewatching movies it more likely it's corny comedy or a drama from the 80s. The movies I rewatch more when I reach for 80s movies are Karate Kid, Great Outdoors, The Burbs, and action will be Die Hard or Beverly Hills Cop type of movies. I notice myself watching Ghostbusters, Last Starfighter, and Robocops of the world less and less.
I'm of two minds about this.

On one hand I agree. This past week I rewatched both Jurassic Park and The Phantom Menace. Jurassic Park is still great, TPM is still pretty bad. But more importantly they both just felt...old; especially TPM. The mix of practical and CGI effects in JP were actually more immersive than the purely CGI of TPM.

On the other hand, these movies have for me moved from a sense of amazement to endearment. Knowing what they had to do to get those special effects, given the technology of the time enables them to still hold my heart. I remember the first computer I bought in 1995 was a FOUR THOUSAND DOLLAR Gateway and had about as much power as my dress shirts. So I'm still appreciative if the artistry and creativity needed to pull off those shows.

On Disney+ there's a documentary on ILM called, appropriately, Light & Magic. It's not as interesting when they focus on the people (just because they spend TOO much time) but when they show how they build the models, created the computer technology, etc. it's quite remarkable. And yes, there's a segment on Raiders that shows how groundbreaking it was at the time.
See, I agree on all that, which is why Raiders is rising in my rankings over the years and the reason I have rewatched it a few times recently. It's a blast to watch. I have also watched that documentary and loved that as well. I thought about watching that with my kid as well.

The Phantom Menace is terrible. It almost makes me wish I didn't suggest watching these movies with my daughter. She has a blast with them, which helps a lot. I realize those movies weren't made for me now.
 
16. The Matrix (1999)

Directed by: The Wachowskis

Starring: Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving

Synopsis:
A computer hacker discovers that humanity is trapped in a simulated reality.

There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.- Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus

What Bladerunner was for the 1980s, The Matrix was for the late 90s: a science fiction film so brimming with new ideas and visual effects that it basically changed cinematic history. In that sense it may be one of the most important films on this list. However, as always, I rank it in terms of entertainment value. When I first saw it I didn’t consider the impact it would have. I watched it, was absorbed in the plot, the characters, the martial arts and use of different speed cinematography, and I thought, “that’s really cool.” Pretty much feel the same now.
 
The Matrix is still awesome but it shares the same Achilles heel as Inception when it comes to rewatches...

The first time, the copious amount of exposition is needed to peel the onion of what's happening. For subsequent viewings it becomes a bit of a drag.
 
The Matrix is still awesome but it shares the same Achilles heel as Inception when it comes to rewatches...

The first time, the copious amount of exposition is needed to peel the onion of what's happening. For subsequent viewings it becomes a bit of a drag.
It's mostly pretty cool exposition though.
Some. When emo Neo is moping around the Nebuchadnezzar it's not very fun.
 
The Matrix was all kinds of awesome when seen in the theatres the first time and it has one of the best closing shots and the perfect end of movie music to add the goosebumps. Can still watch it even though I know the back story of the universe. It sucks the W sibs had no idea how to play the mythos out properly. Still, Matrix 1 is thought provoking and entertaining and is a classic, imo.
 
This one feels very appropriately ranked. I was in high school when it came and it it was a big deal where classmates and friends' dads were talking about it.

I actually liked Matrix: Reloaded because I was taking some philosophy and poli sci classes in college when it came out and touched on a lot of the ideas I was already studying.
 
16. The Matrix (1999)

Directed by: The Wachowskis

Starring: Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving

Synopsis:
A computer hacker discovers that humanity is trapped in a simulated reality.

There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.- Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus

What Bladerunner was for the 1980s, The Matrix was for the late 90s: a science fiction film so brimming with new ideas and visual effects that it basically changed cinematic history. In that sense it may be one of the most important films on this list. However, as always, I rank it in terms of entertainment value. When I first saw it I didn’t consider the impact it would have. I watched it, was absorbed in the plot, the characters, the martial arts and use of different speed cinematography, and I thought, “that’s really cool.” Pretty much feel the same now.
I remember seeing this the first time and just being blown away. The plot, the acting, the cinematography, all of it was just WOW! Like when I was a kid and saw Star Wars the first time. To Andy's point, rewatches lose a lot of the initial luster but still a great flick.

Only second to my disappoint with George R.R. Martin not finishing the Song of Fire & Ice series was what the crazy Wachowskis did to the sequels.
 
16. The Matrix (1999)

Directed by: The Wachowskis

Starring: Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving

Synopsis:
A computer hacker discovers that humanity is trapped in a simulated reality.

There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.- Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus

What Bladerunner was for the 1980s, The Matrix was for the late 90s: a science fiction film so brimming with new ideas and visual effects that it basically changed cinematic history. In that sense it may be one of the most important films on this list. However, as always, I rank it in terms of entertainment value. When I first saw it I didn’t consider the impact it would have. I watched it, was absorbed in the plot, the characters, the martial arts and use of different speed cinematography, and I thought, “that’s really cool.” Pretty much feel the same now.
I remember seeing this the first time and just being blown away. The plot, the acting, the cinematography, all of it was just WOW! Like when I was a kid and saw Star Wars the first time. To Andy's point, rewatches lose a lot of the initial luster but still a great flick.

