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00's Mixtape Draft (2 Viewers)

valence and i were wondering: is it ok to take different "artists" that involve the same people? e.g. if 6 traveling wilburies songs were taken, is it still fair game to take a tom petty song or a roy orbison song?

 
I do have a theme in mind but Im not sure I will be able to fill the mix following the plan. I guess we will see how it goes. I thought about it on the way to work today. All music was blocked at my work in the great purge of 2010. I will have to take times from wikipedia for now

1.2 American Idiot- Green Day, 2:54

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My Mix

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=899ZYJGW1.2 American Idiot- Green Day, 2:54
24.25 Linkin Park and Jay Z- Numb/Encore 3:25

Autopilot Off- Make a Sound 3:44

50 cent- In da club 3:13

Kid Dynamite Pits and Poisoned Apples - 0:48

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1.03 Radiohead - Idioteque

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"Idioteque" is the eighth track from the British alternative rock band Radiohead's 2000 album Kid A. It was seen as a departure for the rock band, as the song is driven by electronic beats. The song has been played at nearly every concert since 2001.

The song is listed at #8 on Pitchfork's top 500 songs of the 2000's.

Background and recording

According to Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke, "Idioteque wasn't my idea at all; it was Jonny's. Jonny handed me this DAT that he'd gone into our studio for the afternoon... and, um, the DAT was like 50 minutes long, and I sat there and listened to this 50 minutes. And some of it was just (garbled speech), but then there was this section of about 40 seconds long in the middle of it that was absolute genius, and I just cut that up and that was it... [and then wrote the song around it]."

Sampling

"Idioteque" contains two credited samples of experimental 1970s computer music. The first is several seconds of Mild und Leise, a piece by Paul Lansky, forming the four chord progression repeated throughout the song. Mild und Leise is 18 minutes long and through composed. The portion sampled by Radiohead is only heard once in the original piece, very briefly. Also sampled is "Short Piece" by Arthur Kreiger, now a professor of music at Connecticut College. Both tracks were compiled on the 1976 LP First Recordings — Electronic Music Winners, which Radiohead instrumentalist Jonny Greenwood stumbled upon while the band was working on Kid A.

Paul Lansky approved Greenwood's sampling and has since written an essay on "Idioteque", found in the book The Music and Art of Radiohead. Radiohead members Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood often compose music on their laptops, even while on the road touring, making it possible to create an electronic song in several minutes. Lansky also noted that, while Radiohead's song may hinge on a sample from his work, the mild und leise chord progression they used was itself "sampled" by Lansky from a leitmotif of the Richard Wagner opera Tristan und Isolde. On the original album release, the song was credited as having been written by Radiohead with an additional credit for the samples used. On the group's later album I Might Be Wrong: Live Recordings, the songwriting credit is given to "Radiohead & Paul Lansky".

Structure

In his essay "My Radiohead Adventure" in The Music and Art of Radiohead, Paul Lansky includes the following musical example, showing that the chord progression consists of four different spacings of an E flat major seventh chord, with B flat and E flat in the right hand and G and D in the left, then D and G in the right and E flat and B flat in the left. The next chords are inversions of the first two, with E flat and B flat in the right, then G and D. Finally, this chord progression also includes two high B flat harmonics on the 2nd and 4th chords. The song also consists of a polyrhythm, meaning the drums switch on and off from 6/4, where the vocals and other instruments are in 4/4.

Music video

The official video features Radiohead playing the song inside a studio. However, this version differs from the album version. The video for "Idioteque" would mark the last time the entire band would be featured in a music video until the 2007 video for Jigsaw Falling Into Place. Though there was a music video, no official single was released.

Animated "blips" or videos created to promote Kid A often showed polar bears or a Grim Reaper figure floating on icebergs. There is also a promotional video called Blinking Bear Version.

Lyrics and imagery

Yorke does not directly explain his lyrics, but "Idioteque" has been described by others as an "apocalyptic" song, with possible references to natural disaster, war and technological breakdown. Many fans interpret "Idioteque" as having something to do with climate change, an issue on which Yorke is outspoken and which he has admitted inspired subsequent songs, such as 2003's "Sail to the Moon" and those on his 2006 solo album The Eraser.

