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WR CeeDee Lamb, DAL (1 Viewer)
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eighsse2
Footballguy
'member this, from early last year?
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Considering ages, and that all WRs out there would have to play for Dak; Who would you rather have as WR on the Dallas Cowboys? I don’t see anyone. Don’t care for AJ Browns me first attitude, Jefferson can’t seem to get healthy, so who would you rather have?
And I’m not disagreeing with @Bankerguy, as I’m sure you are talking others are better in general on a neutral team. I’m just wondering who would anyone rather have on Dallas, as that’s my only team. Just looking for discussions is all.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Hhmmm. He's injured right now, but it's the only real injury he's ever had. Seems a bit disingenuous wording it like he's been missing games with any regularity.
Tyreek Hill and Chase are clearly elite level receivers as well. Hill the best in the league for me I think.
Splitting hairs really though aren't we. Lamb is absolutely top drawer.
Absolutely I agree that Tyreek is the best right now, but he’s also been in the league 4 years longer, so like I said RIGHT NOW for me, I like Lamb better on the Cowboys based on youth and going forward. And again, if Dak is staying at QB, I can’t see Hill or Chase having as strong of a connection on or off the field as him and CeeDee.
Justin Jefferson has missed 5 weeks with a hamstring, and possibly this week too. Hammy’s are a nightmare, so if you think that’s no big deal, and I do- then that’s what discussions are for. Personally I shy away from them.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Jefferson will get healthy, come back and be the same dominant player he always has been but yes, the QB situation is potentially more troublesome there.
Ja'Marr Chase and Joe Burrow clearly have an elite connection though.
Ja'Marr Chase and Joe Burrow clearly have an elite connection though.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
He is up there but it has to be Tyreek right now. He's operating at another level.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As one of the Niner homers on this board, he's easily top 3. Physicality, hands, speed, field awareness - can play inside & out, and he's surprisingly elusive for a dude his size. dude has moves. He's also been extremely reliable, and has had a really solid floor. Even when Dak was out, Lamb was balling out.
I don't think he's #1 - it's still Tyreek for now. But a case could be made for #2. Chase is inconsistent, Kupp seems to have fallen off of a cliff due to age/injuries. AJB is also in the conversation.
But it's not ridiculous for someone to make the argument that Lamb is WR1, even is that someone is CeeDee lamb.
I wish he had a brother named EeeEffGee, but that's a story for a different day.
ETA - A sister named ElEmEno perhaps?
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Faust
MVP
Next Gen Stats
CeeDee Lamb finished with multiple receptions on five different routes, his 2nd game doing so this season (rest of NFL: 3 games).
Lamb by Nearest Defender (Week 13 vs SEA)
Tariq Woolen: 7 rec, 45 yards, TD
#SEAvsDAL | #DallasCowboys
TakiToki
Footballguy
Several absolutely fantastic WRs in this game. I think a reasonable argument could be made that Lamb is the best. I'd probably pick him to be the best WR in the league in 4 years. Maybe Aiyuk, with his Davante Adams keep-getting-better-and-better-and-better vibe. But I'd take him over Chase and Jefferson in the long run.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He’s a joy to roster.I'm not saying he's the best in the league, but I do love rostering him in 1 of my dynasty leagues.
Traded a 2024 1st & 2nd for him in a start-up 16 team dynasty PPR IDP - no ragrets. Worth every penny.
Drafted him 1.07 in a PPR
redraft. No ragrets there either.
Next week should be explosive.
rockaction
Footballguy
Back to the previous conversation, nobody even sniffs Jefferson right now. He just got hurt this year. And as A.J. Brown pointed out, he and Lamb play almost totally different positions. Lamb plays out of the slot a lot and gets free releases more often than not.
A.J. Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, and Tyreek Hill are on another level from Lamb, fantasy scoring aside.
A.J. Brown, Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, and Tyreek Hill are on another level from Lamb, fantasy scoring aside.
rockaction
Footballguy
That's one man's opinion, by the way. I'm not trying to come into Lamb's thread and denigrate Lamb. He's an excellent receiver. There are just others who are better.
I disagree. If I was starting a team today I would consider Hill (he’s a freak) only over Lamb. Browns crybaby attitude can go suck it, Jefferson is great but can’t get well, and I see this hammy issue lingering. Don’t really see how you can call any of them better than what CeeDee is doing, but this is also one mans opinion.
The Finist
Footballguy
1 TD heading into week 14. Hope the redrafters didn't get him too high. This was an easy one to see.
Walker will step right back into primary role when healthy.
Charb rubs hard but the fantasy points just won't be there when both backs are healthy. This was really easy to see coming this year.
Walker will step right back into primary role when healthy.
Charb rubs hard but the fantasy points just won't be there when both backs are healthy. This was really easy to see coming this year.
rockaction
Footballguy
You're so overwhelmed by Charbs's greatness that you posted in the wrong thread. The Finist of them all, for sure.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I traded Lamb a month ago for Olave and Kittle. I shake my head every monster game he has. I miss u Lamb.
There are children here.
