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Yet you have a guy like Mike Mayot (SP) from THE Network who says he's the best one this year. Surprisingly he doesn't have any draft picks either. Touche. :thumbup:

I definitely think that we'll trade out of our spot. I would think we'll target one of the big 3 QB's, maybe my guy, maybe your guy (a WCO QB doesn't need the big arm so maybe Matt), or perhaps Huff who can play any of the DB positions or maybe Da Brick, but I don't think we'll give up 3-4 picks (probably 2 first's) to move up that high to get him. If they can't trade up, like into the top 10, then perhaps they'll trade down to the bottom of the first and then grab a Whitehurst or Croyle later in Day 1.

I wonder if we have any interest in Harrington as our #2 QB. There doesn't seem to be many QB's out there now who has some starting abilities still. We can't go into the year with Hill or even Knall (from GB) as our #2.

 
http://www.startribune.com/507/story/312796.html

The Vikings might be looking for a punter because Childress said the history of punters such as Chris Kluwe, who had ACL surgery, indicates they don't come back after the operation.
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Let's hope Kluwe comes back at full strength Best punter we have had in some time. (Funny the Defense started playing better when Kluwe was kicking 45 yard punts insteed of bennets 30 yarders.)From same article I think or another from strib

Vikings are 12 Mill under the cap with Hutch deal.

That means if sea matches they go back to 25 mill under..

If they don't mabyee 1 or 2 more FA? And they will have ton cap space again next year.

 
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I just don't understand why some guys want to give up the farm to trade up for one of the "big 3" QBs. If I'm going to give up 3 picks, I might as well just send them to Atlanta for Schaub. I could probably get him for less than our first and 2 seconds. Maybe a first and third, like they would get if they franchised him and someone signed him at this time next year. Why not just do it now?

If this team is going to trade up, it NEEDS to be for AJ Hawk. This team needs a stud LB in the worst way and this guys just screams Urlacher to me. Smart, fast, strong and perhaps most importantly, leadership abilitiy.

For the love of God, don't trade away all of your picks to tie up $20 million in some rookie QB who won't really help your team until the 2008-09 season!!

 
I just don't understand why some guys want to give up the farm to trade up for one of the "big 3" QBs. If I'm going to give up 3 picks, I might as well just send them to Atlanta for Schaub. I could probably get him for less than our first and 2 seconds. Maybe a first and third, like they would get if they franchised him and someone signed him at this time next year. Why not just do it now?

If this team is going to trade up, it NEEDS to be for AJ Hawk. This team needs a stud LB in the worst way and this guys just screams Urlacher to me. Smart, fast, strong and perhaps most importantly, leadership abilitiy.

For the love of God, don't trade away all of your picks to tie up $20 million in some rookie QB who won't really help your team until the 2008-09 season!!
:thumbup: Agree completely.
 
Yet you have a guy like Mike Mayot (SP) from THE Network who says he's the best one this year. Surprisingly he doesn't have any draft picks either. Touche.

I definitely think that we'll trade out of our spot. I would think we'll target one of the big 3 QB's, maybe my guy, maybe your guy (a WCO QB doesn't need the big arm so maybe Matt), or perhaps Huff who can play any of the DB positions or maybe Da Brick, but I don't think we'll give up 3-4 picks (probably 2 first's) to move up that high to get him. If they can't trade up, like into the top 10, then perhaps they'll trade down to the bottom of the first and then grab a Whitehurst or Croyle later in Day 1.

I wonder if we have any interest in Harrington as our #2 QB. There doesn't seem to be many QB's out there now who has some starting abilities still. We can't go into the year with Hill or even Knall (from GB) as our #2.

:goodposting:

 
If they don't get Hutch, I would guess they will try and get McKinnie signed to a new contract with a bunch of money going toward this year's cap, so they have plenty for next year and then don't have to worry about him next season.

 
This is just one of many references I have heard coming out of Minnesota. Without a doubt, I suspect Minnesota has every intention of drafting a young quarterback in the April draft.

So much of who they take will depend on who is available, who slips in the draft and what the cost will be to move up; but I believe the Triangle of Authority does intend to draft a young quarterback.

Personally, I hope it is Lienart. Reality and circumstance points to Cutler.

Available QBs are going fast

Pat Kirwan of NFL Network said Vikings coach Brad Childress hinted about the possibility of moving up in the draft.

"He already told me, 'We're looking at that trade chart, we're seeing if we have enough firepower to move up,' " Kirwan quoted Childress as saying on NFL Total Access. "I asked him if it was for a quarterback, and he said, 'We're intrigued with those three quarterbacks,' " referring to Matt Leinart, Vince Young and Jay Cutler.

