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Uruk-Hai said:
Not sure where to find this....

Have the ratings improved? I know they were miniscule last season - kudos to FX for renewing anyway - but it seems like The Americans has gotten a LOT more buzz this year.
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It's already been renewed for season 3 I believe.

 
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Josie Maran said:
I thought it was pretty meh. Warming Glow had a very different take:

‘The Americans’ Second Season Finale Recap: Simple, Unexpected, PerfectSeason two of FX’s The Americans wrapped up last night with “The Echo,” and it did so in a way that was so typical of the understated series: It was both completely unexpected, and yet, it made total sense. I think that, because of the nature of the show, because of its darkness, and its thematic complexity, we often expect deeper conspiracies are at play, but once we cut through the clutter, the storylines are often fairly simple and, as they did last night, wrap up neatly. The decisions that the characters make are not simple, of course, but the consequences are.

Take for instance, Stan Beeman, who spent much of the season agonizing over whether he would betray his mistress Nina, or if he would betray his country by spilling secrets to the KGB to protect her. There was a lot going on in that subplot, particularly on Nina’s side, because it was hard to tell what her true feelings were, especially once Oleg and her became involved. What became apparent in the end was that both Oleg and Stan loved her, but while Oleg was willing to risk his own ###, give Nina a stack of cash, and tell her to run, Stan ultimately didn’t love Nina enough. He chose country over love, left Nina a note, and the consequences were fairly simple: Nina would be taken back to Russia, tried for treason, and possibly executed (I’d like to think that she will ultimately be spared because I really like the character, but I do think that that particular subplot with Stan has been played out now. If Nina ultimately survives, both her and Stan need to move on to different storylines).
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Does no one edit this site? I had to stop in the second paragraph when I saw the same error for the second time. Learn the difference between the objective and subjective cases if you're going to be a professional writer. It's not that difficult.
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Yeah, the author wrote "her" when he meant "she" twice in the second paragraph, but among all of the other errors in grammar and punctuation, those didn't especially stand out. The whole thing is a mess.

 
Insein said:
El Floppo said:
I had the same thought about the priest, but immediately realized its way, way too big of a stretch considering how Paige b got to the church in the first place.
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He just seemed very calm when Phil threatened him and it was a bit aggressive to chain himself to the fence of a military base for a priest. Just a thought.
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If he were undercover KGB, I don't think he'd voluntarily get arrested for civil disobedience.

Ordinary priest and child-molesting priest (but I repeat myself, j/k) are both a lot more likely than undercover KGB priest, IMO.

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
Insein said:
El Floppo said:
I had the same thought about the priest, but immediately realized its way, way too big of a stretch considering how Paige b got to the church in the first place.
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He just seemed very calm when Phil threatened him and it was a bit aggressive to chain himself to the fence of a military base for a priest. Just a thought.
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If he were undercover KGB, I don't think he'd voluntarily get arrested for civil disobedience.

Ordinary priest and child-molesting priest (but I repeat myself, j/k) are both a lot more likely than undercover KGB priest, IMO.
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Yep. Youre right.

 
I am catching up on the show and in the middle of Season 2. :thumbup: :thumbup:

Just watched the scene where Elizabeth is teasing Phillip about his "Wild Animal" relationship with Martha :lmao: :lmao:

And whenever I hear somebody say in a movie or TV show say that their relationship is "complicated", I will scoff, because it will be nothing compared to Phillip and Elizabeth Jennings

 
JaxBill said:
My biggest problem with the finale was how they offed Larrick. Looked like Jared's shot only injured but two handcuffed people can finish him off?
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They showed the gun in the back of Larrick's pants just so we'd know it would be used.

 
JaxBill said:
3C said:
JaxBill said:
My biggest problem with the finale was how they offed Larrick. Looked like Jared's shot only injured but two handcuffed people can finish him off?
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They showed the gun in the back of Larrick's pants just so we'd know it would be used.
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But the headbutt of a soaking wet 110 lb chick sends him careening backwards into the trunk?
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Headbutts friggin hurt no matter the size of the dome in question, so that didn't really bother me.

That fight should have been more brutal though. Like Philip hooking a leg around Larrick's neck and choking him out while Larrick has a hold of Felicity or something.

 
Josie Maran said:
JaxBill said:
3C said:
JaxBill said:
My biggest problem with the finale was how they offed Larrick. Looked like Jared's shot only injured but two handcuffed people can finish him off?
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They showed the gun in the back of Larrick's pants just so we'd know it would be used.
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But the headbutt of a soaking wet 110 lb chick sends him careening backwards into the trunk?
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Headbutts friggin hurt no matter the size of the dome in question, so that didn't really bother me.

That fight should have been more brutal though. Like Philip hooking a leg around Larrick's neck and choking him out while Larrick has a hold of Felicity or something.
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I do have to give kudos to the kid while he was bleeding out... was pretty good job, and honestly, pretty tough to watch. Nothing quite like a hormone induced teenager to sink your brainwashing hooks into.

 
Insein said:
FlapJacks said:
Insein said:
Daywalker said:
A little unclear with Jared.

He killed his parents and sister. Got it.

But why? And were they his real parents?

Could barely understand what he was saying.
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Yes they were his parents and sister. The Centre approached him directly through Kate to start him on the 2nd gen program without the parents permission. He argued with the parents as normal teens do. Where I have trouble grasping is how he became a sociopath to the point that he kept a straight face walking back to the room after knowing what he did.
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a lot of anger over having been lied to his whole life...probably along with a lifetime of relative neglect...