Only second to my disappoint with George R.R. Martin not finishing the Song of Fire & Ice series was what the crazy Wachowskis did to the sequels.
I was a teenager so I rewatched the first one copiously when it came out on DVD.
 
I've said it many times around here but I still maintain there's one really great movie buried in the two Matrix sequels.

The Andy Dufresne cut would excise:
1. The Rave (obviously) - it's not just the dancing that's an issue but Morpheus' pep talk is terrible and the Neo/Trinity to love scene...eesh.

2. The Kid - IIRC he was kind of important in the video game and they tried to cross over the two media sources. It didn't work, he's annoying as hell.

3. Persephone - as sexy as Bellucci is her "Vampire" stealing a kiss scene is just dumb. As is the two guys she shoots that are supposed to be "werewolves". They try to tie back to what The Oracle is alluding to earlier - it doesn't work. Just skip to her freezing the Keymaster

3. The forced love triangle with Morpheus, Niobe, and Lock. In fact, remove everything you possibly can with Lock. He's terrible.

4. Excise the Club Hel fight scene. Who gives a **** if they're upside down?

5. Remove Zee entirely. Her bitching at Link is tiresome and her battle scenes are totally unnecessary.

There's more, but that's of the to of my head.
 
I've said it many times around here but I still maintain there's one really great movie buried in the two Matrix sequels.

The Andy Dufresne cut would excise:
1. The Rave (obviously) - it's not just the dancing that's an issue but Morpheus' pep talk is terrible and the Neo/Trinity to love scene...eesh.

2. The Kid - IIRC he was kind of important in the video game and they tried to cross over the two media sources. It didn't work, he's annoying as hell.

3. Persephone - as sexy as Bellucci is her "Vampire" stealing a kiss scene is just dumb. As is the two guys she shoots that are supposed to be "werewolves". They try to tie back to what The Oracle is alluding to earlier - it doesn't work. Just skip to her freezing the Keymaster

3. The forced love triangle with Morpheus, Niobe, and Lock. In fact, remove everything you possibly can with Lock. He's terrible.

4. Excise the Club Hel fight scene. Who gives a **** if they're upside down?

5. Remove Zee entirely. Her bitching at Link is tiresome and her battle scenes are totally unnecessary.

There's more, but that's of the to of my head.
I can shorten it even more...


Neo flies away at the end of Matrix 1.

end.
 
Everything was interesting with the 1st movie because you were looking at everything through the lens of just finding out what the Matrix was.

There was no mind-blowing realization in the other movies, so they were reliant on story and character and emotional investment. How can one be emotionally invested when the lead character has no emotions?

This was a movie that didn't need sequels.

I guess the movie doesn't hold up to repeated viewing once you know the twist, but isn't that every surprise?

It's like rewatching a comedy special, and saying it wasn't funny the 5th time cuz you knew the jokes. :confused:
 
I tried to watch it for the first time like 15 years ago and didn't make it 20 minutes. I should probably try it again.
Every time I want to make fun of a take like this I remind myself that I'm not really much of a fan of Lawrence of Arabia, The Godfather, and Goodfellas...so I don't. :lol:

This is one I probably should have seen in the theater. Watching it 15 or 20 years after it came out on a television set wasn't optimal I guess. I thought it was dumb but I also didn't give it a full viewing so can be safely ignored here. And most other threads too.
 
16. The Matrix (1999)

Directed by: The Wachowskis

Starring: Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving

Synopsis: [/B]A computer hacker discovers that humanity is trapped in a simulated reality.

There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.- Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus

One of just a handful of movies that encapsulate the 90s and that really is a commentary on society grappling with the expanding importance of technology in our universe. There are plenty of flaws to nitpick but the overall cultural impact and staying power of the franchise speaks volumes.

Trip's Official Ruling: Appropriately Ranked
 
In the '80s one of our UHF stations played reruns of a show called Carter Country that I would watch occasionally.
If I had seen a rerun of this anytime since the original run it might have made my top 70. I have fond memories of this show. But I am unsure if those memories are just a few moments I retained all these years and thus have boosted an otherwise mediocre or even bad show in my mind. Or if those moments were reflective of the show. What I remember was satire that contained unconformatable amounts of "because its true" and introducing characters as stereotypes ("painting with that broad brush*") but having their humanity ultimately play out over the series where the characters weren't actually the stereotypes. Again, how well this was really done vs my 45+ year old memory of moments is :shrug:

*Oh and the "bad painter" episode is one that I remember.
 
I tried to watch it for the first time like 15 years ago and didn't make it 20 minutes. I should probably try it again.
Every time I want to make fun of a take like this I remind myself that I'm not really much of a fan of Lawrence of Arabia, The Godfather, and Goodfellas...so I don't. :lol:

This is one I probably should have seen in the theater. Watching it 15 or 20 years after it came out on a television set wasn't optimal I guess. I thought it was dumb but I also didn't give it a full viewing so can be safely ignored here. And most other threads too.
Just an aside, but you and Andy have almost the exact same post count. Clicking on profiles is fun.
 
