Tush Push - for fans that love replay reviews and NCAA commercials (8 Viewers)

[Alex P Keaton]

This is happening in May.

No question. I'm more than a little curious and highly interested in what that proposal will look like. Words and all.

Oddly though, only half the league (by my math) supports making changes to the rules.

Either way, good stuff!

Only half the league supports the idiotically worded proposal the Packers put forward.

youd think since this was very obviously via Goodell as proxy, they would have had it worded cleanly.

They're working on it.

PFT feels the league lawyers are about to push the owner's tushes on this one. Maybe the pro-Tush Push team lawyers will quit whining and just find a way to stop it.

Lawyers will likely nudge the league to dump the tush push

Legitimate or not, fears of "catastrophic injury" will kill the play.

www.nbcsports.com

What’s stupid about all of this is that it is far more inherently dangerous when offensive linemen come slamming into defensive players in the open field who are engaged in tackling a WR or RB. IMO that is FAR more likely to cause serious injury than a rugby-style boring pileup.

 

[Terpman22]

This is happening in May.

No question. I'm more than a little curious and highly interested in what that proposal will look like. Words and all.

Oddly though, only half the league (by my math) supports making changes to the rules.

Either way, good stuff!

Only half the league supports the idiotically worded proposal the Packers put forward.

youd think since this was very obviously via Goodell as proxy, they would have had it worded cleanly.

They're working on it.

PFT feels the league lawyers are about to push the owner's tushes on this one. Maybe the pro-Tush Push team lawyers will quit whining and just find a way to stop it.

Lawyers will likely nudge the league to dump the tush push

Legitimate or not, fears of "catastrophic injury" will kill the play.

www.nbcsports.com

What’s stupid about all of this is that it is far more inherently dangerous when offensive linemen come slamming into defensive players in the open field who are engaged in tackling a WR or RB. IMO that is FAR more likely to cause serious injury than a rugby-style boring pileup.

Its just one of those things where people keep lying about the real reasoning and that is what pisses people off. I bet if Rodge came out with "Look, the play is boring, we don't want the league to go BACK to 1930s NFL style football, and yeah, its lame to single out one team, but is what it is, its ugly and I/many folks hate it so we are going to try to get it out"

When you start being DISINGENIOUS that is when people start calling you out on it.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

This is happening in May.

No question. I'm more than a little curious and highly interested in what that proposal will look like. Words and all.

Oddly though, only half the league (by my math) supports making changes to the rules.

Either way, good stuff!

Only half the league supports the idiotically worded proposal the Packers put forward.

youd think since this was very obviously via Goodell as proxy, they would have had it worded cleanly.

They're working on it.

PFT feels the league lawyers are about to push the owner's tushes on this one. Maybe the pro-Tush Push team lawyers will quit whining and just find a way to stop it.

Lawyers will likely nudge the league to dump the tush push

Legitimate or not, fears of "catastrophic injury" will kill the play.

www.nbcsports.com

What’s stupid about all of this is that it is far more inherently dangerous when offensive linemen come slamming into defensive players in the open field who are engaged in tackling a WR or RB. IMO that is FAR more likely to cause serious injury than a rugby-style boring pileup.

Its just one of those things where people keep lying about the real reasoning and that is what pisses people off. I bet if Rodge came out with "Look, the play is boring, we don't want the league to go BACK to 1930s NFL style football, and yeah, its lame to single out one team, but is what it is, its ugly and I/many folks hate it so we are going to try to get it out"

When you start being DISINGENIOUS that is when people start calling you out on it.

Isn’t that almost exactly what most people are saying though? Only a small handful of people ever try to claim it is illegal now (which is obviously not true) and few people claim this isn’t only targeting the Eagles (also not true - they do it the most by far).

 

[oldmanhawkins]

Since we’re banning stuff: https://www.change.org/p/ban-the-lambeau-leap-for-fans-sake

 

[Deamon]

Since we’re banning stuff: https://www.change.org/p/ban-the-lambeau-leap-for-fans-sake

This is awesome. Ban this illegal play, it's an injury risk and impossible for fans to stop it. Oh and it's ugly too, ban it.

