Travis Henry Fans: COME GET ME! (1 Viewer)

[Das Boot]

I know not of what you speak....ldyellowboardstuffislongforgotten:

ldyellowboardstuffrememberedwell:I honestly thought you would have learned from last year.Portis carried me to a SB win, like tons of other FF owners last year.How can you guarantee something you have ZERO control over?If you want to wager, feel free. But don't say you guarantee it.I think Henry will be a borderline top ten this year.If someone handed me some cash and said I had to bet it, I'd guess he does make it, since he's the clear cut #1 on the Bills, and thus gets both the yards and goal line carries.But I don't guarantee it.Boot.

 

[Mahoney]

5 carries 7 yards.1.4 ypc

 

[GFLalsoRans]

5 carries 7 yards.1.4 ypc

So we're talking improvement over last week's 1.2 YPC. Yee ha!

 

[HangingInThere]

5 carries 7 yards.1.4 ypc

So we're talking improvement over last week's 1.2 YPC. Yee ha!

So, you think Travis Henry owners drafted him for all the yards?TD's, man. I'm not a huge Travis fan, but I can see why he got drafted when he did. In most leagues, TD's can make a running back's day.That said, I bet Travis owners would like to see a liiiiiittle more yards per carry....

 

[KevT]

So, you think Travis Henry owners drafted him for all the yards?

If they didn't draft him for his yards, then they should have just waited and picked up Moe Williams late. Of course, so far Moe hasn't had that many TDs.

 

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Portis, Clinton Williams, Ricky Tomlinson, Ladainian Faulk, Marshall Henry, TravisMcAllister, Deuce Holmes, PriestTaylor, Fred Alexander, Shaun Green, Ahman

Um.... You're missing the leagues leading rusher: JAMAL LEWIS....?! And Priest at 7?!?!?! I'm HOPING this list was from July.

 

[GFLalsoRans]

,Sep 22 2003, 09:28 AM]

Portis, Clinton Williams, Ricky Tomlinson, Ladainian Faulk, Marshall Henry, TravisMcAllister, Deuce Holmes, PriestTaylor, Fred Alexander, Shaun Green, Ahman

Um.... You're missing the leagues leading rusher: JAMAL LEWIS....?! And Priest at 7?!?!?! I'm HOPING this list was from July.

The point was that even in leagues that favor yardag the MOST (1/10) Henry is still a top 10 back after yesterday's debacle.

 

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I know the point....I thought this was a new thread...my bad...totally missed the post date

 

[tommyGunZ]

Been away from the boards for a couple of days. Glad to see this thread getting bumped.If Moulds and Reed weren't caught inside the 5 a couple of times 2 weeks ago, Henry wouldn't even be top 20 right now.Face it: Henry is a goal line RB with a fumbling problem. Glad I didn't waste a first rounder on him.

 

[Mike D.]

Been away from the boards for a couple of days. Glad to see this thread getting bumped.If Moulds and Reed weren't caught inside the 5 a couple of times 2 weeks ago, Henry wouldn't even be top 20 right now.Face it: Henry is a goal line RB with a fumbling problem. Glad I didn't waste a first rounder on him.

How exactly is a 1400 yard rusher a goal line back?If you feel this way, can you name any other backs who have had such monster rushing years who essentially were goal line specialists who had a fluke year, or is Henry in your opinion a unique case??

 

[tommyGunZ]

 

[tommyGunZ]

No luv?

 

[bentley]

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: tommyas much as we disagree in the FFA...you are one of my favorite posters in the Pool.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Thanks Master ***la.

 

[TenTimes]

If Henry goes down for the seaon in week 2, I win the wager.

What about if he goes down for the year in week 3? :rotflmao:

 

[tommyGunZ]

What about if he goes down for the year in week 3? :rotflmao:

Travis Henry supporters wouldn't cut me any slack last season when Henry finished 9th, ahead of Faulk and Green, both of who missed significant time due to injury.If Henry's out 4 weeks, no relief for Henry owners who refused to cut me slack last season.

 

[Mahoney]

DNP

 

[ahhhhhh]

Travis Henry supporters wouldn't cut me any slack last season when Henry finished 9th, ahead of Faulk and Green, both of who missed significant time due to injury.If Henry's out 4 weeks, no relief for Henry owners who refused to cut me slack last season.

PPG is a better indicator. this way injuries wont matter, if he aint playing, he aint in your lineup. also, all you are doing is spinning the #s and criteria to make yourself look good. also, when did green miss significant time with an injury? faulk missed significant time, but like i said use PPG. and even then PPG isnt the be all to end all, as henry was had in mid to later rounds last year and faulk was the clear cut #1 pick.

 

[Huskylaw]

Love the fish tacos at South Beach.