Several of the "Idioteque" lyrics (as well as those of certain other songs from the period) are audibly different in live performance. The "Idioteque" lyrics, like others on Kid A, were created from cutting up phrases and drawing them from a hat.

The song opens with the lines: "who's in a bunker, who's in a bunker, women and children first..." Yorke has not explained the reference, but has said other songs, such as 2003's "I Will" and "Sit Down. Stand Up." were about civilians killed in military conflict and genocide ("I Will" had originally been written before Kid A. Its lyrics also reference a "bunker," likely based on an incident in which Iraqi civilians including women and children were killed by air raids on the underground Al Amiriyah shelter in the 1991 Gulf War).

Near the end of the song, a line that sounds like "the first of the children" is repeatedly sung, possibly a reference to the album's title Kid A (this line is actually a sample of Yorke's vocal from earlier in the song, played halfway through the line "women and children first, and the children", making the line "the first, and the children"). However, when Yorke sings the song live, it varies between "the(re's) fathers and the children," "this one is to the children" and "this one is for the children."

The lyrics are paralleled in the visual artwork for the album Kid A by Stanley Donwood and Thom Yorke, under the pen name "Tchock". Donwood's paintings depict a wasteland covered by sheets of ice and snow, with fires in distant forests and genetically modified bears and other mysterious shapes taking control of human civilization.

The cover of the band’s 2000 album Kid A, Donwood says, was inspired by a Guardian front page photograph he saw during the Kosovo war. "It was of a square metre of snow and it was full of the detritus of war, all military stuff and ###### stains. I was upset by it in a way war had never upset me before. It felt like it was happening in my street."

The graphic novel Brought to Light by Alan Moore and Bill Sienkiewicz, has been acknowledged by Kid A cover designer Donwood as the source of the blood-filled swimming pool on the "Kid A" cover.

Many official Radiohead shirts sold during their 2001 tour featured a melting iceberg with the lyrics "This is really happening", taken from the lyrics of "Idioteque" written underneath.
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Can I suggest that no one be skipped for their 1st pick?

Either they get shuffled down the board or we wait. Most 1st round picks will be the key to people's drafts

 
Steve Tasker said:
Sorry if this has been addressed, but I haven't read 3/4 of the thread. Does the song qualify as a choice if the original version was recorded prior to 2000, but the cover/live version/etc. was recorded during the 2000s?
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My thought here is a cover by a new band should be eligible for the 00s draft and is essentially a new song but an artist playing a live version of a song they released 30 years ago isn't eligible.In other words, you can take Nickelback's version of "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting" but you can't take Elton John singing it live.This seem fair?
 
Abrantes said:
tyler_cracker said:
valence and i were wondering: is it ok to take different "artists" that involve the same people? e.g. if 6 traveling wilburies songs were taken, is it still fair game to take a tom petty song or a roy orbison song?
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I believe so.
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Yeah just the main person the song is credited to. So many people appear on each others work these days, if you want to draft exclusively songs by artists "featuring T-Pain", that's fine.
 
Facecow is out by the way, he PM'd me this morning, so everyone from 18 down is bumped up a spot, unless anyone watching wants to jump in Facecow's spot.

 
Northern Voice said:
Steve Tasker said:
Sorry if this has been addressed, but I haven't read 3/4 of the thread. Does the song qualify as a choice if the original version was recorded prior to 2000, but the cover/live version/etc. was recorded during the 2000s?
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My thought here is a cover by a new band should be eligible for the 00s draft and is essentially a new song but an artist playing a live version of a song they released 30 years ago isn't eligible.In other words, you can take Nickelback's version of "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting" but you can't take Elton John singing it live.This seem fair?
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Easy with the spotlighting, NV.
 
AcerFC said:
I do have a theme in mind but Im not sure I will be able to fill the mix following the plan. I guess we will see how it goes. I thought about it on the way to work today. All music was blocked at my work in the great purge of 2010. I will have to take times from wikipedia for now

1.2 American Idiot- Green Day, 2:54

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This was the only song I had on my list.I'm screwed.

