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✈ 2015 NEW YORK JETS Thread (1 Viewer)

DC seems to be locked up...

Kacy Rodgers, Miami DL coach

Rodgers has been the Dolphins' line coach since 2008, when he was hired by Tony Sparano. Bowles, too, was a member of that staff. Rodgers was retained by Sparano's successor, Joe Philbin.

Rodgers and Bowles first worked together with the Dallas Cowboys (2005-2007), when Bill Parcells had them on his staff.

Rodgers, 45, is a well-respected line coach. Since 2008, the Dolphins have produced 287 sacks, the third-highest total in the league. He has had a lot of talent over the years in Miami, none better than Cameron Wake, who went from an unheralded player to a Pro Bowler.

 
@JasonLaCanfora: As the Jets transform their front office, I continue to hear there is a strong chance ex-Jags GM Gene Smith has a considerable role w/them.

WHY THE #### WOULD THEY DO THIS??? Just terrible.

 
@JasonLaCanfora: As the Jets transform their front office, I continue to hear there is a strong chance ex-Jags GM Gene Smith has a considerable role w/them.

WHY THE #### WOULD THEY DO THIS??? Just terrible.
This.....Can't be right, can it?
I don't see a problem at this time. Maybe the Jets are going to change up the scouting department after the draft and Smith will have a personnel role of some sort.

 
@JasonLaCanfora: As the Jets transform their front office, I continue to hear there is a strong chance ex-Jags GM Gene Smith has a considerable role w/them.

WHY THE #### WOULD THEY DO THIS??? Just terrible.
This.....Can't be right, can it?
I don't see a problem at this time. Maybe the Jets are going to change up the scouting department after the draft and Smith will have a personnel role of some sort.
it doesn't appear that Mike Mac has a lot of experience on the cap-side of it.. the idea might be that this would help in that.

 
@JasonLaCanfora: As the Jets transform their front office, I continue to hear there is a strong chance ex-Jags GM Gene Smith has a considerable role w/them.

WHY THE #### WOULD THEY DO THIS??? Just terrible.
This.....Can't be right, can it?
I don't see a problem at this time. Maybe the Jets are going to change up the scouting department after the draft and Smith will have a personnel role of some sort.
it doesn't appear that Mike Mac has a lot of experience on the cap-side of it.. the idea might be that this would help in that.
Good grief.

I'd literally hire Dustin "Screech" Diamond before hiring Smith.

 
Lots of press on possibly Spiller coming to the JEts via FA.....I am on board if the price is right...he had his best seasons for Chan Gailey...but the injuries and non production scare me....have a feling it would be CJ 2.0. Unless its a real sweet deal fort he JEts id rather grab another RB in the draft....thoughts?

 
Lots of press on possibly Spiller coming to the JEts via FA.....I am on board if the price is right...he had his best seasons for Chan Gailey...but the injuries and non production scare me....have a feling it would be CJ 2.0. Unless its a real sweet deal fort he JEts id rather grab another RB in the draft....thoughts?
He's younger than Johnson was and has far less wear and tear on him. If the price was right I'd be all for it. I like Ivory but he can't carry the load all on his own. Spiller is a weapon when healthy and this team will still need playmakers on offense. Gailey knowing how to use him is a big plus of course.

 
Lots of press on possibly Spiller coming to the JEts via FA.....I am on board if the price is right...he had his best seasons for Chan Gailey...but the injuries and non production scare me....have a feling it would be CJ 2.0. Unless its a real sweet deal fort he JEts id rather grab another RB in the draft....thoughts?
I fine with Ivory and Powell. Sign one of the big name WR FAs and then focus on FA defense. Mac's first move should be signing Wilkerson long term. Build up the OL through the draft.

 
Lots of press on possibly Spiller coming to the JEts via FA.....I am on board if the price is right...he had his best seasons for Chan Gailey...but the injuries and non production scare me....have a feling it would be CJ 2.0. Unless its a real sweet deal fort he JEts id rather grab another RB in the draft....thoughts?
I fine with Ivory and Powell. Sign one of the big name WR FAs and then focus on FA defense. Mac's first move should be signing Wilkerson long term. Build up the OL through the draft.
Powell is a FA - although he should come cheap.