OT: This is just wrong ... very wrong..Don't all guys?

 

[CowboyFan]

Travis Henry supporters wouldn't cut me any slack last season when Henry finished 9th, ahead of Faulk and Green, both of who missed significant time due to injury.If Henry's out 4 weeks, no relief for Henry owners who refused to cut me slack last season.

your argument, which you have used for 2 years now, makes absolutely no sense. name any year when a top player in the league (at any position, let alone RB) has NOT missed some time during the year and i'll send you $100. just because you can name 2 guys that MAY have finished ahead of Henry last year, but did not play all 16 games, means absolutely nothing. health on a league level probably levels out most years, but for an individual, staying healthy is critical to finish among the best.

 

[Mahoney]

name any year when a top player in the league (at any position, let alone RB) has NOT missed some time during the year and i'll send you $100.

umm........Marvin Harrison and Randy Moss?Are you going to mail me the $100?I don't accept credit cards.....I'm not set up that way.

 

[redman]

I guess we all have our own little crusades. What happened, tG, did he bone your sister or something? I can only assume that you were piling on Edge two years ago when he was injured, saying he wasn't a top ten back. Likewise TD and Jamal Anderson in 1999, etc. Injuries aren't indicators as to talent. If you want to make your argument about Henry being untalented fine, but don't take credit for a "winning argument" because he can't play due to injury. That actually sounds like you're desperate enough to make your argument that you'll seize anything to do it. Why don't we do it this way: come up with some sort of per-game measure to apply for every game that Henry's injury status is "probable" or better, and base the bet on that. Otherwise it's pretty lame to rejoice over someone's injury.

 

[CowboyFan]

umm........Marvin Harrison and Randy Moss?Are you going to mail me the $100?I don't accept credit cards.....I'm not set up that way.

uhh, the discussion was about the top 10. short bus is to the Left (thats the hand your not using to rub one out)TG was arguing Henry was top 10 ONLY because Green & Faulk missed time.

 

[aaronr28]

Travis Henry: In 3 full games played, he has scored 7 TDs.Eat up TG...crow is tasty!

 

[tommyGunZ]

Does your fantasy league only count points in "full" games played?I'd imagine Henry is right around the #10 spot after today's performance.

 

[aaronr28]

Does your fantasy league only count points in "full" games played?I'd imagine Henry is right around the #10 spot after today's performance.

No, the Miami game should still count against him, but he got injured early in that game so I don't think it is a great indicator of his fantasy scoring potential.If you still think a RB who scores 7 TDs in 3 full games won't finish as a top-10 RB, you don't know jack about fantasy football. If you are predicting that he won't finish in the top-10 b/c of injury, then that is a different story. But, a healthy Travis Henry is a lock for top-10 status at the end of the year.

 

[tommyGunZ]

But, a healthy Travis Henry is a lock for top-10 status at the end of the year.

We'll see. That's why they play the games.I was absolutely wrong about Clinton Portis last year (I thought Gary would hold him off), but Henry fell like a rock in the second half of the season, just as I predicted. Only injuries to Faulk and Ahman kept my prediction from coming to fruition.Henry may prove me wrong, but I think his lack of talent will stunt his numbers enough to where he won't finish top 10.

 

[TenTimes]

but I think his lack of talent will stunt his numbers enough to where he won't finish top 10.

The problem is talent has no place in fantasy football. It's all about what system your guy is in. Henry is in a good offense which throws out the playbook and runs the ball when inside the 5, therefore even though he may not have 1/4th the talent of anybody on the San Antonio Spurs ( ) he's still a valuable fantasy commodity. Bills had the ball at the 2 yard line in OT. What do they do? Kick a FG right.. the most reliable way of ending the game right then and there. Nope, they run it twice with Henry.

 

[Tau837]

...but Henry fell like a rock in the second half of the season, just as I predicted.

Henry had the following numbers during his last 8 games of 2002:743 rushing yards (52% of his season total of 1438)131 receiving yards (42% of season total of 309)4 TDs (29% of season total of 14)111.4 fantasy points (43% of season total of 258.7 in standard scoring systems)I would hardly say that qualifies as falling like a rock. Quit trying to justify your silly Henry bashing of last season unless you can find some meaningful facts to back it up.

 

[Steelers4Life]

I learned last year that it's pointless to argue the worth of Travis Henry with TommyGunz. I'd rather just stick him into my lineup and let him produce for me most every week and not say a word about it.I mean, Faulk, Deuce, and Ricky owners will tell you that no other stud RBs other than Henry have bad weeks running the ball. We'll see how much attention Ricky's 21 carry, 38 yard performance today gets.

 

[CowboyFan]

tommyGunZ,hmmm, Portis & Henry....In the future, please send me a list of all the RB's you are sure a going to fail. I will then know who to draft & dominate my league.

