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WR CeeDee Lamb, DAL (1 Viewer)

This whole situation gives me the heebie jeebies. He’s probably the best midseason lottery ticket you could trade for, but high ankle sprains can linger for a while and the cowboys schedule is pretty tough. I hope he comes back in full force, even though I don’t have any shares- the league is better when CeeDee plays.
 
This whole situation gives me the heebie jeebies. He’s probably the best midseason lottery ticket you could trade for, but high ankle sprains can linger for a while and the cowboys schedule is pretty tough. I hope he comes back in full force, even though I don’t have any shares- the league is better when CeeDee plays.
I am in talks to acquire Lamb in one league but obviously have major concerns as you noted.
 
Blaming the coach for the injury is pointless. It could have happened on any play where he was being tackled.

In fact, CeeDee has been highly efficient on them kind of plays in the past but nobody was screaming then. It's a moot point, imo.
It can still be a risky play even if it’s worked in the past. It’s not like Ceedee is built like a Deebo or Puka either. Personally, just don’t think the reward is worth the risk of a play call like that. It’s the Cowboy’s though so it doesn’t really surprise me.
 
I'm also 3-0 in a 14 team PPR league. Considering offering Addison & Jeudy for CeeDee.

Currently have Nacua WR#1, Meyer WR#2 then will be able to pickup a WR on waivers for open slot. Currently using WalkerIII as my flex play. Will have Rice in week 7 & Aiyuk later though that doesn't sound great from today's report on his progress. Aiyuk was a rd12 pick.

Should CeeDee return to 75+% of his self last 1/3 of the season would you make this trade? I know it's high risk high return but isn't that how you win your league?
 
I'm also 3-0 in a 14 team PPR league. Considering offering Addison & Jeudy for CeeDee.
You shouldn’t consider that, because the CeeDee owner won’t.
That is what I was thinking but injuries are starting to derail her team and these 2 are the best I'm willing to offer. At least they would give her a chance this week and give her healthy bodies that are desperately needed.

So I guess you would offer and see?
 
Anyone buying in redraft? I’m 3-0 in PPR. I have Pickens. I’m considering a package of Davante Adams and Kyle Pitts to acquire Lamb.

8 teams make playoffs. I’d just need Cowboys to be relevant.

If I'm 3-0 and not missing out on a big prize for winning the division or points scoring, give me Lamb. It seems to be on the lesser half of severe HAS, unless that has changed. If it drags out, having Pickens isn't a bad consolation.

Not sure that Pitts is something that would be needed to sweeten the deal, or how much you'd even miss him.
 
I wouldn't worry about Lamb playing or the Cowboys being relevant. Lamb played injured last year until week 17 and Dak was out the Cowboys were awful.

I would worry about the high ankle sprain. I remember Barkley coming back after one a few years ago and he never looked or performed the same the rest of the year.
 
I'm also 3-0 in a 14 team PPR league. Considering offering Addison & Jeudy for CeeDee.
You shouldn’t consider that, because the CeeDee owner won’t.
That is what I was thinking but injuries are starting to derail her team and these 2 are the best I'm willing to offer. At least they would give her a chance this week and give her healthy bodies that are desperately needed.

So I guess you would offer and see?

If you actually think it has a chance, go ahead. Most Lamb owners offered that will have an easy decline, won't waste their time with a counter-offer, and if they're not already friends with you, might even think a little less of you for thinking you had a shot. Personally, I'd try to think of a pair that might have a better chance of being accepted. If she's in such dire straights, maybe there's even a third piece that might be tempting (but 3-for-1s are usually inherently awful, unless the one trading the stud has completely checked out of basic roster maintenance).

Some owners are casual and play to win this Sunday. I've seen a dynasty team unload J Chase for Montgomery and a WR I wish I could remember, because Chase had the gall to get injured four weeks and the guy thought he was a contender.
 
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I'm also 3-0 in a 14 team PPR league. Considering offering Addison & Jeudy for CeeDee.
You shouldn’t consider that, because the CeeDee owner won’t.
That is what I was thinking but injuries are starting to derail her team and these 2 are the best I'm willing to offer. At least they would give her a chance this week and give her healthy bodies that are desperately needed.

So I guess you would offer and see?

