WR T.Y. Hilton, DAL (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

What goes up must come down, and I think Hilton has peaked and will regress this season.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

What goes up must come down, and I think Hilton has peaked and will regress this season.

Just based on the laws of physics?

Dude is young, talented, and has a top 3 fantasy QB throwing to him. The addition of an aging Andre Johnson will arguably have a negligible or minimal effect over Wayne/Nicks. The addition of Gore may lead to more balance, but it also may hlep keep defenses honest, which could set up some big plays to the big play WR.

Aside from physics, I dont see the situation causing a huge difference in production, unless you think Dorsett will actually put TY on the sidelines - which is a longshot this year.

 

[JohnnyU]

What goes up must come down, and I think Hilton has peaked and will regress this season.

Just based on the laws of physics?

Dude is young, talented, and has a top 3 fantasy QB throwing to him. The addition of an aging Andre Johnson will arguably have a negligible or minimal effect over Wayne/Nicks. The addition of Gore may lead to more balance, but it also may hlep keep defenses honest, which could set up some big plays to the big play WR.

Aside from physics, I dont see the situation causing a huge difference in production, unless you think Dorsett will actually put TY on the sidelines - which is a longshot this year.

Of course Dorsett isn't putting anyone on the bench, but he will have value and with all the weapons Luck has, it has to have some affect on Hilton. The one that Dorsett hurts the most is Moncrief.

 

[Sabertooth]

What goes up must come down, and I think Hilton has peaked and will regress this season.

Just based on the laws of physics?

Dude is young, talented, and has a top 3 fantasy QB throwing to him. The addition of an aging Andre Johnson will arguably have a negligible or minimal effect over Wayne/Nicks. The addition of Gore may lead to more balance, but it also may hlep keep defenses honest, which could set up some big plays to the big play WR.

Aside from physics, I dont see the situation causing a huge difference in production, unless you think Dorsett will actually put TY on the sidelines - which is a longshot this year.

Even more scientific, gut!

 

[Slider]

Johnson only has a couple years left and until someone develops they have to sign him. Cobb is the perfect comparison. I think the same thing happens.

 

[Shutout]

What goes up must come down, and I think Hilton has peaked and will regress this season.

Eventually, yes, but Hilton is young and has chemistry with Luck and brings a key element to the Colts in what they like to do.

For every Gio Bernard that comes down, there are also Terrell Davis' that do not, even when it looks like it can't get any better.

I know a lot of people have fashioned together a lot of cases centered around the presence of Dorsett but I don't understand why that is focused on so much considering that Hilton is proven and Dorsett hasn't shown anything except that he can run fast yet.

Also, Hilton is in a contract year. Usually when a top 15-20 WR is in a contract year, we talk about how they tend to really play at a high level as they seek to cash in after the season is over.

And then there's the area regarding Andre Johnson and the exit of Reggie. Luck really deferred to Reggie a lot. Maybe even when he shouldn't have near the end. Andre Johnson is a player that will absolutely command attention. Instead of talking about how all the mouths to feed hurt, I think we should at least recognize the other side of the coin and talk about how that could open up occasional big plays for Hilton. If Hilton were a Reggie Wayne type of player, that wouldn't mean as much but Hilton is like DJax or Harvin or a guy like that-their game and big play is perfect for that "occasional big opportunity" because that's what will give you 3-4 games a year where instead of 7/98 and maybe a td, you end up with 11/142/1-2. Those games are the fantasy makers and, for me, as long as Hilton isn't my #1 WR, I like that random bullet in the chamber every week.

 

[JohnnyU]

What goes up must come down, and I think Hilton has peaked and will regress this season.

Eventually, yes, but Hilton is young and has chemistry with Luck and brings a key element to the Colts in what they like to do.

For every Gio Bernard that comes down, there are also Terrell Davis' that do not, even when it looks like it can't get any better.

I know a lot of people have fashioned together a lot of cases centered around the presence of Dorsett but I don't understand why that is focused on so much considering that Hilton is proven and Dorsett hasn't shown anything except that he can run fast yet.

