Where Will Matt's Castle Be? (1 Viewer)

[bengalboy]

Cassel obviously wrote his ticket last night to one of six destinations. Which team will roll the dice on him as their starter next year?

Detroit

Minnesota

Carolina

SF

Miami

Tampa Bay

I'm hoping he lands in either Detroit or Carolina where he'd have a top 5 WR to fling it to, though it doen't seem to matter (ala Randy Moss with his measely 3 grabs last night).

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Probably as a backup on the Patriots. He may actually be a starting QB against next year for the Pats. Brady is no lock to be able to return at the begining of the season.

 

[bengalboy]

Probably as a backup on the Patriots. He may actually be a starting QB against next year for the Pats. Brady is no lock to be able to return at the begining of the season.

Will the Pats be able to afford him now?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Why is Miami on that list?

 

[Mr. Peterson]

Cassel obviously wrote his ticket last night to one of six destinations. Which team will roll the dice on him as their starter next year?

Detroit

Minnesota

Carolina

SF

Miami

Tampa Bay

I'm hoping he lands in either Detroit or Carolina where he'd have a top 5 WR to fling it to, though it doen't seem to matter (ala Randy Moss with his measely 3 grabs last night).

Do you mean dump it off to? Cassell is not a very good QB. Just had a very good game last night.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

NE backup for sure.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Probably as a backup on the Patriots. He may actually be a starting QB against next year for the Pats. Brady is no lock to be able to return at the begining of the season.

Of course he's a lock; it's not like he's some limp-wristed prima donna who misses time every time he gets a boo boo on his wittle pinky.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Probably as a backup on the Patriots. He may actually be a starting QB against next year for the Pats. Brady is no lock to be able to return at the begining of the season.

Of course he's a lock; it's not like he's some limp-wristed prima donna who misses time every time he gets a boo boo on his wittle pinky.

Tom Brady IS every bit the limp-wristed prima donna Romo is and more

 

[jamny]

Why is Miami on that list?

 

[Kyzersosik]

Cassel obviously wrote his ticket last night to one of six destinations. Which team will roll the dice on him as their starter next year?

Detroit

Minnesota

Carolina

SF

Miami

Tampa Bay

I'm hoping he lands in either Detroit or Carolina where he'd have a top 5 WR to fling it to, though it doen't seem to matter (ala Randy Moss with his measely 3 grabs last night).

Do you mean dump it off to? Cassell is not a very good QB. Just had a very good game last night.

I don`t think a lot of people around the NFL feel this way. It`s obvious, the kid is getting better and more comfortable every start. Belichick saw the potential, took a chance, and looks like he AGAIN knew what he was doing. Size, brains, and NFL starting ability with a bright future ahead. Where he ends up, who knows? Hope it`s N E but he`ll definetly have options.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

 

[Ozymandias]

He'll be signed by the Jets to replace Favre when he retires at the end of this year.

Then, when Favre has second, third and fourth thoughts, he'll be a backup again.

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre Wide Receiver.

 

[Super King]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre Wide Receiver.

Boggles the mind.

 

[puckalicious]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre FANTASY Wide Receiver.

You missed a word there.

 

[mchaps55]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

In my opinion he is as good as gone next year. He has played exceptional and some team will give him the money he is looking for that the Pats won't. He knows he has an opportunity to be a starting qb and its not in NE. With the shortage on good QB's in the league something will happen and there is alot of examples in the past where backup qbs flourish and land a starting gig. See Scott Mitchell in Miami when he took over for Marino when he was injured. There is prb better examples than that but I'm a Dolphins fan and thats the first thing that popped into head.

 

[Super King]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre FANTASY Wide Receiver.

You missed a word there.

But still, all you have to do is huck it up to Moss. How many bad QB's has he made look like All Pro's if you just look at their stat line.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre FANTASY Wide Receiver.

You missed a word there.