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
My theory is they wait on drafting a QB. A GM's clock starts ticking once he drafts "his" QB. If I were a new GM, I take a year to accumulate talent everywhere else, then worry about QB next year. But who knows.

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
My theory is they wait on drafting a QB. A GM's clock starts ticking once he drafts "his" QB. If I were a new GM, I take a year to accumulate talent everywhere else, then worry about QB next year. But who knows.
Great point, although mm might be too hard to pass up if he's there....

 
Mike Caldwell will be the assistant head coach. He coached linebackers in Philadelphia from 2008-12 and Arizona from 2013-14. He also played in the NFL for 11 years.

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
My theory is they wait on drafting a QB. A GM's clock starts ticking once he drafts "his" QB. If I were a new GM, I take a year to accumulate talent everywhere else, then worry about QB next year. But who knows.
Yeah, I think that's the furthest thing from any GM's process..... You do you're homework and if you and your scouts think one of these guys is legit you jump at the chance....

Next year you have no idea where you draft and what the class looks like.....

Plus.... A big part of what killed Idzik had to do with the picks he didn't make - league is littered with 1st year wr's he passed on.... Pass on a QB who becomes the next great thing and that puts a ***** in your armor as much as trying to play it safe.....

I'm just excited to see this Draft Team work...

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
Also talk of Gailey working with Fitzpatrick again.... Either way, I would think a rookie QB would have to sit at least a little bit.

I'm sick of drafting less than Absolute Stud QB's and throwing them into the fire before their time....

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
Also talk of Gailey working with Fitzpatrick again.... Either way, I would think a rookie QB would have to sit at least a little bit.

I'm sick of drafting less than Absolute Stud QB's and throwing them into the fire before their time....
Fitzpatrick is the type of qb the Jets will have to get unless they get creative via a trade. Can Aaron Murray be acquired? Mike Glennon is also a possibility.

Super Bowl 49 will feature no premium wide receivers. Are we certain the Jets need to take one at 6? The Jets could trade down some and draft Trae Waynes or P.J. Williams.

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
Also talk of Gailey working with Fitzpatrick again.... Either way, I would think a rookie QB would have to sit at least a little bit.

I'm sick of drafting less than Absolute Stud QB's and throwing them into the fire before their time....
Fitzpatrick is the type of qb the Jets will have to get unless they get creative via a trade. Can Aaron Murray be acquired? Mike Glennon is also a possibility. Super Bowl 49 will feature no premium wide receivers. Are we certain the Jets need to take one at 6? The Jets could trade down some and draft Trae Waynes or P.J. Williams.
What about Sam Bradford if he refuses to rework his contract?
 
I wouldn't be against looking into Mike Glennon. I'm not sure why the Buccaneers aren't giving him more of a chance. I don't think he's the type of QB that should prevent them from taking a QB no. 1 overall if they think highly of Winston or Mariotta, but I think he has a solid skill set and performed well as a rookie. I think he could at least be a poor man's Joe Flacco if allowed to develop. I'm not calling him a long term answer, but a guy that would be worth looking at while still keeping an eye out for a franchise type QB.

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
Also talk of Gailey working with Fitzpatrick again.... Either way, I would think a rookie QB would have to sit at least a little bit.

I'm sick of drafting less than Absolute Stud QB's and throwing them into the fire before their time....
Fitzpatrick is the type of qb the Jets will have to get unless they get creative via a trade. Can Aaron Murray be acquired? Mike Glennon is also a possibility. Super Bowl 49 will feature no premium wide receivers. Are we certain the Jets need to take one at 6? The Jets could trade down some and draft Trae Waynes or P.J. Williams.
What about Sam Bradford if he refuses to rework his contract?
Yes. He would be worth a shot.

 
I wouldn't be against looking into Mike Glennon. I'm not sure why the Buccaneers aren't giving him more of a chance. I don't think he's the type of QB that should prevent them from taking a QB no. 1 overall if they think highly of Winston or Mariotta, but I think he has a solid skill set and performed well as a rookie. I think he could at least be a poor man's Joe Flacco if allowed to develop. I'm not calling him a long term answer, but a guy that would be worth looking at while still keeping an eye out for a franchise type QB.
Unless one of the premium QBs fall to #6...id be ok drafting a QB in the mid rds and trading a late pick for Glennon.

