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Was anyone else reminded how bad Collinsworth is in the booth? (1 Viewer)

Pipes said:
I think he did a great job tonight. I especially like how he pointed out that Hester lined up illegally thus it appear Harris bumped him after 5 yards. That was a crucial part of the game.
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:goodposting: I thought his performance tonight was one of the better I've EVER seen. His wtf reaction to the hester TD pass re: the Packer safety who just nonchalantly let him run by him for the catch was great too. Guy shows week in and week out he knows the game and always is on top of stuff like that and actually contributes to the game experience rather than detracting from it. He was also the one who called the fake punt explanation when no one could understand why it happened. Guy was on his game tonight. :shrug:
 
There's always been alot of hate for Collinsworth for some reason. I think he does a great job.

And he knows the game very well. I enjoyed watching him play also.

 
Chris did a fine job. The illegal contact being "off camera" was a joke I think. There was no penalty and Chris was joking that we just couldn't see it on camera.

Again, all announcers make mistakes, but pointing out Hester not being lined up properly, and Knox quitting on the route for the last interceptions are what you want out of an analyst. Use your football knowledge to point out something that willnot be reflected in the stat sheet.

 
thehornet said:
For the people saying he said a lot of inaccurate things....Please tell me what they were tonight. Thanks.
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How about when he said Rodgers should have dove head first into two linebackers to get the first down when it was a second down play. He then compared it to Elway's head first dive in the SB, the situations are not even close. I think Collinsworth has some great insight but you have to pick and choose what he says.
 
CC is great

Al on the other hand needs to have people stop telling how great he is (he was great). He forgets its about the game, not about him and his little smart comments. Dude used to be good. Talk about mailing it in and cashing a check. He annoys me. :goodposting:

 
PacmanBomb said:
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The guy is good, if not great in the studio. But in the booth the man is flat-out awful. He creates his own reality and clings to it like his life depended on it. Just admit your original analysis was wrong and give the audience the correct breakdown. I remember how bad he used to be in the booth and then was pleasantly surprised by his studio work. But on the fly in the booth he flat out talks out of his rear.Now's where 20 people tell me I'm the only one. I hope not.
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I think he is pretty dismal. A few examples:-his analysis of line play is poor, his comments seem forced (a couple times he gave love to Urlacher and Urlacher did not have a big roll on the play)-he does not give a good sense of game flow, this was particularly noticeable in the first-half -- his comments are kind of strained-he had a few obvious miscues (i.e. recap queued up and he missed it, Al Michaels asks where was the illegal contact and he said "in the back, one of the safeties" which seemed like a mis-fire-last season he talked out of his ### about diuretic being a steroid and then backpeddled on his position -- he made a big fuss about it being a steroid over the objection of Warren Sapp; his comments were pretty costly since they were made in front of a big audience they created a lot of pressure on the NFL to suspend the williamses-he does not have good commentary on defensive play-calling, game-plan; his comments were "defense is going to be important to this team"Chris has a great voice, and good presence, but he diminishes my appreciation of the game. I found him distracting.
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Two whole examples and one from last season. GET HIM!!!
 
Phurfur said:
thehornet said:
For the people saying he said a lot of inaccurate things....Please tell me what they were tonight. Thanks.
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How about when he said Rodgers should have dove head first into two linebackers to get the first down when it was a second down play. He then compared it to Elway's head first dive in the SB, the situations are not even close. I think Collinsworth has some great insight but you have to pick and choose what he says.
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I actually enjoyed that comment, I like that he wanted Rogers to sell himself out for a victory. He also made an excellent point that the booth should have reviewed the spot of the ball on that play, the refs gave Rogers at least two extra yards and you can be that the Pack would have called a different play on 2nd & 3 then the one they called on 2nd & 1.
 
Phurfur said:
thehornet said:
For the people saying he said a lot of inaccurate things....Please tell me what they were tonight. Thanks.
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How about when he said Rodgers should have dove head first into two linebackers to get the first down when it was a second down play. He then compared it to Elway's head first dive in the SB, the situations are not even close. I think Collinsworth has some great insight but you have to pick and choose what he says.
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How is this inaccurate? it wsa an opinion. He thought he should have made a better attempt to get the first down.
 