 

[aaronr28]

We'll see. That's why they play the games.I was absolutely wrong about Clinton Portis last year (I thought Gary would hold him off), but Henry fell like a rock in the second half of the season, just as I predicted. Only injuries to Faulk and Ahman kept my prediction from coming to fruition.Henry may prove me wrong, but I think his lack of talent will stunt his numbers enough to where he won't finish top 10.

I wouldn't be bragging about a 50% success rate of your predictions, especially when your prediction for Henry last year wasn't exactly accurate. Sure, the entire Bills offense wasn't as productive in the 2nd half as they were in the first, but Henry hardly "fell like a rock".

 

[tommyGunZ]

Green and Faulk's PPG #'s were hurt by their injuries. Did you bother to look at the games Green missed last year? Didn't think so. Ahman missed 1/2 a game against the Bears, and missed full games against the Vikings and Lions. Those are games where stats are padded.In 1 pt per reception leagues and leagues where long TD's are rewarded, Henry finished 9th (Garner was higher).I don't have anything personal against Henry, I just happen to believe that more than any other back in the NFL, Henry is completely a product of the system. If Moulds and Reed continue to be chased down from behind, Henry will likely remain a borderline top 10 RB by vulturing TDs.

 

[aaronr28]

Tommy, just give up and admit you're wrong about Henry. You've already lost what little credibility you had.Whether he is a product of a system or not, Henry is an effective and productive fantasy RB. I don't think he is a top-10 NFL RB talent-wise. Even if he drops slightly out of the top-10 in terms of fantasy production, it will be because other RBs performed at very high levels. In a bad year, a healthy Henry probably finishes no worse than 15th overall simply b/c of the TDs he will score. In an OK year, he probably finishes around #10. In a good year, he has a good chance at top-5 or top-6 type of numbers.Time to move on and look for a new way to get attention.

 

[Maximus*]

Tommy, just give up and admit you're wrong about Henry. You've already lost what little credibility you had.Whether he is a product of a system or not, Henry is an effective and productive fantasy RB. I don't think he is a top-10 NFL RB talent-wise. Even if he drops slightly out of the top-10 in terms of fantasy production, it will be because other RBs performed at very high levels. In a bad year, a healthy Henry probably finishes no worse than 15th overall simply b/c of the TDs he will score. In an OK year, he probably finishes around #10. In a good year, he has a good chance at top-5 or top-6 type of numbers.Time to move on and look for a new way to get attention.

Aaron my man, its not even worth it to debate TGZ on this Henry stuff anymore. He already welched on his agreement during last year's marathon Henry Top 10 thread, and failed to admit he was dead wrong last year about Henry. You/I and everyone else in here who know him, just knows he's setting it up once again to welch and to do it again this year as he's adding all these caveats and excuses....yada yada yada to this thread.Bottom line, TGZ simply luves attention and he knows by saying wacky crazy and asine stuff on threads like a Henry one like this, he'll get it as he's successfully done again. So don't let him get your feathers ruffled as he did to me last year as he's maddingly frustrating to debate with....Just let TGZ say his crazy #### and he'll eat crow again when the year ends and Henry is Top 10 despite his injury woes....-Max

 

[Raiders Fan]

Tommy, just give up and admit you're wrong about Henry. You've already lost what little credibility you had.Whether he is a product of a system or not, Henry is an effective and productive fantasy RB. I don't think he is a top-10 NFL RB talent-wise. Even if he drops slightly out of the top-10 in terms of fantasy production, it will be because other RBs performed at very high levels. In a bad year, a healthy Henry probably finishes no worse than 15th overall simply b/c of the TDs he will score. In an OK year, he probably finishes around #10. In a good year, he has a good chance at top-5 or top-6 type of numbers.Time to move on and look for a new way to get attention.

Aaron my man, its not even worth it to debate TGZ on this Henry stuff anymore. He already welched on his agreement during last year's marathon Henry Top 10 thread, and failed to admit he was dead wrong last year about Henry. You/I and everyone else in here who know him, just knows he's setting it up once again to welch and to do it again this year as he's adding all these caveats and excuses....yada yada yada to this thread.Bottom line, TGZ simply luves attention and he knows by saying wacky crazy and asine stuff on threads like a Henry one like this, he'll get it as he's successfully done again. So don't let him get your feathers ruffled as he did to me last year as he's maddingly frustrating to debate with....Just let TGZ say his crazy #### and he'll eat crow again when the year ends and Henry is Top 10 despite his injury woes....-Max

How about talking about Onterrio Smith to TGZ.. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

 

[Mahoney]

18 carries 53 yards7 catches 35 yards0 TDs

 

[mcd]

18 carries 53 yards7 catches 35 yards0 TDs

Bad week for runningbacks. In my league that gives 1 point per reception, that performance actually moved him up from 11th to 10th ranked RB. Think where he would be if he hadn't missed 2 weeks.