If you actually think it has a chance, go ahead. Most Lamb owners offered that will have an easy decline, won't waste their time with a counter-offer, and if they're not already friends with you, might even think a little less of you for thinking you had a shot. Personally, I'd try to think of a pair that might have a better chance of being accepted. If she's in such dire straights, maybe there's even a third piece that might be tempting (but 3-for-1s are usually inherently awful, unless the one trading the stud has completely checked out of basic roster maintenance).

Some owners are casual and play to win this Sunday. I've seen a dynasty team unload J Chase for Montgomery and a WR I wish I could remember, because Chase had the gall to get injured four weeks and the guy thought he was a contender.
Agree with this. That is insulting. Not a starting offer that I would even counter.
 
I'm also 3-0 in a 14 team PPR league. Considering offering Addison & Jeudy for CeeDee.

Currently have Nacua WR#1, Meyer WR#2 then will be able to pickup a WR on waivers for open slot. Currently using WalkerIII as my flex play. Will have Rice in week 7 & Aiyuk later though that doesn't sound great from today's report on his progress. Aiyuk was a rd12 pick.

Should CeeDee return to 75+% of his self last 1/3 of the season would you make this trade? I know it's high risk high return but isn't that how you win your league?
Lmao no cd owner is taking that
 
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I'm also 3-0 in a 14 team PPR league. Considering offering Addison & Jeudy for CeeDee.
You shouldn’t consider that, because the CeeDee owner won’t.
That is what I was thinking but injuries are starting to derail her team and these 2 are the best I'm willing to offer. At least they would give her a chance this week and give her healthy bodies that are desperately needed.

So I guess you would offer and see?

If you actually think it has a chance, go ahead. Most Lamb owners offered that will have an easy decline, won't waste their time with a counter-offer, and if they're not already friends with you, might even think a little less of you for thinking you had a shot. Personally, I'd try to think of a pair that might have a better chance of being accepted. If she's in such dire straights, maybe there's even a third piece that might be tempting (but 3-for-1s are usually inherently awful, unless the one trading the stud has completely checked out of basic roster maintenance).

Some owners are casual and play to win this Sunday. I've seen a dynasty team unload J Chase for Montgomery and a WR I wish I could remember, because Chase had the gall to get injured four weeks and the guy thought he was a contender.
Agree with this. That is insulting. Not a starting offer that I would even counter.
Yea, I agree! Was just trying to get some feedback from you all. I use Roto Trade for many trades I've made and entertained. Watched a video where it took 3 decent players to get this trade to work. I don't want to gut my team now but will need to work something in a few weeks prior to my mega BYE week to plug in for 5 starters.
 
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I'm also 3-0 in a 14 team PPR league. Considering offering Addison & Jeudy for CeeDee.
You shouldn’t consider that, because the CeeDee owner won’t.
That is what I was thinking but injuries are starting to derail her team and these 2 are the best I'm willing to offer. At least they would give her a chance this week and give her healthy bodies that are desperately needed.

So I guess you would offer and see?

If you actually think it has a chance, go ahead. Most Lamb owners offered that will have an easy decline, won't waste their time with a counter-offer, and if they're not already friends with you, might even think a little less of you for thinking you had a shot. Personally, I'd try to think of a pair that might have a better chance of being accepted. If she's in such dire straights, maybe there's even a third piece that might be tempting (but 3-for-1s are usually inherently awful, unless the one trading the stud has completely checked out of basic roster maintenance).

Some owners are casual and play to win this Sunday. I've seen a dynasty team unload J Chase for Montgomery and a WR I wish I could remember, because Chase had the gall to get injured four weeks and the guy thought he was a contender.
Agree with this. That is insulting. Not a starting offer that I would even counter.
Yea, I agree! Was just trying to get some feedback from you all. I use Roto Trade for many trades I've made and entertained. Watched a video where it took 3 decent players to get this trade to work. I don't want to gut my team now but will need to work something in a few weeks prior to my mega BYE week to plug in for 5 starters.
I wouldn’t trade for 8 players of the caliber you were including. For a lamb player you need a stud or right below with a high ceiling.
 
I am trying to trade for him in dynasty. I have a contender and want to win this year (and obviously Lamb has a nice 3-5 years of peak play left after 2025). The team who has him is bad and should think about rebuilding at 0-4. He's got Saquon, Breece, Kamara which is good but he doesn't have any WRs other than Lamb who are worth a damn.

I am starting my offer with my 1st, 3rd and Matthew Golden. Is that an insulting offer or a reasonable place to talk?
 