CC is great. He points out players who makes mistakes and really hammers down on the football impact of bonehead plays. Nice change of pace from the "friend to everyone" typical analyst.

 
snorlax said:
Al Michaels is my favorite play-by-play man, and Collinsworth might be my favorite color guy. Al is always accurate, aware of the flow of the game, and sure to correct himself if he makes an error. Collinsworth made some really good observations tonight, especially at some critical points in the game. Both men are intelligent and easy to listen to. This is a huge upgrade over anything that they usually try to throw at us in these evening games, whether it be Madden or the ESPN crew. I might be more likely to watch a game that I might otherwise pass over because of this crew calling it.
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ESPN crew with Chuckie is great.
 
I thought he was fantastic last night. Way, way better than Madden was last year. Not afraid to call it like it is and that includes a Ref's call, which other analysts seem afraid to critique.

 
Collinsworth is the guy people love to hate because he was gifted enough to be on the football team as well as the debate team.

+1 for Collinsworth

 
MSULions said:
Pipes said:
I think he did a great job tonight. I especially like how he pointed out that Hester lined up illegally thus it appear Harris bumped him after 5 yards. That was a crucial part of the game.
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:football: I thought his performance tonight was one of the better I've EVER seen. His wtf reaction to the hester TD pass re: the Packer safety who just nonchalantly let him run by him for the catch was great too. Guy shows week in and week out he knows the game and always is on top of stuff like that and actually contributes to the game experience rather than detracting from it. He was also the one who called the fake punt explanation when no one could understand why it happened. Guy was on his game tonight. :shrug:
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;) Just awesome job by him, especially on the fake punt thing.
 
I don't think he's very good, but probably in the top 3. Most announcers are terrible. I'm MUCH more of a NFL fan than college, but why do college announcers seem so much better?

 
benbadman said:
CC is great. He points out players who makes mistakes and really hammers down on the football impact of bonehead plays. Nice change of pace from the "friend to everyone" typical analyst.
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You ain't just a kidding. He buried Nick Collins for getting beat deep last night. Just embarrassed the hell out of him. Chris Collinsworth is to the NFL booth what Johnny Miller is to the PGA booth. Just ruthless.
 
I enjoyed Colinsworth too and am much happier watching the game with him in the booth.

For those adding/subtracting points for his performince, though, don't give credit him full credit for the "Rodgers slide" thing. Yes, he astutely noticed that the spot wasn't accurate, but incorrectly stated that Lovie should challenge the spot until Al subtly corrected him that the booth needed to do it. Nit-picking, but I want to make sure his report card is accurate. :goodposting:

 
Grigs Allmoon said:
I don't think he's very good, but probably in the top 3. Most announcers are terrible. I'm MUCH more of a NFL fan than college, but why do college announcers seem so much better?
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I think in the NFL there is more pressure to put a "name" in the booth rather than the best announcers. I can't see Dennis Miller getting hired to do color for a college game.However, it's not all good, last week watching the Georgia - Ok State game, I had to just hit the mute button with that complete tool, Matt Millen, in the booth. ;)
 
jafo said:
I thought he did good. If you thought he was bad who would you rather see in the booth?
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I like him, all I am sayig is that everything he says is not accurate. With all the crap we have in the booth he is a breath of fresh air.
 
Pipes said:
I think he did a great job tonight. I especially like how he pointed out that Hester lined up illegally thus it appear Harris bumped him after 5 yards. That was a crucial part of the game.
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Regardless of where Hester was lined up, that call was absolute horse####. Now I gotta spend a few more weeks listening to my buddy tell me how the refs manipulate the games to cover an agenda, and quite frankly I have neither the inclination or the ammunition to contradict him. Crying :scared: and cramming my head in the sand only goes so far...
 
scrumptrulescent said:
benbadman said:
CC is great. He points out players who makes mistakes and really hammers down on the football impact of bonehead plays. Nice change of pace from the "friend to everyone" typical analyst.
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You ain't just a kidding. He buried Nick Collins for getting beat deep last night. Just embarrassed the hell out of him. Chris Collinsworth is to the NFL booth what Johnny Miller is to the PGA booth. Just ruthless.
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Also, when Cutler threw that 3rd interception and just heaved it into the middle of the field into a swarm of Bears, and the comparison to Favre.. that was great.Yeah it was a good broadcast and looking forward to more.Don't get me wrong I enjoy Madden for what he brings to the table also.
 
