TZMarkie
Footballguy
Who has even suggested this?
19 hours ago, bolldpt said:
Evans. Not liking the situation in TB. WR is deep this year . Lots of viable options
Page 1. LOL.
TZM
Who has even suggested this?
19 hours ago, bolldpt said:
Evans. Not liking the situation in TB. WR is deep this year . Lots of viable options
Wasn't that expected though?Not going to cut him but Eric Ebron might be in for a big recession this year.
I didn't feel great about him when I drafted him. I was trying to move him before Week 1 because I anticipated this TB offense wouldn't be what it was cooked up to be. Couldn't get a deal done and he puts up a stinker. Dealing with the flu, now on a short turnaround which isn't ideal for any non-RB. I sold him but wasn't great value by any means. Temper expectations for tonight and look forward to his week 3 vs NYG.The Mike Evans thing was a joke guys, simmer down
My head gets too hot.The Mike Evans thing was a joke guys, simmer down
He got targets, but Cam looks awful and I don't know how much better it will be for him. He's never been an overly accurate QB. Samuel was open a lot, but couldn't get the ball. I'm going to field trade offers for him after putting up 14 PPR points this week. Certainly not a drop candidate. They have ARI & HOU on the horizon.He played 92.5% of the snaps and plays TB this week. I would hold for another week at minimum. But I agree he is behind CMAC & DJ Moore. Olsen, that's iffy considering his injury history. Who knows how long he will be healthy.
Hmmm....I, too, and dropping Barber, trying to target Malcolm Brown and RoJo, potentially AP for the short term.
I wonder if that might be an overreaction with the team committed to starting Barber again. Not like the TB run game is dependable, but seems like swapping one worn out shoe for the other in the pair. RoJo might have looked better, but situation and offense may cap him at the exact same level as Barber.
None. His passing game is erratic at best. I’ve been waiting for signature cam runs and the few I’ve seen have been laughable. The guy looks awful out there. As a panthers myself I can’t believe this is the same guy.If he is not gonna run what good is he?
I'm holding but am fortunate to have Waller as my starter. That TB O just isn't made for Howard. He is a very good TE that would be a solid TE for fantasy football if starting for almost all the other NFL teams. It is alarming that stone-hands Perriman gets more looks.After zero targets this week, OJ Howard.
Tampa needs a WR3 in that offense now. Desperately. Evans is bracketed, Godwin starting to be. Perriman is always single-coverage now, one would surmise.It is alarming that stone-hands Perriman gets more looks.
I dropped him and picked up Hockinson. Non TE mandatory. Just hoping he’s a freak athlete mismatchNot going to cut him but Eric Ebron might be in for a big recession this year.
Ugh. This hurts. I definitely used draft capital on him in leegs before Stills got there, and you've just confirmed that which I don't want to admit.I dropped Will Fuller. 12 team super-flex, redraft, PPR spec play, waited until round 6 to draft my first WR.
I love his talent and obvious big play ability, which flashed again last Monday, but with the addition of Stills he's just never going to be a reliable play, despite the inevitable huge games, and I have other bye week fillers who are more "slow-and-steady wins the race" types. Austin Hooper in particular (TE/WR combined league).
At any rate I figured that was my churn spot and dropped Fuller for Ronald Jones so...winning?
Yeah, I love his talent and he isn't a necessary drop because scoring format really matters. In a PPR I think you have to consider dropping him because when he disappears it could be in a big way.Ugh. This hurts. I definitely used draft capital on him in leegs before Stills got there, and you've just confirmed that which I don't want to admit.
He's droppable.
I won't do it. I'm holding out/for a better deal for something real/you know I'd like to say/that I can spend the day/at home with it left off/how strong's your Will?
STAND STILL!
@BroadwayG
Did I just get nominated for most relevant GB lyric set to FF yet? Ever?
