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Updated: When does Randall Cobb become a must start WR again? (1 Viewer)

The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?

 
The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?
Cobb 4/99/1

Diggs 3/42/0

 
The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?
Nope. It doesn't. And where were you last week asking if it made sense when Cobb stunk up the field and fantasy box scores all around the nation? And the 3 weeks prior to that? Very doosherony posting on your part.

 
Yes it does make sense. It did before the game started. Cobb was going to break out. And I think even bigger things are to come.

Cobb over Diggs was an easy call IMO.

 
dirtyjay said:
TheDirtyWord said:
The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?
Cobb 4/99/1

Diggs 3/42/0
Fun game. Now do it for each of the weeks Diggs has started.
 
dirtyjay said:
TheDirtyWord said:
The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?
Cobb 4/99/1

Diggs 3/42/0
Fun game. Now do it for each of the weeks Diggs has started.
But was that the point of the thread?Diggs for as great as he had been, was due to come back down to earth. And Cobb had gone thru a tough stretch. Cobb doesn't suck and neither does Rodgers. At some point, the two of them were going to get their act together. It was a basic Buy Low/Sell High roster decision.

Someone chose to pooh pooh the idea as being non-sensical when it was presented last week. I was simply revisiting whether that sentiment still held water. For those who like their grapes sour, it apparently still does...

 
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dirtyjay said:
TheDirtyWord said:
The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?
Cobb 4/99/1

Diggs 3/42/0
Fun game. Now do it for each of the weeks Diggs has started.
But was that the point of the thread?Diggs for as great as he had been, was due to come back down to earth. And Cobb had gone thru a tough stretch. Cobb doesn't suck and neither does Rodgers. At some point, the two of them were going to get their act together. It was a basic Buy Low/Sell High roster decision.

Someone chose to pooh pooh the idea as being non-sensical when it was presented last week. I was simply revisiting whether that sentiment still held water. For those who like their grapes sour, it apparently still does...
Cobb's had one good game in the last 5. This one. No one ever said he sucked. Adams went over 100 today. That had some Jordy-effect. Gave defenses more than one person to worry about. Hopefulpy, Cobb's owners didnt get tio far in a hole these last four weeks and are still in contention and can benefit going forward.
 
dirtyjay said:
TheDirtyWord said:
The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?
Cobb 4/99/1

Diggs 3/42/0
Fun game. Now do it for each of the weeks Diggs has started.
Lets do it for who has done it longer and more consistently over their careers and lets do it for who has a longer history of success.

 
Cobb didn't break out. I watched the entire Packers vs. Broncos game. Cobb was the only one getting open, Rodgers had no time to get him the ball. Rodgers has actually missed Cobb quite a few times this year open for touchdowns. Including yesterday to tie the game.

 
dirtyjay said:
TheDirtyWord said:
The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?
Cobb 4/99/1

Diggs 3/42/0
Fun game. Now do it for each of the weeks Diggs has started.
Lets do it for who has done it longer and more consistently over their careers and lets do it for who has a longer history of success.
lol. If my fantasy league gave me points for what players did in past years, I'd give a crap.
 
True, the only thing that matters is the future. I'd rather have Cobb the rest of the way this season. They play the Lions twice, and none of the other matchups look too scary for Green Bay either.

I've started him every week, and will continue to do so as long as he plays.

 
Cobb didn't break out. I watched the entire Packers vs. Broncos game. Cobb was the only one getting open, Rodgers had no time to get him the ball. Rodgers has actually missed Cobb quite a few times this year open for touchdowns. Including yesterday to tie the game.
I've said this a couple times now. I own the stack in dynasty so pay a lot of attention and Cobb seriously coulda/woulda/shoulda had a TD or more in every game this season. Lot of bad luck effecting both of them so far. Narrative would probably be different if they hooked up on half of those.

 
dirtyjay said:
TheDirtyWord said:
The "always start your studs" thing is a joke.

Cobb is not the same just because of his injury but because they have zero receiving threats other than him. I could buy the "he'll break out soon stuff" if Jordy was around. Fact is he's not and expectations should be lowered. Starting him over Diggs for example makes no sense.
Make sense yet?
Cobb 4/99/1

Diggs 3/42/0
Fun game. Now do it for each of the weeks Diggs has started.
Lets do it for who has done it longer and more consistently over their careers and lets do it for who has a longer history of success.
lol. If my fantasy league gave me points for what players did in past years, I'd give a crap.
lol. If they gave points moving forward for what they did in past games this season, I would give a crap too.

