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You literally posted that I'm trying to poison the world. I haven't been intolerant of your view. You're welcome to say whatever you'd like. I posted an article you refused to read and you insulted me for a page and a half. You're intolerant of my viewpoint of inclusion of scientific evidence even being posted on a message board. That's fine, but it's pretty textbook "bigot."
Nobody's trying to silence you. Get down off the cross, we can put the wood to work for something useful.
He is Eminence. That should help you understand. Can we stop acting like his opinion is anything close to intellectually honest? He has posted horrid things here over the years and isn't growing more educated--because he doesn't read the material he comments on.
I understand, wasn't trying to ramp the discussion up to an unintended intensity. But people who say the things Eminence has said over the years don't respect pronouns or anything like that--and it's not an honest mistake. He thinks he's doing something heroic in reclaiming a trans person's "real" gender by only acknowledging it, in his mind. It's a well-documented tactic in these types of discussions.
I'm not a terrible person. The world has differing views, that's called America. I didn't know that we are only allowed to discuss one side of the issue.
I surmise we get along here just fine, too. I don't dislike anyone here besides Henry Ford who says that I'm not worth discussing things with.
I really want to come back to this. It’s frhday though and I’m drinking with my wife so I may never, but there’s things I want to address here.
I said you're not worth it for him to discuss this topic with. If you're going to be passive aggressive, at least be accurate.
It’s slightly more complicated than that because you are talking some real #### about me and more importantly my family.
Let's all have a drink with our wives, girlfriends (boyfriends, nothing wrong with that).
I wonder if the two thoughts of yours that I bolded are linked? Hmmm.
I'm not talking crap about your family. If it was my kid, I would handle it differently.
Yep, it's my fault. I've never met a transgender person and if I do, I would go out of my way to ignore them because I know the interaction wouldn't be pleasant.
Typical strategy of the left.
I've heard if you rapid-fire insult someone for a page and a half on a message board and then falsely claim he's trying to silence you, you win the argument.
I've heard if you ignore dissenting views, they simply go away!
Agreed. Again, I understand this is a touchy subject which is why nobody should get upset when someone disagrees.
I haven't seen anyone say "if you disagree you are a bigot."
Oh, I'm sure it sucks. But to blame society for not accepting the person isn't fair. There is something abnormal with their brain to begin with.
Or there is something abnormal with their body. Or that isn't it at all. For someone who isn't interested in the science, you sure have a lot of confidence in your understanding of the science. Do you feel this way about gay people? Bisexual? I bring that up because those are groups who until not too long ago most suffered the same comments you make here, and many still do.
They don't? Why not? According to who?
It's insane how casually you drop stuff like this. It's one sentence but it's way too much to even address, realistically. This is the door even I'm too weary to open right now, despite adressing everything else.
Do you generally feel pressured by society to date women you don't find yourself attracted to or interested in, with consequences otherwise?
I'm glad this was your response. I once had a guy on here call me racist because I'm only interested in white women.
How many random suicides in the past do you think are trans people whose deaths hid among the statistics because coming out wasn't really an option and they couldn't cope? I bet there's plenty. Trans kids today have much better support systems and a much more realistic path to happiness, fulfillment, and a healthy self-esteem. That doesn't mean it's easy or anywhere near ideal, obviously. Just better.
Your dissenting opinion will never get you banned unless the opinion itself is pretty horrifying. The way you treat people while you express it might.
There are people who believe political party affiliation is a mental disorder, too. Doesn't mean they're right.
Sorry, "some people believe religion is a mental disorder, too. Doesn't mean they're right."
It’s possible. The older I get the less I care.
You really aren't helping the situation with this and I wish it could be left out of the conversation.
I think you should re-examine just about every stance in this post. It's so cruel to directly compare going on a date with someone and interacting with someone. Also, you clearly are saying someone's happiness is less important to you than you being comfortable with them being "normal".
No worries if you don't date people with large foreheads, but if you didn't want to interact with them than I would say you were a total #######.
Makes a much better case for you then the first article, that actually was the opposite of your view,
We are, but you act like a know-it-all while and seem to refuse to read something that might contradict your opinion. You seem to have your mind totally made up despite having never interacted with people of the community. It's America so you can do that, but it's a trash approach.
Agreed.
It gets a lot deeper than that. It wasn't so easy for us to explain all this to a 5 year old who was dead certain she got a penis by mistake. Despite your repeated reference to the TV, she wasn't watching much TV. The family had no cable, 1 TV that the kids were barely allowed to use. She had super hardcore parents that didn't allow much TV . Maybe the organic veggies did it? Plus she was born an identical twin so obviously here whole life she was raised in the most direct possible contact with a male.
I am not saying you should be banned. I am saying you should recognize you are not an expert on the issue. Not by a mile. So stop acting so high and mighty. Lose the dramatics. Be nice. Realize this is a sensitive topic to people. This has absolutely nothing to do with our Freedom of Speech, GTFO. If the government tries to penalize you for expressing this POV, send me an @ and I will defend you. Also, my niece's great grandmother is 90+ years old, she was raised in SW Detroit. Never missed a Sunday of Church in her life. Worked at Willow Run- the Ypsilanti, Michigan factory that built the B-24 Bombers that won World War 2. She is old school, not you. And she says the Lord never mistakes. That includes our bodies and our minds. She has accepted her niece unwaveringly. It'a not old school to be crass. It's just crass.
It's not all guard dogs and lightning strike either. Common sense is what society tells you is "right." Also don't allow yourself to be a bully.