I guess. Just seemed like they wrote something for the season opener and then tacked this on later. He showed the emotionless resolve of a sociopath. Even Phil or Elizabeth would be hard pressed to stay together after killing an innocent teen girl let alone one they knew. This kid killed them. Went to the pool. Then came back with a smile on his face.
I didn't mind that they stayed away from the kind of clumsy foreshadowing most shows do, but the circumstances of those murders didn't match the later explanation, and it would have been pretty easy to fix, just don't have Phillip see him heading smiling back towards his room after a swim. :shrug:

OTOH, shows the kid would probably have made a good spy.

So far the Paige/Henry stuff in this series has been solid, but increasing Paige's role is a risk, both writing wise and acting wise. They've earned the benefit of the doubt though.

 
Ash said:
Insein said:
FlapJacks said:
Insein said:
Daywalker said:
A little unclear with Jared.

He killed his parents and sister. Got it.

But why? And were they his real parents?

Could barely understand what he was saying.
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Yes they were his parents and sister. The Centre approached him directly through Kate to start him on the 2nd gen program without the parents permission. He argued with the parents as normal teens do. Where I have trouble grasping is how he became a sociopath to the point that he kept a straight face walking back to the room after knowing what he did.
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a lot of anger over having been lied to his whole life...probably along with a lifetime of relative neglect...

I guess. Just seemed like they wrote something for the season opener and then tacked this on later. He showed the emotionless resolve of a sociopath. Even Phil or Elizabeth would be hard pressed to stay together after killing an innocent teen girl let alone one they knew. This kid killed them. Went to the pool. Then came back with a smile on his face.
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I didn't mind that they stayed away from the kind of clumsy foreshadowing most shows do, but the circumstances of those murders didn't match the later explanation, and it would have been pretty easy to fix, just don't have Phillip see him heading smiling back towards his room after a swim. :shrug:

OTOH, shows the kid would probably have made a good spy.

So far the Paige/Henry stuff in this series has been solid, but increasing Paige's role is a risk, both writing wise and acting wise. They've earned the benefit of the doubt though.
totally agree on the bolded.

btw- anbody else seen paige actress in a commercial for something or other?

 
El Floppo said:
Ash said:
Insein said:
FlapJacks said:
Insein said:
Daywalker said:
A little unclear with Jared.

He killed his parents and sister. Got it.

But why? And were they his real parents?

Could barely understand what he was saying.
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Yes they were his parents and sister. The Centre approached him directly through Kate to start him on the 2nd gen program without the parents permission. He argued with the parents as normal teens do. Where I have trouble grasping is how he became a sociopath to the point that he kept a straight face walking back to the room after knowing what he did.
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a lot of anger over having been lied to his whole life...probably along with a lifetime of relative neglect...

I guess. Just seemed like they wrote something for the season opener and then tacked this on later. He showed the emotionless resolve of a sociopath. Even Phil or Elizabeth would be hard pressed to stay together after killing an innocent teen girl let alone one they knew. This kid killed them. Went to the pool. Then came back with a smile on his face.
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I didn't mind that they stayed away from the kind of clumsy foreshadowing most shows do, but the circumstances of those murders didn't match the later explanation, and it would have been pretty easy to fix, just don't have Phillip see him heading smiling back towards his room after a swim. :shrug:

OTOH, shows the kid would probably have made a good spy.

So far the Paige/Henry stuff in this series has been solid, but increasing Paige's role is a risk, both writing wise and acting wise. They've earned the benefit of the doubt though.
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totally agree on the bolded.

btw- anbody else seen paige actress in a commercial for something or other?
Yep. I think it was a cereal commercial.

 
Psychopav said:
About this: did it bug anyone else that the kitchens in both houses have islands in them?
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Actually, I got the impression that the houses have the exact same floor plan, which is certainly possible.

ETA: And I thought the Larrick stuff was a bit much from the moment he got back.

 
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Just finished Season 2 on Amazon last night and was waiting for this thread to be bumped. Great season until the last 20 minutes or so, and then oof. The ending really demanded a complete abandonment of logic and story-telling, but hey at least it set up Season 3.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Just finished Season 2 on Amazon last night and was waiting for this thread to be bumped. Great season until the last 20 minutes or so, and then oof. The ending really demanded a complete abandonment of logic and story-telling, but hey at least it set up Season 3.
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That was my gripe. Came out of left field. There were no context clues at all till the last episode.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Just finished Season 2 on Amazon last night and was waiting for this thread to be bumped. Great season until the last 20 minutes or so, and then oof. The ending really demanded a complete abandonment of logic and story-telling, but hey at least it set up Season 3.
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Are you talking about the "recruitment" conversation or the fight in the woods with the confession? Or both? The former didn't surprise me, as I think it's been going that way for a while. The latter was a little goofy, but it was intense and unexpected (at least by me)

 
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Richard Thomas with two black eyes and a busted nose :lol:

And it was nice to see them show some affection to each other. Missed that from Season 1

 
Not as drastic an opening hook as last year but that's a way to end an episode. Plus the season scenes look awesome.

 
Ok so who was the redhead again? Didn't recall her at all. Also was the boy she was coaching on tailing cars the kids who murdered his family?

 
Sabertooth said:
Ok so who was the redhead again? Didn't recall her at all. Also was the boy she was coaching on tailing cars the kids who murdered his family?
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Annalise was on the Americans last season. She was a Russian Spy, and had a sexual past with Phillip. I think the boy is a new recruit that Elizabeth is training.

 
simey said:
Sabertooth said:
Ok so who was the redhead again? Didn't recall her at all. Also was the boy she was coaching on tailing cars the kids who murdered his family?
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Annalise was on the Americans last season. She was a Russian Spy, and had a sexual past with Phillip. I think the boy is a new recruit that Elizabeth is training.
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Annelise was a recruit that Philip cultivated. She was he assitant to the Secretary of Defense. He used her a bunch of times since season 1.

 
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