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WR Christian Watson, GB (1 Viewer)

barackdhouse said:
cross1420 said:
Scooby1974 said:
FFCollusion said:
I don't think this forum lets you embed tweets, so forgive the copy\paste format.

Reminder: 7 WRs have had 2.25 or higher yards per route run as a rookie

Odell Beckham
Tyreek Hill
AJ Brown
Justin Jefferson
Ja'Marr Chase
Christian Watson
Chris Olave

The other 5 all finished as Top 7 WRs in Fantasy PPG in their second year

DRAFT OLAVE AND WATSON

And some other stats I found while digging:
Watson ranked 14th in open rate (per ESPN analytics)
12th in yards per route run
third in fantasy points per route run
He was fourth in YAC per reception behind only Deebo Samuel, Rondale Moore, and Jaylen Waddle (minimum 50 targets, per PFF)
From Week 10 forward, he produced 584 yards and eight TDs on 35 touches. That accounted for the 10th-most fantasy points at the position.
23% target share (6.5 per game)
85th percentile or better in YPR, YPT, aDOT, RAC and YPRR

Just a reminder, he runs 4.36 (96th percentile)
Speed score of 98th percentile
Burst score is 95th percentile
Catch Radius is 97th percentile

44% College dominator score (90th percentile)
QB rating per target 2nd in the league
Fantasy Points per target 1st in the league
Fantasy Points per route run 3rd in the league
12th in yards per route run
15th in yards per target
17th in yards per reception
7th in catch rate
12th in aDOT
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All good. But he has Jordan Love at QB now, so it'll be interesting to see how these numbers shake out.
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IM not sure why everyone is down on Love, dude was a 1st draft pick (26th overall) and sat behind one of the greatest QB's for 3 years and learned. Rodgers did the same thing behind Farve and look how good Rodgers turned out. Yes that doesn't work for everyone but I'd gamble that Love is ready to go and I'm sure eager to get his chance. I just don't see how Love is a downgrade as much as everyone else does I guess.
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and he flashed albeit in limited action so far. and the Packers obviously believe in him.
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The Packers HAVE to believe in him, like the 49ers have to believe in Purdy and the WTF (haha) have to believe in Howell. But the proof will only be in the pudding.
 
Scooby1974 said:
barackdhouse said:
cross1420 said:
Scooby1974 said:
FFCollusion said:
I don't think this forum lets you embed tweets, so forgive the copy\paste format.

Reminder: 7 WRs have had 2.25 or higher yards per route run as a rookie

Odell Beckham
Tyreek Hill
AJ Brown
Justin Jefferson
Ja'Marr Chase
Christian Watson
Chris Olave

The other 5 all finished as Top 7 WRs in Fantasy PPG in their second year

DRAFT OLAVE AND WATSON

And some other stats I found while digging:
Watson ranked 14th in open rate (per ESPN analytics)
12th in yards per route run
third in fantasy points per route run
He was fourth in YAC per reception behind only Deebo Samuel, Rondale Moore, and Jaylen Waddle (minimum 50 targets, per PFF)
From Week 10 forward, he produced 584 yards and eight TDs on 35 touches. That accounted for the 10th-most fantasy points at the position.
23% target share (6.5 per game)
85th percentile or better in YPR, YPT, aDOT, RAC and YPRR

Just a reminder, he runs 4.36 (96th percentile)
Speed score of 98th percentile
Burst score is 95th percentile
Catch Radius is 97th percentile