I am trying to trade for him in dynasty. I have a contender and want to win this year (and obviously Lamb has a nice 3-5 years of peak play left after 2025). The team who has him is bad and should think about rebuilding at 0-4. He's got Saquon, Breece, Kamara which is good but he doesn't have any WRs other than Lamb who are worth a damn.

I am starting my offer with my 1st, 3rd and Matthew Golden. Is that an insulting offer or a reasonable place to talk?
I personally want someone better than Golden, but some people like him fine.
 
I am trying to trade for him in dynasty. I have a contender and want to win this year (and obviously Lamb has a nice 3-5 years of peak play left after 2025). The team who has him is bad and should think about rebuilding at 0-4. He's got Saquon, Breece, Kamara which is good but he doesn't have any WRs other than Lamb who are worth a damn.

I am starting my offer with my 1st, 3rd and Matthew Golden. Is that an insulting offer or a reasonable place to talk?

It is really low and it would depend on how well you know the other owner because it could shut down talks. If it was me, I would counter and let you know we are pretty far apart. I would need two more pieces that are more valuable than Golden or one really valuable piece.

If you added a Marvin Harrison, Ladd McConkey or Tet McMillan type then I would need that and something else small.
 
I am trying to trade for him in dynasty. I have a contender and want to win this year (and obviously Lamb has a nice 3-5 years of peak play left after 2025). The team who has him is bad and should think about rebuilding at 0-4. He's got Saquon, Breece, Kamara which is good but he doesn't have any WRs other than Lamb who are worth a damn.

I am starting my offer with my 1st, 3rd and Matthew Golden. Is that an insulting offer or a reasonable place to talk?

It is really low and it would depend on how well you know the other owner because it could shut down talks. If it was me, I would counter and let you know we are pretty far apart. I would need two more pieces that are more valuable than Golden or one really valuable piece.

If you added a Marvin Harrison, Ladd McConkey or Tet McMillan type then I would need that and something else small.
Keep Trade Cut had it relatively even but that didn't sound right to me.
 
I am trying to trade for him in dynasty. I have a contender and want to win this year (and obviously Lamb has a nice 3-5 years of peak play left after 2025). The team who has him is bad and should think about rebuilding at 0-4. He's got Saquon, Breece, Kamara which is good but he doesn't have any WRs other than Lamb who are worth a damn.

I am starting my offer with my 1st, 3rd and Matthew Golden. Is that an insulting offer or a reasonable place to talk?

It is really low and it would depend on how well you know the other owner because it could shut down talks. If it was me, I would counter and let you know we are pretty far apart. I would need two more pieces that are more valuable than Golden or one really valuable piece.

If you added a Marvin Harrison, Ladd McConkey or Tet McMillan type then I would need that and something else small.
Keep Trade Cut had it relatively even but that didn't sound right to me.
Keep Trade Cut (my opinion) makes an attempt to add value because of getting the biggest pieces and because of freeing up roster spots, but it doesn't come particularly close to doing so enough. So if I'm putting a trade in there that involves one piece that is a lot bigger than the ones on the other side, if it's a deal that I think is around fair, it's usually going to be saying the team getting the big piece is losing significantly.
 
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.@_CeeDeeThree knew well before the snap that Pickens was gonna make the play 🔥

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Jesse Morse, M.D.
CeeDee Lamb will (likely) be back in the next 2 weeks.

Players with moderate (grade 2) high-ankle sprains don’t ‘bounce’ like this a week after suffering the injury.
I've thought the division game against Washington in week 7 was probably the most likely scenario, but week 6 against Carolina wouldn't be surprising. I thought the same thing, that Lamb was sure moving around on the sideline well.
 
I am starting my offer with my 1st, 3rd and Matthew Golden. Is that an insulting offer or a reasonable place to talk?
Someone just offered me Tyreek Hill, a 1st and a 3rd for Rashee, which I rejected without comment or counter.

If I were offered that package for lamb I’d similarly reject it. Golden is a decent prospect, but it’s clear he’s a distant 3rd in targets, and probably 4th when Reed returns. Not a chance I give up Lamb for that package.
 
Keep Trade Cut had it relatively even but that didn't sound right to me.
KTC Is largely trash, IMO.

They also adjust value, and add value for roster spots. I also think they vastly over-value draft picks. KTC also likes to see 4 quarters for a dollar. Fair =/= just the math.

