timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (4 Viewers)

[timschochet]

If something was in the movie theatre it is eligible to be picked correct

Any thoughts on this? I can think of a couple of films that went straight to video or cable, were well received, and later had a theatrical release. Ruling?

It's all eligible. Why not?

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

1.12 Primal Fear-Best Courtroom Scene

This is one of my favorite movies and IMO one of the best performances from Edward Norton (this is his first film). I was torn between this film and another as best Courtroom scene, but went with this one because it is such an amazing scene and Ed's performance was so bone chillingly awesome. Enjoy!

I will say that Edward Norton was brilliant in this, but having read the book first I couldn't believe how much the movie telegraphed this. The book does a much better job of Aaron Stampler (or whatever) showing his different side

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

<p><span style="font-size:18px;">1.18 Lena Lamont gets miked for sound - Shooting a movie scene</span><br />

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<span style="font-size:18px;"&gtFrom <em>Singin' in the Rain)</em></span><br />

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Not at the pick, just the overall look of the post

 

[Nick Vermeil]

2.12 Manhattan - New York

Write up later

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

1.19 - The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2) - Best Car Chase

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qcRgKuOU7Q

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbKrKrsFWzc

Real stunts done with real people and real cars / trucks. Spectacular crash at the end (and plenty of good ones in between).

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

<p><span style="font-size:18px;">1.18 Lena Lamont gets miked for sound - Shooting a movie scene</span><br />

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<span style="font-size:18px;"&gtFrom <em>Singin' in the Rain)</em></span><br />

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Is that for the pick or the ridiculous thing that happened to the formatting? Or both?

Never mind.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

SUPERHEROES JUDGING CRITERIA

- The movie should be enjoyable, which doesn't mean it can't be very serious, but it needs to have some entertainment value to score highly. This is probably obvious but I felt the need to state it for the record.

- Drafters need to be having some issues or complaints with the new board functions. If everyone is working smoothly for you with the crisp new setup, you won't score well.

- Plot and dialogue are what make movies for me, not just fight scenes and action sequences, no matter how good.

- My category is one of those most affected by THE RULE, and I'm assuming that the judges have some input as to how to interpret it, so this is my attempt to do so, which hopefully will spark no tiresome controversy:

- Different iterations of the same character are not the same for purposes of THE RULE. For example, the Keaton Batman series is a different franchise than the Nolan trilogy, and a pick in one of them does not block other picks in the other.

- The Marvel Cinematic Universe that began with the Iron Man films and has extended into The Avengers is one franchise. Any selection of any of the films in that group, including "The Avengers," prevents selections of any other movies in that group. Yeah, I know, it doesn't make much sense, does it? However, this is THE RULE in action.

- The X-Men trilogy DOES prevent a selection of "First Class," and vice versa, and the Wolverine film as well.

- Better selections will be those films that have value outside of the genre, as in, they are good films, not just superhero films.

- Because of THE RULE, some innvoation will be needed to get to 25 selections, and that's, of course, the purported genius of the statute. Accordingly, creative ways to evade the ridiculous provision will be rewarded. For example, superheroes do not have to be superpowered, nor do they have to be based on comic books or on traditional characters.

I will be happy to take additional questions via PM.

/fin

What about the 2 HULK movies (Bana and Norton)?

 

[ScottNorwood]

You can always edit your post mrs ramAnus

 

[BobbyLayne]

2.12 Manhattan - New YorkWrite up later

Easy 25 pointer IMO

 

[Time Kibitzer]

13. BobbyLayne - OTC

14. tish555 - on deck

15. timschochet

16. Karma Police

 

[BobbyLayne]

You can always edit your post mrs ramAnus

Make a pick - we're on the clock until 6:57 east coast bias time

 

[Kumerica]

SUPERHEROES JUDGING CRITERIA

- The movie should be enjoyable, which doesn't mean it can't be very serious, but it needs to have some entertainment value to score highly. This is probably obvious but I felt the need to state it for the record.