Also, Hilton is in a contract year. Usually when a top 15-20 WR is in a contract year, we talk about how they tend to really play at a high level as they seek to cash in after the season is over.

And then there's the area regarding Andre Johnson and the exit of Reggie. Luck really deferred to Reggie a lot. Maybe even when he shouldn't have near the end. Andre Johnson is a player that will absolutely command attention. Instead of talking about how all the mouths to feed hurt, I think we should at least recognize the other side of the coin and talk about how that could open up occasional big plays for Hilton. If Hilton were a Reggie Wayne type of player, that wouldn't mean as much but Hilton is like DJax or Harvin or a guy like that-their game and big play is perfect for that "occasional big opportunity" because that's what will give you 3-4 games a year where instead of 7/98 and maybe a td, you end up with 11/142/1-2. Those games are the fantasy makers and, for me, as long as Hilton isn't my #1 WR, I like that random bullet in the chamber every week.

Dorsett is the real deal and the Colts will find ways to use him early and often. However, I agree Hilton will get his as well and the presence of Dorsett hurts Moncrief the most.

 

[DropKick]

What goes up must come down, and I think Hilton has peaked and will regress this season.

Just based on the laws of physics?

Dude is young, talented, and has a top 3 fantasy QB throwing to him. The addition of an aging Andre Johnson will arguably have a negligible or minimal effect over Wayne/Nicks. The addition of Gore may lead to more balance, but it also may hlep keep defenses honest, which could set up some big plays to the big play WR.

Aside from physics, I dont see the situation causing a huge difference in production, unless you think Dorsett will actually put TY on the sidelines - which is a longshot this year.

Of course Dorsett isn't putting anyone on the bench, but he will have value and with all the weapons Luck has, it has to have some affect on Hilton. The one that Dorsett hurts the most is Moncrief.

Agree there has to be some effect on Hilton. Quite a few "new" weapons; Johnson, Moncrief (experience), Dorsett and Dwayne Allen (healthy?), too.. I think Johnson will surprise his critics; Wayne caught over 100 balls at the same age and Johnson will likely not be the focal point of a defense anymore. You have to think his motivation is sky high to play with a top notch QB on a highly competitive team.

Dorsett hurts Moncrief and the reverse is true, too. One area where Dorsett could impact TY is the long ball. TY put up almost 300 more yards in 2014 on the same number of receptions as in 2013.

 

[ericttspikes]

I have TY in a dynasty league and after the Colts took Dorsett I tried to move him to the Luck owner who wasn't interested. The window of getting anything of value for him long term is closing. I wouldn't be surprised if his playoff performance helped seal his fate. He dropped 30% of his targets. TY intimating that Dez's deal set the bar for him is silly. I agree that the Colts shouldn't pay up for him, but Luck will still make him a ton of money.

 

[Faust]

Does T.Y. Hilton Deserve an Elite-Level Contract?

 

[cstu]

I have TY in a dynasty league and after the Colts took Dorsett I tried to move him to the Luck owner who wasn't interested. The window of getting anything of value for him long term is closing. I wouldn't be surprised if his playoff performance helped seal his fate. He dropped 30% of his targets. TY intimating that Dez's deal set the bar for him is silly. I agree that the Colts shouldn't pay up for him, but Luck will still make him a ton of money.

Yes, he had a rough playoffs but didn't have a problem with drops during the regular season. Link

BTW, DT had two drops in the playoff game against the Colts.

 

[ericttspikes]

I have TY in a dynasty league and after the Colts took Dorsett I tried to move him to the Luck owner who wasn't interested. The window of getting anything of value for him long term is closing. I wouldn't be surprised if his playoff performance helped seal his fate. He dropped 30% of his targets. TY intimating that Dez's deal set the bar for him is silly. I agree that the Colts shouldn't pay up for him, but Luck will still make him a ton of money.

Yes, he had a rough playoffs but didn't have a problem with drops during the regular season. Link

BTW, DT had two drops in the playoff game against the Colts.