I'm coming to this conclusion for very similar reasons, but I can't bring myself to drop talent like that. By Week Five or Six, if he's still not getting looks, then it's going to have to happen. He's a guy who is ultra-talented with an injury history who looks like he's running clear-outs for DeAndre, at least as far as Week One goes. But last year healthy? His targets were 9, 11, 5, 3, 3, 8, 6. Not even seven a game. That's too few to have an impact in PPR.Yeah, I love his talent and he isn't a necessary drop because scoring format really matters. In a PPR I think you have to consider dropping him because when he disappears it could be in a big way.
He's Tyler Lockett but with a ton of competition for looks so you can't rely on those single long TDs salvaging a poor week.
Again I love everything I have seen on the field from him but he has very limited value in a redraft...barring an injury to DeAndre.
He's a guy who can win you a week single handedly but good luck figuring out which week that's going to be because it probably won't be more than one or two.I'm coming to this conclusion for very similar reasons, but I can't bring myself to drop talent like that. By Week Five or Six, if he's still not getting looks, then it's going to have to happen. He's a guy who is ultra-talented with an injury history who looks like he's running clear-outs for DeAndre, at least as far as Week One goes. But last year healthy? His targets were 9, 11, 5, 3, 3, 8, 6. Not even seven a game. That's too few to have an impact in PPR.
He's a better player than his fantasy output would suggest, IMHO. Talent usually rises, but coupled with his injury history, I don't see him being an integral part of a PPR squad.
Absolutely agree, unfortunately I play in a redraft PPR all-play league.WILL FULLER is the ideal "best ball" candidate. In fact, he should be the poster child for that type league.
TZM
Again, I specifically stated redraft, PPR league. In that type of league he will cost you more weeks than he will help you win.Will Fuller is good... and his QB is good, and good at throwing deep. Hopkins is going to draw a ton of attention or else destroy the opposing defense...
Dropping him is going to be a mistake. Stills is just insurance.
He might get hurt. I have to give you that.
I don't think he needs an injury. I think he will have a good year even with all of those guys around. I'm really high on Watson this year, I think he can pass for 4500 yards.Again, I specifically stated redraft, PPR league. In that type of league he will cost you more weeks than he will help you win.
I love his talent but the consistency is lacking. An injury to Hopkins, Stills, Coutee or Duke could help his opportunity share but if you're counting on an injury he is at the top of the injury risk list in Houston.
Barring injuries what do you see Fuller ending up with?I don't think he needs an injury. I think he will have a good year even with all of those guys around. I'm really high on Watson this year, I think he can pass for 4500 yards.
He probably won't get to 1000 yards, but I wouldn't say it's impossible with a healthy Fuller and Watson.Barring injuries what do you see Fuller ending up with?
I say, maybe 800 & 8 max.
ETA: That's the absolute best case IMO.... barring injury.
I like the first 2 moves a lot. I'd temper Kyler Murray expectations this week, then watch him slowly get better as the year goes on.10 team .5PPR redraft, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/2 flex/TE/K/D, 7 bench spots
Dropped Jameis Winston for Kyler Murray (who was also dropped). It will be kind of fun to compare the two, as they face the same opponent in successive weeks (CAR).
Dropped Damien Harris for Alexander Mattison (who was also dropped). Easy decision when Mattison has only 1 roadblock to success.
Chose to keep Darwin Thompson over Damien Harris, but he is next on my chopping block. Many decent options on the FA market; I just haven't decided who I want yet.
As for Murray, I also have Dak, so I will have him for the next two weeks (WAS & MIA), then weeks 4 & 5 Murray gets SEA & CIN. If Murray can't prove himself by week 6, I am confident Winston will be available to pick back up, unless he goes bonkers.I like the first 2 moves a lot. I'd temper Kyler Murray expectations this week, then watch him slowly get better as the year goes on.