 
Uncle Humuna said:
AcerFC said:
I do have a theme in mind but Im not sure I will be able to fill the mix following the plan. I guess we will see how it goes. I thought about it on the way to work today. All music was blocked at my work in the great purge of 2010. I will have to take times from wikipedia for now

1.2 American Idiot- Green Day, 2:54

Time Elapsed 2:54

Time Left 97:06
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This was the only song I had on my list.I'm screwed.
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Cant tell if you are messing with me or not, but I like it and it fits my theme (well so far)
 
valence said:
KarmaPolice said:
1.01 : RADIOHEAD -- Morning Bell (4:35)

We'll see - might have been able to get the band/song later at my original spot....
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I'm guessing Kid A version and not Amnesiac version? Also, I'm going to go out and a limb and say that you couldn't have gotten it at 24.
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Correct. Not a fan of the Amnesiac version at all.
 
AcerFC said:
Uncle Humuna said:
AcerFC said:
I do have a theme in mind but Im not sure I will be able to fill the mix following the plan. I guess we will see how it goes. I thought about it on the way to work today. All music was blocked at my work in the great purge of 2010. I will have to take times from wikipedia for now

1.2 American Idiot- Green Day, 2:54

Time Elapsed 2:54

Time Left 97:06
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This was the only song I had on my list.I'm screwed.
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Cant tell if you are messing with me or not, but I like it and it fits my theme (well so far)
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No, no.Great song.

My favorite from the decade.

The statement was more of a comment on my knowledge of Oughts music.

Seriously, my off-the-top-of-my-head list is ridiculously short.

 
drpill said:
1.03 Radiohead - Idioteque

Time elapsed: 5:09

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"Idioteque" is the eighth track from the British alternative rock band Radiohead's 2000 album Kid A. It was seen as a departure for the rock band, as the song is driven by electronic beats. The song has been played at nearly every concert since 2001.

The song is listed at #8 on Pitchfork's top 500 songs of the 2000's.

Background and recording

According to Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke, "Idioteque wasn't my idea at all; it was Jonny's. Jonny handed me this DAT that he'd gone into our studio for the afternoon... and, um, the DAT was like 50 minutes long, and I sat there and listened to this 50 minutes. And some of it was just (garbled speech), but then there was this section of about 40 seconds long in the middle of it that was absolute genius, and I just cut that up and that was it... [and then wrote the song around it]."

Sampling

"Idioteque" contains two credited samples of experimental 1970s computer music. The first is several seconds of Mild und Leise, a piece by Paul Lansky, forming the four chord progression repeated throughout the song. Mild und Leise is 18 minutes long and through composed. The portion sampled by Radiohead is only heard once in the original piece, very briefly. Also sampled is "Short Piece" by Arthur Kreiger, now a professor of music at Connecticut College. Both tracks were compiled on the 1976 LP First Recordings — Electronic Music Winners, which Radiohead instrumentalist Jonny Greenwood stumbled upon while the band was working on Kid A.

Paul Lansky approved Greenwood's sampling and has since written an essay on "Idioteque", found in the book The Music and Art of Radiohead. Radiohead members Thom Yorke and Jonny Greenwood often compose music on their laptops, even while on the road touring, making it possible to create an electronic song in several minutes. Lansky also noted that, while Radiohead's song may hinge on a sample from his work, the mild und leise chord progression they used was itself "sampled" by Lansky from a leitmotif of the Richard Wagner opera Tristan und Isolde. On the original album release, the song was credited as having been written by Radiohead with an additional credit for the samples used. On the group's later album I Might Be Wrong: Live Recordings, the songwriting credit is given to "Radiohead & Paul Lansky".

Structure

In his essay "My Radiohead Adventure" in The Music and Art of Radiohead, Paul Lansky includes the following musical example, showing that the chord progression consists of four different spacings of an E flat major seventh chord, with B flat and E flat in the right hand and G and D in the left, then D and G in the right and E flat and B flat in the left. The next chords are inversions of the first two, with E flat and B flat in the right, then G and D. Finally, this chord progression also includes two high B flat harmonics on the 2nd and 4th chords. The song also consists of a polyrhythm, meaning the drums switch on and off from 6/4, where the vocals and other instruments are in 4/4.

Music video

The official video features Radiohead playing the song inside a studio. However, this version differs from the album version. The video for "Idioteque" would mark the last time the entire band would be featured in a music video until the 2007 video for Jigsaw Falling Into Place. Though there was a music video, no official single was released.

