The Inauguration (3 Viewers)

[The Z Machine]

If the Women's March tomorrow gets 100k+, that would be pretty interesting...

 

[Henry Ford]

If the Women's March tomorrow gets 100k+, that would be pretty interesting...

I think the women's march is going to greatly exceed 100k.

 

[ffldrew]

What a train wreck - he finally is in the reviewing stand at 5:30

 

[Joe Summer]

sublimeone:

Why does this seem to matter to you guys so much?

Seems to me that there are 3 valid reasons to point out the smaller sizes of Trump's crowds:

1. it tends to contradict Republican claims that Trump's victory was a mandate.
2. it tends to contradict Republican claims that Trump is more popular than Obama.
3. (most significantly) the President himself is not only obsessed with crowd size, but he frequently exaggerates or lies about them. (For example, just last night he proclaimed "They never had so many people" at an inaugural concert.)

So, maybe a better response would be: why are Trump supporters so afraid of Trump being called out for his exaggerations?

 

[roadkill1292]

I think there's a severely untapped demographic of Democrats who would have voted for anyone acting like a sane human being not named Hillary Clinton.

I think you're right. But I think the Trump victory was largely due to a group that was just really resentful of creeping cultural change.  Everyone used to stand up for the cops when they had to bash a few heads; now we're being told that the cops are prejudiced and unfair. You used to be able to complain about queers and freaks without hearing about it a thousand times on Facebook or Twitter. Those smartass liberals. Always with the jokes, the putdowns, the funny internet pictures. The companies boycotting places where traditional values held sway. The smug bastards. We've got a guy now who doesn't take any of that crap. We're gonna crack some skulls and let decent people run things for other decent people again.

 

[Higgs]

Baron wasn't going to get up for his Dad.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Already have it Massachusetts.  It's a great day, one of my favorite days of the year.

That's right. Red Sox play that day...

 

[Henry Ford]

I think you're right. But I think the Trump victory was largely due to a group that was just really resentful of creeping cultural change.  Everyone used to stand up for the cops when they had to bash a few heads; now we're being told that the cops are prejudiced and unfair. You used to be able to complain about queers and freaks without hearing about it a thousand times on Facebook or Twitter. Those smartass liberals. Always with the jokes, the putdowns, the funny internet pictures. The companies boycotting places where traditional values held sway. The smug bastards. We've got a guy now who doesn't take any of that crap. We're gonna crack some skulls and let decent people run things for other decent people again.

Meh.  Decent people are boring.  That's why nobody pays any attention to articles about decent exposure.  No one made a movie about a decent proposal.  They'll come around.

 

[Joe Summer]

Trump voters work.

There were 400,000 people at George W. Bush's inauguration.

 

[Eephus]

This whole "America First" mentality makes me a bit uneasy.  I understand the concept in a bigger sense, but it comes across as overly obnoxious and likely counter-productive when dealing with an increasingly more connected global economy.

He's going to ban soccer

 

[Higgs]

I think you're right. But I think the Trump victory was largely due to a group that was just really resentful of creeping cultural change.  Everyone used to stand up for the cops when they had to bash a few heads; now we're being told that the cops are prejudiced and unfair. You used to be able to complain about queers and freaks without hearing about it a thousand times on Facebook or Twitter. Those smartass liberals. Always with the jokes, the putdowns, the funny internet pictures. The companies boycotting places where traditional values held sway. The smug bastards. We've got a guy now who doesn't take any of that crap. We're gonna crack some skulls and let decent people run things for other decent people again.

Oh JFC give it break already.  Go pollute some other thread.

 

[Higgs]

That's right. Red Sox play that day...

Also Boston marathon and all sorts of hot chicks.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Pretty good salute there Mr President. 

 

[squistion]

It's perfect, as much as the left whined about out of control Trump supporters it's the liberals that are the complete embarrassment on Inauguration Day. You are the perfect ring leader too, congrats on your win. 

A small group of troublemakers out of several thousand peaceful protestors is not representative of liberals or Democrats. And no one here is condoning the violence.

 

[roadkill1292]

sublimeone:
 

Seems to me that there are 3 valid reasons to point out the smaller sizes of Trump's crowds:

1. it tends to contradict Republican claims that Trump's victory was a mandate.
2. it tends to contradict Republican claims that Trump is more popular than Obama.
3. (most significantly) the President himself is not only obsessed with crowd size, but he frequently exaggerates or lies about them. (For example, just last night he proclaimed "They never had so many people" at an inaugural concert.)