But still, all you have to do is huck it up to Moss. How many bad QB's has he made look like All Pro's if you just look at their stat line.

Other than Frerotte I can't think of any.

 

[BespokeJort]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre FANTASY Wide Receiver.

You missed a word there.

But still, all you have to do is huck it up to Moss. How many bad QB's has he made look like All Pro's if you just look at their stat line.

Other than Frerotte I can't think of any.

Culpepper?

 

[BeTheMatch]

All this talk about Matt Cassel taking the reigns of some franchise next year reminds me of Rob Johnson and Scott Mitchell, in addition to several other guys I can't remember for obvious reasons.

 

[gianmarco]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

In my opinion he is as good as gone next year. He has played exceptional

I stopped reading here. You and I must be watching a different Matt Cassel. Even yesterday, his final #'s looked great (they should after all his attempts), but he was brutally awful to watch.

 

[millertyme1]

He'll be back in NE next year unless someone ponies up the picks after they franchise him.

He'll wind up elsewhere in 2010 unless Brady is unable to come back.

 

[nashua55]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre FANTASY Wide Receiver.

You missed a word there.

But still, all you have to do is huck it up to Moss. How many bad QB's has he made look like All Pro's if you just look at their stat line.

Other than Frerotte I can't think of any.

Culpepper?

Jeff George?

 

[travdogg]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

In my opinion he is as good as gone next year. He has played exceptional and some team will give him the money he is looking for that the Pats won't. He knows he has an opportunity to be a starting qb and its not in NE. With the shortage on good QB's in the league something will happen and there is alot of examples in the past where backup qbs flourish and land a starting gig. See Scott Mitchell in Miami when he took over for Marino when he was injured. There is prb better examples than that but I'm a Dolphins fan and thats the first thing that popped into head.

Trent Green has done it twice. He replaced Frerotte in 98' with the Skins and Warner in 01' with St. Louis. Matt Schaub is another example.While some(Rob Johnson and Mitchell to a lesser extent) haven't worked out, its not unheard of at all for one teams backup to become another teams starter and be productive.

Personally, I'd say its a 3-team race between New England, Detroit and Minnesota. I bring up Detroit and Minnesota for 2 reasons. First they both have issues at QB and second they both are likely to have new coaches next season(unless Minnesota sneaks into the playoffs.) There is a good chance Josh McDaniels is looked at for a head coaching job, especially by a team like Detroit who may be looking to snag some of that Patriots magic. New coaches like to bring in their own guys and it seems like a pretty natural fit to me.

Just a thought.

 

[r0llin_game]

Jeff Blake?

 

[Michael Brown]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre FANTASY Wide Receiver.

You missed a word there.

But still, all you have to do is huck it up to Moss. How many bad QB's has he made look like All Pro's if you just look at their stat line.

Other than Frerotte I can't think of any.

Culpepper?

Cunningham too.

 

[-OZ-]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre FANTASY Wide Receiver.

You missed a word there.

But still, all you have to do is huck it up to Moss. How many bad QB's has he made look like All Pro's if you just look at their stat line.

Cassel has made Moss mediocre in FF, but Moss has still helped Cassel look like an all-pro by stats:30/51 400 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT along with 8/62 running. That's a great day for any QB.

 

[The Shizzle]

This year, I would rather have Cassel than:

Tyler Thigpen

Damon Huard

Brody Croyle

Sage Rosenfels

Matt Schaub

David Garrard

Jeff Garcia

Shaun Hill

JT O'Sullivan

Chad Pennington

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Brady Quinn

Derek Anderson

Seneca Wallace

Rex Grossman

Kyle Orton

Gus Frerotte

Tavaris Jackson

Jon Kitna

Daunte Culpepper

JaMarcus Russell

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

In my opinion he is as good as gone next year. He has played exceptional and some team will give him the money he is looking for that the Pats won't. He knows he has an opportunity to be a starting qb and its not in NE. With the shortage on good QB's in the league something will happen and there is alot of examples in the past where backup qbs flourish and land a starting gig. See Scott Mitchell in Miami when he took over for Marino when he was injured. There is prb better examples than that but I'm a Dolphins fan and thats the first thing that popped into head.