 

[RandyDB]

Since we’re banning stuff: https://www.change.org/p/ban-the-lambeau-leap-for-fans-sake

This is awesome. Ban this illegal play, it's an injury risk and impossible for fans to stop it. Oh and it's ugly too, ban it.

They should ban the lambeau leap, along with banning or penalizing any celebrations before the final whistle.
First down and sack celebrations are the worst.

 

[FBG Moderator]

Please drop the lame shots at each at other.

 

[JohnnyU]

Since we’re banning stuff: https://www.change.org/p/ban-the-lambeau-leap-for-fans-sake

This is awesome. Ban this illegal play, it's an injury risk and impossible for fans to stop it. Oh and it's ugly too, ban it.

One of these days some crazy person will be waiting for the Lanbeau leap with a knife,

 

[midnight_green81]

If you agree that the Tush Push is some kind of "money" play, then your team should've taken advantage of it already.

If they didn't, then you could make a case for your coach not giving your team the best chances to be successful (win) and I am sad for you.

Move on.

 

[sm8680]

All in fun....

The Lambeau Leap, once a charming tradition, now feels like a relic of a bygone era especially when compared to the tactical brilliance of the Eagles' tush push. While the tush push showcases teamwork, grit, and precision, the Lambeau Leap is more about theatrics and fan interaction. It’s time to retire this leap into the stands, where players seem less focused on celebrating the game and more on inviting fans to get a little too handsy. The major difference? The Lambeau Leap is basically a player asking for a booty fondle.

 

[JAA]

Since we’re banning stuff: https://www.change.org/p/ban-the-lambeau-leap-for-fans-sake

LOL!!

I'm concerned about the potential for injury. It's not a football play. It's boring to watch. It's physically impossible for someone to stop so it's unfair.

 

[need2know]

Since we’re banning stuff: https://www.change.org/p/ban-the-lambeau-leap-for-fans-sake

This is awesome. Ban this illegal play, it's an injury risk and impossible for fans to stop it. Oh and it's ugly too, ban it.

doesnt seem to happen much anymore though. esp in the playoffs

 

[Ruffrodys05]

Since we’re banning stuff: https://www.change.org/p/ban-the-lambeau-leap-for-fans-sake

This is awesome. Ban this illegal play, it's an injury risk and impossible for fans to stop it. Oh and it's ugly too, ban it.

doesnt seem to happen much anymore though. esp in the playoffs

The ban on excessive TD celebrations may have had an effect on the lamb-leap.

 

[trader jake]

When NFL owners meet in Minneapolis in a few weeks they are expected to consider a revised proposal that would prohibit a teammate from pushing or pulling a ballcarrier anywhere on the field.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2025/05/04/tush-push-ban-nfl/

 

[Mitchie]

R.I.P Tush Push 2022-2025. Hurts value down, Saquon value up.

 

[oldmanhawkins]

Word is that the NFL is also trying to prohibit teams from having two players with the same first name, effectively making the Eagles have to choose between their star player on defense and their star player on offense, Carter and Hurts.

 

[need2know]

Packers still wont beat the eagles next season

 

[oldmanhawkins]

Packers still wont beat the eagles next season

Packers should have focused their off season efforts on scouting and preparing for the draft rather than rule changes to knock down their top competition. That was awful.

 

[Moonlight]

When NFL owners meet in Minneapolis in a few weeks they are expected to consider a revised proposal that would prohibit a teammate from pushing or pulling a ballcarrier anywhere on the field.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2025/05/04/tush-push-ban-nfl/

In favor of this. It’s consistent. I watched a game from the other league and saw two OL pull a running back into the end zone.

If you’re against rugby you’ve also got to be against tug of war.

 

[trader jake]

Packers still wont beat the eagles next season

Either the Packers (a team that successfully ran the Tush Push on offense with their TE many times last season) proposed to ban the play because they can't stand the Eagles and are doing whatever they can to stop Philadelphia's offense <or> the organization is led by a soon to be retiring president (Mark Murphy) that was willing to carry the water for the NFL to get rid of the play.

