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RB Melvin Gordon, BAL (5 Viewers)
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rockaction
Footballguy
Gordon's probably on a super thin leash, no doubt, but he looked better at the end of last year than the beginning, that's for sure. Sharp, decisive, and quick. If he's what they say he is in the passing game, he's not likely to yield to Williams just yet. Williams is not necessarily solidified as a pro-caliber receiving back just yet, because he only got a certain number of snaps with Michael Carter also roaming the backfield at UNC during passing downs.
The above article about how Gordon's job has "never been in more jeopardy" is about ball security and if he puts the ball on the ground. It's really a nothingburger but for a bit of a threat from a talk radio station.
But yeah, a second-round pick and all around talent is looking over his shoulder at RB. Should Gordon slip an inch, he'll be sitting if Williams is pro ready. If Williams shines in limited exposure, also look out.
The above article about how Gordon's job has "never been in more jeopardy" is about ball security and if he puts the ball on the ground. It's really a nothingburger but for a bit of a threat from a talk radio station.
But yeah, a second-round pick and all around talent is looking over his shoulder at RB. Should Gordon slip an inch, he'll be sitting if Williams is pro ready. If Williams shines in limited exposure, also look out.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Hey I know that's the popular narrative this spring but have you ever come across any advanced stats on usage? Because the last two years their touches and pass receptions are almost identical. Did they alternate series or was it a true thunder n lightning type roles? Seem like very similar production but admittedly I have seen virtually no ACC football the last several years. Williams had twice as many touchdowns in 2020 so presumably he got a sh!t-ton more RZ carries.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Completely agree. And ran with a lot of purpose. Last 5 games averaged 5.3 ypc and 86 ypg.
If I were to speculate I'd say it had something to do with a "come to Jesus" moment after the DUI charges.
The Frankman
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
yellowdog
Footballguy
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports free agent RB Melvin Gordon is "in discussions" with the Ravens.
Gordon, whose return to Denver seems more unlikely every day, would create a fantasy backfield nightmare if he signs with Baltimore and joins J.K. Dobbins and Gus Edwards, both of whom are returning from ACL injuries. Turning 29 in April, Gordon would likely sign an incentive-laden deal with the Ravens if Baltimore can lure him into a short-term contract. Gordon flashed at times in 2021, posting the second highest yards per carry (4.5) of his six-year NFL career while scoring ten touchdowns for the Broncos. He would presumably split the workload in the Ravens' backfield, though it's unclear whether he would be the 1A or 1B back. His departure from Denver would catapult Javonte Williams into workhorse-back territory for 2022.
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/9032/melvin-gordon
Gordon, whose return to Denver seems more unlikely every day, would create a fantasy backfield nightmare if he signs with Baltimore and joins J.K. Dobbins and Gus Edwards, both of whom are returning from ACL injuries. Turning 29 in April, Gordon would likely sign an incentive-laden deal with the Ravens if Baltimore can lure him into a short-term contract. Gordon flashed at times in 2021, posting the second highest yards per carry (4.5) of his six-year NFL career while scoring ten touchdowns for the Broncos. He would presumably split the workload in the Ravens' backfield, though it's unclear whether he would be the 1A or 1B back. His departure from Denver would catapult Javonte Williams into workhorse-back territory for 2022.
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/9032/melvin-gordon
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JohnnyU
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Mildly surprised they would re-sign him before the draft. Figured he'd be more of a fall back if they didn't take anyone. Then again, he's probably better than anyone they'd be able to pick in the draft.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I think he should have held out for.... what was it? It was something like $15M/season because $12m/season was an insulting offer if I remember correctly.
If you want to read some pure comedy gold go back to that thread and listen to all the folks that thought he was getting offered way too little money and he should hold out because he held all the negotiating cards. Austin Ekeler should send him an Xmas card every year, without the holdout Ekeler may have never got the opportunity to show he was a better player than the starter.