So, maybe a better response would be: why are Trump supporters so afraid of Trump being called out for his exaggerations?

I don't think that lots of Trump supporters make a lot of claims besides really generalized ones. They've never cared about the specifics or truthfulness of what Donald says. It's a secondary issue. One of the reasons our political threads are such pissing matches is that Trump supporters really don't have any policies to discuss. There are no plans from Donald and we really need to be focusing on what kind of damage the GOP congress can do to the nation.

 

[GoBirds]

There were 400,000 people at George W. Bush's inauguration.

So you're proving his point as it's much lower than Obama?

 

[Bucky86]

Donald Trump's signature looks like an EKG reading.

 

[jon_mx]

A small group of troublemakers out of several thousand peaceful protestors is not representative of liberals or Democrats. And no one here is condoning the violence.

And yet it just takes one sign at a rally of thousands to proclaim them all racists.  

 

[JIslander]

So you're proving his point as it's much lower than Obama?

JFC. If it were reversed, we would have seen that comparison from ya'll here 100 times already followed by tweets from POTUS about it. 

 

[CurlyNight]

So you're proving his point as it's much lower than Obama?

At that time, it was a historical moment. This time it's hysterical. 

 

[Wrigley]

Because I'm unpatriotic, that's why! 

You could protest

 

[otb_lifer]

I need another day to wear my American flag outfit.

pics or GTFO

 

[bueno]

I don't think that lots of Trump supporters make a lot of claims besides really generalized ones. They've never cared about the specifics or truthfulness of what Donald says. It's a secondary issue. One of the reasons our political threads are such pissing matches is that Trump supporters really don't have any policies to discuss. There are no plans from Donald and we really need to be focusing on what kind of damage the GOP congress can do to the nation.

No specific policies have been put forth yet. Nobody really believes campaign promises do they?

 

[GoBirds]

JFC. If it were reversed, we would have seen that comparison from ya'll here 100 times already followed by tweets from POTUS about it. 

Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure conservatives would have blocked highways, spit on people, lit cars on fire etc too. 

 

[Higgs]

A small group of troublemakers out of several thousand peaceful protestors is not representative of liberals or Democrats. And no one here is condoning the violence.

You've been saying this for the last 2 years.  This is Obama's legacy.  The Community Organizer.  The Agitator in Chief. The Left doesn't want a debate of ideas. They want to intimidate, coerce, and stifle debate.  There was a time and place for this tactic - when thousands of young people were dying in Vietnam and blacks were being actively and legally discriminated against.  Those days are long gone.

 

[mcintyre1]

You've been saying this for the last 2 years.  This is Obama's legacy.  The Community Organizer.  The Agitator in Chief. The Left doesn't want a debate of ideas. They want to intimidate, coerce, and stifle debate.  There was a time and place for this tactic - when thousands of young people were dying in Vietnam and blacks were being actively and legally discriminated against.  Those days are long gone.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Just checkin in to make sure none of you need the suicide hotline number  or psychiatric help 

i want everyone to remain healthy and happy.....lets start  uniting 

 

[Norman Paperman]

i want everyone to remain healthy and happy.....lets start  uniting 

I have been watching too much Trump today - I thought that said "lets start urinating"

 

[squistion]

You've been saying this for the last 2 years.  This is Obama's legacy.  The Community Organizer.  The Agitator in Chief. The Left doesn't want a debate of ideas. They want to intimidate, coerce, and stifle debate.  There was a time and place for this tactic - when thousands of young people were dying in Vietnam and blacks were being actively and legally discriminated against.  Those days are long gone.

 

What a bunch of the same nonsense that you have been saying for the last 2 years. Complete false characterization of the left because of the actions of a few.

 

[Higgs]

Just checkin in to make sure none of you need the suicide hotline number  or psychiatric help 

i want everyone to remain healthy and happy.....lets start  uniting 

They're still venting BN.  Reminds me of my wife when she'd have a bad day at work. 

 

[JIslander]

Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure conservatives would have blocked highways, spit on people, lit cars on fire etc too. 

