Stanford is not getting an invite to B1G over Oregon/UW. Fan support at Stanford is awful and so is tv viewership. Only chance Stanford gets in is their tie with Notre Dame.
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Jayded
Footballguy
Stanford would be in for academics and the Olympic sports in particular. Football is as you describe though for sure.
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Footballguy
Legislation could hold Washington and Oregon in the PAC 12
Even if B1G wants them, the legislatures can keep them from going. Washington legislature not currently in session. Would be just like these two states to rush legislators back to work to make a dumb rule that only hurts their universities.
Even if B1G wants them, the legislatures can keep them from going. Washington legislature not currently in session. Would be just like these two states to rush legislators back to work to make a dumb rule that only hurts their universities.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Plus Stanford >>>>>>> Oregon and Washington in academics. It would also a small +EV in terms of San Francisco market.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
That's why they'd get in. ND would have zero excuses to saying no. Their rivals UM, MSU, and Purdue would also then have Stanford and SC in the conference. Unless they're so hung up on their "rivalry" with Navy, there's literally ZERO reason to stay out. Plus, FOX
>>> NBC. Plus, they don't have any of their games on the Peacock Network that like 50 non-WWE people subscribe to.I'd like to think the Domers are halfways intelligent, but they did hire Gerry Faust as a HC.
Capella
Footballguy
Lot of people are tweeting stuff like this. The reality is the two Cali schools were rumored to come in and then accepted on the same day and nobody, at all, had any idea. It’ll be the same with the next move.
Capella
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
Never thought I'd see the day where P10 fans would be pimping their teams to get in B1G 
Notre Dame and Oregon at +150 to get invjte to B1G in 2022
Washingon +600
Kansas +1400
Cincy +1500
Stanford +2000
Washingon +600
Kansas +1400
Cincy +1500
Stanford +2000
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Bovada out here stealing people's money.
Kansas?!? The Bearcats?
I wonder what the B1G makes of Phil Knight. Not sure that his big footprint helps the Ducks here tbh.
Cannot remember where I read it but there was an excellent point. If USC and UCLA had no problem joining w/o any western running mates - so how hard would they really push to add them after the fact? B1G can take its sweet time for sure.
-QG
Sounds like they are waiting on an answer from Notre Dame, if Notre Dame says yes Oregon likely gets in with Notre Dame. Of course, Notre Dame may wait a year or two so they don't have to pay the large exit fee from ACC. They would more than make it up though through B1G revenue. Who knows. I agree that seeing Kansas and Cincy was strange.
Mookie Gizzy
Footballguy
Mel Tucker sighting in ATL at the Braves game tonight. He was on the phone when he walked by me. Either doing some recruiting or engaging in talks with the GT AD
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Uncle Phil coming calling hat in hand
Definitely think Oregon's value being overestimated in all this. They are in a tough spot.
-QG
Definitely think Oregon's value being overestimated in all this. They are in a tough spot.
-QG
Another poorly written article by CBS. Saying Oregon is below the branding and marketability as UCLA is laughable.
Oregon is a top 20 program and will be just fine here. I still think the B1G is the most likely landing spot eventually.
Most Valuable College Football Teams
Only Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State bring more revenue than Oregon from B1G. Wisconsin, Michigan State similiar.
Only Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State bring more revenue than Oregon from B1G. Wisconsin, Michigan State similiar.
SFBayDuck
Footballguy
Some reports that USC would actively lobby (or already has) against Oregon joining the B1G, as they see themselves as gaining a recruiting advantage in So Cal over the only other West Coast school that has regularly taken top guys from down there.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Former Liberty University senior class president Chelsea Andrews sued her alma mater over (I’m guessing) covering up her rape.
Guess who slides into her DMs? Hugh Freeze.
Guess who slides into her DMs? Hugh Freeze.
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QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Yeah at the least I don't think USC would be saying "hey ya gotta bring the Ducks with us" and that surely the way it went it down with full secrecy follows your point.
I don't think the B1G would let USC have a "veto" per se (very much about the group and all for one and one for all and all that). But USC and UCLA on their own probably move the $ enough to make the addition or Oregon (and the logical companions of Washington or Stanford) not even a wash on the average $. (I excluded ND as an Oregon 'partner' largely bc Stanford might be the school ND would require - and any pair with ND would move the needle enough regardless of who it is).
Right now it is a game of chicken between the Big XII and the PAC. It is amazing to think how much things have turned since 12 years ago when they nearly became the PAC 16
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The Athletic's story from last week about the "Wakeyleaks" story is pretty good. I had a dim memory of the story - agree that it was kind of oddly ignored and probably should have resulted in many coaches being banned from the sport.