- Drafters need to be having some issues or complaints with the new board functions. If everyone is working smoothly for you with the crisp new setup, you won't score well.

- Plot and dialogue are what make movies for me, not just fight scenes and action sequences, no matter how good.

- My category is one of those most affected by THE RULE, and I'm assuming that the judges have some input as to how to interpret it, so this is my attempt to do so, which hopefully will spark no tiresome controversy:

- Different iterations of the same character are not the same for purposes of THE RULE. For example, the Keaton Batman series is a different franchise than the Nolan trilogy, and a pick in one of them does not block other picks in the other.

- The Marvel Cinematic Universe that began with the Iron Man films and has extended into The Avengers is one franchise. Any selection of any of the films in that group, including "The Avengers," prevents selections of any other movies in that group. Yeah, I know, it doesn't make much sense, does it? However, this is THE RULE in action.

- The X-Men trilogy DOES prevent a selection of "First Class," and vice versa, and the Wolverine film as well.

- Better selections will be those films that have value outside of the genre, as in, they are good films, not just superhero films.

- Because of THE RULE, some innvoation will be needed to get to 25 selections, and that's, of course, the purported genius of the statute. Accordingly, creative ways to evade the ridiculous provision will be rewarded. For example, superheroes do not have to be superpowered, nor do they have to be based on comic books or on traditional characters.

I will be happy to take additional questions via PM.

/fin

What about the 2 HULK movies (Bana and Norton)?

I would guess that the Norton version is no longer eligible, as that was part of the Marvel/Avengers Universe (even though they replaced him with Ruffalo), while the Bana movie came before it . . .

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

1.23 Heat - Best Shootout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpaFTFwuUHc#t=5m29s

Two of the greatest actors of all time in Pacino and Deniro, great supporting players like Kilmer and Sizemore, 6,000 rounds of ammo and a bunch of awesome weapons in an urban environment? Best shootout ever IMO

It would have been interesting to see how this did in Best Fight Scene, but this is the true category for it.

Great pick

 

[Tremendous Upside]

2.12 Manhattan - New YorkWrite up later

Easy 25 pointer IMO

Top tier for certain

 

[ScottNorwood]

You can always edit your post mrs ramAnus

Make a pick - we're on the clock until 6:57 east coast bias time

2nd round 2.13 Phoebe Cates undressing in Fast Times at Ridgemont High - Dream Sequence

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

2.7 - John Cleese - Monty Python and the Holy Grail - Actor in Multiple Roles

They all did multiple roles - he was the best.

Does this take out the other 2 Monty Python Movies?

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie

Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

Yeah.

Ficking stupid rule

:rage:

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

You can always edit your post mrs ramAnus

Make a pick - we're on the clock until 6:57 east coast bias time

2nd round 2.13 Phoebe Cates undressing in Fast Times at Ridgemont High - Dream Sequence

Shiiiite.

While I'm dicking around looking at all the posts I've missed, I had this teed up.

Even got a link and everything

 

[BobbyLayne]

You can always edit your post mrs ramAnus

Make a pick - we're on the clock until 6:57 east coast bias time

2nd round 2.13 Phoebe Cates undressing in Fast Times at Ridgemont High - Dream Sequence

Shiiiite.

While I'm dicking around looking at all the posts I've missed, I had this teed up.

Even got a link and everything

 

[Aerial Assault]

SUPERHEROES JUDGING CRITERIA

- The movie should be enjoyable, which doesn't mean it can't be very serious, but it needs to have some entertainment value to score highly. This is probably obvious but I felt the need to state it for the record.

- Drafters need to be having some issues or complaints with the new board functions. If everyone is working smoothly for you with the crisp new setup, you won't score well.

- Plot and dialogue are what make movies for me, not just fight scenes and action sequences, no matter how good.