I'm referring to the crowd size comparison.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I have been watching too much Trump today - I thought that said "lets start urinating"

hey...whatever turns you on bro

 

[Dickies]

You've been saying this for the last 2 years.  This is Obama's legacy.  The Community Organizer.  The Agitator in Chief. The Left doesn't want a debate of ideas. They want to intimidate, coerce, and stifle debate.  There was a time and place for this tactic - when thousands of young people were dying in Vietnam and blacks were being actively and legally discriminated against.  Those days are long gone.

This is just Palin nonsense.  He was a community organizer before going to law school, graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, taught constitutional law at Chicago Law School while practicing as an attorney, and then served as a state senator before being elected to the US Senate.  The notion that he was just some inexperienced average Joe is false

 

[bueno]

This is just Palin nonsense.  He was a community organizer before going to law school, graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, taught constitutional law at Chicago Law School while practicing as an attorney, and then served as a state senator before being elected to the US Senate.  The notion that he was just some inexperienced average Joe is false

So, an average Joe with a law degree then.

 

[Joe Summer]

GoBirds:

So you're proving his point as it's much lower than Obama?

His point, specifically, was that Trump voters work.

My point, specifically, was that more people came to W's inauguration, despite the fact that Bush voters and Trump voters are pretty much the same group of people.

And you know what? I actually think there's some merit to the idea that Democrats are more likely to be unemployed and therefore available to go to Obama's inauguration. But that doesn't change the fact that Bush had 60% more people at his inauguration.

 

[JIslander]

Trump's got it easy. No more racism!

 

[Higgs]

 

What a bunch of the same nonsense that you have been saying for the last 2 years. Complete false characterization of the left because of the actions of a few.

Not sure where've you've been the last couple years.  Let me refresh your memory...

• 2014 – Ferguson unrest, Ferguson, Missouri, August 10. Protests turned into violent riots and unrest after the death of teenager Michael Brown, who was shot by a Ferguson police officer.
  
• 2014 – New York, New York, and Berkeley, California – After prosecutors and a grand jury refused to indict a police officer in the death of Eric Garner, many people protested against it in New York City and other cities, some of them causing unrest.
  
• 2015 – 2015 Baltimore protests, April 25–28. After days of peaceful protests, rioting and looting broke out following the death of Freddie Gray while in police custody. 34 arrested and 15 Officers injured. On April 27th, Looting continued after the funeral where an additional 15 officers were injured. Governor Hogan activated the Maryland National Guard and 500 State Troopers to aide in restoring peace to the city. Baltimore, Maryland
  
• 2016 – 2016 Donald Trump Chicago rally protest, March 11. Five people arrested and two police officers injured during a demonstration at the UIC Pavilion.
  
• 2016 - Democracy Spring rally in April. March to Washington D.C. and sit-ins lead to arrests.
  
• 2016 - At least 261 people were arrested across the U.S. in protests in New York City, Chicago, St. Paul, Minnesota; Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and other cities. In St. Paul, bottles and rocks flew as over twenty officers were injured. The protests were held in response to the officer-involved shootings of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.
  
• 2016 - 2016 Milwaukee riots, Sherman Park, August 13–15. Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
  
• 2016 - 2016 Charlotte riot, September 20–21, Riots started in response to the shooting of Keith Lamont Scott by police
  
• 2016 - Dakota Access Pipeline protests, 411 Protesters Arrested. Multiple skirmishes with police, with vehicles, hay bales, and tires set on fire.
  
• 2016 - Anti-Trump protests, Nov. 9-27. As a result of Donald Trump being elected 45th President of the U.S., thousands protested across twenty five American cities and unrest broke out in Downtown Oakland, California and Portland, Oregon. In Downtown Oakland over 40 fires started and police officers were injured.[2] Protests in Portland were declared a "riot" with "extensive criminal and dangerous behavior" that were labeled by police as "unlawful."[3]

 

[Joe Summer]

bueno:

So, an average Joe with a law degree then.

And here we go with the anti-elitists disparaging Harvard Law School.

 

[bueno]

bueno:

And here we go with the anti-elitists disparaging Harvard Law School.

I like Harvard Business School.

 

[Thunderlips]

Come on, Trump.  At least be a little solemn when you're saluting the troops. Don't be swaying and bouncing to the music while doing it. 