 
I hate to sound bitter but having to watch the Patriots in the Super Bowl again really sucks.
The Jets, starting with next year's one, could play in the next seven Super Bowls and I still would have seen the Patriots more often in Super Bowl action than the Jets.

 
I think I'd love to get a young innovative playcaller as the OC, so not completely unhappy that Chan Gailey isn't locked up

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
Also talk of Gailey working with Fitzpatrick again.... Either way, I would think a rookie QB would have to sit at least a little bit.

I'm sick of drafting less than Absolute Stud QB's and throwing them into the fire before their time....
Fitzpatrick is the type of qb the Jets will have to get unless they get creative via a trade. Can Aaron Murray be acquired? Mike Glennon is also a possibility. Super Bowl 49 will feature no premium wide receivers. Are we certain the Jets need to take one at 6? The Jets could trade down some and draft Trae Waynes or P.J. Williams.
What about Sam Bradford if he refuses to rework his contract?
I'd take a shot on Bradford assuming price is right.

Glennon is getting some praise and Fitz sounds like the seasoned stop gap type of player but maybe I'm just too impatient. I don't want a stop gap guy and don't believe Glennon can be a top QB.

If you don't have a top QB in this league your spinning your wheels.

Bradford at least has the pedigree and potential even if it was several injuries ago.

I just want a damn QB!

 
So with Amaro, Decker, Harvin Ivory and maybe a Spiller type, Chan Gailey has some weapons to work with.

Odds they roll w Geno or address the position in FA/Draft??
Also talk of Gailey working with Fitzpatrick again.... Either way, I would think a rookie QB would have to sit at least a little bit.

I'm sick of drafting less than Absolute Stud QB's and throwing them into the fire before their time....
Fitzpatrick is the type of qb the Jets will have to get unless they get creative via a trade. Can Aaron Murray be acquired? Mike Glennon is also a possibility. Super Bowl 49 will feature no premium wide receivers. Are we certain the Jets need to take one at 6? The Jets could trade down some and draft Trae Waynes or P.J. Williams.
This is a fair point on the wr. I like the thought of cooper at 6 but you're on the right track. Very few top teams have used an early pick on A WR

 
Jets named Kacy Rodgers their defensive coordinator.

If the Dolphins were smart, they would've ousted Kevin Coyle and made Rodgers their defensive coordinator. Instead, Rodgers departs to re-team with Todd Bowles. Both are Bill Parcells disciples. One of the top D-Line gurus in football, Rodgers coached up Olivier Vernon, Cam Wake, and Jared Odrick in Miami, while getting career-best years from Randy Starks and Paul Soliai.
 
great hire!

Jets hired Pepper Johnson as defensive line coach.
Johnson had been a candidate for the Giants' defensive coordinator position this offseason, but he lost out to Steve Spagnuolo. A long-time Patriots assistant, Johnson spent last season running the Bills' dominant defensive line.
 
Some around the league believe teams will be interested in trading for Bucs QB Mike Glennon.

Although Glennon was quietly effective as a rookie in 2013, the Lovie Smith regime never gave him much of a shot. Glennon started just five games in 2014, operating mostly as a backup to 35-year-old journeyman Josh McCown. Now the Bucs, likely to select a quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick, should be even more motivated to trade Glennon than they were last year. Perhaps a QB-desperate team like the Bills or Jets would be willing to part with a late-round pick. Glennon is under contract for just $687,188 in 2015.
I'm all for giving up a later pick to take a chance on Glennon. As I said earlier, I don't think he's a franchise type talent, but it's worth exploring if he can be a solid starter in this league. I think he can be.
 
Some around the league believe teams will be interested in trading for Bucs QB Mike Glennon.

