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The 100 Greatest movies of the 1990s 7. Hoop Dreams (100 Viewers)

I get why Titanic is great but I’m not a big fan. I actually saw it for the first time as the movie that the entire plane watched. Thought it was an odd choice.

I like the movie but don’t love it.

Going to list 100 movies from the 90s I'd rather watch than Titanic.
Yeah I hear you... but it still deserves to be ranked. It was massively popular when it came out.

ETA: Also, Rose sucks.

Definitely not arguing against its popularity. It had - afterall - one of the biggest marketing budgets and soundtracks money could buy.

Doesn't mean there aren't 100 movies from the 90s I'd prefer to watch over this one.
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
"I'll never let go" is metaphoric. And an answer to Jack telling her to promise him she'll never give up.

And it's not about "room". There's not enough buoyancy.

I watch Titanic at least once a year.
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
"I'll never let go" is metaphoric.

And it's not about "room". There's not enough buoyancy.

I watch Titanic at least once a year.

It really is the perfect movie to turn on for your grandmother with some snacks so you can escape the house for 3 hours.
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
"I'll never let go" is metaphoric. And an answer to Jack telling her to promise him she'll never give up.

And it's not about "room". There's not enough buoyancy.

I watch Titanic at least once a year.
Well that video doesn’t tell you their conclusion. But I say Mythbusters has it right. And here’s the bigger point: she doesn’t even TRY. She just flops down on the thing and collapses. She doesn’t say “here I’ll scoot over, you climb on.”
Nothing, nada.
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
"I'll never let go" is metaphoric. And an answer to Jack telling her to promise him she'll never give up.

And it's not about "room". There's not enough buoyancy.

I watch Titanic at least once a year.
Well that video doesn’t tell you their conclusion. But I say Mythbusters has it right. And here’s the bigger point: she doesn’t even TRY. She just flops down on the thing and collapses. She doesn’t say “here I’ll scoot over, you climb on.”
Nothing, nada.
Mostly untrue. Jack tries to get on and the door nearly flips. (It's the first part of the video). They realize they're not both going to get on the door.
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
"I'll never let go" is metaphoric. And an answer to Jack telling her to promise him she'll never give up.

And it's not about "room". There's not enough buoyancy.

I watch Titanic at least once a year.
Well that video doesn’t tell you their conclusion. But I say Mythbusters has it right. And here’s the bigger point: she doesn’t even TRY. She just flops down on the thing and collapses. She doesn’t say “here I’ll scoot over, you climb on.”
Nothing, nada.
The dumber move is frankly throwing a generational wealth creating diamond into the ****ing ocean.
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
"I'll never let go" is metaphoric. And an answer to Jack telling her to promise him she'll never give up.

And it's not about "room". There's not enough buoyancy.

I watch Titanic at least once a year.
Well that video doesn’t tell you their conclusion. But I say Mythbusters has it right. And here’s the bigger point: she doesn’t even TRY. She just flops down on the thing and collapses. She doesn’t say “here I’ll scoot over, you climb on.”
Nothing, nada.
The dumber move is frankly throwing a generational wealth creating diamond into the ****ing ocean.
The kind of wealth she was desperate to escape from in the first place?
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
"I'll never let go" is metaphoric. And an answer to Jack telling her to promise him she'll never give up.

And it's not about "room". There's not enough buoyancy.

I watch Titanic at least once a year.
Well that video doesn’t tell you their conclusion. But I say Mythbusters has it right. And here’s the bigger point: she doesn’t even TRY. She just flops down on the thing and collapses. She doesn’t say “here I’ll scoot over, you climb on.”
Nothing, nada.
The dumber move is frankly throwing a generational wealth creating diamond into the ****ing ocean.
The kind of wealth she was desperate to escape from in the first place?
So donate all proceeds to kids' cancer research or some other super charitable good.

But, no.... *gasp* that selfish harlot had to go and throw the diamond into the ocean because of some dude on a door.
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
Wouldn’t make my top 100. Saw it once in the theater. It was fine. Can’t imagine bothering to watch it again.

Best part of the movie was seeing it with my hot Colombian college friend and all that followed after.
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
Wouldn’t make my top 100. Saw it once in the theater. It was fine. Can’t imagine bothering to watch it again.

Best part of the movie was seeing it with my hot Colombian college friend and all that followed after.
Did he treat you right?
 
9. Titanic (1997)

Directed by: James Cameron

Starring: Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Billy Zane

Synopsis:
A very old lady recalls her survival of the sinking of the Titanic.

I’ll never let go, Jack. I promise. - Kate Winslet as Rose.