Animated "blips" or videos created to promote Kid A often showed polar bears or a Grim Reaper figure floating on icebergs. There is also a promotional video called Blinking Bear Version.

Lyrics and imagery

Yorke does not directly explain his lyrics, but "Idioteque" has been described by others as an "apocalyptic" song, with possible references to natural disaster, war and technological breakdown. Many fans interpret "Idioteque" as having something to do with climate change, an issue on which Yorke is outspoken and which he has admitted inspired subsequent songs, such as 2003's "Sail to the Moon" and those on his 2006 solo album The Eraser.

Several of the "Idioteque" lyrics (as well as those of certain other songs from the period) are audibly different in live performance. The "Idioteque" lyrics, like others on Kid A, were created from cutting up phrases and drawing them from a hat.

The song opens with the lines: "who's in a bunker, who's in a bunker, women and children first..." Yorke has not explained the reference, but has said other songs, such as 2003's "I Will" and "Sit Down. Stand Up." were about civilians killed in military conflict and genocide ("I Will" had originally been written before Kid A. Its lyrics also reference a "bunker," likely based on an incident in which Iraqi civilians including women and children were killed by air raids on the underground Al Amiriyah shelter in the 1991 Gulf War).

Near the end of the song, a line that sounds like "the first of the children" is repeatedly sung, possibly a reference to the album's title Kid A (this line is actually a sample of Yorke's vocal from earlier in the song, played halfway through the line "women and children first, and the children", making the line "the first, and the children"). However, when Yorke sings the song live, it varies between "the(re's) fathers and the children," "this one is to the children" and "this one is for the children."

The lyrics are paralleled in the visual artwork for the album Kid A by Stanley Donwood and Thom Yorke, under the pen name "Tchock". Donwood's paintings depict a wasteland covered by sheets of ice and snow, with fires in distant forests and genetically modified bears and other mysterious shapes taking control of human civilization.

The cover of the band’s 2000 album Kid A, Donwood says, was inspired by a Guardian front page photograph he saw during the Kosovo war. "It was of a square metre of snow and it was full of the detritus of war, all military stuff and ###### stains. I was upset by it in a way war had never upset me before. It felt like it was happening in my street."

The graphic novel Brought to Light by Alan Moore and Bill Sienkiewicz, has been acknowledged by Kid A cover designer Donwood as the source of the blood-filled swimming pool on the "Kid A" cover.

Many official Radiohead shirts sold during their 2001 tour featured a melting iceberg with the lyrics "This is really happening", taken from the lyrics of "Idioteque" written underneath.
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All that from wikipedia?
 
Uncle Humuna said:
AcerFC said:
Uncle Humuna said:
AcerFC said:
I do have a theme in mind but Im not sure I will be able to fill the mix following the plan. I guess we will see how it goes. I thought about it on the way to work today. All music was blocked at my work in the great purge of 2010. I will have to take times from wikipedia for now

1.2 American Idiot- Green Day, 2:54

Time Elapsed 2:54

Time Left 97:06
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This was the only song I had on my list.I'm screwed.
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Cant tell if you are messing with me or not, but I like it and it fits my theme (well so far)
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No, no.Great song.

My favorite from the decade.

The statement was more of a comment on my knowledge of Oughts music.

Seriously, my off-the-top-of-my-head list is ridiculously short.
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cool :lmao:

 
I don't really have a theme in mind. Keeping a good flow is usually enough for me, and that's hard enough already.

 
1.04 My Morning Jacket - One Big Holiday (5:21)

As stated in another thread, one of the best talk show musical performances ever

 
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(Return to Cookie Mountain, 2006, 4:39)I pretty much flipped out when I heard it the first time, and it's still just as awesome today. Way up there on the unwritten ranking of werewolf songs.

With this, I pretty much surrender any chance of picking a Radiohead song.

When the moon is round and full

Gonna teach you tricks that'll blow your mongrel mind

 
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You're ####ting me. How many millions of songs the past ten years??? My top three just went in the three picks directly before me. Impossible. :shock: :hot: :excited:

I'm going to need a minute to regroup. ####.

 
"Wolf Like Me" was a candidate for my pick.

Take me off of autoskip for the time being, please. I should be able to check in during the next hour should I come up.

 
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