 
Squintz82 said:
I guess some of you leaned that Norman does not cover the slot after-all.

https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/status/663793261895643137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
I did hear many people on ESPN and FS1 say Cobb would have a tough time going up against Norman. I thought these people knew their stuff, I do like them because I played a person who benched Cobb because he thought Norman was covering him, maybe they are the one who told him.
PFF stats and advice >>>> ESPN and NFL.com advice

 
It's over boys. Just saw this weeks nfl ticket promo. "Calvin Johnson and the lions come into Green Bay to face devante Adams and the packers". Whaaa ??!!!!

 
I'm out. Traded Cobb for fitzgerald and woodhead. I think Cobb has a great 2nd half, but that trade offer was just too juicy to pass up esp after losing foster and Lewis for the season.

Enjoy his offensive explosions that are sure to come starting this Sunday guys!

 
Bump

Cobb is the best slot receiver in the NFL. Which means nothing. He is not special just in a special situation. The situation has changed though so now he is being exposed.

 
Very good slot guy and it stops there. Never will be able to carry a team like a #1 yet he's drafted that way.

 
Nelson's injury, Lacy's blubber, Rodgers' mediocrity and a somewhat difficult schedule are all to blame. He'll get it going soon... probably a week later than we need him to.

 
Nelson's injury, Lacy's blubber, Rodgers' mediocrity and a somewhat difficult schedule are all to blame. He'll get it going soon... probably a week later than we need him to.
He will probably get it going vs DET at home.
Lol yup. Are we done wth the excuses yet? In his defense the entire packers offense looked horrific. Rodgers' stats were padded by the soft 4th Qtr defensive formations.

But yeah Cobb is a wr3 with wr1 upside in any given week this year. That's the best way to describe him in 2015. Good luck enduring his crappy performances week in and week out just so that you can benefit from that 1 in every 4 games where he does well.

 
From Yahoo:

2. Where have you gone, Jordy Nelson?

How badly does Aaron Rodgers miss Jordy Nelson? Week 10 (a crazy 18-16 home loss vs. Detroit) was just another example of the inability of the Packers receiving corps to get open - at least it was more forgivable against the vaunted pass defenses of Denver and Carolina, but certainly not against Detroit. Without Nelson's big-play talents and ability to make key chain-moving grabs in traffic, thanks to his great hands and towering size, Rodgers is struggling to find a rhythm (or go-to guy) in the passing game - who thought he'd become a QB that is dependent on garbage time (and his tight ends) to salvage his fantasy line?

In the case of 31-year-old Packers wideout James Jones, separation is becoming a glaringly obvious problem - he can't even manage to pad his numbers (0 catches on Sunday) during these garbage time sessions. Jones was enjoying the honeymoon phase of his reunion tour with Rodgers earlier this season, scoring six touchdowns in the first six games. But he's now gone scoreless in three straight games (thanks to a drop in the end zone late on Sunday), and has just 3 catches and 59 yards combined to show for his efforts in that span. Sophomore receiver Davante Adams has clearly moved ahead of Jones in Rodgers' aerial hierarchy, but that's not saying much as this is one of the most lackluster groups that Rodgers has had to work with in his tenure as Green Bay's starter. Jones looks cuttable and Randall Cobb, without the benefit of working in concert with a field stretcher like Nelson, has become much easier for defenses to key on.

Green Bay's rest-of-season schedule is far from daunting, but outside of Rodgers, there's no bankable commodities in this passing game.

 
I'm dropping him. Hopefully someone will get excited to see him on waivers, pick him up, and play him against me. Easy win for me.

 
Nelson's injury, Lacy's blubber, Rodgers' mediocrity and a somewhat difficult schedule are all to blame. He'll get it going soon... probably a week later than we need him to.
He will probably get it going vs DET at home.
Lol yup. Are we done wth the excuses yet? In his defense the entire packers offense looked horrific. Rodgers' stats were padded by the soft 4th Qtr defensive formations.

But yeah Cobb is a wr3 with wr1 upside in any given week this year. That's the best way to describe him in 2015. Good luck enduring his crappy performances week in and week out just so that you can benefit from that 1 in every 4 games where he does well.
I thought you traded him away and were not coming back, instead you just come to troll?