44% College dominator score (90th percentile)
QB rating per target 2nd in the league
Fantasy Points per target 1st in the league
Fantasy Points per route run 3rd in the league
12th in yards per route run
15th in yards per target
17th in yards per reception
7th in catch rate
12th in aDOT
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All good. But he has Jordan Love at QB now, so it'll be interesting to see how these numbers shake out.
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IM not sure why everyone is down on Love, dude was a 1st draft pick (26th overall) and sat behind one of the greatest QB's for 3 years and learned. Rodgers did the same thing behind Farve and look how good Rodgers turned out. Yes that doesn't work for everyone but I'd gamble that Love is ready to go and I'm sure eager to get his chance. I just don't see how Love is a downgrade as much as everyone else does I guess.
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and he flashed albeit in limited action so far. and the Packers obviously believe in him.
Click to expand...
The Packers HAVE to believe in him, like the 49ers have to believe in Purdy and the WTF (haha) have to believe in Howell. But the proof will only be in the pudding.
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Did the 49ers HAVE to believe in Lance, too? Isn't that the better example? If Love wasn't ready they would have been hedging their bets by now. But you're right he hasn't really done anything yet.
 
barackdhouse said:
Scooby1974 said:
barackdhouse said:
cross1420 said:
Scooby1974 said:
FFCollusion said:
I don't think this forum lets you embed tweets, so forgive the copy\paste format.

Reminder: 7 WRs have had 2.25 or higher yards per route run as a rookie

Odell Beckham
Tyreek Hill
AJ Brown
Justin Jefferson
Ja'Marr Chase
Christian Watson
Chris Olave

The other 5 all finished as Top 7 WRs in Fantasy PPG in their second year

DRAFT OLAVE AND WATSON

And some other stats I found while digging:
Watson ranked 14th in open rate (per ESPN analytics)
12th in yards per route run
third in fantasy points per route run
He was fourth in YAC per reception behind only Deebo Samuel, Rondale Moore, and Jaylen Waddle (minimum 50 targets, per PFF)
From Week 10 forward, he produced 584 yards and eight TDs on 35 touches. That accounted for the 10th-most fantasy points at the position.
23% target share (6.5 per game)
85th percentile or better in YPR, YPT, aDOT, RAC and YPRR

Just a reminder, he runs 4.36 (96th percentile)
Speed score of 98th percentile
Burst score is 95th percentile
Catch Radius is 97th percentile

44% College dominator score (90th percentile)
QB rating per target 2nd in the league
Fantasy Points per target 1st in the league
Fantasy Points per route run 3rd in the league
12th in yards per route run
15th in yards per target
17th in yards per reception
7th in catch rate
12th in aDOT
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All good. But he has Jordan Love at QB now, so it'll be interesting to see how these numbers shake out.
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IM not sure why everyone is down on Love, dude was a 1st draft pick (26th overall) and sat behind one of the greatest QB's for 3 years and learned. Rodgers did the same thing behind Farve and look how good Rodgers turned out. Yes that doesn't work for everyone but I'd gamble that Love is ready to go and I'm sure eager to get his chance. I just don't see how Love is a downgrade as much as everyone else does I guess.
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and he flashed albeit in limited action so far. and the Packers obviously believe in him.
Click to expand...
The Packers HAVE to believe in him, like the 49ers have to believe in Purdy and the WTF (haha) have to believe in Howell. But the proof will only be in the pudding.
Click to expand...
Did the 49ers HAVE to believe in Lance, too? Isn't that the better example? If Love wasn't ready they would have been hedging their bets by now. But you're right he hasn't really done anything yet.
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Will be one of the more interesting situations to watch this year. Sitting for 3 years behind Rodgers was probably a good thing for Love. Wish Lance had the same opportunity but because he was over drafted at #3 overall, the expectations were sky high and he was rushed (plus the 49ers didn't have a great QB to have him sit behind). I like Love to throw for 3500-3800 yards this year.
 
Love doesn't need to be Rodgers for Watson to be Watson. Love just needs to not be Zach Wilson. I personally think he will be more like Derek Carr, which is just fine for Watson to get his, health (always) permitting.
 