I tried to watch it for the first time like 15 years ago and didn't make it 20 minutes. I should probably try it again.
Every time I want to make fun of a take like this I remind myself that I'm not really much of a fan of Lawrence of Arabia, The Godfather, and Goodfellas...so I don't. :lol:

This is one I probably should have seen in the theater. Watching it 15 or 20 years after it came out on a television set wasn't optimal I guess. I thought it was dumb but I also didn't give it a full viewing so can be safely ignored here. And most other threads too.
Just an aside, but you and Andy have almost the exact same post count. Clicking on profiles is fun.

Really? I feel like I've blathered and polluted this board far more than Andy has.
 
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I've never been a big special effects guy, but The Matrix is incredible. Great storytelling, very original for its time, and it has aged really well. Jaws were on the floor everywhere back in '99 when Trinity did that leap in the opening scene and then the camera spun around while the action paused (whatever the hell effect that is called).
 
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16. The Matrix (1999)

Directed by: The Wachowskis

Starring: Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving

Synopsis: [/B]A computer hacker discovers that humanity is trapped in a simulated reality.

There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.- Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus

One of just a handful of movies that encapsulate the 90s and that really is a commentary on society grappling with the expanding importance of technology in our universe. There are plenty of flaws to nitpick but the overall cultural impact and staying power of the franchise speaks volumes.

Trip's Official Ruling: Appropriately Ranked
Yes this is one of the most late 90s movies that exists. I was a senior in HS and one of the guys I worked with who was in college asked me if I had seen The Matrix and I hadn’t. His jaw dropped and he said “you have to see it. It explains everything.” He went on to tell me all the Deja vu and tastes like chicken stuff and he was truly convinced the movie was exposing our actual reality. I assume he hosts some kind of manosphere YouTube show now.
 
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Reading the wikipedia page

In 1996, the Wachowskis pitched the role of Neo to Will Smith. Smith explained on his YouTube channel that the idea was for him to be Neo, while Morpheus was to be played by Val Kilmer. He later explained that he did not quite understand the concept and he turned down the role to instead film Wild Wild West.. Madonna also turned down an undisclosed role, a decision she would later regret
Would this movie be as beloved without Reeves, Fishburne and Moss? Or would we rather have Smith, Kilmer and Madonna?
 
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In the '80s one of our UHF stations played reruns of a show called Carter Country that I would watch occasionally.
If I had seen a rerun of this anytime since the original run it might have made my top 70. I have fond memories of this show. But I am unsure if those memories are just a few moments I retained all these years and thus have boosted an otherwise mediocre or even bad show in my mind. Or if those moments were reflective of the show. What I remember was satire that contained unconformatable amounts of "because its true" and introducing characters as stereotypes ("painting with that broad brush*") but having their humanity ultimately play out over the series where the characters weren't actually the stereotypes. Again, how well this was really done vs my 45+ year old memory of moments is :shrug:

*Oh and the "bad painter" episode is one that I remember.
I remember the mayor would wave his hand and say “handle it, handle it.” And that’s about it.
 
16. The Matrix (1999)

Directed by: The Wachowskis

Starring: Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving

Synopsis:
A computer hacker discovers that humanity is trapped in a simulated reality.

There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.- Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus

What Bladerunner was for the 1980s, The Matrix was for the late 90s: a science fiction film so brimming with new ideas and visual effects that it basically changed cinematic history. In that sense it may be one of the most important films on this list. However, as always, I rank it in terms of entertainment value. When I first saw it I didn’t consider the impact it would have. I watched it, was absorbed in the plot, the characters, the martial arts and use of different speed cinematography, and I thought, “that’s really cool.” Pretty much feel the same now.
This movie was huge when it hit. The clothes in the film was worn in every mall in America at the time, Shrek famously spoofed it in film(along with lots of others), and some vernacular from the film is still used today. A true cultural phenomenon.

All the sequels were straight trash.
 
Reading the wikipedia page

In 1996, the Wachowskis pitched the role of Neo to Will Smith. Smith explained on his YouTube channel that the idea was for him to be Neo, while Morpheus was to be played by Val Kilmer. He later explained that he did not quite understand the concept and he turned down the role to instead film Wild Wild West.. Madonna also turned down an undisclosed role, a decision she would later regret
Would this movie be as beloved without Reeves, Fishburne and Moss? Or would we rather have Smith, Kilmer and Madonna?
With Madonna it may have been higher on Tim’s list.
 
Reading the wikipedia page

In 1996, the Wachowskis pitched the role of Neo to Will Smith. Smith explained on his YouTube channel that the idea was for him to be Neo, while Morpheus was to be played by Val Kilmer. He later explained that he did not quite understand the concept and he turned down the role to instead film Wild Wild West.. Madonna also turned down an undisclosed role, a decision she would later regret
Would this movie be as beloved without Reeves, Fishburne and Moss? Or would we rather have Smith, Kilmer and Madonna?
With Madonna it may have been higher on Tim’s list.
very astute observation
 

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