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But it already does tolerate it. Every sport does. Like the examples I listed. Is an under deflated ball really that severe of a crime? Seems minuscule to me. I'd put it below stick 'em. And the fact that the report doesn't say he "definitely" did it, I think this is mind blowingly insane.
That was never going to happen. There is a reason the investigation took so long and the results published when they were.I think so, yes. The only reason why Brady was even on the field for the SB was because it wasn't possible for the league to do a thorough investigation beforehand. Theoretically, the SB should have been the first game of his suspension. If you're the sort of organization that believes in vacating wins, that's an easy call.For slightly deflated footballs? I'm not so sure.
NCAA would have vacated all of the wins imo NFL doesn't have the balls to do that.
Yep. This was never, ever going to happen before the marquee event in the NFL. No. Way.That was never going to happen. There is a reason the investigation took so long and the results published when they were.I think so, yes. The only reason why Brady was even on the field for the SB was because it wasn't possible for the league to do a thorough investigation beforehand. Theoretically, the SB should have been the first game of his suspension. If you're the sort of organization that believes in vacating wins, that's an easy call.For slightly deflated footballs? I'm not so sure.
NCAA would have vacated all of the wins imo NFL doesn't have the balls to do that.
I approve. Brady with his girlish, weak-griped hands would be throwing Manning like ducks all over the place.
I didn't mean to. I was trying to come up with an example of how this might be a bigger story and then Al challenged me about NBA stars. I'll drop it.
Think about it.....there's a little over two months between the SB and the draft. If they made a ruling that affected the SB or this years draft how is that good for the NFL? The perfect timing is right AFTER the draft so there is maximum time between ruling and punishment; 5 months prior to the season and a full year before next year's draft. The twitter and sports talk will be effectively minimized for both. This was very calculated.
Well not only that, but typically after the draft, is a dead time for the NFL. There's nothing really going on but rookie and team mini camps. Why not release this report when football news is slow to drum up interest again?
Suh said his feet were numb from the cold and that he could not feel he was on Rodgers leg.
The reason to release it when it's slow is to lessen the impact on the regular season.
You do know that his exact hang happened to USC, right? They were caught deflating footballs and you know what he punishment was? A fineI think inflated balls have a bigger impact on the game than stick'um, or O-linemen greasing up.
I have my own phone and if I want to get access to my company email they will give me access and require me to use a password every time I open my phone. The same thing with my previous employer. Both companies used to provide phones for their employees and really the only difference as I understand it is who owns the phone.
I don't think he does either. But did this really take 100+ days to put everything together? I think the NFL had the report and was just waiting for the right time to release it.
So evidence of a one-time event where the school investigated on its own, and disciplined the manager (albeit just throwing him under the bus) = an ongoing trend, multi-million dollar outside investigation, and the team being uncooperative in the investigation?
There is no direct correlation between those two things, though. No one has proven that it helps. And no one has proven how long they've been doing it. You just can't look at stats and say that they resulted in whatever thing someone did elsewhere.
Mine is encrypted and will wipe itself after five failed attempts. It also has a lot of options and programs locked out, I assume, to prevent viruses.
I think under-inflated balls are easier to grip, thus making it easier to hold, thus making fumbles less likely. I don't think we are breaking new ground with that concept, nor do I need Bill Nye to conduct a series of independent tests to validate that finding. As it is, I no longer give the Patriots the benefit of any doubt on this.
The text messages indicate it has been going on for awhile.This isn't a criminal proceeding. I think they used some common sense to connect the dots.
Works for me. If I were a New England fan, I wouldn't want that tainted banner staring at me every game either.
I guess it depends on the industry then as I know the companies I've worked for in the past did nothing but purchase the phones for their employees. I'm pretty sure the Pats didn't encrypt The Deflator's phone.
