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Actually I'm thrilled with the outcome. If we're that good we take care of business on our own.
My best guess, (growing up 45 min from Charlotte) for most fans in NC.
Being thrilled that New Orleans won their game is weird. Not only is New Orleans a division rival, the Panthers are chasing them for 1st place.
palmersteel said:
We usually sneak in to the little snake river that runs along the stadium, quick jog across just 1 reserved parking lot however the tailgating there is kind of meh.
I don't care what the buzz in the national media is today about the ending of the game. It was a great game, and I seriously doubt anyone is questioning if the Panthers are legit at this point.
How are we judging that statement? New Orleans and Seattle are both top 5 defenses right now, and are both at least as explosive as Carolina on offense.
when I think of the Saints, I think of a team that wins with offense first. The fact they have a nice defense too is gravy, but they win because of Drew Brees.How are we judging that statement? New Orleans and Seattle are both top 5 defenses right now, and are both at least as explosive as Carolina on offense.
The Panthers may have the best combination of offense and defense; so if that's what you mean
I haven't read or seen any comments on the last play, but as I was watching it, I though "uncatchable". Had Brady thrown the ball and hit Luke with it, the PI would be called all day every day.
There was still at least illegal contact before the pass was thrown. There was a call that should have been made there. But like I said we aren't the first and we won't be the last to benefit from a call or non-call this season. We have been on the other end of a few. And something no one is mentioning is they would have had to score on one play with no time left. That call doesn't assure a win.
Didn't they lose when they went for it earlier in the game? I think he had to take the points there.
Well they have to go to Seattle and we get them twice. If we can get some help from Seattle and at least split with them we should have a shot at the South.
BassNBrew said:
Big step forward for Cam last night in his maturity as a QB. I don't think he leads that last drive in past years. He ran when he had to and was on target. Good play calling by Shula too. But that was Cam's show.
Well they don't know how bad he is hurt yet. He is getting an MRI. He came back in to gut it out as he said and to give the D a lift when it needed it. And it showed. The defense got a lot more pressure in that final drive on Brady.BassNBrew said:
I love that they pressured Brady on the last drive as opposed to going prevent and letting him march down the field.
I also loved seeing Charles Johnson come back into the game. Could have been a huge injury.
Cam is a little better than Wilson and more explosive.when I think of the Saints, I think of a team that wins with offense first. The fact they have a nice defense too is gravy, but they win because of Drew Brees.How are we judging that statement? New Orleans and Seattle are both top 5 defenses right now, and are both at least as explosive as Carolina on offense.
The Panthers may have the best combination of offense and defense; so if that's what you mean
Seattle - here is a team with a nasty D and a good O, but IMO the Panthers O is more explosive. I can't back this up with stats (frankly, didn't realize the Seahawks are 2nd in the league in points), it's my perception and I base that on Carolina having more playmakers. a healthy Harvin may tip the scale though. in terms of explosiveness, Cam>Wilson, Smith> Tate, rest of Car's WR's = Seattle WR's, Olsen > Miller, Lynch > Deangelo/Stewart... that's how I see it anyways.
Earlier in the game they didn't convert on 4th and 2 on the Panther 35, but they got a 1st down due to a Panther hands to the face penalty. Their offense got their groove going more in the second half, and I'm surprised BB didn't go for it on the Panther 8 yard line on 4th and 1.
I suspect it would have gone the other way if Lester wasn't able to intercept it so easily. Just watched Brady's post game presser and he seemed to understand why the call was what it was. It's fun watching Steve Young twist himself into knots trying to convince the world of how terrible a call it was. At best, it's a 50/50 shot and I have no real sympathy for NE given the tuck rule and spygate.
Carolina played Seattle in the first game of the season. Seattle won 12-7. DeAngelo fumbled on the Seattle 8 yard line with a little over 5 minutes left in the game, and that put the nail in their coffin for that game. I haven't watched enough Seattle to comment on them, but Carolina is a much better team than they were at the beginning of the season in all facets of the game.Cam is a little better than Wilson and more explosive.when I think of the Saints, I think of a team that wins with offense first. The fact they have a nice defense too is gravy, but they win because of Drew Brees.How are we judging that statement? New Orleans and Seattle are both top 5 defenses right now, and are both at least as explosive as Carolina on offense.
The Panthers may have the best combination of offense and defense; so if that's what you mean
Seattle - here is a team with a nasty D and a good O, but IMO the Panthers O is more explosive. I can't back this up with stats (frankly, didn't realize the Seahawks are 2nd in the league in points), it's my perception and I base that on Carolina having more playmakers. a healthy Harvin may tip the scale though. in terms of explosiveness, Cam>Wilson, Smith> Tate, rest of Car's WR's = Seattle WR's, Olsen > Miller, Lynch > Deangelo/Stewart... that's how I see it anyways.
Otherwise, once you add Harvin to the mix, Seattle is better everywhere on offense except TE.
Overall I'll take Carolina in a close match. Too bad they don't play this year until the playoffs.
The WRs stepped up last night...Laffel was that possession WR everyone said he could be, but I agree....they need to address WR in this draft. WIth all the talent coming out it's a no brainer.
With a night to sleep on it, I've come around to think something should've been called. No way Gronk was ever catching that pass, so, like you, I have no sympathy.
Carolina played Seattle in the first game of the season. Seattle won 12-7. DeAngelo fumbled on the Seattle 8 yard line with a little over 5 minutes left in the game, and that put the nail in their coffin for that game. I haven't watched enough Seattle to comment on them, but Carolina is a much better team than they were at the beginning of the season in all facets of the game.Cam is a little better than Wilson and more explosive.when I think of the Saints, I think of a team that wins with offense first. The fact they have a nice defense too is gravy, but they win because of Drew Brees.How are we judging that statement? New Orleans and Seattle are both top 5 defenses right now, and are both at least as explosive as Carolina on offense.
The Panthers may have the best combination of offense and defense; so if that's what you mean
Seattle - here is a team with a nasty D and a good O, but IMO the Panthers O is more explosive. I can't back this up with stats (frankly, didn't realize the Seahawks are 2nd in the league in points), it's my perception and I base that on Carolina having more playmakers. a healthy Harvin may tip the scale though. in terms of explosiveness, Cam>Wilson, Smith> Tate, rest of Car's WR's = Seattle WR's, Olsen > Miller, Lynch > Deangelo/Stewart... that's how I see it anyways.
Otherwise, once you add Harvin to the mix, Seattle is better everywhere on offense except TE.
Overall I'll take Carolina in a close match. Too bad they don't play this year until the playoffs.
I was just looking at the remaining schedule.
If the team keeps playing this way I don't see why we can't. I think Cam is actually a better QB than Kaep.
They both need to prove their high-level of play is sustainable. Cam does look more in control and tempered with the short passing game recently. The way the defense is playing I wouldn't ask him to do anymore than that like SF did with Kaep. Thats not a crime, Russel Wilson does the same thing in Sea. Maybe Cam isn't a franchise guy, but I'm sure you guys wouldn't mind a SB run. And why the hell doesn't Ted Ginn get 5-10 touches a game? Wow.. He might be the difference in becoming a solid offense. He's difficult to defend. I considered him a bust, but he caught my attention in the preseason.
Ginn is a bit of a pass dropper still. But they are trying to take shots with him when they can. They would love to get it in his hands more. I really think they should start letting him run some screens and maybe a reverse or two. A guy that fast they should see how many different ways they can use him to gash a team.