Something made the Colts burn a 1st on a WR with similar skill set as TY. If he was as valuable to the Colts as DT is to the Broncos the Colts should of been prepared to give him elite WR money and addressed o-line or D in the draft. I'm in the TY isn't elite camp, and it look like the Colts might agree. We'll have to see.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

I have TY in a dynasty league and after the Colts took Dorsett I tried to move him to the Luck owner who wasn't interested. The window of getting anything of value for him long term is closing. I wouldn't be surprised if his playoff performance helped seal his fate. He dropped 30% of his targets. TY intimating that Dez's deal set the bar for him is silly. I agree that the Colts shouldn't pay up for him, but Luck will still make him a ton of money.

Yes, he had a rough playoffs but didn't have a problem with drops during the regular season. Link

BTW, DT had two drops in the playoff game against the Colts.

Something made the Colts burn a 1st on a WR with similar skill set as TY. If he was as valuable to the Colts as DT is to the Broncos the Colts should of been prepared to give him elite WR money and addressed o-line or D in the draft. I'm in the TY isn't elite camp, and it look like the Colts might agree. We'll have to see.

Broncos spent a mid second round pick on Latimer last year. Not all that different. Nobody was worried that the Broncos didnt view DT as elite.

I understand that DT is in a different tier than TY - just saying that the pick of Dorsett is not necessarily a tell-tale that TY is not viewed as a necessary piece of the Colts future. Having 2-3 top end WR to match with an elite QB is never going to be dissed as a bad strategy. Look at Green Bay.

ETA: Green Bay took Davonte Adams in the middle of the second round also. Doubt that they didnt view both Jordy and Cobb as elite.

 

[Hankmoody]

Will T.Y. Hilton leave the Colts in 2016?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000502140/article/will-ty-hilton-leave-the-colts-in-2016

The writing is on the wall. The Colts are definitely preparing to let Hilton walk after this season and I believe they would be stupid to overpay him considering their WR depth. If they can keep him for a decent price they will, but for those of you who own Hilton in dynasty leagues you probably should be in sell mode. It's probably too late to trade him to savvy dynasty owners for good value but I'm sure you can find a few owners out there that will give you decent value right now, but that won't be for long. Who knows what situation he will end up in, but not having Andrew Luck throw you the ball is a bad thing.

A year ago everyone was saying the same thing about Cobb.

Bingo. This situation is completely fluid right now and has about 3 different what-ifs involved. There's only one sure thing here, and that's Hilton himself, and a year from now the Colts might be looking at WR as a weakness. If people are selling Hilton at a discount I'm buying all day long. Heck even if he does leave he could end up somewhere else with a great QB situation. ATL might be looking for a running mate for Julio, BAL will need to replace Smith at some point, etc etc etc.

 

[Ilov80s]

Will T.Y. Hilton leave the Colts in 2016?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000502140/article/will-ty-hilton-leave-the-colts-in-2016

The writing is on the wall. The Colts are definitely preparing to let Hilton walk after this season and I believe they would be stupid to overpay him considering their WR depth. If they can keep him for a decent price they will, but for those of you who own Hilton in dynasty leagues you probably should be in sell mode. It's probably too late to trade him to savvy dynasty owners for good value but I'm sure you can find a few owners out there that will give you decent value right now, but that won't be for long. Who knows what situation he will end up in, but not having Andrew Luck throw you the ball is a bad thing.

A year ago everyone was saying the same thing about Cobb.

Bingo. This situation is completely fluid right now and has about 3 different what-ifs involved. There's only one sure thing here, and that's Hilton himself, and a year from now the Colts might be looking at WR as a weakness. If people are selling Hilton at a discount I'm buying all day long. Heck even if he does leave he could end up somewhere else with a great QB situation. ATL might be looking for a running mate for Julio, BAL will need to replace Smith at some point, etc etc etc.

Also lots of questionable spots too: Raiders, Texans, Rams could all be in position to spend a large amount of money on a WR.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Encouraging news for Hilton and Luck owners (much moreso Hilton owners)...

T.Y. Hilton - WR - Colts
Agent Drew Rosenhaus tells Bleacher Report's Jason Cole he's talking with the Colts about a long-term contract for T.Y. Hilton.
Per Cole, Hilton is seeking Dez Bryant/Demaryius Thomas money, which is $14 million per year. That might seem high for the pint-sized wideout, but the salary cap is expected to take a significant jump in 2016. Cole expects a deal to get done "relatively soon." We're not as sure, especially after the Colts drafted Hilton-clone Phillip Dorsett. Indy may want to take care of Andrew Luck before handing out any other long-term deals.