benbadman said:
scrumptrulescent said:
benbadman said:
CC is great. He points out players who makes mistakes and really hammers down on the football impact of bonehead plays. Nice change of pace from the "friend to everyone" typical analyst.
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You ain't just a kidding. He buried Nick Collins for getting beat deep last night. Just embarrassed the hell out of him. Chris Collinsworth is to the NFL booth what Johnny Miller is to the PGA booth. Just ruthless.
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Also, when Cutler threw that 3rd interception and just heaved it into the middle of the field into a swarm of Bears, and the comparison to Favre.. that was great.Yeah it was a good broadcast and looking forward to more.Don't get me wrong I enjoy Madden for what he brings to the table also.
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Not to mention the "I have no idea what Desmond Clark is doing out there." comment. Called him out for cutting of 2 routes, the 2nd which would have been an easy walk in TD in the back of the end zone.I like Collinsworth. He's not afraid to just flat out hammer a guy for making poor choices, in protection, route running, or QB play.
 
On the 20 yard gain from sanchez to edwards to put them in line for the winning field goad this weekend, Collinsworth called it (or said they MUST exploit that) 1 or 2 plays prior to the play. That in itself was one of the greatest bits of color commentary ever. To see it materialize clearly tells me he understads so much more of the game then many around him. Hats off to that, and thanks for tipping us why it needed to happen. Personally I thought he was a poor mans Largent, never quite good enough...clearly I see why he made it so long. he gets it.

 
I like him, he says what he feels. Now if you want suckass broadcasting...watch Joe Buck and Aikman, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 
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DepthCharts said:
On the 20 yard gain from sanchez to edwards to put them in line for the winning field goad this weekend, Collinsworth called it (or said they MUST exploit that) 1 or 2 plays prior to the play. That in itself was one of the greatest bits of color commentary ever. To see it materialize clearly tells me he understads so much more of the game then many around him. Hats off to that, and thanks for tipping us why it needed to happen. Personally I thought he was a poor mans Largent, never quite good enough...clearly I see why he made it so long. he gets it.
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Meh. I think you see that quite a bit. It's not the first time I've seen the ex-coach or ex-player say "They're setting up the D for _______ " or "They'll be looking to go to __________ in this situation". Edwards had already shown he could beat Cromartie(?) in man coverage on an occasion or two prior in the game. It's no different than someone saying that Minny is getting ready to run a play-action or that Vick is just waiting to get Jackson 1 on 1 on the edge before he takes his shot deep.I think this case stands out because it was such a critical play in such a big game. Collinsworth gets credit for his armchair OC analysis, don't get me wrong. But it was such an important play, it probably bolsters his rep more than it needs to. The thing is, IIRC, he made that same comment a time or two prior to that particular instant. Just like the example of taking a shot deep, if your analysis is solid and you repeat it often enough, you're going to be right at some point.I think Collinsworth is pretty good at color when it's concerning WR-related stuff, but his analysis of other aspects of the game doesn't amaze me.But I was a little dissappointed in him earlier in the season when that rash of concussions broke out. He's berating a WR in a game for sitting down in the zone seam and trying to turn upfield from a stop rather than continuing to run at speed across and through the zones. This is after other analysts that prior week are talking about how WR concussions are coming from players not knowing that they should slow up or stop in the zone seams and then turn upfield with the catch. Sterling Sharp in particular was saying that these young players are running their routes incorrectly against zones (running them like they are in man coverage) and are essentially running right into the knockout blow from the defender that's just sitting there waiting on the WR to cross into his zone.
 
