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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread***


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4 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Bill clinton lied under oath.  He was impeached too.  In my opinion he still goes down as a good president.  

Trump was acquitted.  That's just as viable as being impeached. 

As with Clinton,  this means little 

It followed Clinton so long it helped cost his wife the Presidency. Because no one trusts them. 

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Just now, Henry Ford said:

It followed Clinton so long it helped cost his wife the Presidency. Because no one trusts them. 

Rightttttt.  Oh come on THATS why you think she lost?

What about winning the democratic nomination.  Are you saying democrats dont care about impeachment?  Make up your mind.  Does being impeached matter or not?

 

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1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Rightttttt.  Oh come on THATS why you think she lost?

What about winning the democratic nomination.  Are you saying democrats dont care about impeachment?  Make up your mind.  Does being impeached matter or not?

 

He said it sowed the seeds of distrust. It definitely haunted, and continues to haunt the Clintons. She was a massively flawed candidate, and one of her biggest flaws was that people didn't trust her. So yeah, Henry is spot on.

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26 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Rightttttt.  Oh come on THATS why you think she lost?

What about winning the democratic nomination.  Are you saying democrats dont care about impeachment?  Make up your mind.  Does being impeached matter or not?

 

Sorry, I assumed we were on the same page with the meaning of the term “helped.”

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22 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

He said it sowed the seeds of distrust. It definitely haunted, and continues to haunt the Clintons. She was a massively flawed candidate, and one of her biggest flaws was that people didn't trust her. So yeah, Henry is spot on.

I mean, it’s not like Trump invited a bunch of women her husband slept with to a debate.  Right?

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Just now, Sam Quentin said:

Oj - two people murdered

trump - perfect phone call where no quid pro quo was offered nor accepted nor even known about by the other party

Because the whistleblower account, the supporting testimony, and the articles of impeachment were about more than just one phone call.

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2 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

The facts presented to the house disagree...as apparently does Bolton if he was allowed to testify.

It is over.  Time to move on get on with running the country again.  Get some bills passed and let the candidates fight it out. Not surprised as most people said there was not enough evidence.  We need to look forward now not back. As a young guy I am tired of this. I want our congress to go to work on other things now.

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2 minutes ago, Summer Wheat said:

It is over.  Time to move on get on with running the country again.  Get some bills passed and let the candidates fight it out. Not surprised as most people said there was not enough evidence.  We need to look forward now not back. As a young guy I am tired of this. I want our congress to go to work on other things now.

The Democrats have been doing that all along.  McConnell, not so much.

Hell even several who voted to acquit said there was enough evidence. 

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4 minutes ago, Summer Wheat said:

It is over.  Time to move on get on with running the country again.  Get some bills passed and let the candidates fight it out. Not surprised as most people said there was not enough evidence.  We need to look forward now not back. As a young guy I am tired of this. I want our congress to go to work on other things now.

Um are you referring to the 250 bills passed by Congress with bipartisan support that McConnell has been sitting on and refusing to bring to a vote on the floor of the Senate? Those bills?

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Just now, Sam Quentin said:

Now that Trump has been soundly acquitted, when do we go after Schiff for abusing his office to dig up dirt on the President in order to interfere in the 2020 election?

He dug up dirt?  That doesn’t seem to have a factual basis.  Is there something you can cote to back this up?

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41 minutes ago, Sam Quentin said:

Good point.....he tried to dig up dirt , but there wasn’t any....

Again...you are going to need to cite something here to show this claim.  Thus far you have come up empty.

He didn't come up with the claim that led to articles of impeachment.

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Just now, Weebs210 said:

Russian collusion - exonerated by Mueller

Impeachment/removal trial - acquitted

 

Looks like winning to me

Wasn’t actually exonerated by Mueller...as has been stated and shown many times by Mueller's actual words

Impeached...several that voted for acquittal even agreed he did what was charged.  Also shown as not a false narrative.

So...0-2 claiming things were a false narrative.

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55 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

Wasn’t actually exonerated by Mueller...as has been stated and shown many times by Mueller's actual words

Impeached...several that voted for acquittal even agreed he did what was charged.  Also shown as not a false narrative.

So...0-2 claiming things were a false narrative.

Yes 0-2. Even though he's still your president and nothing came of either. You math is interesting.

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13 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

Yes 0-2. Even though he's still your president and nothing came of either. You math is interesting.