 

[Higgs]

This is just Palin nonsense.  He was a community organizer before going to law school, graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, taught constitutional law at Chicago Law School while practicing as an attorney, and then served as a state senator before being elected to the US Senate.  The notion that he was just some inexperienced average Joe is false

He just described himself as a community organizer at heart.  It's what he is.  He believes in hitting the streets, getting in people's faces.

 

[JIslander]

Not sure where've you've been the last couple years.  Let me refresh your memory...

• 2014 – Ferguson unrest, Ferguson, Missouri, August 10. Protests turned into violent riots and unrest after the death of teenager Michael Brown, who was shot by a Ferguson police officer.
  
• 2014 – New York, New York, and Berkeley, California – After prosecutors and a grand jury refused to indict a police officer in the death of Eric Garner, many people protested against it in New York City and other cities, some of them causing unrest.
  
• 2015 – 2015 Baltimore protests, April 25–28. After days of peaceful protests, rioting and looting broke out following the death of Freddie Gray while in police custody. 34 arrested and 15 Officers injured. On April 27th, Looting continued after the funeral where an additional 15 officers were injured. Governor Hogan activated the Maryland National Guard and 500 State Troopers to aide in restoring peace to the city. Baltimore, Maryland
  
• 2016 – 2016 Donald Trump Chicago rally protest, March 11. Five people arrested and two police officers injured during a demonstration at the UIC Pavilion.
  
• 2016 - Democracy Spring rally in April. March to Washington D.C. and sit-ins lead to arrests.
  
• 2016 - At least 261 people were arrested across the U.S. in protests in New York City, Chicago, St. Paul, Minnesota; Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and other cities. In St. Paul, bottles and rocks flew as over twenty officers were injured. The protests were held in response to the officer-involved shootings of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.
  
• 2016 - 2016 Milwaukee riots, Sherman Park, August 13–15. Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
  
• 2016 - 2016 Charlotte riot, September 20–21, Riots started in response to the shooting of Keith Lamont Scott by police
  
• 2016 - Dakota Access Pipeline protests, 411 Protesters Arrested. Multiple skirmishes with police, with vehicles, hay bales, and tires set on fire.
  
• 2016 - Anti-Trump protests, Nov. 9-27. As a result of Donald Trump being elected 45th President of the U.S., thousands protested across twenty five American cities and unrest broke out in Downtown Oakland, California and Portland, Oregon. In Downtown Oakland over 40 fires started and police officers were injured.[2] Protests in Portland were declared a "riot" with "extensive criminal and dangerous behavior" that were labeled by police as "unlawful."[3]

And?

 

[Thunderlips]

We'll never know because Trump won....but anecdotally, I saw a lot of memes from Conservatives I know about "If they win...we revolt", "the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood" and other statements that were promoting violence if Clinton won.  That certainly doesn't condone violence in any of the protests....

 

[Higgs]

And?

And... I give you President Trump.

 

[packersfan]

GoBirds:

His point, specifically, was that Trump voters work.

 

I thought Trump got the support of all the non-educated white males without a job. Wasn't that supposedly the demo Clinton couldn't reach? If so all those folks should have had plenty of time to come to DC today. 

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Come on, Trump.  At least be a little solemn when you're saluting the troops. Don't be swaying and bouncing to the music while doing it. 

Can he do anything right in your eyes?

 

[packersfan]

Can he do anything right in your eyes?

If he re-signed tomorrow he'd make a strong case for my favorite President ever.

 

[JIslander]

And... I give you President Trump.

Great. Enjoy. Go celebrate.

 

[Thunderlips]

Probably posted already, but this presidency does bring some benefits:

Melania

Is it unpatriotic to want to bang the First Lady?*

* Not in the "I WANNA HATE F HER!!" in the way some Righties have felt about HRC and MO.......but in an actual, sexy, it'll be good for me and her type way?

 

[GoBirds]

We'll never know because Trump won....but anecdotally, I saw a lot of memes from Conservatives I know about "If they win...we revolt", "the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood" and other statements that were promoting violence if Clinton won.  That certainly doesn't condone violence in any of the protests....

Yeah that's pretty much the same as assaulting supporters at inauguration, destroying cars, breaking windows of stores, and blocking highways etc. If these memes even exist.