- My category is one of those most affected by THE RULE, and I'm assuming that the judges have some input as to how to interpret it, so this is my attempt to do so, which hopefully will spark no tiresome controversy:

- Different iterations of the same character are not the same for purposes of THE RULE. For example, the Keaton Batman series is a different franchise than the Nolan trilogy, and a pick in one of them does not block other picks in the other.

- The Marvel Cinematic Universe that began with the Iron Man films and has extended into The Avengers is one franchise. Any selection of any of the films in that group, including "The Avengers," prevents selections of any other movies in that group. Yeah, I know, it doesn't make much sense, does it? However, this is THE RULE in action.

- The X-Men trilogy DOES prevent a selection of "First Class," and vice versa, and the Wolverine film as well.

- Better selections will be those films that have value outside of the genre, as in, they are good films, not just superhero films.

- Because of THE RULE, some innvoation will be needed to get to 25 selections, and that's, of course, the purported genius of the statute. Accordingly, creative ways to evade the ridiculous provision will be rewarded. For example, superheroes do not have to be superpowered, nor do they have to be based on comic books or on traditional characters.

I will be happy to take additional questions via PM.

/fin

What about the 2 HULK movies (Bana and Norton)?

I would guess that the Norton version is no longer eligible, as that was part of the Marvel/Avengers Universe (even though they replaced him with Ruffalo), while the Bana movie came before it . . .

Right. Norton movie out, Bana movie still eligible.

 

[Aerial Assault]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie

Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

Yeah.

Ficking stupid rule

:rage:

Isn't it fun how that rule is basically taking over the draft? :ill-conceived:

 

[KarmaPolice]

I am sure everybody's lists are getting destroyed, but did I mention that this is going to be hard after a bit?

Had Lebowski written down for dream sequence, Professional for shootout, Raging Bull for sports, and Fast Times for classroom scene.

and I take it the person doesn't have to be sleeping for the dream sequences?

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

How the hell can I pick the Godfather for this draft?

1. Adultery/sex
2. Drugs
3. England
4. Spies
5. Nazis
6. New York
7. Outer Space
8. Rock and Roll
9. Superheroes
10. No idea what this movie is about

Aaaah, here we go

Shocking scene

1:21 - Horse's head scene in the Godfather

WOLTZ

Hey, come on over here with me; I wanna show you something really beautiful. You do

appreciate beauty, don't you?

(then)

There you are, $600,000 on four hooves. I bet a Russian Czar never paid that kind of dough

for a single horse.

(then, toward the horse)

Khartoum. Khartoum.

(then, to Tom)

I'm not gonna race him, though. I'm gonna put him out to stud.

TOM

He's beautiful.

WOLTZ (to stablehand)

Thanks, Tony.

CUT TO: pan of exterior of Woltz' estate, music is a variation of the Title Theme, then we

see the interior of Woltz' bedroom. Woltz awakens in a pool of blood, and finds Khartoum's

severed head in his bed; and SCREAMS ah - ah - ah - ah - ah! -dawn

DISSOLVE TO: close-up of Vito Corleone's face; he nods -evening

VITO CORLEONE

You're not too tired, are you, Tom?

TOM

No, no. I slept on the plane.

 

[KarmaPolice]

2.11 Nicholas Cage, Adaption -- Multiple Performances in a Movie

Great movie, amazing performance, weak category. Had to take it before it was gone. I really only had one other role on my radar for the entire category.

Dammit, didn't even see this one posted.

 

[JZilla]

This seems like it's gonna be pretty hard, especially with all those franchise films being DQ'd

Good luck! We'll see a lot of people like Andy resorting to personal faves later on which should be enjoyable

 

[KarmaPolice]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie

Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

I have 0 comic book nerd cred - why is this, and what does it take out??

 

[joffer]

You can always edit your post mrs ramAnus

Make a pick - we're on the clock until 6:57 east coast bias time

2nd round 2.13 Phoebe Cates undressing in Fast Times at Ridgemont High - Dream Sequence

Exactly where my head was when I asked if it had to be a sleeping dream

 

[BobbyLayne]

For Karma Police:

DREAM SEQUENCES JUDGING CRITERIA

- How well does the dream sequence fit into the plot of the film? Cheap attempts to shock the audience will score relatively poorly compared to those sequences that are somewhat more profound.