Trent Green has done it twice. He replaced Frerotte in 98' with the Skins and Warner in 01' with St. Louis. Matt Schaub is another example.While some(Rob Johnson and Mitchell to a lesser extent) haven't worked out, its not unheard of at all for one teams backup to become another teams starter and be productive.

Personally, I'd say its a 3-team race between New England, Detroit and Minnesota. I bring up Detroit and Minnesota for 2 reasons. First they both have issues at QB and second they both are likely to have new coaches next season(unless Minnesota sneaks into the playoffs.) There is a good chance Josh McDaniels is looked at for a head coaching job, especially by a team like Detroit who may be looking to snag some of that Patriots magic. New coaches like to bring in their own guys and it seems like a pretty natural fit to me.

Just a thought.

There is a lot of bad blood between Minn and NE front offices, so I think Detroit is the correct answer.Plus this way NE get's Detroits #1 pick.

 

[domvin]

Cassel has turned Randy Moss into a mediocre Wide Receiver.

Boggles the mind.

Hats off to you for having Roger as your avatar.

 

[gianmarco]

This year, I would rather have Cassel than:



Tyler Thigpen

Damon Huard

Brody Croyle

Sage Rosenfels

Matt Schaub

David Garrard

Jeff Garcia

Shaun Hill

JT O'Sullivan

Chad Pennington

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Brady Quinn

Derek Anderson

Seneca Wallace

Rex Grossman

Kyle Orton

Gus Frerotte

Tavaris Jackson

Jon Kitna

Daunte Culpepper

JaMarcus Russell

Fixed for guys outperforming Cassel.

 

[Serenity Now]

Cassel will be an UFA after this season. I'd be shocked if the Pats used the franchise tag on a guy they expect to be a backup. They'd have to pay him the average of the top 5 QBs in the league to keep him.

The person who says "you just have to chuck the ball up to Moss" is showing how little he knows about football, IMO.

Cassel's not the next coming of God, but he's improving with every start he makes and has played better than a number of guys who are currently "leading" their teams. He'll get a shot at starting next year.

Unfortunately for him, no matter what team he goes to, he won't have the same quality personnel around him and it's going to make him look bad.

 

[omally]

I'm hoping he lands in either Detroit or Carolina where he'd have a top 5 WR to fling it to, though it doen't seem to matter (ala Randy Moss with his measely 3 grabs last night).

Is Delhomme retiring? Jake had a bad game last weekend against Oakland, but quarterbacks sometimes have horrible games. He'll bounce back. Here is an article on him talking about his terrible game last weekend on the Panthers website if anyone is interested link.

 

[moviedude25]

Best place for Cassel to go next season will be Minnesota. They have all of the pieces in place now minus a quality QB. Gus has looked good at times but he's not the answer next year. If the Vikings are stubborn they will try the Travious Jackson expirament again but he's not the answer either. It seems to me that the Vikings are the top job next year for the top FA quarterback.

The Patriots might franchise Cassel. The Patriots are a well run franchise and all its going to take is for them to get a sniff that another team wants Casel and they will slap that tag on him believing that who ever takes him will give them draft picks for him. The most interesting thing about this whole situation is Tom Brady's status. Will Tom Brady be back to form next year? His injury could be like that of Carson Palmer. With the infections there is no guarentee that he will be back next year or ever be able to play like he has again. New England just might need Cassel next year as the starter. No one can tell how that plays out but I do believe one thing is for sure. Matt Cassel will be paid and paid well next year.

 

[puckalicious]

Cassel will be an UFA after this season. I'd be shocked if the Pats used the franchise tag on a guy they expect to be a backup. They'd have to pay him the average of the top 5 QBs in the league to keep him.