Of course she did let go. Liar. And I’ll always argue there was room on that door anyway, if she had just moved over a little…

Anyhow I’ve never understood why (some) folks rag on this movie. Because they can’t stand romantic love stories? This is an epic Hollywood film, thrilling and dramatic, with a tremendous villain in Billy Zane. The early scenes are fine and get us to know the characters and then once the iceberg is hit the movie has that great James Cameron rush to it that he also achieved in Aliens- there is, for my money, no finer director of action. Definitely belongs in the top 10 of the decade.
Wouldn’t make my top 100. Saw it once in the theater. It was fine. Can’t imagine bothering to watch it again.

Best part of the movie was seeing it with my hot Colombian college friend and all that followed after.
Did he treat you right?
This was hilarious. Ha ha
 
it won Best Picture.
I don't mean to be argumentative but you've said this before and I don't quite get it. Why would people be upset that it won an oscar? Now I do think there could be legit criticism over movie A winning over movie B. Is that what you mean?

If anything, I think Titanic is labeled as a "chick flic" and that will generate some "hate".

I think it deff deserves to be on a list of the 90's though.

I think the bolded is a reason it gets the double hate that I posted above. I agree it's labeled at that, but more specifically it's coded as a TEEN chick flick. Even less cool to get caught watching as a dude. ;)

Again, I like the movie but as far as winning Best Picture that is often tied into what didn't win because of it. IMO 1997 was one of the best years for movies, and a couple other movies that were nominated were pretty mainstream so I think people had stronger opinions than other years. As Good As It Gets and Good Will Hunting were nominated as was LA Confidential.

For me it's also Exhibit A for a great example of why the Academy Awards are mostly a joke. Also released that year: Boogie Nights, Jackie Brown, The Ice Storm, Face/Off, The Sweet Hereafter, The Apostle, and a few others. A top notch year for the dramatic fare people usually associate with the awards. The only recent year I can think of better is 2007, but that year the Academy had way more correct than '97. (imo). I
The Sweet Hereafter was awesome. I'm sure Tim won't have it on his list and may not even have heard of it.
 
it won Best Picture.
I don't mean to be argumentative but you've said this before and I don't quite get it. Why would people be upset that it won an oscar? Now I do think there could be legit criticism over movie A winning over movie B. Is that what you mean?

If anything, I think Titanic is labeled as a "chick flic" and that will generate some "hate".

I think it deff deserves to be on a list of the 90's though.

I think the bolded is a reason it gets the double hate that I posted above. I agree it's labeled at that, but more specifically it's coded as a TEEN chick flick. Even less cool to get caught watching as a dude. ;)

Again, I like the movie but as far as winning Best Picture that is often tied into what didn't win because of it. IMO 1997 was one of the best years for movies, and a couple other movies that were nominated were pretty mainstream so I think people had stronger opinions than other years. As Good As It Gets and Good Will Hunting were nominated as was LA Confidential.

For me it's also Exhibit A for a great example of why the Academy Awards are mostly a joke. Also released that year: Boogie Nights, Jackie Brown, The Ice Storm, Face/Off, The Sweet Hereafter, The Apostle, and a few others. A top notch year for the dramatic fare people usually associate with the awards. The only recent year I can think of better is 2007, but that year the Academy had way more correct than '97. (imo). I
The Sweet Hereafter was awesome. I'm sure Tim won't have it on his list and may not even have heard of it.

That's the conclusion I'm reaching. Book was excellent and the movie gave it its proper due - it is a HEAVY story and you better do it right. They did.

Another one Karma listed is in my top 5 from the decade of the 90s. I doubt Tim lists it and I'm curious if it's also because he's never seen it or heard about it.

Maybe if they animated it or had Madona..
..
 
it won Best Picture.
I don't mean to be argumentative but you've said this before and I don't quite get it. Why would people be upset that it won an oscar? Now I do think there could be legit criticism over movie A winning over movie B. Is that what you mean?

If anything, I think Titanic is labeled as a "chick flic" and that will generate some "hate".

I think it deff deserves to be on a list of the 90's though.

I think the bolded is a reason it gets the double hate that I posted above. I agree it's labeled at that, but more specifically it's coded as a TEEN chick flick. Even less cool to get caught watching as a dude. ;)

Again, I like the movie but as far as winning Best Picture that is often tied into what didn't win because of it. IMO 1997 was one of the best years for movies, and a couple other movies that were nominated were pretty mainstream so I think people had stronger opinions than other years. As Good As It Gets and Good Will Hunting were nominated as was LA Confidential.