 

[Steelers4Life]

I didn't see the game, but with Moulds out I HAVE to imagine the Jets stacked the line of scrimmage. Take a struggling offensive line and a stacked defense and I can't imagine there were too many places to run, let alone still having soreness from torn rib cartilage that only kept him out of one game.In PPG, he was top 8 heading into this weekend, and that's including the 5 carry, 7 yard, ONE quarter game against Miami. And after missing what basically amounts to 2 games, he was still nearly top 10 heading into this week. If that's a bust, oh well.I can't wait for the Bills to rush McGahee back and watch him struggle. I still think Henry has a big future in this league. I'm glad McGahee is feeling good, but there's a big difference between feeling good and being ready to play football. Edge would be able to tell him that.

 

[NJ OAK]

Listen....Tommy G or Tommy ###### whatever he prefers, is just disgruntled. I can speak on the subject. I had him two years ago and expected the world of him. He didn't produce...so I traded him for A. Smith who was having a typical mediocre year. Well, as it turns out...I won the Bowl because of the trade. Now..if I kept Travis I would've been f@#$%d. No Championship. All last year, TD after TD I was telling myself that he stunk...YPC was low, but now I truly think he is a good RB. Why else would Jamal worry about his playing time in college? Even after today I have to concede that he is a top 10 RB.

 

[NJ OAK]

Listen....Tommy G or Tommy ###### whatever he prefers, is just disgruntled. I can speak on the subject. I had him two years ago and expected the world of him. He didn't produce...so I traded him for A. Smith who was having a typical mediocre year. Well, as it turns out...I won the Bowl because of the trade. Now..if I kept Travis I would've been f@#$%d. No Championship. All last year, TD after TD I was telling myself that he stunk...YPC was low, but now I truly think he is a good RB. Why else would Jamal worry about his playing time in college? Even after today I have to concede that he is a top 10 RB.

who is monitoring this board? Since when is "######" censorable? What the Fu#$#@$%

 

[Paranoia]

It looks like you fools have been drinkin too much today. NJ Oak can't post and the rest of you still think Henry is a top 10 back.

 

[tommyGunZ]

53/18 = 2.94Travis is improving! If Henry ever gets that YPC up to 3.5, he'll go #1 overall in Fantasy drafts, right fellas?

 

[Steelers4Life]

As of now, Henry is about 15th among RBs in average points per week, and that includes his 1 game missed and other game in which he only played 1 quarter.In the 4 games he's actually played, his PPG would place him about 6th among RBs.Overall, he's about 14th in total points even after basically missing 2 games.Considering Moulds sat out and Bledsoe struggled, I wonder how much room he actually had to run.EDIT to add that in another league of mine, he's actualy at 11th in total points and 12 in points per game, including the 2 games missed.

 

[Mahoney]

According to my math his NFL Ranks right now are:26th- Rushing Yards.47th- Yards per carry.Yeah, I'm sure when it's all said and done he'll be a top 10 fantasy producer sitting in Honolulu in February.

 

[Drugrunner's Alias]

I don't know how I missed this Thread from all the way back in July, and all the countless bumbs? Anyway, I agree with GunZ

 

[Steelers4Life]

Everyone should be a "bust" as bad as Travis Henry.He missed one game due to injury, and only played 1 quarter of another one. In his OTHER 4 games, his PPG was nearly top FIVE, and today he absolutely exploded. (160+ yards, 2 more TDs, huge YPC... as of 7:00 EST)I love having him on 3 of my 4 teams, and those of you counting on McGahee taking his job - even next year - had better not take that for granted. The guy ran for 1430 yards last year with a 4.4 YPC, and his numbers this year are only going to get better.I find it amusing that a lot of people tend to expect Pro Bowler Travis Henry to fail, but they turn around and expect the world of Pro Bowler Michael Bennett.

 

[LordHusker]

Dude, I feel ya. I can't understand all the Henry hatin'. The dude has carried my team all year. He was my first round pick and I haven't regretted it one bit.

 

[jwvdcw]

According to my math his NFL Ranks right now are:26th- Rushing Yards.47th- Yards per carry.Yeah, I'm sure when it's all said and done he'll be a top 10 fantasy producer sitting in Honolulu in February.

Does your league give points for ypc or making the pro bowl?? If not, then who cares?Henry is a top 5 fantasy back when healthy...thats all I really care about.

 

[BassNBrew]

TommyGunz...How about busting on a RB that's on my roster? Everything you touch turns to gold.