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KingPrawn said:
Snoopy said:
KingPrawn said:
Snoopy said:
cross1420 said:
IM not sure why everyone is down on Love, dude was a 1st draft pick (20th overall) and sat behind one of the greatest QB's for 3 years and learned. Rodgers did the same thing behind Farve and look how good Rodgers turned out. Yes that doesn't work for everyone but I'd gamble that Love is ready to go and I'm sure eager to get his chance. I just don't see how Love is a downgrade as much as everyone else does I guess.
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Love was 26th overall.
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IIRC Rodgers was 24th overall. I know it's an easy point to bring up Watson had Rodgers last year, but Rodgers was just average last year. I think Love can match Rodgers last year
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It was an unusual draft. He was a legitimate #1 consideration where the 49ers took Alex Smith instead. Then the following teams had no need for a QB and no one wanting to trade up for one. Then somehow fell to #24 where the Packers swoop down on him. He wouldn't have lasted past that though as Washington took Jason Campbell with the #25 pick.

No way was Love considered a legitimate pick any higher than where was picked.
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Yes but to compare Love to peak Rodgers just isn't fair or correct process. Let's compare Love this year to Rodgers' 2022 or even Rodgers' first year as a starter. I think those are achievable for Love. And if Love can match Rodgers' 2022 then I think Watson will be just fine.

Rodgers threw for 3700 yards, 26 TDs and 12 INTs last year. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibilities for Love
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Agree totally...and what if Love produces = playing in a division with 3 teams that have terrible defenses and good offenses. Lot's of shootouts? Maybe Love is good (Packers haven't had a bad QB in 40 years), maybe he hits 30+TD...
 
bj diggy said:
KingPrawn said:
Snoopy said:
KingPrawn said:
Snoopy said:
cross1420 said:
IM not sure why everyone is down on Love, dude was a 1st draft pick (20th overall) and sat behind one of the greatest QB's for 3 years and learned. Rodgers did the same thing behind Farve and look how good Rodgers turned out. Yes that doesn't work for everyone but I'd gamble that Love is ready to go and I'm sure eager to get his chance. I just don't see how Love is a downgrade as much as everyone else does I guess.
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Love was 26th overall.
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IIRC Rodgers was 24th overall. I know it's an easy point to bring up Watson had Rodgers last year, but Rodgers was just average last year. I think Love can match Rodgers last year
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It was an unusual draft. He was a legitimate #1 consideration where the 49ers took Alex Smith instead. Then the following teams had no need for a QB and no one wanting to trade up for one. Then somehow fell to #24 where the Packers swoop down on him. He wouldn't have lasted past that though as Washington took Jason Campbell with the #25 pick.

No way was Love considered a legitimate pick any higher than where was picked.
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Yes but to compare Love to peak Rodgers just isn't fair or correct process. Let's compare Love this year to Rodgers' 2022 or even Rodgers' first year as a starter. I think those are achievable for Love. And if Love can match Rodgers' 2022 then I think Watson will be just fine.

Rodgers threw for 3700 yards, 26 TDs and 12 INTs last year. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibilities for Love
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Agree totally...and what if Love produces = playing in a division with 3 teams that have terrible defenses and good offenses. Lot's of shootouts? Maybe Love is good (Packers haven't had a bad QB in 40 years), maybe he hits 30+TD...
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More like 31 years. Randy Wright was there up to 35 years ago.
 
Snoopy said:
bj diggy said:
KingPrawn said:
Snoopy said:
KingPrawn said:
Snoopy said:
cross1420 said:
IM not sure why everyone is down on Love, dude was a 1st draft pick (20th overall) and sat behind one of the greatest QB's for 3 years and learned. Rodgers did the same thing behind Farve and look how good Rodgers turned out. Yes that doesn't work for everyone but I'd gamble that Love is ready to go and I'm sure eager to get his chance. I just don't see how Love is a downgrade as much as everyone else does I guess.
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Love was 26th overall.
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IIRC Rodgers was 24th overall. I know it's an easy point to bring up Watson had Rodgers last year, but Rodgers was just average last year. I think Love can match Rodgers last year
Click to expand...
It was an unusual draft. He was a legitimate #1 consideration where the 49ers took Alex Smith instead. Then the following teams had no need for a QB and no one wanting to trade up for one. Then somehow fell to #24 where the Packers swoop down on him. He wouldn't have lasted past that though as Washington took Jason Campbell with the #25 pick.