For me it's also Exhibit A for a great example of why the Academy Awards are mostly a joke. Also released that year: Boogie Nights, Jackie Brown, The Ice Storm, Face/Off, The Sweet Hereafter, The Apostle, and a few others. A top notch year for the dramatic fare people usually associate with the awards. The only recent year I can think of better is 2007, but that year the Academy had way more correct than '97. (imo). I
The Sweet Hereafter was awesome. I'm sure Tim won't have it on his list and may not even have heard of it.

That's the conclusion I'm reaching. Book was excellent and the movie gave it its proper due - it is a HEAVY story and you better do it right. They did.

Another one Karma listed is in my top 5 from the decade of the 90s. I doubt Tim lists it and I'm curious if it's also because he's never seen it or heard about it.

Maybe if they animated it or had Madona..
..
Yeah. I saw it before my son was born. Not sure I could watch it after becoming a parent.
 
it won Best Picture.
I don't mean to be argumentative but you've said this before and I don't quite get it. Why would people be upset that it won an oscar? Now I do think there could be legit criticism over movie A winning over movie B. Is that what you mean?

If anything, I think Titanic is labeled as a "chick flic" and that will generate some "hate".

I think it deff deserves to be on a list of the 90's though.

I think the bolded is a reason it gets the double hate that I posted above. I agree it's labeled at that, but more specifically it's coded as a TEEN chick flick. Even less cool to get caught watching as a dude. ;)

Again, I like the movie but as far as winning Best Picture that is often tied into what didn't win because of it. IMO 1997 was one of the best years for movies, and a couple other movies that were nominated were pretty mainstream so I think people had stronger opinions than other years. As Good As It Gets and Good Will Hunting were nominated as was LA Confidential.

For me it's also Exhibit A for a great example of why the Academy Awards are mostly a joke. Also released that year: Boogie Nights, Jackie Brown, The Ice Storm, Face/Off, The Sweet Hereafter, The Apostle, and a few others. A top notch year for the dramatic fare people usually associate with the awards. The only recent year I can think of better is 2007, but that year the Academy had way more correct than '97. (imo). I
The Sweet Hereafter was awesome. I'm sure Tim won't have it on his list and may not even have heard of it.

That's the conclusion I'm reaching. Book was excellent and the movie gave it its proper due - it is a HEAVY story and you better do it right. They did.

Another one Karma listed is in my top 5 from the decade of the 90s. I doubt Tim lists it and I'm curious if it's also because he's never seen it or heard about it.

Maybe if they animated it or had Madona..
..
Yeah. I saw it before my son was born. Not sure I could watch it after becoming a parent.

I took a date to this movie. She was mortified by my selection. She had a 2 year old son. Ope.
 
Titanic is tough for me because there is so much good (music, cast, attention to detail, emotional involvement) and so much bad (cardboard characters, too much time running around in the ship after the iceberg, ridiculous ending). It also has a line so bad that I groaned out loud in the theater the first time: "I've counted the lifeboats and there isn't enough...".
Overall I like it. but for me, it has too many inconsistencies to be a great film. :shrug:
 
Plus, you know, 100% of people who watched Titanic knew what the ****ing ending was going to be.....so much for any surprises or suspense.
This reminds me of when they showed the movie La Bamba at my college and after it was over I was walking out with this girl and I asked her if she liked it and she said “I thought it was really good but I wish they didn’t make him die at the end. That was sad”…… I didn’t have the heart to tell her.
 
I found Titanic to be very entertaining. Ergo, to me, it’s a good movie. :shrug:
I agree it's an entertaining watch, but really only once the ship sinking part comes in. Too much early focus on Jack and Rose, which I understand is the underpinning of the movie, but I just find that whole story arc uninteresting.
 
But, no.... *gasp* that selfish harlot had to go and throw the diamond into the ocean because of some dude on a door.
You do realise that she didn't own it, right? The loser owned it, and I doubt he was donating to charity.
She very easily could have negotiated some income that would have been very beneficial for her family or a charity. Plus, she also deprived the world of one of the prettiest stones ever.

I will die on this hill. She sucks. I didn't even like her character when I saw the movie as a kid in the theater (I've never really cared for Winslett - though I concede I can't really articulate why).
 
But, no.... *gasp* that selfish harlot had to go and throw the diamond into the ocean because of some dude on a door.
You do realise that she didn't own it, right? The loser owned it, and I doubt he was donating to charity.
She very easily could have negotiated some income that would have been very beneficial for her family or a charity. Plus, she also deprived the world of one of the prettiest stones ever.

I will die on this hill. She sucks. I didn't even like her character when I saw the movie as a kid in the theater (I've never really cared for Winslett - though I concede I can't really articulate why).
That would have made for compelling cinema.
 