Suggest looking at dynasty trade value charts to see if the math still maths.

Regardless, I see that offer as a lowball on a perennial top 3 dynasty WR.
 
sold my lamb to bring in nabers in one heavy comp league. (keeper)

i just like one more, and this season is over for me w an injury sheet that took a steaming dookie on my face
 
sold my lamb to bring in nabers in one heavy comp league. (keeper)

i just like one more, and this season is over for me w an injury sheet that took a steaming dookie on my face
I feel ya. So far I've lost Mixon, CeeDee, Nabors, Kittle, Worthy, and now Tillman and Pearsall. And don't even get me started on my IDPs. I can't shake this IR curse I'm on. In one deep league we have 10 IR spots and every year I damn near double that amount of IR players. It's truly a curse. I kick myself for continuing to play FF.
 
Keep Trade Cut had it relatively even but that didn't sound right to me.
KTC Is largely trash, IMO.

They also adjust value, and add value for roster spots. I also think they vastly over-value draft picks. KTC also likes to see 4 quarters for a dollar. Fair =/= just the math.

Suggest looking at dynasty trade value charts to see if the math still maths.

Regardless, I see that offer as a lowball on a perennial top 3 dynasty WR.
I much prefer KTC over trade value charts. I just have to take it with a grain of salt (but to me you need a whole pile of salt with a trade value chart). I like that it's crowd-sourced because that should give pretty good accuracy, and also that means it updates way faster than a monthly chart. I think there are things they could do to hone in the adjustments. Like start throwing some 2-for-1 deals out there to see how people actually judge them, rather than just guessing the adjustment number.
 
Keep Trade Cut had it relatively even but that didn't sound right to me.
KTC Is largely trash, IMO.

They also adjust value, and add value for roster spots. I also think they vastly over-value draft picks. KTC also likes to see 4 quarters for a dollar. Fair =/= just the math.

Suggest looking at dynasty trade value charts to see if the math still maths.

Regardless, I see that offer as a lowball on a perennial top 3 dynasty WR.
I much prefer KTC over trade value charts. I just have to take it with a grain of salt (but to me you need a whole pile of salt with a trade value chart). I like that it's crowd-sourced because that should give pretty good accuracy, and also that means it updates way faster than a monthly chart. I think there are things they could do to hone in the adjustments. Like start throwing some 2-for-1 deals out there to see how people actually judge them, rather than just guessing the adjustment number.
Also, one difficult part is scoring variations. You could pick a few basic variations, have people set their league scoring, and then have all the results sequestered into the different scoring variations. But then the sample size is going to suffer. But what would be cool is, if you even had everyone specify lineups, roster size, everything, so that the data is sequestered into way-too-small samples, but if you could find a way to formulaically use data from similar scoring systems to add estimated data each other (e.g., take the data from 3WR leagues but skew it in some way to add data to 2WR leagues, and vice versa).

Probably getting too complicated, but you know someone out there could do it, and it could be pretty powerful if it worked out right.
 
I like that it's crowd-sourced because that should give pretty good accuracy
That’s not a valid conclusion, IMO.

Half the time I’ve used KTC I’ve just clicked whatever for lol’s. I’m sure I’m not the only one. I’m not saying value charts are the end all be all. And there are other, better calcs but they’re not the end all be all either.

Mostly this one comes down to common sense for me though - Lamb is a Bona fide 1, Golden is not remotely that. And a 1st and a 3rd don’t come close to bridging that sizable gap.

That’s the main issue with calcs and charts. They’re a supplemental tool, they are not the main tool. The main tool should always be whether a deal passes the eye test regardless of what charts or calcs put the value at.

As I mentioned, KTC over-inflates pick value. Let’s say another calc has the value of that future 1st at half of KTC. Still a fair value? Nope.

Regardless, use common sense here: unless you believe that future 1 or Golden will eventually replace CeeDee Lamb, or provide as much FF value, then it’s not a good deal. IMO using that criteria it’s a terrible deal, and calcs are way off if they’re saying otherwise.
 
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Thinking of making a big re-draft trade for CD
I have a good roster but a bad record-- If I can buy CD fairly low-- I could have a great roster when he returns (hopefully joined by Rashee)
I thought Dallas played inspired football sunday night and has a favorable schedule coming up to stay in contention-- my biggest fear when CD went down was the wheels falling completely off while he was out

For reference: I give Baker + Jauan Jennings, Jakobi Meyers, Darius Slayton 4 CD
12 team league w/ deep starting lineups & benches- 2 of those 3 wrs currently start for me & all 3 would start for him.
Waiver wire is barren so I would be starting guys like Christian Kirk for a few weeks until he gets back
 
Keep Trade Cut had it relatively even but that didn't sound right to me.
KTC Is largely trash, IMO.