 

[DaveL]

start at $14, settle around $12.5, everyone's happy

 

[Shutout]

Encouraging news for Hilton and Luck owners (much moreso Hilton owners)...

T.Y. Hilton - WR - Colts
Agent Drew Rosenhaus tells Bleacher Report's Jason Cole he's talking with the Colts about a long-term contract for T.Y. Hilton.
Per Cole, Hilton is seeking Dez Bryant/Demaryius Thomas money, which is $14 million per year. That might seem high for the pint-sized wideout, but the salary cap is expected to take a significant jump in 2016. Cole expects a deal to get done "relatively soon." We're not as sure, especially after the Colts drafted Hilton-clone Phillip Dorsett. Indy may want to take care of Andrew Luck before handing out any other long-term deals.

Makes sense. Get all the "small" stuff out of the way and KNOW what you're numbers are to work with in 2016 when the cap moves up and Luck's contract needs addressed. Let's everyone know who's staying, who's not, etc. Looks damning for the Tes, for sure.

 

[kface]

Hilton and Luck owner here. I don't think Hilton is anything special in my books. If I am the colts i let him walk unless he takes far less money. I think he has some talent but is generally a product of the system.

 

[Shutout]

Hilton and Luck owner here. I don't think Hilton is anything special in my books. If I am the colts i let him walk unless he takes far less money. I think he has some talent but is generally a product of the system.

Disagree. No, he's not Calvin Johnson but he does possess a particular set of skills that few have. Although in different ways, he is like a Welker, a DJax, a Steve Smith, who has a unique thing about him that translates to different playing environments and I think the Colts need that more than we generally admit.

To support that theory, I would point to the drafting of Dorsett. That drafting of that player indicates, on some level, that the COlts want to keep that type of ability on the team, whether that is by protecting against a Hilton injury or replacing Hilton with a similar talent at some point or whatever. Also, in the ff community, we generally have valued Dorsett fairly highly based on his ability although he merely "looks" to have similar skillsets as Hilton to this point without having proven it on the field.

Luck is the MAN, no doubt, but sometimes players benefit each other as much as one carries the others. I think it is more of a case where a high tide lifts all boats.

 

[Slider]

Calling Dorsett a Hilton clone is ridiculous. Same size with ability but let's see it happen for a year. None of these "experts" saw Hilton as anything at the same time in his career.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Calling Dorsett a Hilton clone is ridiculous. Same size with ability but let's see it happen for a year. None of these "experts" saw Hilton as anything at the same time in his career.

A lot of people liked Hilton (minus his size), if I remember correctly. He was absolutely electric in college.

I don't really think it's ridiculous to call a guy with a similar skill-set and a much better pedigree a "Hilton clone". It's a skill-set comparison, nothing more.

 

[zed2283]

Is it time we fix the thread title to his actual name, please?

 

[stbugs]

Hilton and Luck owner here. I don't think Hilton is anything special in my books. If I am the colts i let him walk unless he takes far less money. I think he has some talent but is generally a product of the system.

Disagree. No, he's not Calvin Johnson but he does possess a particular set of skills that few have. Although in different ways, he is like a Welker, a DJax, a Steve Smith, who has a unique thing about him that translates to different playing environments and I think the Colts need that more than we generally admit.

To support that theory, I would point to the drafting of Dorsett. That drafting of that player indicates, on some level, that the COlts want to keep that type of ability on the team, whether that is by protecting against a Hilton injury or replacing Hilton with a similar talent at some point or whatever. Also, in the ff community, we generally have valued Dorsett fairly highly based on his ability although he merely "looks" to have similar skillsets as Hilton to this point without having proven it on the field.

Luck is the MAN, no doubt, but sometimes players benefit each other as much as one carries the others. I think it is more of a case where a high tide lifts all boats.