My son traded Chase (after his slow start in week 2) for Lamb and Henry (then flipped Henry straight up for Ettienne). My son is 14. I called him nuts but he may just be a genius.
rockaction
Footballguy
Your son ain't got time for all the noise about "patience" that we're saddled with. Watching Chase in Week Two was painful, and I can totally see that trade. Your son saw a completely beat Burrow, saw they were out of sync, and made the deal. It would prove prescient. Then, knowing the talent ETN showed this year, that's a no-brainer back for Henry when he likely moved him. Now, maybe not so much. But back then, savvy.
Your son took his leaguemates to the cleaners with those deals.
So because of a pulled hammy this year you would not consider him for starting a team today? It's his only injury in his career and isn't really any more worrisome for future than other things. This is recency bias. It's not like Jefferson has a history of muscle issues.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Right, and McCaffrey is made of glass too. You'll never see him get more than 15 touches in a game now that we've seen how brittle he is.
Ok, but now he’s hurt again.
IMO I’ll take CeeDee as a sure thing if I’m starting a team today. JJ may be better, but he’s not well. Again.
Faust
MVP
Next Gen Stats
Dak Prescott & CeeDee Lamb (49-yd TD)
Lamb: 2nd-most YAC on a play of his career
#DALvsMIA | #DallasCowboys
Oh yes he is!!!! Now I just need Mcaffrey to finish it!
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
He’s a top 5 pick in PPR redrafts next year. Will probably go 1 or 2 in some leagues.
joey
Footballguy
how about a dynasty owner who rosters Lamb but didn’t even make the playoffs because the rest of his team fell apart around him (JTaylor, Dobbins, Akers,, Stroud, Javonte, Kirk…). All those amazing 40+ point games this year for nothing. :(
of course, I’m ecstatic that I roster him in that league but…oof.
of course, I’m ecstatic that I roster him in that league but…oof.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In my 16 team startup draft before last season, I dealt my 2025 1st & 2nd, and pick 2.16 for pick 1.15 (Lamb). I was told I “way overpaid” by a friend in the league. A few guys in the draft busted on me on the league chat for overpaying.
Those picks ended up being 1.13 & 2.13.
I would make that trade again 1000/1000 times. With the QB situation in MIN, Lamb is my dynasty WR1, and it’s not particularly close.
Which leaves me a little conflicted as a 49ers fan, but that’s how it goes sometimes.
In my 16 team startup draft before last season, I dealt my 2025 1st & 2nd, and pick 2.16 for pick 1.15 (Lamb). I was told I “way overpaid” by a friend in the league. A few guys in the draft busted on me on the league chat for overpaying.
Those picks ended up being 1.13 & 2.13.
I would make that trade again 1000/1000 times. With the QB situation in MIN, Lamb is my dynasty WR1, and it’s not particularly close.
Which leaves me a little conflicted as a 49ers fan, but that’s how it goes sometimes.
you overpaid a little. I say this because the player you choose at 1.15 could've been anyone, so you can only evaluate based on the information at the time.
For example, someone really wanted Lamb in one my leagues and traded up with me. I got a pick a little later and a future 2nd. With that later pick I selected Justin Jefferson. ... so you can't really look back and say your trade was "even", because if you had selected a bust, you wouldn't say that, yeah?
It's all good to fall in love with a player, but you're still rolling the dice and it's okay that you over-paid.
But looking at it today (which is what he was doing) with more information it turns out he didn't overpay. At the time sure. But upon re-evaluation it wasn't. The process he used to make the trade (really high on a guy and made sure to get him) still has merit and the fact that the picks ended up not being particularly great (end of round picks) shows a trust in his process and evaluation skills.
While not every player will hit, having confidence in your process that was shown to succeed has merit.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
The better thing to say is he overpaid then to get his guy. If you trust your player values go for it regardless of market value.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Exactly this. I’m extremely pleased that it worked out - but at the time I was also extremely pleased because I trusted that I would draft well enough to compete (resulting in late picks) and that Lamb was my WR2 overall in the startup draft, so nabbing him 15th overall felt like a value.
Sure, he could have busted, but he most certainly did not, which validates my point. That I would make the deal 100% of the time.
Now, maybe my leaguemates were right that it was an overpay - some folks prefer to not move up in a start-up & to let the players come to them. Looking at the draft, had I not made that trade, I would have picked Tee Higgins at 2.16 as my WR1.
And what a delight that would have been.
At 1.13 this year I would have taken Coleman or Trey Benson. At 2.13 I likely would have selected Jermaine Burton (who I picked at 3.02 anyway after trading into that spot).
So even with player names put to the picks, I feel like I killed it with that start-up deal. IMO, 1st round startup picks vastly exceed the value of future 1st round rookie picks. In essence, I dealt Coleman+Higgins+Burton for Lamb, then got Burton anyway.
Feels good. Feels real good.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
While I agree, “overpaid” is in the eye of the beholder.
Are startup picks more valuable than future rookie picks?
That’s a matter of opinion I guess, so yeah - to me the price was downright reasonable.
This is an easy statement to get behind. Start up drafts you are taking proven players that have shown what they can do at the NFL level. Future Rookie picks are complete dart throws even if you knew where the pick would be. But since you don't even know that at the time they are even more of a crapshoot.
in order for that to be valid, you have to compile all trades to determine that one has a special ability in identifying unique FF talent.
for every Lamb someone trades up to get, someone also trades up to get a Jalen Raegor or Jerry Jeudy.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
And the Jeudy fans will tell you he is breaking out this year!