And if you ever followed the "RB Lotto Ticket " thread that I've been a part of, you will know I love holding these type backs. (ALEXANDER MATTISON)
Its such a great feeling when everyone rushes to the wire to nab these guys in the event of an injury or something else in front of them........and you already have them rostered.
I mention my early thoughts on Mattison here....... ~~~~> https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/779034-2019-rb-lotto-ticket-rankings/?do=findComment&comment=22105276
The fact the Vikes seem to be leaning very heavily on the run thus far at least, makes Mattison an even better bench hold in my opinion.
TZM
While I agree Mattison is a great pickup, Harris >>> Thompson for me and it's no question.TheWinz said:10 team .5PPR redraft, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/2 flex/TE/K/D, 7 bench spots
Dropped Jameis Winston for Kyler Murray (who was also dropped). It will be kind of fun to compare the two, as they face the same opponent in successive weeks (CAR).
Dropped Damien Harris for Alexander Mattison (who was also dropped). Easy decision when Mattison has only 1 roadblock to success.
Chose to keep Darwin Thompson over Damien Harris, but he is next on my chopping block. Many decent options on the FA market; I just haven't decided who I want yet.
I think you made the right call, at least kyler has some upside. We already know what Jameis is.TheWinz said:10 team .5PPR redraft, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/2 flex/TE/K/D, 7 bench spots
Dropped Jameis Winston for Kyler Murray (who was also dropped). It will be kind of fun to compare the two, as they face the same opponent in successive weeks (CAR).
He’s a poor man’s Derrick Henry IMHOKalen Ballage. It's going to be a long season in Miami. Ronald Jones or Carlos Hyde would be a step up.
I did drop Curtis Samuel to pick up Darren Waller. We have a short bench so it's not something I wanted to do. I already have Kittle and TE is not a flex option. My thought was to package him up for the Hunter Henry owner, or possibly use him in week 4 to cover Kittle's BYE (Waller plays the Colts that week). Jared Cook had a career year in the same spot last year, and Waller looks legit, so I don't want to leave him on the WW. And now the OJ Howard owner is another possible trade target. Hopefully with Cam looking bad, Samuel will linger for a while and I can grab him later.Curtis Samuel. And possibly Justin Jackson.
Any Miami player is droppable but to play Devil's advocate...Drake is literally, and unquestionably, their best offensive player.Little surprised no mention of K Drake; maybe he was already thought of less than Ballage and there wasn’t a viable fantasy MIA player outside of the Unicorn
I know this is redraft centric, but in my keeper league I think I’m gonna go after him on the cheap as a bye week filler (especially after Guice went to IR)
In FF, playable RBs can be sparse, especially as the season wears on.Any Miami player is droppable but to play Devil's advocate...Drake is literally, and unquestionably, their best offensive player.
He is their only RB playmaker and their best receiver out of the backfield and their two, and four, minute drill back. They are going to be playing from behind most likely every single week.
Miami may be the worst single season team in NFL history but there are still yards and TDs to be had and almost zero competition for them.
But, yeah, while I can't see dropping him I will absolutely shop him for a bag of peanuts as soon as he scored a TD.
Neither do I but Ballage has to show a lot more before I think he's a better option than what Drake has shown over 3 seasons. And, while the team clearly likes to lie about their intentions Flores has been strongly promoting Drake as his lead back.In FF, playable RBs can be sparse, especially as the season wears on.
I do subscribe to the theory that the starting back on the worst NFL team still can hold value in terms of the volume that goes their way -- at least there can be a reliable floor that's more predictable than a boom/bus flex WR.
That said, hard to make the case that Drake is this kind of back, or worth the hold even if just seeing if Week 2 is the same as Week 1.
Miami should be throwing from behind a lot which mitigates their RBs' upside overall, and Ballage actually had more carries. Drake may had more yards but they really came from one play. Ballage was also more efficient in the pass game, though he only had 1 target and Drake had 2.
Things may develop differently, but don't blame anyone for shedding Drake now for higher upside/floor players elsewhere.