I am not sure what you were going for with these comparisons, but all 3 of these guys went to new teams recently and happened to be replaced by WRs who all performed well (Edelman, Maclin and Benjamin). If Hilton follows their path, it seems like he will move on from the Colts.

I like Hilton, but I don't think I have seen anything that made me think he was elite in terms of Dez/DT $$$. If I were the Colts, I think I would assume that Luck could live without him and spend that money elsewhere.

 

[DropKick]

Hilton and Luck owner here. I don't think Hilton is anything special in my books. If I am the colts i let him walk unless he takes far less money. I think he has some talent but is generally a product of the system.

I don't see Hilton as a $14M receiver either - more in the 8-10 range.

 

[JohnnyU]

Hilton and Luck owner here. I don't think Hilton is anything special in my books. If I am the colts i let him walk unless he takes far less money. I think he has some talent but is generally a product of the system.

I don't see Hilton as a $14M receiver either - more in the 8-10 range.

Hilton is nuts if he thinks he's worth Demaryius Thomas or Dez Bryant money and the Colts are even bigger idiots if they pay him as such.

 

[fruity pebbles]

The nice thing about having a QB like Luck is you dont have to pay top dollar for your receiving core. Be wise to spend that money on the o-line or defense if they want to take that next step.

 

[kface]

The nice thing about having a QB like Luck is you dont have to pay top dollar for your receiving core. Be wise to spend that money on the o-line or defense if they want to take that next step.

This is the perfect post

With Luck, all you need is an average rb, average wrs and spend a ton of money on oline and dline.

 

[Shutout]

Hilton and Luck owner here. I don't think Hilton is anything special in my books. If I am the colts i let him walk unless he takes far less money. I think he has some talent but is generally a product of the system.

Disagree. No, he's not Calvin Johnson but he does possess a particular set of skills that few have. Although in different ways, he is like a Welker, a DJax, a Steve Smith, who has a unique thing about him that translates to different playing environments and I think the Colts need that more than we generally admit.

To support that theory, I would point to the drafting of Dorsett. That drafting of that player indicates, on some level, that the COlts want to keep that type of ability on the team, whether that is by protecting against a Hilton injury or replacing Hilton with a similar talent at some point or whatever. Also, in the ff community, we generally have valued Dorsett fairly highly based on his ability although he merely "looks" to have similar skillsets as Hilton to this point without having proven it on the field.

Luck is the MAN, no doubt, but sometimes players benefit each other as much as one carries the others. I think it is more of a case where a high tide lifts all boats.

I am not sure what you were going for with these comparisons, but all 3 of these guys went to new teams recently and happened to be replaced by WRs who all performed well (Edelman, Maclin and Benjamin). If Hilton follows their path, it seems like he will move on from the Colts.

I like Hilton, but I don't think I have seen anything that made me think he was elite in terms of Dez/DT $$$. If I were the Colts, I think I would assume that Luck could live without him and spend that money elsewhere.

Exactly what I said. "...has a unique thing about him that translates to different playing environments and I think the Colts need that more than we generally admit. "

All of these players aren't prototypical in what we think of as dominant Wrs in today's game, yet they all have succeeded on different teams with different players/systems. Hilton will be fine (and will get paid) if he leaves but the Colts may be smart to retain him because he brings a certain aspect to the Colts that isn't found in a lot of players.

 

[Boston]

Hilton and Luck owner here. I don't think Hilton is anything special in my books. If I am the colts i let him walk unless he takes far less money. I think he has some talent but is generally a product of the system.

Disagree. No, he's not Calvin Johnson but he does possess a particular set of skills that few have. Although in different ways, he is like a Welker, a DJax, a Steve Smith, who has a unique thing about him that translates to different playing environments and I think the Colts need that more than we generally admit. To support that theory, I would point to the drafting of Dorsett. That drafting of that player indicates, on some level, that the COlts want to keep that type of ability on the team, whether that is by protecting against a Hilton injury or replacing Hilton with a similar talent at some point or whatever. Also, in the ff community, we generally have valued Dorsett fairly highly based on his ability although he merely "looks" to have similar skillsets as Hilton to this point without having proven it on the field.