So the goalposts are moving?  You made a claim that they were falsely narratives.  As proof you falsely claimed that Mueller exonerated Trump in Russia...and that acquittal means the Ukraine thing was a false narrative.

 

Now...him still being president means ot was false?  That isn't a very logical assertion.

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6 hours ago, sho nuff said:

Wasn’t actually exonerated by Mueller...as has been stated and shown many times by Mueller's actual words

Impeached...several that voted for acquittal even agreed he did what was charged.  Also shown as not a false narrative.

So...0-2 claiming things were a false narrative.

Oh there’s some false narrative there....

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10 hours ago, Sam Quentin said:

Now that Trump has been soundly acquitted, when do we go after Schiff for abusing his office to dig up dirt on the President in order to interfere in the 2020 election?

That's the irony of ironies here isn't it?  The precedent has been set that this is no longer a big deal.  Using your office to dig up dirt on people is ok.  :shrug: 

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Of course Schiff and the Democrats never told anybody this a the time.

@AlexNBCNews

Schiff on @MSNBC: I can tell you that after the Senate voted not to hear witnesses...we did approach John Bolton’s counsel, asked if Mr. Bolton would be willing to submit an affidavit under oath, describing what he observed in terms of the Prez’s Ukraine misconduct & he refused

https://twitter.com/alexnbcnews/status/1225255050282520576?s=21

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1 hour ago, Weebs210 said:

No, the precedent has been set that you can go after any politician for anything.

Eh this whole ‘the House did enough evidence’ argument proves too muck. 19 witnesses, Bolton’s book, a 40 page whistleblower report that went through an IG, CIA counsel, DOJ counsel, WH counsel, Trump public statements, 3 indictments in SDNY.... that’s not a low bar.

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11 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

Now that this is over it sort of takes the steam out of this thread.

This thread always had one ending, but it was never solely about the end result.  The R’s were never removing Trump from office and the D’s were always voting him off. 
 

What remains is how history judges this impeachment and the people in this thread were likely more interested in the facts than which way the partisan senators voted. 

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50 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh this whole ‘the House did enough evidence’ argument proves too muck. 19 witnesses, Bolton’s book, a 40 page whistleblower report that went through an IG, CIA counsel, DOJ counsel, WH counsel, Trump public statements, 3 indictments in SDNY.... that’s not a low bar.

Come on man... 

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45 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

Apparently none for Trump.

I am concerned there will consequences for the country regarding unchecked power of the president.  

Meh, it's just par for the course.  Clinton was acquitted for perjury and obstruction of justice and he's still invited to all the ex president parties.  We survived.

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20 hours ago, Bozeman Bruiser said:

After an embarrassing Iowa Caucus that called into question the integrity of their party, and also revealed Biden to not be an actual contender for president (which negates the entire premise of the impeachment hoax), and after a SOTU in which the Democrats showed their ### booing American prosperity and American heroes (many of them women and minorities), and going into the final vote to acquit Trump from their latest deranged attempt to overthrow the president.....

Mitt ####### Romney is their hero.

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Doesn't it actually prove the effectiveness of Trump's abuse of power? Even without getting the "investigation" he wanted, he has managed to damage Biden's reputation and electibility.

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2 minutes ago, apalmer said:

Doesn't it actually prove the effectiveness of Trump's abuse of power? Even without getting the "investigation" he wanted, he has managed to damage Biden's reputation and electibility.

and there it is, a nice built in excuse for whatever happens to whomever, always going to be 'Trumps' fault.  I have a feeling we will be hearing this POV a lot in the coming months

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5 minutes ago, apalmer said:

Doesn't it actually prove the effectiveness of Trump's abuse of power? Even without getting the "investigation" he wanted, he has managed to damage Biden's reputation and electibility.

It’s basically the entire case the Republicans presented. “The President wasn’t interested in the Bidens, only in Ukrainian corruption, but while we are here we really need to investigate the Bidens”

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52 minutes ago, apalmer said:

Doesn't it actually prove the effectiveness of Trump's abuse of power? Even without getting the "investigation" he wanted, he has managed to damage Biden's reputation and electibility.

One of the funny ironies in all of this is just how unnecessary the Ukraine extortion was when Rudy, George Solomon, and Fox News were perfectly capable of amplifying the message themselves. 
 

But, you know, very stable genius. 

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