"Up to" lol.
zamboni
Footballguy
This sheds more light on the trend that RBs are not going to be paid a lot anytime soon, with perhaps a few exceptions. Maybe it will eventually change, but NFL GMs seem to have finally caught up to the notion that it's largely a replaceable position and guys get hurt all the time. Why give a big multi-year deal for that?
zamboni
Footballguy
I also disagree with the analysis blurb above that Gordon signing is automatically a crushing blow to Javonte. Yes, it's going to hurt his stock because Gordon is a good player and will likely be used quite a bit , but we have no idea how Hackett will use his RBs just because he used a committee in GB. If Javonte blows Gordon out of the water - which is possible - he could get a stranglehold on the job. And I have no dog in this fight, not owning either guy.
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
And if you'd rather your car kept some tread on its tires, Gordon is actually a great compliment to him.
And Jevonte likely ends up with less chance of injury on top of it. I mean, they don't want to McAffrey the guy.
And Jevonte likely ends up with less chance of injury on top of it. I mean, they don't want to McAffrey the guy.
Boston
Footballguy
Agree with this...you are just not gonna see many more Derrick Henry's going forward...most big time RBs are going to have another quality RB (or two) in the backfield with them...my guess is Williams seizes a bigger slice of the pie but I think people just need to realize this is how it is going to be and adjust expectations accordingly...and as you said, as far as longevity is concerned it is not a bad thing.
Blick
Footballguy
There was no way Denver was going into the season without a capable backup. I've always felt it was baked into Javonte's value. I don't see this as a hit to his value.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
A timeshare was baked into his value as the 1.05 pick in dynasty startup drafts?
He's still a great option, but a high probability of being the unquestioned feature back in that offense was absolutely a major part of his value way up there as a top 5 overall dynasty player.
Tau837
Footballguy
Went back to reread the Gordon holdout posts, and couldn't resist quoting these, since they aged so poorly. (It happens to the best of us!)
Harry Frogfish
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Weebs210
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I didn’t see his price as having a timeshare baked in. 1.05 in rookie startups is the price a bell-cow back commands.
Yes, they were always going to have a capable backup. But this is a 50-50 or 60-40 situation, making his 1.05 price an overpay, barring injury or a sudden propensity to be not good at football to befall Gordon.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I can’t speak to those people that took him at 1.05 in start ups but I always thought Gordon was coming back, to the point I traded for Gordon early in the off-season as a handcuff well before he re-signed.
I have him as a top 6-7 dynasty player and have always expected him to be in the 60-65% snap share range.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, I also felt it was inevitable. They were a great combo, and there was absolutely no Gordon news when FA hit. The silence spoke volumes.
Blick
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I thought he would have been a great fit for a team like TEN as a pure backup that "could make UP TO $5mil lol". When I read that it sounds like he could make DOWN TO the vet minimum. If Henry goes down the Titans showed last season they can get by with a RB that can just absorb carry after carry after carry so they simply need guys that can still run the offense with and Gordon seems like a good fit in that regard.Hot Sauce Guy said:
Another landing spot I thought made a lot of sense is NYJ. They are MILES away from being significant and by the time they are it will be time to jettison the RB they just traded up for in the 2nd round. You can't convince me that 4 years of Hall at RB is worth more than either an edge(Ojabo/Mafe) or CB(Booth/Gordon) for a second contract AND whoever you take with #146. If you still want a RB there were still both Allgeier/Ford, although I'll admit since the Jets won't be competing for anything for at least a year I probably would have taken the injury discount on Damone Clark(LB) who likely gets a second contract as well based on talent.
I just think drafting a RB early is a bad idea, trading up to draft a RB is a dumpster fire unless you are on the brink of a SB and that RB could be the last piece. That is just not where the Jets are imo. Even if you make the mistake of taking a RB early.... are you sure that Kenneth Walker is so much worse that you can afford to lose a pick to "upgrade" to Hall?
Pay Gordon "UP TO" $5mil for a season seems like the wiser choice.
rockaction
Footballguy
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Honest question: How many wins do you think the NYJ will have in 2022 assuming Hall is their leading rusher?