One or the other.

Packers still wont beat the eagles next season

Packers should have focused their off season efforts on scouting and preparing for the draft rather than rule changes to knock down their top competition. That was awful.

See above.

Also, Green Bay just ran an extremely well-received NFL draft experience for the entire league, so they appear to be doing just fine.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I've read that the league pushed Detroit to petition for changes to the playoff seeding and home field rights, and now there's speculation that Goodell encouraged the Packers lame duck president to make this proposal. Murphy is retiring next month. For me it's odd how the first proposal (which was terribly worded) was shot down so they just tweak it a bit and re-submit it. If true, we can expect it will probably become a reality. Hopefully they got someone smarter to draft this version.

 

[Ilov80s]

So dumb to change the rules because a play a team is running is working too well and nobody can stop it. It’s not like a cheat code, they can’t just score from anywhere on the field with it. I bet if a team found a kicker who could could make 80 yard field goals as consistently as other players could make XP they would ban that too.

 

[Terpman22]

It be what it be but if it turns truly "only one player can tackle one player" at a time de-evolution of the game, this is going to stink.

 

[oldmanhawkins]

Packers still wont beat the eagles next season

Either the Packers (a team that successfully ran the Tush Push on offense with their TE many times last season) proposed to ban the play because they can't stand the Eagles and are doing whatever they can to stop Philadelphia's offense <or> the organization is led by a soon to be retiring president (Mark Murphy) that was willing to carry the water for the NFL to get rid of the play.

One or the other.

Packers still wont beat the eagles next season

Packers should have focused their off season efforts on scouting and preparing for the draft rather than rule changes to knock down their top competition. That was awful.

See above.

Also, Green Bay just ran an extremely well-received NFL draft experience for the entire league, so they appear to be doing just fine.

Sorry for the lame shot at the Packers. They did do a nice job hosting. I hadn’t heard the report that Murphy was just a proxy….interesting

 

[Moonlight]

So dumb to change the rules because a play a team is running is working too well and nobody can stop it. It’s not like a cheat code, they can’t just score from anywhere on the field with it. I bet if a team found a kicker who could could make 80 yard field goals as consistently as other players could make XP they would ban that too.

So dumb to change the rules because a play a team is running is working too well and nobody can stop it. It’s not like a cheat code, they can’t just score from anywhere on the field with it. I bet if a team found a kicker who could could make 80 yard field goals as consistently as other players could make XP they would ban that too.

The NFL did change the rules about field goals many years back in 1974. The posts were moved back 10 yards from the front of the end zone to the back of the end zone. This was adopted in response to the increased number of fgs due in part to the influx of foreign soccer players who were better at kicking.
Moving the posts back did decrease fgs and opened up the end zone for more passing. Also player safety improved since the goal post being situated at the goal line led to collisions.

I expect the NFL to consider raising the crossbar on the goal posts in the coming years. 50 yard + field goals have exploded in number over the past five years.

102 in 2020
120 in 2021
154 in 2022
158 in 2023
195 in 2024

The league wants TDs. FGs are generally boring except for game winners with an expiring clock.
The NFL tried to install some life into the extra point by moving the try back from the 2 to the 15 yard line. Overall I see this as a transitional phase and the NFL eventually doing away with the extra point kick and replacing it with a variation of what is now a 2 point conversion.

 

[need2know]

So dumb to change the rules because a play a team is running is working too well and nobody can stop it. It’s not like a cheat code, they can’t just score from anywhere on the field with it. I bet if a team found a kicker who could could make 80 yard field goals as consistently as other players could make XP they would ban that too.

Its sad. The hate is real.
No injury data to back it up. Jalen will just run sneaks now and convert pretty much the same but now the injury risk actually goes up. Way to go.

I want to find the play the packers run the most on third and fourth down and submit to banning it because no one can stop it. Oh wait they dont have one. Nevermind

Hope the eagles come up with another one just to piss them all off

 

[belljr]

So back to 2006?