- Was it obvious that the sequence was a dream? If so, it's not a dealbreaker, but if not, then extra points will likely be awarded.

- Is the dream sequence amusing, entertaining, scary, or of some intrinsic value in and of itself, so that it retains some sort of resonance even after it is clear that the character experiencing it is back to reality?

- Innovation is encouraged. The word "dream" has several meanings, and while, for the most part, this category shouid be about people having visions while they sleep, out-of-the-box selections will be considered for their thoughtfulness. They may even be rewarded for it. However, don't pick a scene with a bunch of a guys in a diner talking about their "dreams" in life. That's not what I mean. The rest is up to you.

- Chances hover at somewhat around 30-40% that I have not seen your movie and/or do not retain immediate command of all of the material in the sequence in question. ALL DRAFTERS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO LINK ME TO THE SCENE IN SOME MANNER. If you don't have time when you pick because of clock pressure, you can always go back and edit the post at some later point to include such a link. Ignore this suggestion at your peril.

Thanks, dreamies.

DREAM SEQUENCES JUDGING CRITERIA

- How well does the dream sequence fit into the plot of the film? Cheap attempts to shock the audience will score relatively poorly compared to those sequences that are somewhat more profound.

- Was it obvious that the sequence was a dream? If so, it's not a dealbreaker, but if not, then extra points will likely be awarded.

- Is the dream sequence amusing, entertaining, scary, or of some intrinsic value in and of itself, so that it retains some sort of resonance even after it is clear that the character experiencing it is back to reality?

- Innovation is encouraged. The word "dream" has several meanings, and while, for the most part, this category shouid be about people having visions while they sleep, out-of-the-box selections will be considered for their thoughtfulness. They may even be rewarded for it. However, don't pick a scene with a bunch of a guys in a diner talking about their "dreams" in life. That's not what I mean. The rest is up to you.

- Chances hover at somewhat around 30-40% that I have not seen your movie and/or do not retain immediate command of all of the material in the sequence in question. ALL DRAFTERS ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO LINK ME TO THE SCENE IN SOME MANNER. If you don't have time when you pick because of clock pressure, you can always go back and edit the post at some later point to include such a link. Ignore this suggestion at your peril.

Thanks, dreamies.

does the person have to be asleep? can't be a fantasy, daydream, hallucination, etc.? just checking.

You hit on exactly what I was trying to say. A classic "dream sequence" would mean the character was asleep, but fantasies, daydreams, and hallucinations will all be good selections here, and may even be rewarded depending on their innovation and the other criteria I mentioned. Nice question.

I do want to stress again that I like clever dialogue in movies. You don't have to cater to my whims and I think my judging efforts in the recent timdraft: songs edition illustrated that I can set aside personal preferences as much as most people while judging, but at the same time, just throwing that out there about the dialogue.

Pirates jacking off qualifies

 

[joffer]

I thought I'd hate the rule of one and done for the franchise, but i think it will end up making it more interesting, and harder

 

[joffer]

Godfather

Can't believe it lasted this long

 

[KarmaPolice]

Pirates jacking off qualifies

 

[BobbyLayne]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie

Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

I have 0 comic book nerd cred - why is this, and what does it take out??

The entire [SIZE=1.6em]Marvel Cinematic Universe is gone.[/SIZE]

 

[Tremendous Upside]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie

Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

Yeah.

Ficking stupid rule

:rage:

Isn't it fun how that rule is basically taking over the draft? :ill-conceived:

 

[KarmaPolice]

14. tish555 - OTC

15. timschochet

16. Karma Police

Looks like this is where we are??