No way was Love considered a legitimate pick any higher than where was picked.
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Yes but to compare Love to peak Rodgers just isn't fair or correct process. Let's compare Love this year to Rodgers' 2022 or even Rodgers' first year as a starter. I think those are achievable for Love. And if Love can match Rodgers' 2022 then I think Watson will be just fine.

Rodgers threw for 3700 yards, 26 TDs and 12 INTs last year. I don't think that's out of the realm of possibilities for Love
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Agree totally...and what if Love produces = playing in a division with 3 teams that have terrible defenses and good offenses. Lot's of shootouts? Maybe Love is good (Packers haven't had a bad QB in 40 years), maybe he hits 30+TD...
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More like 31 years. Randy Wright was there up to 35 years ago.
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Ugh, thanks for reminding me of the Randy Wright era. Or as we called him, Randy Wrong.
 
Sorry guys. I have him (and Kelce) and it seems my whole FF team is gonna be on the injury report before Week 1 even starts 🫣😭
 
“Jordan Love’s prediction if Matt LaFleur opens season with shot play to Christian Watson: “I think Christian will make it right this time and go score a TD for sure. You never know. With a guy with speed like that, he’s always a threat to take that first play to the house.” - via Ryan Wood on Twitter

Quote from Jordan Love after today’s practice. Seems like maybe he’s not too worried about CW’s injury? Hoping him taking the day to ride the stationary bike was just a precaution for some soreness
 
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the Colts “asked the Packers for second-year WR Christian Watson” when discussing a potential trade for Jonathan Taylor.

This lines up with previous reports stating Indy tried to get Jaylen Waddle from the Dolphins in a potential Taylor trade. It’s clear that the Colts had an absurd asking price on the running back they refuse to pay. The talks with Miami and Green Bay were both reportedly shut down quickly. Taylor is now on the PUP list because of his ankle issue. He is expected to be ready to return by Week 5.
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Packers WR Christian Watson (hamstring) says he has “a lot better chance” of playing Week 2 against the Falcons.

Watson missed the Packs’ season opener due to a hamstring injury that popped up early last week. We don’t know exactly how long Watson has been dealing with this injury, but the second-year receiver did play in the team’s final preseason game on August 26th. Watson did not log a practice with the Packers last week, so it will be interesting to see if he’s able to get on the field when the Packers drop their first injury report on Wednesday.
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Christian Watson (hamstring) did not practice Thursday.

Watson continues to be slowed by a hamstring injury that saw him miss the Pack’s Week 1 win over the Bears and could be held out again this week. He’ll have one more day to get on the field before we learn his status heading into the weekend, but if he’s unable to go, it will be the Romeo Doubs and Jayden Reed show vs. Atlanta.
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This is not good, you never thought he was going to miss the first 2 weeks when you drafted him
Most took him as a possible WR2/3, we're not talking about a reserve.

It seems to be trending that he's not playing this weekend.
Packers did win by 18 last week without him
 
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports Christian Watson (hamstring, questionable) will be inactive for Week 2 against the Falcons.

Watson got in just one limited practice during the week. Considering his injury history, that was never going to be enough to get him on the field vs. the Falcons. It’s a massive loss for the Packers’ offense since Aaron Jones (hamstring) is also sidelined, not to mention a massive missed opportunity for sophomore Watson. Romeo Doubs and Jayden Reed will pick up the slack in the passing game but neither are worth a WR3 dart throw.
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Packers WR Christian Watson (hamstring) went through individual drills on Wednesday.
Aaron Jones (hamstring) was also back at practice but he did not go through individual drills. Watson being on the field and able to take part in drills is a good step, but he will need to progress to team drills before we can feel confident in his potential return for a crucial game against the Saints on Sunday.
 
Drake Hater said:
Watson not practicing today per report.

Not good.
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Crap.

Questionable is my least favorite injury status. I’ll start a guy that’s probable and I’ll sit a guy that’s doubtful but questionable is a no man’s land. Starting guys that ultimately don’t play is not the way to go about winning head-to-head matchups.
 
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