Although Glennon was quietly effective as a rookie in 2013, the Lovie Smith regime never gave him much of a shot. Glennon started just five games in 2014, operating mostly as a backup to 35-year-old journeyman Josh McCown. Now the Bucs, likely to select a quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick, should be even more motivated to trade Glennon than they were last year. Perhaps a QB-desperate team like the Bills or Jets would be willing to part with a late-round pick. Glennon is under contract for just $687,188 in 2015.
I'm all for giving up a later pick to take a chance on Glennon. As I said earlier, I don't think he's a franchise type talent, but it's worth exploring if he can be a solid starter in this league. I think he can be.
IMO, no point in making a trade for Glennon. He couldn't secure the TB starting gig so why give up a pick? Geno has shown more so I'm willing to stick with him over a "what if."
 
Some around the league believe teams will be interested in trading for Bucs QB Mike Glennon.

Although Glennon was quietly effective as a rookie in 2013, the Lovie Smith regime never gave him much of a shot. Glennon started just five games in 2014, operating mostly as a backup to 35-year-old journeyman Josh McCown. Now the Bucs, likely to select a quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick, should be even more motivated to trade Glennon than they were last year. Perhaps a QB-desperate team like the Bills or Jets would be willing to part with a late-round pick. Glennon is under contract for just $687,188 in 2015.
I'm all for giving up a later pick to take a chance on Glennon. As I said earlier, I don't think he's a franchise type talent, but it's worth exploring if he can be a solid starter in this league. I think he can be.
IMO, no point in making a trade for Glennon. He couldn't secure the TB starting gig so why give up a pick? Geno has shown more so I'm willing to stick with him over a "what if."
Geno has shown more?

 
Some around the league believe teams will be interested in trading for Bucs QB Mike Glennon.

Although Glennon was quietly effective as a rookie in 2013, the Lovie Smith regime never gave him much of a shot. Glennon started just five games in 2014, operating mostly as a backup to 35-year-old journeyman Josh McCown. Now the Bucs, likely to select a quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick, should be even more motivated to trade Glennon than they were last year. Perhaps a QB-desperate team like the Bills or Jets would be willing to part with a late-round pick. Glennon is under contract for just $687,188 in 2015.
I'm all for giving up a later pick to take a chance on Glennon. As I said earlier, I don't think he's a franchise type talent, but it's worth exploring if he can be a solid starter in this league. I think he can be.
IMO, no point in making a trade for Glennon. He couldn't secure the TB starting gig so why give up a pick? Geno has shown more so I'm willing to stick with him over a "what if."
Geno has shown more?
Maybe saying he's shown more jumped the gun a bit but I don't see Glennon as a solution. I guess it all depends on what pick they would give up.

 
Some around the league believe teams will be interested in trading for Bucs QB Mike Glennon.

Although Glennon was quietly effective as a rookie in 2013, the Lovie Smith regime never gave him much of a shot. Glennon started just five games in 2014, operating mostly as a backup to 35-year-old journeyman Josh McCown. Now the Bucs, likely to select a quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick, should be even more motivated to trade Glennon than they were last year. Perhaps a QB-desperate team like the Bills or Jets would be willing to part with a late-round pick. Glennon is under contract for just $687,188 in 2015.
I'm all for giving up a later pick to take a chance on Glennon. As I said earlier, I don't think he's a franchise type talent, but it's worth exploring if he can be a solid starter in this league. I think he can be.
IMO, no point in making a trade for Glennon. He couldn't secure the TB starting gig so why give up a pick? Geno has shown more so I'm willing to stick with him over a "what if."
Geno has shown more?
Maybe saying he's shown more jumped the gun a bit but I don't see Glennon as a solution. I guess it all depends on what pick they would give up.
The thing is the Jets don't have and clear cut way to find a solution to their QB woes unless Mariota or Wilson fall to the sixth pick and that's not exactly a guaranteed solution either. Glennon completed 60% of his passes with a 19:9 TD:INT ratio as a rookie that didn't have the benefit of a training camp with starter reps. and wasn't surrounded by much talent that first season.

I don't think its a case where he couldn't secure the TB starting gig but rather where Lovie Smith thought he could bring in McCown and recreate the Bears offense that McCown was successful in. He outplayed McCown imo.

I think Glennon could be a Joe Flacco type QB with some experience - not sure he's a solution but he could be a solid option until they find a better one. I really don't think Geno has the mental makeup to be a success.