 

[Cowboysfan8]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

 

[eighsse2]

Did the rule change go through? I didn't know if it had even been voted on yet.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Did the rule change go through? I didn't know if it had even been voted on yet.

No. But the eagles hate is real. Sad!

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Did the rule change go through? I didn't know if it had even been voted on yet.

No, tushes will continue to be pushed.

 

[need2know]

Did the rule change go through? I didn't know if it had even been voted on yet.

No, tushes will continue to be pushed.

 

[need2know]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

 

[oldmanhawkins]

Did the rule change go through? I didn't know if it had even been voted on yet.

No. But the eagles hate is real. Sad!

This reads like a Trump tweet.

 

[need2know]

Did the rule change go through? I didn't know if it had even been voted on yet.

No. But the eagles hate is real. Sad!

This reads like a Trump tweet.

Never before have we seen the league ban a play because one team runs it well. Madness

 

[Cowboysfan8]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

 

[pinkstapler]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

 

[need2know]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

Its tough to make one because there isnt one

 

[Cowboysfan8]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

 

[JohnnyU]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I like how you said "couldn't care less". There are too many people out there using that phrase the wrong way by saying, "I could care less".

 

[Cowboysfan8]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I like how you said "couldn't care less". There are too many people out there using that phrase the wrong way by saying, "I could care less".

It’s nice to be appreciated Johnny

 

[pinkstapler]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I'm perfectly calm. Sorry if you got offended by me pointing out your statement insinuating it's the play's fault that opposing teams commit penalties to stop it was ignorant. I even gave a corollary example of why. Responding to a genuine, thought out criticism with something like "calm down" is pretty much text book gaslighting; something typically employed by narcissists and trolls. I'd like to imagine you're neither, but it's hard when that's how you respond to posts.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I'm perfectly calm. Sorry if you got offended by me pointing out your statement insinuating it's the play's fault that opposing teams commit penalties to stop it was ignorant. I even gave a corollary example of why. Responding to a genuine, thought out criticism with something like "calm down" is pretty much text book gaslighting; something typically employed by narcissists and trolls. I'd like to imagine you're neither, but it's hard when that's how you respond to posts.

I’m sorry my post that was responding to a poster quoting me and asking me a question wasn’t intellectually congruent enough for you. I thought I did a decent job in a few short sentences of saying that I don’t know the answer to his question. Alot of people don’t think it may be banned for no damn reason. Not really sure what you want from me here

 

[pinkstapler]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I'm perfectly calm. Sorry if you got offended by me pointing out your statement insinuating it's the play's fault that opposing teams commit penalties to stop it was ignorant. I even gave a corollary example of why. Responding to a genuine, thought out criticism with something like "calm down" is pretty much text book gaslighting; something typically employed by narcissists and trolls. I'd like to imagine you're neither, but it's hard when that's how you respond to posts.

I’m sorry my post that was responding to a poster quoting me and asking me a question wasn’t intellectually congruent enough for you. I thought I did a decent job in a few short sentences of saying that I don’t know the answer to his question. Alot of people don’t think it may be banned for no damn reason. Not really sure what you want from me here

Thanks; and all I wanted was just a reply like that to be honest. Didn't even expect a reply, but I also didn't want to devolve into some kind of "I know what you are, but what am I!" Pee-wee Herman level exchange either.

I know you and other divisional fans can catch a lot of flak in the Eagles thread or Eagles related topics, and sometimes I'd imagine it's unwarrented. But I wanted to let you know I wasn't trying to come at you, just that I disagree with the notion that a legal play provokes an illegal response. It wasn't that first time it's been brought up in the thread, and it wasn't just brought up by you. Just looking to counter that notion and not be met with an ad-hom/deflection/whataboutism/etc. I appreciate your genuine reply.

 

[oldmanhawkins]

I think you are both right here...

1. A legal play shouldn't provoke an illegal response
2. The league should take a closer look at the play and the subsequent responses

It wasn't just Luvu in the playoffs this past year. Vita Vea tried to rip off Hurts' head the year before. It would be pretty unfair to ban the play because it leads to unsportsmanlike conduct for the defense, but the league may feel that they have to do something.