 

[Time Kibitzer]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

Yeah.Ficking stupid rule:rage:

Isn't it fun how that rule is basically taking over the draft? :ill-conceived:

In what way? The only category that has a plenitude of franchise films is the Superhero category, but it's not like the franchise superhero films aren't incredibly stale and repetitive anyway. If we're gonna have the category we're way better off with the diversity imo.

 

[ScottNorwood]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie

Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

I have 0 comic book nerd cred - why is this, and what does it take out??

The entire Marvel Cinematic Universe is gone.

Damn... I was all over the Ant Man movie

 

[KarmaPolice]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie

Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

I have 0 comic book nerd cred - why is this, and what does it take out??

The entire [SIZE=1.6em]Marvel Cinematic Universe is gone.[/SIZE]

No problems there. Don't think Iron Man was that great, but it was the best of the bunch.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

2.11 Nicholas Cage, Adaption -- Multiple Performances in a Movie

Great movie, amazing performance, weak category. Had to take it before it was gone. I really only had one other role on my radar for the entire category.

For the sake of F-5, the film's name is Adaptation

 

[tish155]

2.14 Apt Pupil-Nazis

based off one of my favorite books, Ian Mckellan plays the role of Kurt Dussander perfectly IMO in the film.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

I intend having fun in this draft and damned be the scoring.

Monologue Scene

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Pretty sure "Christopher Walken monologues" could have been a category unto itself

 

[Aerial Assault]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

Yeah.Ficking stupid rule:rage:

Isn't it fun how that rule is basically taking over the draft? :ill-conceived:

In what way? The only category that has a plenitude of franchise films is the Superhero category, but it's not like the franchise superhero films aren't incredibly stale and repetitive anyway. If we're gonna have the category we're way better off with the diversity imo.

Bah. I enjoy the franchise superhero films. But in any event, it's not just that category that's being affected, and the rule is just frankly needless and annoying. But I'm also getting annoyed with myself for posting about it, so there's something I can control.

 

[Aerial Assault]

2.8 - Ironman -Superhero Movie

Robert Downey was such a great choice for this role. I especially liked that the character gains personal insight during the course fo the story. It has great special effects and nice humor touches. It works as a story even without the superhero factor.

and there goes about 10 movies with it

I have 0 comic book nerd cred - why is this, and what does it take out??

The entire [SIZE=1.6em]Marvel Cinematic Universe is gone.[/SIZE]

You're like that guy in, say, the movies who is completely all over everything. It's awesome. But if there was a sequel featuring him, well, then we'd be completely [remainder of post consumed by board malfunction]

 

[timschochet]

Howard Beale's monologue from Network- I will link when I get to a computer.

I'm as mad as Hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Howard Beale's monologue from Network- I will link when I get to a computer.I'm as mad as Hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!

First thing I thought of for the category.

 

[Aerial Assault]

For anyone interested, tim's pick was 2.15.

 

[Aerial Assault]

[second round; clock currently off but whatever]

2.16. Karma Police2.17. higgins2.18. hooter3112.19. Aerial Assault

 

[ScottNorwood]

Gambling Scene

- Needs to fit in with the movie and not be superfluous

- Needs to make sense (A bad gambling scene that doesn't make sense can ruin a movie if you're a REAL gambler). If a movie isn't meant to make sense as a whole, then I might give it a pass - as per the first criteria, context is important.

- Intensity and high sense of risk/reward is a plus

 

[mad sweeney]

2.14 Apt Pupil-Nazis

based off one of my favorite books, Ian Mckellan plays the role of Kurt Dussander perfectly IMO in the film.

Criminally underrated movie. Beautifully shot, well crafted and well acted, even by the soon to be dead junkie that they didn't even show on the Oscar memorium segment. Heath Ledger got to be applauded for dying as a junkie, but not Brad.

 

[Aerial Assault]

2.14 Apt Pupil-Nazis

based off one of my favorite books, Ian Mckellan plays the role of Kurt Dussander perfectly IMO in the film.

Wow! Great pick. Since I'm a genius, I didn't even realize it was based on a book.