But, no.... *gasp* that selfish harlot had to go and throw the diamond into the ocean because of some dude on a door.
You do realise that she didn't own it, right? The loser owned it, and I doubt he was donating to charity.
She very easily could have negotiated some income that would have been very beneficial for her family or a charity. Plus, she also deprived the world of one of the prettiest stones ever.

I will die on this hill. She sucks. I didn't even like her character when I saw the movie as a kid in the theater (I've never really cared for Winslett - though I concede I can't really articulate why).
That would have made for compelling cinema.
You're right. Let's just drop the incredibly valuable stone into the water for no good reason and squeak while doing it.
 
But, no.... *gasp* that selfish harlot had to go and throw the diamond into the ocean because of some dude on a door.
You do realise that she didn't own it, right? The loser owned it, and I doubt he was donating to charity.
She very easily could have negotiated some income that would have been very beneficial for her family or a charity. Plus, she also deprived the world of one of the prettiest stones ever.

I will die on this hill. She sucks. I didn't even like her character when I saw the movie as a kid in the theater (I've never really cared for Winslett - though I concede I can't really articulate why).
That would have made for compelling cinema.
You're right. Let's just drop the incredibly valuable stone into the water for no good reason and squeak while doing it.
The world had gotten by without it for nearly 80 years. It'll get by without it for more.
 
Seems like some of the "just turn off your brain and enjoy a movie" crew are coming out for Titanic. ;)
So are the "turn off your heart and hate it" crew. :angry:
Good Will Hunting had 1000x's the heart of Titanic.

Your move, Chief.

Heck, Robin Williams' monologue in that scene is better than the entirety of Titanic.
It has more cheese than was served on the Titanic.
I'm just playing around, of course. I enjoyed GWH and indeed found it heartwarming.
 
Seems like some of the "just turn off your brain and enjoy a movie" crew are coming out for Titanic. ;)
I think it's just the opposite. @Andy Dufresne has shown the use of his brain by analyzing the symbolic meaning of the scene. Approaching most movies with complaints about a lack of realism shows, to me, a turning off your brain.
I wasnt talking about Andy
 
Seems like some of the "just turn off your brain and enjoy a movie" crew are coming out for Titanic. ;)
So are the "turn off your heart and hate it" crew. :angry:
Good Will Hunting had 1000x's the heart of Titanic.

Your move, Chief.

Heck, Robin Williams' monologue in that scene is better than the entirety of Titanic.
Yep. That Folgers coffee moment with Robin and Matt is one of my greatest cinematic moments of all time. Just brilliant. Although I liked Titanic, no scene in that movie comes close.
 
it won Best Picture.
I don't mean to be argumentative but you've said this before and I don't quite get it. Why would people be upset that it won an oscar? Now I do think there could be legit criticism over movie A winning over movie B. Is that what you mean?

If anything, I think Titanic is labeled as a "chick flic" and that will generate some "hate".

I think it deff deserves to be on a list of the 90's though.

I think the bolded is a reason it gets the double hate that I posted above. I agree it's labeled at that, but more specifically it's coded as a TEEN chick flick. Even less cool to get caught watching as a dude. ;)

Again, I like the movie but as far as winning Best Picture that is often tied into what didn't win because of it. IMO 1997 was one of the best years for movies, and a couple other movies that were nominated were pretty mainstream so I think people had stronger opinions than other years. As Good As It Gets and Good Will Hunting were nominated as was LA Confidential.

For me it's also Exhibit A for a great example of why the Academy Awards are mostly a joke. Also released that year: Boogie Nights, Jackie Brown, The Ice Storm, Face/Off, The Sweet Hereafter, The Apostle, and a few others. A top notch year for the dramatic fare people usually associate with the awards. The only recent year I can think of better is 2007, but that year the Academy had way more correct than '97. (imo). I
The Sweet Hereafter was awesome. I'm sure Tim won't have it on his list and may not even have heard of it.
I actually am aware of it, I read the fine but very depressing novel by Russell Banks years ago. Alas have not seen the film.

Many of the films mentioned that do not show up on this list I simply haven’t seen.
 
Seems like some of the "just turn off your brain and enjoy a movie" crew are coming out for Titanic. ;)
So are the "turn off your heart and hate it" crew. :angry:
Good Will Hunting had 1000x's the heart of Titanic.

Your move, Chief.

Heck, Robin Williams' monologue in that scene is better than the entirety of Titanic.
Love GWH and I love Titanic. Both were in my top dozen films. Neither was the best movie of 1997 IMO.
 

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