The person who says "you just have to chuck the ball up to Moss" is showing how little he knows about football, IMO.

Cassel's not the next coming of God, but he's improving with every start he makes and has played better than a number of guys who are currently "leading" their teams. He'll get a shot at starting next year.

Unfortunately for him, no matter what team he goes to, he won't have the same quality personnel around him and it's going to make him look bad.

Best place for Cassel to go next season will be Minnesota. They have all of the pieces in place now minus a quality QB. Gus has looked good at times but he's not the answer next year. If the Vikings are stubborn they will try the Travious Jackson expirament again but he's not the answer either. It seems to me that the Vikings are the top job next year for the top FA quarterback.

The Patriots might franchise Cassel. The Patriots are a well run franchise and all its going to take is for them to get a sniff that another team wants Casel and they will slap that tag on him believing that who ever takes him will give them draft picks for him. The most interesting thing about this whole situation is Tom Brady's status. Will Tom Brady be back to form next year? His injury could be like that of Carson Palmer. With the infections there is no guarentee that he will be back next year or ever be able to play like he has again. New England just might need Cassel next year as the starter. No one can tell how that plays out but I do believe one thing is for sure. Matt Cassel will be paid and paid well next year.

Not by NE. See Branch, Law, etc.

 

[MAC_32]

He has completed 3 passes 20+ yds down the field the entire season and is 0 for his last 11...and based on the throws I have seen him make down the field I'm surprised he's completed as many as he has.

Good backup, bad starter...but he'll get a payday from a franchise that doesn't know what they are doing.

 

[-baller]

haha....those are bad examples.

they aren't the raiders.

question would mainly be about his role and how they felt about o'connell.

you can't pay a back up some huge deal --- guess you could franchise if you felt you had too, but that's a lot of dough.

edit:

if you're really interested in the money side of it, here's a good pats salary cap page.

http://www.patscap.com/

 

[bengalboy]

haha....those are bad examples.

they aren't the raiders.

question would mainly be about his role and how they felt about o'connell.

you can't pay a back up some huge deal --- guess you could franchise if you felt you had too, but that's a lot of dough.

edit:

if you're really interested in the money side of it, here's a good pats salary cap page.

http://www.patscap.com/

Like I said, there's no way NE can afford him. He wrote his ticket on Thursday night. A team offering him a starting gig now is inevitable and the Pats can't franchise him and give him top 5 money. There's simply no room.

 

[Buffaloes]

Cassel obviously wrote his ticket last night to one of six destinations. Which team will roll the dice on him as their starter next year?

Detroit

Minnesota

Carolina

SF

Miami

Tampa Bay

I'm hoping he lands in either Detroit or Carolina where he'd have a top 5 WR to fling it to, though it doen't seem to matter (ala Randy Moss with his measely 3 grabs last night).

Do you mean dump it off to? Cassell is not a very good QB. Just had a very good game last night.

I was thinking the same thing. He is not accurate on the deep routes and he had a lot of trouble hitting on the 10-15 yard outs on Thursday. The Patriots do a good job playing to its team and player strengths and masking their inabilities. If a team does end up signing him as a starter, I think they will come to regret that decision.

 

[-baller]

I think there would be room if it's something they really wanted to do, but that kind of thing really screws you in the fa market.

 

[bengalboy]

Cassel obviously wrote his ticket last night to one of six destinations. Which team will roll the dice on him as their starter next year?

Detroit

Minnesota

Carolina

SF

Miami

Tampa Bay

I'm hoping he lands in either Detroit or Carolina where he'd have a top 5 WR to fling it to, though it doen't seem to matter (ala Randy Moss with his measely 3 grabs last night).

Do you mean dump it off to? Cassell is not a very good QB. Just had a very good game last night.

I was thinking the same thing. He is not accurate on the deep routes and he had a lot of trouble hitting on the 10-15 yard outs on Thursday. The Patriots do a good job playing to its team and player strengths and masking their inabilities. If a team does end up signing him as a starter, I think they will come to regret that decision.