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JamesTheScot said:
DepthCharts said:
On the 20 yard gain from sanchez to edwards to put them in line for the winning field goad this weekend, Collinsworth called it (or said they MUST exploit that) 1 or 2 plays prior to the play. That in itself was one of the greatest bits of color commentary ever. To see it materialize clearly tells me he understads so much more of the game then many around him. Hats off to that, and thanks for tipping us why it needed to happen. Personally I thought he was a poor mans Largent, never quite good enough...clearly I see why he made it so long. he gets it.
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Meh. I think you see that quite a bit. It's not the first time I've seen the ex-coach or ex-player say "They're setting up the D for _______ " or "They'll be looking to go to __________ in this situation". Edwards had already shown he could beat Cromartie(?) in man coverage on an occasion or two prior in the game. It's no different than someone saying that Minny is getting ready to run a play-action or that Vick is just waiting to get Jackson 1 on 1 on the edge before he takes his shot deep.I think this case stands out because it was such a critical play in such a big game. Collinsworth gets credit for his armchair OC analysis, don't get me wrong. But it was such an important play, it probably bolsters his rep more than it needs to. The thing is, IIRC, he made that same comment a time or two prior to that particular instant. Just like the example of taking a shot deep, if your analysis is solid and you repeat it often enough, you're going to be right at some point.I think Collinsworth is pretty good at color when it's concerning WR-related stuff, but his analysis of other aspects of the game doesn't amaze me.But I was a little dissappointed in him earlier in the season when that rash of concussions broke out. He's berating a WR in a game for sitting down in the zone seam and trying to turn upfield from a stop rather than continuing to run at speed across and through the zones. This is after other analysts that prior week are talking about how WR concussions are coming from players not knowing that they should slow up or stop in the zone seams and then turn upfield with the catch. Sterling Sharp in particular was saying that these young players are running their routes incorrectly against zones (running them like they are in man coverage) and are essentially running right into the knockout blow from the defender that's just sitting there waiting on the WR to cross into his zone.
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Compared to any of the jokers in the booth for Thursday Night Football, the gushing from Dierdorf, or the general pompousness of Simms, I'll take Collinsworth anyday.
 
ON Another note

Did anyone hear Mayock in the booth for the early game ??

thought he did an excellent job.

 
jojoh07 said:
ON Another note Did anyone hear Mayock in the booth for the early game ??thought he did an excellent job.
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I though Mayock sounded like he worked in the front office/public relations department of the Seahawks, but I'm a New Orleans homer and was in distress watching that game, so I may be prejudiced.
 
I like Collinsworth and Mayock

- Collinsworth actually gives an opinion - most other analysts sit on the fence and spit out cliche after cliche . . .

 
Ballstein said:
I like him, he says what he feels. Now if you want suckass broadcasting...watch Joe Buck and Aikman, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Buck and Aikman should have been forever banned from the broadcast booth after their botching of the helmet catch.
 
Collinsworth and Mayock are both very good. They offer insight and pick up things much quicker than most out there.

Collinsworth is brutally honest and it is nice to hear. He will call players out for having bad games, doing dumb things, but offers insight as to why it is happening. He also is on top of the teams/players he is covering and you can tell he has put in the work prior to the games. He is easily my favorite out there at the moment.

 
CC seems to try and suck up to Al way too much. Another thing is every hard hit CC says at least five times a game "That may have been helmet to helmet" Let the NFL decide what is helmet to helmet.

Other than that he does a nice job. Mayock is turning into my favorite announcer.

 
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CC sucks! Anytime a player makes a bad play or mistake, he turns super dramatic saying "You can't do that!" or "That is gonna cost his team dearly" etc which is fair analysis except for the dramatic tone and usually repeating it 14 times with no acknowledgment of the part where these players are moving a breakneck speed and human error occurs........so stop acting like you have never made a mistake Cris, ya #####! So easy to be right in hindsight.

Or maybe its the part where his dramatic response has no levels meaning that he acts exactly the same when a player drops a pass that hit him in the hands (bad, yes) as when a player does some selfish nonsense like throw a punch that gets his team penalized 15 yards or whatever. The latter deserves a "WTF are you doing loser!" whereas the first is more of a "that is unfortunate and bet that player wish he could do that over again"........but not in Cris' world.

Madden at least provided some humor with his insanity.

 
Agent575 said:
CC sucks! Anytime a player makes a bad play or mistake, he turns super dramatic saying "You can't do that!" or "That is gonna cost his team dearly" etc which is fair analysis except for the dramatic tone and usually repeating it 14 times with no acknowledgment of the part where these players are moving a breakneck speed and human error occurs........so stop acting like you have never made a mistake Cris, ya #####! So easy to be right in hindsight.Or maybe its the part where his dramatic response has no levels meaning that he acts exactly the same when a player drops a pass that hit him in the hands (bad, yes) as when a player does some selfish nonsense like throw a punch that gets his team penalized 15 yards or whatever. The latter deserves a "WTF are you doing loser!" whereas the first is more of a "that is unfortunate and bet that player wish he could do that over again"........but not in Cris' world.Madden at least provided some humor with his insanity.
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I think you have Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth confused.
 
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