 
Nelson's injury, Lacy's blubber, Rodgers' mediocrity and a somewhat difficult schedule are all to blame. He'll get it going soon... probably a week later than we need him to.
He will probably get it going vs DET at home.
Lol yup. Are we done wth the excuses yet? In his defense the entire packers offense looked horrific. Rodgers' stats were padded by the soft 4th Qtr defensive formations.But yeah Cobb is a wr3 with wr1 upside in any given week this year. That's the best way to describe him in 2015. Good luck enduring his crappy performances week in and week out just so that you can benefit from that 1 in every 4 games where he does well.
I thought you traded him away and were not coming back, instead you just come to troll?
Never do say "I'm out of this thread". I said "I'm out" meaning I traded Cobb. I STARTED this thread. And regardless of whether I traded him away or not, I still have interest in Cobb and the packers in dynasty. In fact, I'm actively trying to trade FOR Cobb in my dynasty league rt now. I just don't believe he will be a consistent fantasy play ros in 2015.

So, after flat out being wrong on Cobb thus far, THIS IS what you come in here to say? To accuse me of trolling? Thank you for your immense conditions to this thread and the sp.

 
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"They are just not on the same page today"

Why are he and Rodgers simultaneously playing in two different offenses?

 
It's kinda weird. First, Jordy was gone weeks 1-3 and Cobb looked great. Then weeks 4-6 I watched every game and there was a minimum of one EASY TD that Rodgers missed him on each one of those games. Had two of those TDs been completed as usual, the narrative on Cobb would be a lot different. Week 7 was bye and week 8 was Denver. Week 9 was good. I'm still a believer and think that his QB has been strangely off target for about 6 weeks now...still holding out hope that A-Rod gets pissed and starts playing with a chip on his shoulder and we could see big things down the stretch.

 
Cobb is not a must start at Minnesota imo. I may bench him for Jordan Reed....except I don't like the matchup against the Panthers D.

 
Just for context, I am benching Randall Cobb in two separate "start 3WR" leagues this week.

One league I am starting Julio Jones,Allen Robinson and Danny Amendola in front of Cobb this week. (I have Martavis Bryant on bye as well)

In league #2 I am starting Julio Jones, Eric Decker and Danny Amendola in front of Cobb this week.

I actually think the recent losses by GB should help Cobb.

The Davante Adams heavy usage didn't work out last week, and Aaron Rodgers should spread the ball around more in the coming weeks.

If Cobb hasn't helped to knock you out of the playoffs (and I'm sure he has for some of us) then I think he should be more dependable in the coming weeks, but I do not like him a lot in this matchup.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if he had a solid game this week, after the crazy target distribution and Rodgers' inaccuracy last week, but I'm going to put him on the shelf this week though, for other options.

TZM

 
Just for context, I am benching Randall Cobb in two separate "start 3WR" leagues this week.

One league I am starting Julio Jones,Allen Robinson and Danny Amendola in front of Cobb this week. (I have Martavis Bryant on bye as well)

In league #2 I am starting Julio Jones, Eric Decker and Danny Amendola in front of Cobb this week.

I actually think the recent losses by GB should help Cobb.

The Davante Adams heavy usage didn't work out last week, and Aaron Rodgers should spread the ball around more in the coming weeks.

If Cobb hasn't helped to knock you out of the playoffs (and I'm sure he has for some of us) then I think he should be more dependable in the coming weeks, but I do not like him a lot in this matchup.

It actually wouldn't surprise me if he had a solid game this week, after the crazy target distribution and Rodgers' inaccuracy last week, but I'm going to put him on the shelf this week though, for other options.

TZM
You're more of a risk-taker than I am. If I had Amendola and Cobb in two leagues, I'd likely hedge and start each in a league.

 
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I may not play him the rest of the way. String together 2 good games and I may consider it but there's just not enough games left for me to gain back the trust. He's been flat out terrible. No way around it.

 
This is the usual threat of hyperbole and overreaction. Losing Jordy Nelson hurts, but it's not the main reason for Cobb's relative slump. This offense was perfectly fine in the early weeks. In fact, I remember lots of TV promos centered on Rodgers and the juggernaut that the Packers were supposed to be all year. FF owners have short memories!

The much bigger problem is the poor play of the O-line and the related absence of run game threat. Football is a simple game sometimes. Last season opposing defenses had to account for Fat Eddie being to able steamroll them for 5-6 ypc if faced with an undermanned front or if they sent too many rushers Rodgers' way. This season this is obviously not the case for whatever reasons, so defenses happily invest more in throwing Rodgers to the turf and covering deep.

The Packers are one of the smarter franchises in the game and I am quietly confident they will adjust. The Steelers have painted a good model how to use a Cobb-type of player paired up with a Devante / James Jones type. The Packers will plug in the OL holes, probably smack Fat Eddy back into shape and ultimately be fine come January. If I could buy Cobb low in dynasty, I would pull the trigger without hesitation, but no one in my leagues is selling.

 
January and beyond does nothing for re-drafters. This year is all that matters, and this year he's been hot garbage.

 

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