 
I like the idea of a new coaching staff focused on what players do well, I woudl sit tight with Geneo, sign only a solid verteran if they are out there like matt moore or bradford, and draft a rookie and then put in a gameplan that maximizes the ability of the player.

This looks like Bowles philosophy, so I don't mind another go round with geno if he has earned his spot over a vet, and over a drafted rookie and he puts a gameplan in place with what he does well (spread offense, one/two read offense etc..)

 
Free agent CB Antonio Cromartie said he's open to returning to the Jets.

The dots connect here. Cromartie played some of his best ball as a Jet from 2010-13, he was elite in new coach Todd Bowles while with the Cardinals in 2014 and the Jets' secondary desperately needs a talent infusion. Cromartie, 30, is our No. 4 corner available in free agency, only behind Bryon Maxwell, Brandon Flowers and Tramon Williams.
 
I always thought it was a mistake letting cro go. He was clearly injured in 2013 and was willing to come back for peanuts after the Jets cut him.

 
I always thought it was a mistake letting cro go. He was clearly injured in 2013 and was willing to come back for peanuts after the Jets cut him.
I'll be honest. I thought that because Cro relied so much on athleticism that he wouldn't age particularly well. But in my defense, I didn't have access to all of his medical records like the Jets did, who then still decided that he wasn't worth something like 2 million dollars. I think the Jets probably need to sign at least 2 corners, so I'd be happy if Cro is one of them.

 
Some around the league believe teams will be interested in trading for Bucs QB Mike Glennon.

Although Glennon was quietly effective as a rookie in 2013, the Lovie Smith regime never gave him much of a shot. Glennon started just five games in 2014, operating mostly as a backup to 35-year-old journeyman Josh McCown. Now the Bucs, likely to select a quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick, should be even more motivated to trade Glennon than they were last year. Perhaps a QB-desperate team like the Bills or Jets would be willing to part with a late-round pick. Glennon is under contract for just $687,188 in 2015.
I'm all for giving up a later pick to take a chance on Glennon. As I said earlier, I don't think he's a franchise type talent, but it's worth exploring if he can be a solid starter in this league. I think he can be.
IMO, no point in making a trade for Glennon. He couldn't secure the TB starting gig so why give up a pick? Geno has shown more so I'm willing to stick with him over a "what if."
Geno has shown more?
Maybe saying he's shown more jumped the gun a bit but I don't see Glennon as a solution. I guess it all depends on what pick they would give up.
The thing is the Jets don't have and clear cut way to find a solution to their QB woes unless Mariota or Wilson fall to the sixth pick and that's not exactly a guaranteed solution either. Glennon completed 60% of his passes with a 19:9 TD:INT ratio as a rookie that didn't have the benefit of a training camp with starter reps. and wasn't surrounded by much talent that first season.

I don't think its a case where he couldn't secure the TB starting gig but rather where Lovie Smith thought he could bring in McCown and recreate the Bears offense that McCown was successful in. He outplayed McCown imo.

I think Glennon could be a Joe Flacco type QB with some experience - not sure he's a solution but he could be a solid option until they find a better one. I really don't think Geno has the mental makeup to be a success.
Nail on the head there. Wondered why Glennon was so overlooked after his rookie year. By no means world beating play, but given the circumstances in TB that year, he did good enough to warrant a further look. Lovie coming in, I suppose in semi-win now mode chose to let him redevelop on the bench.

The Jets are in desperate need of a franchise QB and have been virtually since their inception. To me, this team needs to be constantly bringing in talent at that position until they find one. It frustrated me like hell last year that with all those draft picks, we didn't come away with a single qb project. Not saying he will develop as a pro, but had the Jets grabbed a Mettenberger-tier guy, at least we'd have that "hey, we still got this guy stashed away, there's always a chance he can develop" in addition to whatever else we bring in. Instead, we recycle the same projects - guys that are good enough to be on our roster, but not good enough to ever warrant enough attention from within to be given a legtimiate enough chance to develop as a starter.

Moving a mid round pick for a guy like Glennon who has 2 years of NFL coaching/development under his belt plus showed some ability to be able to play in this league as a rookie would be a plus move IMO.

 

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