True. He did miss Watson on 3 or 4 out patterns, but you're going to miss some when you throw the ball 51 times. That 16 yard out pattern to Moss was Brady-like and he is looking more composed with each game. With all the terrible QB play out there, someone will hand him a big pay day.

 

[Buffaloes]

Cassel obviously wrote his ticket last night to one of six destinations. Which team will roll the dice on him as their starter next year?

Detroit

Minnesota

Carolina

SF

Miami

Tampa Bay

I'm hoping he lands in either Detroit or Carolina where he'd have a top 5 WR to fling it to, though it doen't seem to matter (ala Randy Moss with his measely 3 grabs last night).

Do you mean dump it off to? Cassell is not a very good QB. Just had a very good game last night.

I was thinking the same thing. He is not accurate on the deep routes and he had a lot of trouble hitting on the 10-15 yard outs on Thursday. The Patriots do a good job playing to its team and player strengths and masking their inabilities. If a team does end up signing him as a starter, I think they will come to regret that decision.

True. He did miss Watson on 3 or 4 out patterns, but you're going to miss some when you throw the ball 51 times. That 16 yard out pattern to Moss was Brady-like and he is looking more composed with each game. With all the terrible Qb play, someone will hand him a big pay day.

It wasn't just that he missed due to the sheer amount of passes he has thrown. He is consistently off on certain routes which leads me to believe he is an extremely limited quarterback. Maybe you are right and some desperate team will take a chance but I don't think it will last long for Cassell as a starter outside of NE. I wouldn't be surprised if NE let him go in the offseason simply because they think O'Connell is better.

 

[gianmarco]

He has completed 3 passes 20+ yds down the field the entire season and is 0 for his last 11...and based on the throws I have seen him make down the field I'm surprised he's completed as many as he has.Good backup, bad starter...but he'll get a payday from a franchise that doesn't know what they are doing.

The guy simply doesn't have an NFL caliber arm. He isn't able to complete the variety of throws necessary to be a successful starting QB for an extended period of time. Some guys like Garcia and Pennington have other things that make up for their lack of arm strength. Cassel doesn't even really have those with the exception of his ability to scramble. He was putting all he had on 10-15 yd outs and the ball was barely getting there. I'm honestly surprised a few more of those passes weren't picked off.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

NE backup for sure.

 

[[scooter]]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

Because he's put up better stats than A.J. Feeley, Matt Schaub, and several other backup QBs who were given a shot to start for another team.

 

[MAC_32]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

Because he's put up better stats than A.J. Feeley, Matt Schaub, and several other backup QBs who were given a shot to start for another team.

Relying on stats, alone, is not a good way to manage a team.

 

[[scooter]]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

Because he's put up better stats than A.J. Feeley, Matt Schaub, and several other backup QBs who were given a shot to start for another team.

Relying on stats, alone, is not a good way to manage a team.

The question wasn't "What's a good way to manage a team". It was, "Why would anyone sign him to be their starter".

 

[MAC_32]

Cassel is good at one thing, being a backup. Why would anyone sign him to be their starter?

Because he's put up better stats than A.J. Feeley, Matt Schaub, and several other backup QBs who were given a shot to start for another team.

Relying on stats, alone, is not a good way to manage a team.

The question wasn't "What's a good way to manage a team". It was, "Why would anyone sign him to be their starter".

If by anyone you mean the Detroit Lions then I agree.

 

[B Maverick]

so heres a guy who until brady went down, hadnt started a game since HS. He has been in the NE system as a backup for what 3 or 4 years? HE should look decent as their QB. For him to go somewhere else and learn a whole new offense? I dont see it.

Has he had moments where he looked good? sure. Has he also looked horrible? yes.

I dont think he goes somewhere next year to start.

 

[Jambi]

He'll get top 10 money next year...from someone.