You can argue that Brady was uncooperative, but everything in the Wells report says the Patriots bent over backwards with cooperation. The two events are eerily similar to one another, even down to the past history of the organizations being known to be less than stellar. And unlike your assertion that the NCAA would have vacated wins, all they did was issue a fine.So evidence of a one-time event where the school investigated on its own, and disciplined the manager (albeit just throwing him under the bus) = an ongoing trend, multi-million dollar outside investigation, and the team being uncooperative in the investigation?
Funny that you choose USC, one of the more corrupt college programs, as the measuring stick here...
The Wells Report actually said the Patriots were very cooperative. Not sure why the NFL chose to say they did not cooperate.You can argue that Brady was uncooperative, but everything in the Wells report says the Patriots bent over backwards with cooperation. The two events are eerily similar to one another, even down to the past history of the organizations being known to be less than stellar. And unlike your assertion that the NCAA would have vacated wins, all they did was issue a fine.So evidence of a one-time event where the school investigated on its own, and disciplined the manager (albeit just throwing him under the bus) = an ongoing trend, multi-million dollar outside investigation, and the team being uncooperative in the investigation?
Funny that you choose USC, one of the more corrupt college programs, as the measuring stick here...
NCAA did nothing.You can argue that Brady was uncooperative, but everything in the Wells report says the Patriots bent over backwards with cooperation. The two events are eerily similar to one another, even down to the past history of the organizations being known to be less than stellar. And unlike your assertion that the NCAA would have vacated wins, all they did was issue a fine.So evidence of a one-time event where the school investigated on its own, and disciplined the manager (albeit just throwing him under the bus) = an ongoing trend, multi-million dollar outside investigation, and the team being uncooperative in the investigation?
Funny that you choose USC, one of the more corrupt college programs, as the measuring stick here...
Not exactly what it said.The Wells Report actually said the Patriots were very cooperative. Not sure why the NFL chose to say they did not cooperate.You can argue that Brady was uncooperative, but everything in the Wells report says the Patriots bent over backwards with cooperation. The two events are eerily similar to one another, even down to the past history of the organizations being known to be less than stellar. And unlike your assertion that the NCAA would have vacated wins, all they did was issue a fine.So evidence of a one-time event where the school investigated on its own, and disciplined the manager (albeit just throwing him under the bus) = an ongoing trend, multi-million dollar outside investigation, and the team being uncooperative in the investigation?
Funny that you choose USC, one of the more corrupt college programs, as the measuring stick here...
LINKNot exactly what it said.The Wells Report actually said the Patriots were very cooperative. Not sure why the NFL chose to say they did not cooperate.You can argue that Brady was uncooperative, but everything in the Wells report says the Patriots bent over backwards with cooperation. The two events are eerily similar to one another, even down to the past history of the organizations being known to be less than stellar. And unlike your assertion that the NCAA would have vacated wins, all they did was issue a fine.So evidence of a one-time event where the school investigated on its own, and disciplined the manager (albeit just throwing him under the bus) = an ongoing trend, multi-million dollar outside investigation, and the team being uncooperative in the investigation?
Funny that you choose USC, one of the more corrupt college programs, as the measuring stick here...
It goes on to say:
And the follow-up to that was that they were willing to do a phone interview, just not another face-to-face
Yes. Read the article I posted. They granted 4 interviews. When they came back and requested a 5th, the Pats said no.
The severity is largely linked to the spygate stuff. Their lack of cooperation there was even worse. A different team gets "caught" doing this and the punishment is different. I think it is fine to consider past transgressions when determining punishments.
I'm just going off what the Well's Report said. It explained the importance of this follow up interview with this:
Both trying to get a competitive advantage, correct?
Usually 5 to 10 games, which is the equivalent to 1 or 2 starts. 1 start out of the 30 or 35 games he'll start.
Exactly. If it's that noticeable, they'd know.
Comparing across sports never works well but pine tar high on a bat gives no advantage. This would be more like Brady wore his socks too high or something.More to the point, Brett didn't have some little system worked out that involved minions messing with the equipment after it was checked.