 

[pinkstapler]

I think you are both right here...

1. A legal play shouldn't provoke an illegal response
2. The league should take a closer look at the play and the subsequent responses

It wasn't just Luvu in the playoffs this past year. Vita Vea tried to rip off Hurts' head the year before. It would be pretty unfair to ban the play because it leads to unsportsmanlike conduct for the defense, but the league may feel that they have to do something.

It sounds like they are going to at this point. I just hope they don't present the change with that kind of reasoning, or the increased risk of injury thing.

TBH I still don't really get why they started allowing it again in the first place. It seems like maybe it was because "it's difficult to officiate", but... that's the official's job. A fair amount of rules are still more or less discretionary. We will pretend there's a hard definition of what is a catch vs not a catch, or PI vs not. But really, especially when making at call at game speed, it's just a judgement call the majority of the time.

I don't love getting rid of it, but if there was a silver lining it will at least feel as though things are more equal between offense and defense. It always seemed to be a disconnect that it was ok on offense to push/pull teammates, but not on defense. And really, the past decade or so a lot of the rules and tweaks have made offensive lives easier, and defensive lives harder. So I guess finally a win for defenses.

 

[Deamon]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I'm perfectly calm. Sorry if you got offended by me pointing out your statement insinuating it's the play's fault that opposing teams commit penalties to stop it was ignorant. I even gave a corollary example of why. Responding to a genuine, thought out criticism with something like "calm down" is pretty much text book gaslighting; something typically employed by narcissists and trolls. I'd like to imagine you're neither, but it's hard when that's how you respond to posts.

Nail on the head.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I'm perfectly calm. Sorry if you got offended by me pointing out your statement insinuating it's the play's fault that opposing teams commit penalties to stop it was ignorant. I even gave a corollary example of why. Responding to a genuine, thought out criticism with something like "calm down" is pretty much text book gaslighting; something typically employed by narcissists and trolls. I'd like to imagine you're neither, but it's hard when that's how you respond to posts.

Nail on the head.

I suppose you reported me. Again

 

[Deamon]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I'm perfectly calm. Sorry if you got offended by me pointing out your statement insinuating it's the play's fault that opposing teams commit penalties to stop it was ignorant. I even gave a corollary example of why. Responding to a genuine, thought out criticism with something like "calm down" is pretty much text book gaslighting; something typically employed by narcissists and trolls. I'd like to imagine you're neither, but it's hard when that's how you respond to posts.

Nail on the head.

I suppose you reported me. Again

Never happened, but there you are back at the trolling. At least others are seeing it now too.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

The hate is real.

Everyone hating the poor eagles :(

Its not that bad but you must see how bad it iz to ban a football play for no damn reason

I think it’sa dumb play, but I couldn’t care less if they ban it or not
The incident against Washington is something to think about. I mean, the defense has to sell out to try to stop it especially at the goal line. Idk

No. They didn't. KC had 0 problems stopping the Bills multiple times in the AFC championship game without going off sides multiple times and trying to fly over the line. And the refs said as much when they announced if Washington did it again, they were just going to award the Eagles a TD.

Really a bad argument, not just in this situation, but in general. A legal act does not bear the responsibility of eliciting an illegal response. It's basically the some logical process as "I had to beat my wife because she burned my dinner". Not an Eagles fan and IDC if it's banned or not either, but at least make an intellectually congruent argument if you're going to make one at all.

I’m not arguing and I posted that I couldn’t care less if it’s banned or not. Calm down lol

I'm perfectly calm. Sorry if you got offended by me pointing out your statement insinuating it's the play's fault that opposing teams commit penalties to stop it was ignorant. I even gave a corollary example of why. Responding to a genuine, thought out criticism with something like "calm down" is pretty much text book gaslighting; something typically employed by narcissists and trolls. I'd like to imagine you're neither, but it's hard when that's how you respond to posts.

Nail on the head.

I suppose you reported me. Again

Never happened, but there you are back at the trolling. At least others are seeing it now too.

I’ve always thought ignoring other posters was dumb. You might change my mind yet.
Go away dude