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Yes but it a place with lots of targets available, and a QB who has supported good fantasy options in his career.. I think Carr is Dalton 2.0 but I think he is capable of supporting a WR1. I know Cooper didn't work out but he did work out for some years. Plus DK is nothing like Amari Cooper.
You asked. Just pointing out an example of it not being an ideal landing spot.
Oh yes, sorry. I didn't mean to be critical. I was just trying to carry out the logic of the argument to see if we could figure it out. I am a little unsure about what to make of the Oakland offense as a landing spot.
Nothing too much to know that you didn't already mention.
interesting take, both players seem to lack college production...you basing it totally on Boykins having good 3cone drill? Metcalf average over 20 ypc...
Forgive my ignorance but do they get two reps for the 3cone like they do the 40? I always wonder about things like a bad start at the gun or just a single, simple technique mistake that can cause a poor time. Not that Metcalf wouldn't have done poorly anyway, but I feel like these guys should get like 5 reps on every event. Hall of fame WRs didn't get a perfect jump on the snap 100% of the time in NFL games. Not saying this applies to Metcalf here but one rep to be judged on is a tough test.
Ah I see. Well that does make a big difference and certainly eliminates the question of a poor initial reaction time. Thanks.
That is weird.
I dunno. Sone guys just run that drill bad.
Even if he is Kevin White... I will fault zero people for taking the chance that he’s Julio. His production wasn’t so bad where he should be highly questioned. He was hurt but probably on his way to at least close to a 1,000yd season.
I've looked at both players tape. Boykins was in my top 5 pre combine. Metcalf wasn't. Boykins killed the combine on all the measurables. Metcalf ran incredibly fast, had great jumps, and came in at nearly 230. All those things are great but didn't look like a natural catcher of the football and his agility times really sucked.
Those concerns are certainly there, but some are exaggerated I think. I'll go into this from the perspective noted earlier, as someone who really likes Harry/Brown and went into my Metcalf studies really wanting to dislike him and write him off as a one-trick pony.
DK and Evans as far from comparable as could be to me. Interesting take because when I was thinking about players that DK compares too I thought of Evans as the exact opposite type athlete. Evans is a former basketball player that is very fluid.
This seems pretty meaningless when there 100s of other factors that will determine the success or non-success of a WR. Narrowing it down to just one of those factors seems arbitrary.
In what way is Metcalf not fluid? He looked very fluid in the gauntlet/route drills at the combine to me.
I don't see fluid. I didn't see a WR easy catching the ball. I saw him fighting it a bit. He has big hands so it might just look awkward.
I think the main issue is that there isn’t a clear cut 1.01 player in this draft. Metcalf has many traits that makes him tempting at 1.01. I don’t own the 1.01 in any leagues but if he was drafted by the right team I’d have to consider him there. I also like a few other WRs as well so they would get consideration as well.
No, but when you pair a side to side test with the criticism that he can only go deep, it makes you wonder
I don’t know - did we really think a 230 pound WR with his speed was going to be running Julian Edelman type routes anyway?
Well put Boykins up there.
Sounds about right. "Situation" will heavily influence the top end of round 1 rookie drafts, but I don't expect any of these 3 will fall to 1.05. I've got a nice consolation prize headed my way (in premium TE league).
Very possible WR goes 1-2-3 throwing in Butler.