Luck is the MAN, no doubt, but sometimes players benefit each other as much as one carries the others. I think it is more of a case where a high tide lifts all boats.

I am not sure what you were going for with these comparisons, but all 3 of these guys went to new teams recently and happened to be replaced by WRs who all performed well (Edelman, Maclin and Benjamin). If Hilton follows their path, it seems like he will move on from the Colts.I like Hilton, but I don't think I have seen anything that made me think he was elite in terms of Dez/DT $$$. If I were the Colts, I think I would assume that Luck could live without him and spend that money elsewhere.

Exactly what I said. "...has a unique thing about him that translates to different playing environments and I think the Colts need that more than we generally admit. "All of these players aren't prototypical in what we think of as dominant Wrs in today's game, yet they all have succeeded on different teams with different players/systems. Hilton will be fine (and will get paid) if he leaves but the Colts may be smart to retain him because he brings a certain aspect to the Colts that isn't found in a lot of players.

I think Deion Branch was a perfect example of this...he was much more valuable to the Pats than he was to another team...his talents just seemed to gel with Brady and what the Pats were doing back than...that being said it didn't make sense for the Pats to give him the money he wanted even though his loss hurt...I think a lot of this will come down to whether Hilton wants to stay with the Colts or wants to break the bank...

 

[cstu]

The nice thing about having a QB like Luck is you dont have to pay top dollar for your receiving core. Be wise to spend that money on the o-line or defense if they want to take that next step.

This is the perfect post

With Luck, all you need is an average rb, average wrs and spend a ton of money on oline and dline.

Sounds great in theory, but Peyton won a Super Bowl when the Colts had two highly paid wide receivers - Harrison signed a 6 year/$67M deal in 2004 and Wayne signed a 6 year/$39M deal in the 2006, the year they won the SB.

 

[kface]

The nice thing about having a QB like Luck is you dont have to pay top dollar for your receiving core. Be wise to spend that money on the o-line or defense if they want to take that next step.

This is the perfect post

With Luck, all you need is an average rb, average wrs and spend a ton of money on oline and dline.

Sounds great in theory, but Peyton won a Super Bowl when the Colts had two highly paid wide receivers - Harrison signed a 6 year/$67M deal in 2004 and Wayne signed a 6 year/$39M deal in the 2006, the year they won the SB.

That's the power of a great qb but we also know that Peyton lost a ton of playoff games to teams that man handled them physically. It's not that it can't be done for sure...a great qb immediately puts you into contention every year but you want to keep that qb healthy and on his feet. You give luck an extra second in the pocket and he will be unstoppalbe

 

[Freelove]

The nice thing about having a QB like Luck is you dont have to pay top dollar for your receiving core. Be wise to spend that money on the o-line or defense if they want to take that next step.

This is the perfect post

With Luck, all you need is an average rb, average wrs and spend a ton of money on oline and dline.

Sounds great in theory, but Peyton won a Super Bowl when the Colts had two highly paid wide receivers - Harrison signed a 6 year/$67M deal in 2004 and Wayne signed a 6 year/$39M deal in the 2006, the year they won the SB.

Peyton won a Super Bowl despite this, the one year the Colt D magically stepped up and they were lucky enough to find themselves on a collision course with one of the most talent-deficient SB competitors in history.

It certainly didn't bolster their already insane offense to any new levels of greatness.

 

[ericttspikes]

Calling Dorsett a Hilton clone is ridiculous. Same size with ability but let's see it happen for a year. None of these "experts" saw Hilton as anything at the same time in his career.

I'm thinking Dorsett is better than Hilton, and we'll probably get a chance to see that this year.

 

[JackReacher]

Calling Dorsett a Hilton clone is ridiculous. Same size with ability but let's see it happen for a year. None of these "experts" saw Hilton as anything at the same time in his career.

I'm thinking Dorsett is better than Hilton, and we'll probably get a chance to see that this year.

If you're right, that means Dorsett will be posting top 5-10 numbers

 

[Boston]

The nice thing about having a QB like Luck is you dont have to pay top dollar for your receiving core. Be wise to spend that money on the o-line or defense if they want to take that next step.