Inside ‘WakeyLeaks,’ the scandal that should have rocked college football
Inside ‘WakeyLeaks,’ the scandal that should have rocked college football
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Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Oregon and Washington to the SEC is my call.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Big XII doesn't want to merge with PAC 12
So they had 3 rounds of zoom calls to discuss various plans - one of which is a full merger and the Big XII ultimately said thanks but not thanks. Part of me wonders if the Big XII really was just poking and prodding to try to get some dissension going for a potential cherry picking of the schools they would really want. Whether they can pull that off or not is an open question. If the 4 corners do make the move it really puts UO and UW in a rough spot given that the B1G and SEC seem to be in no hurry to make a move and the ACC has its hands tied as they wouldn't want to reopen that lengthy GOR.
If those 4 go to the Big XII does that change the state of California's posture on UCLA? Gotta think that ultimately they can't let UCLA leave those dollars on the table
-QG
So they had 3 rounds of zoom calls to discuss various plans - one of which is a full merger and the Big XII ultimately said thanks but not thanks. Part of me wonders if the Big XII really was just poking and prodding to try to get some dissension going for a potential cherry picking of the schools they would really want. Whether they can pull that off or not is an open question. If the 4 corners do make the move it really puts UO and UW in a rough spot given that the B1G and SEC seem to be in no hurry to make a move and the ACC has its hands tied as they wouldn't want to reopen that lengthy GOR.
If those 4 go to the Big XII does that change the state of California's posture on UCLA? Gotta think that ultimately they can't let UCLA leave those dollars on the table
-QG
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
The Big XII is for sure the less attractive option for UW and Oregon - even the Big XII knows this but this is peak leverage time for l them to pull those schools in (by adding 4 corners). A Pac 6 with no good options puts the 2 northwest schools in a lurch as the only available options for them may be independence or reluctantly getting pull in to the Big XII.
Those two may want the B1G but if it doesn't grow the pie enough for their liking (on a per school basis remember) the B1G has no obligation to save them. For the 14 schools in the east an average of 2 trips to Southern California every 3 years has appeal. Cut that back to 1 out of 2 years with the other trip being to Oregon/Seattle you have more travel with less bang for the buck.
It's nothing against those 2 schools - they just have been put in a tough spot by the order of events.
Side note - in the unlikely event UCLA gets blocked I wouldn't automatically put UO in that vacated spot. Might be cleaner to pull the private school (Stanford) without worrying about state govs worried about a baby brother school. It also replaces one ND rival with another
UO and UW may deserve a better fate but then again so did UConn when the Big East died.
-QG
Those two may want the B1G but if it doesn't grow the pie enough for their liking (on a per school basis remember) the B1G has no obligation to save them. For the 14 schools in the east an average of 2 trips to Southern California every 3 years has appeal. Cut that back to 1 out of 2 years with the other trip being to Oregon/Seattle you have more travel with less bang for the buck.
It's nothing against those 2 schools - they just have been put in a tough spot by the order of events.
Side note - in the unlikely event UCLA gets blocked I wouldn't automatically put UO in that vacated spot. Might be cleaner to pull the private school (Stanford) without worrying about state govs worried about a baby brother school. It also replaces one ND rival with another
UO and UW may deserve a better fate but then again so did UConn when the Big East died.
-QG
Capella
Footballguy
Big Ten did this for an increase in LA tv rights for the Big Ten network, which will pull across all of California most likely because those are the two big brands. They don’t care about Stanford or Oregon at all.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Capella said:
Agree (and for those w/o a notebook handy I am a B1G alum) just conjecturing what the B1G would do if somehow the state of California were to scuttle UCLA moving to the B1G. Hard pressed to think the B1G would stay with 15 teams in that event given they want a 9-game conference schedule. That is the one way I can see Stanford getting the nod. (The one other unlikely path for Stanford would be if ND joined the big and indicated that Stanford was their preferred partner).
Craziest scenario would be the 4 corner schools depart for the Big XII while UCLA gets gets prevented from switching lol. That has like a 0.02% chance of happening but something for chaos fans to root for.
The next shoe to drop oddly enough could be San Diego State. They are seen as the most logical Southern California addition to the PAC but if the Big XII feels frisky to they add the Aztecs to try to outflank the PAC and keep up pressure on them?
-QG
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Notre Dame wants $75 million to stay independent.
Additionally, Dodd reports that if NBC were to bow to Notre Dame’s wishes, it would need to acquire the rights to another conference, with both the Big Ten and Big 12 as options, to pair with Notre Dame games.
Domers think they’re on the B1G or SEC level?
This ain’t 1972, Knute.
Additionally, Dodd reports that if NBC were to bow to Notre Dame’s wishes, it would need to acquire the rights to another conference, with both the Big Ten and Big 12 as options, to pair with Notre Dame games.
Domers think they’re on the B1G or SEC level?
This ain’t 1972, Knute. 
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Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
ND will get 75M a year and probably even more. Easily.Notre Dame wants $75 million to stay independent.
Additionally, Dodd reports that if NBC were to bow to Notre Dame’s wishes, it would need to acquire the rights to another conference, with both the Big Ten and Big 12 as options, to pair with Notre Dame games.
Domers think they’re on the B1G or SEC level?
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