They also adjust value, and add value for roster spots. I also think they vastly over-value draft picks. KTC also likes to see 4 quarters for a dollar. Fair =/= just the math.

Suggest looking at dynasty trade value charts to see if the math still maths.

Regardless, I see that offer as a lowball on a perennial top 3 dynasty WR.
Yeah, the value they give to roster spots is outright ridiculous.
 
Keep Trade Cut had it relatively even but that didn't sound right to me.
KTC Is largely trash, IMO.

They also adjust value, and add value for roster spots. I also think they vastly over-value draft picks. KTC also likes to see 4 quarters for a dollar. Fair =/= just the math.

Suggest looking at dynasty trade value charts to see if the math still maths.

Regardless, I see that offer as a lowball on a perennial top 3 dynasty WR.
Yeah, the value they give to roster spots is outright ridiculous.
The value bonus I think is kind of both the "stud bonus" when you have an elite player versus a bunch of average joes (2000+2000+2000+2000+2000 should be far less than 9999, for instance), and also the roster spots bonus for the players that can be picked up by the team giving up more pieces. So I often try to take the roster spot part of that out of the equation, by adding in replacement level players until the number of players on each side is equal.
 
During his weekly radio appearance with 105.3 The Fan, Dallas Cowboys COO and co-owner Stephen Jones listed wide receiver CeeDee Lamb (ankle) among a group of players who could return within the next two weeks. The All-Pro receiver suffered a high ankle sprain in the team's Week 3 loss to the Bears, and he has since missed high-scoring games against the Packers and Jets. The fact that he was not put on IR was a promising sign that he should be able to return before the Cowboys' Week 10 bye, and the narrative out of Dallas would indicate that the team might be eyeing a Week 7 divisional clash with the Commanders to put him back on the field. Whenever he makes his return, he should be plugged right back into fantasy lineups without hesitation.--Patrick McGrath
 
During his weekly radio appearance with 105.3 The Fan, Dallas Cowboys COO and co-owner Stephen Jones listed wide receiver CeeDee Lamb (ankle) among a group of players who could return within the next two weeks. The All-Pro receiver suffered a high ankle sprain in the team's Week 3 loss to the Bears, and he has since missed high-scoring games against the Packers and Jets. The fact that he was not put on IR was a promising sign that he should be able to return before the Cowboys' Week 10 bye, and the narrative out of Dallas would indicate that the team might be eyeing a Week 7 divisional clash with the Commanders to put him back on the field. Whenever he makes his return, he should be plugged right back into fantasy lineups without hesitation.--Patrick McGrath
I sincerely hope they took that CeeDee run play out of the playbook, dug a hole, dropped it in there, soaked it with gasoline & rubbing alcohol, lit it on fire, peed on it, then covered it in radioactive waste, buried the smoldering remains under freshly poured concrete, and marked the site as a hazard not to be disturbed for 5 generations.
 
During his weekly radio appearance with 105.3 The Fan, Dallas Cowboys COO and co-owner Stephen Jones listed wide receiver CeeDee Lamb (ankle) among a group of players who could return within the next two weeks. The All-Pro receiver suffered a high ankle sprain in the team's Week 3 loss to the Bears, and he has since missed high-scoring games against the Packers and Jets. The fact that he was not put on IR was a promising sign that he should be able to return before the Cowboys' Week 10 bye, and the narrative out of Dallas would indicate that the team might be eyeing a Week 7 divisional clash with the Commanders to put him back on the field. Whenever he makes his return, he should be plugged right back into fantasy lineups without hesitation.--Patrick McGrath
Makes sense. They should slip by CAR this week without him.
 
@VoiceOfTheStar
i couldn’t readily identify any added tape on CeeDee Lamb’s ankle today. 👀 (i got a close-up for your own assessment.)

likely one reason for his smile and his added energy in today’s rehab group.

soon, 88. #Cowboys

Jesse Morse, M.D.
CeeDee is close. Either Week 6 or Week 7, just depends on how he feels over the next 2 days.
 

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