While this makes sense it isn't how the Colts have conducted business since the Manning era began...whether it was drafting Marvin, Wayne, Dallas Clark, Edgerrin, Addai and now Dorsett (or this year's signing of Gore and Johnson) the Colts have usually gone all in on the offensive-weapon side of things...I think that formula leads to regular season success but usually gets exposed come playoff time...

 

[ericttspikes]

Calling Dorsett a Hilton clone is ridiculous. Same size with ability but let's see it happen for a year. None of these "experts" saw Hilton as anything at the same time in his career.

I'm thinking Dorsett is better than Hilton, and we'll probably get a chance to see that this year.

If you're right, that means Dorsett will be posting top 5-10 numbers

He's not starting day 1, so I doubt that. But if his game translates to the pros like he played in college, there is no doubt he is more talented than TY IMO. And I think he'll flash at some point this year.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

T.Y. Hilton - WR - Colts

NFL Network's Rand Getlin reports the Colts are "working diligently" toward an extension with contract-year WR T.Y. Hilton.

Getlin does acknowledge there is "no definitive timeline" for a deal to be finalized. Although many assumed Hilton was as good as gone after the Colts used a first-round draft pick on Phillip Dorsett, both local and national media have reported Indianapolis remains intent on locking up Hilton long term. Hilton's Dynasty owners, in particular, should hope for a deal.

Source: NFL Network on Twitter

Aug 3 - 6:44 PM

 

[cstu]

Calling Dorsett a Hilton clone is ridiculous. Same size with ability but let's see it happen for a year. None of these "experts" saw Hilton as anything at the same time in his career.

I'm thinking Dorsett is better than Hilton, and we'll probably get a chance to see that this year.

If you're right, that means Dorsett will be posting top 5-10 numbers

He's not starting day 1, so I doubt that. But if his game translates to the pros like he played in college, there is no doubt he is more talented than TY IMO. And I think he'll flash at some point this year.

He needs to prove he can run more than a go route.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

T.Y. Hilton - WR - Colts

The Colts and the agent for T.Y. Hilton will continue face-to-face contract negotiations Wednesday.

Despite drafting Hilton clone Phillip Dorsett in the first round and having Donte Moncrief in the fold, the Colts are serious about locking down Hilton. He's entering the final year of his contract at a base salary of relative pennies ($665,000). Hilton is reportedly seeking Dez Bryant/Demaryius Thomas kind of money, which will be tough with the Colts still needing to do the Andrew Luck deal.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

Aug 11 - 12:46 PM

 

[cstu]

"Having played with T.Y. for three years now," Andrew Luck said Monday, "there's not much that'll surprise you with what he does on the field. You know he is incredible. He's got this knack for being able to run down a ball and make it look easy, make a low catch and stay on his feet and make it look easy. I think he's done an incredible job of that all three years. I think we're all continuing to grow and feel more comfortable and try to help out as much as you can. I don't think much surprises me about him anymore."

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Crazy how Hilton still doesn't get any respect. Last year it was the Hilton wasn't a number 1 argument. This year he's a product of the system and will be replaced by dorsett, simple as that. I just don't get it

 

[Grahamburn]

Crazy how Hilton still doesn't get any respect. Last year it was the Hilton wasn't a number 1 argument. This year he's a product of the system and will be replaced by dorsett, simple as that. I just don't get it

It happens to most receivers who play with an obviously amazing QB.

 

[Meatwad Reloaded]

I am not sure how it is almost conventional wisdom that Luck is the number one qb this year (which usually means 35 or more tds and close to 500 yards), but some folks think that his #1 guy isn't that great.... .

In ppr he is more than solid, definitely worth 10 mil a year. No way he gets 14 mil though...

 

[jtd13]

Per rotoworld, Hilton and the Colts have come to a long-term agreement.

 

[Sabertooth]

Interesting.

 

[SayWhat?]

5yr $65MM

 

[Gianluca]

39 million of which is guaranteed.

 

[werdnoynek]

He deserves it. Good for him. Good for his Dynasty stock as well... Luck for the next 5 years, yummy.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Thoughts on Moncrief and Dorsett going forward?