Other draft possibilities include Omar Jacobs of Bowling Green, Brodie Croyle of Alabama and Charlie Whitehurst of Clemson.
 
Vikings | Team visits with Richardson Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:35:18 -0800 The Associated Press reports the Minnesota Vikings visited with free agent FB Tony Richardson (Chiefs) Monday, March 20.
 
Vikings | Team visits with Richardson

Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:35:18 -0800

The Associated Press reports the Minnesota Vikings visited with free agent FB Tony Richardson (Chiefs) Monday, March 20.
[barreiro]Well, that's the missing piece of the puzzle right there. I mean, should other teams even play for the Lombardi this year?

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Culpepper=T.O.

I refuse to even think of starting a new T.O. thread but found this interesting. Coach Childress is all business.
Very interesting. I always had a lot of man-love for Daunte and will forever defend him; but I believe there is at least some truth to what Childress was saying.
 
Vikings | Team visits with Richardson

Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:35:18 -0800

The Associated Press reports the Minnesota Vikings visited with free agent FB Tony Richardson (Chiefs) Monday, March 20.
Richardson was on the news tonight and said that he has a contract offer from the Vikes, and he will think it over and talk with his family about it, and of course pray.
 
Culpepper=T.O.

I refuse to even think of starting a new T.O. thread but found this interesting.  Coach Childress is all business.
Very interesting. I always had a lot of man-love for Daunte and will forever defend him; but I believe there is at least some truth to what Childress was saying.
I think it is stupid for Childress to be making statements like this to the press. It makes him look petty. DC is gone. Look to the future. Don't compare DC to TO, the guy you couldn't control in Philly. IMO, Childress has a lot bigger things to focus on, and the past, including his own past, are not the priorities. Statements like this are likely to take a life of their own (you can tell that is happening just from the headlines) and create further distractions. Rookie mistake by a rookie coach. :thumbdown:
 
Culpepper=T.O.

I refuse to even think of starting a new T.O. thread but found this interesting. Coach Childress is all business.
Very interesting. I always had a lot of man-love for Daunte and will forever defend him; but I believe there is at least some truth to what Childress was saying.
I think it is stupid for Childress to be making statements like this to the press. It makes him look petty. DC is gone. Look to the future. Don't compare DC to TO, the guy you couldn't control in Philly. IMO, Childress has a lot bigger things to focus on, and the past, including his own past, are not the priorities. Statements like this are likely to take a life of their own (you can tell that is happening just from the headlines) and create further distractions. Rookie mistake by a rookie coach. :thumbdown:
I can see value in this statement too. I immediately agreed with Childress' comments but I am now thinking twice that I was privey to hear the message.
 
So, if the Vikings get Hutchinson, how much money do they have left? And do they get anyone signifcant with that money?

1. Quarterback

2. Linebacker

3. Offensive lineman

We started out so quickly, it has gotten a bit boring. :P

 
So, if the Vikings get Hutchinson, how much money do they have left? And do they get anyone signifcant with that money?

1. Quarterback

2. Linebacker

3. Offensive lineman

We started out so quickly, it has gotten a bit boring. :P
You have my blessing to pencil Runyun in at right tackle, as soon as he returns from his vacation.
 
Anybody hear anything about TRich signing with the Vikings?

Fullback considers contract offer

Kevin Seifert and Judd Zulgad, Star Tribune

Last update: March 20, 2006 – 10:29 PM

Veteran fullback Tony Richardson appeared to be leaning strongly toward accepting a contract offer from the Vikings, a decision he planned to sleep on Monday night and settle on today.

Richardson, 34, is the second fullback to visit during free agency. William Henderson spurned the team's offer and returned to Green Bay, and Richardson also is mulling the interest level of his former team, Kansas City.

"It's definitely a tough decision," Richardson said. "But they made it pretty easy today. This has been a first-class visit from top to bottom. They really rolled out the red carpet."

After going without a traditional fullback under former coach Mike Tice, the Vikings plan to make extensive use of the position. Richardson is well-known as a blocker but also excelled as a receiver and rusher when the Chiefs ran a version of the West Coast offense earlier this decade.

His best season came in 2000, when he rushed for 697 yards and caught 58 passes. He started all 16 games last season but rushed for 20 yards and caught nine passes in Kansas City's tailback-oriented offense.

 
Anybody hear anything about TRich signing with the Vikings?

Fullback considers contract offer

Kevin Seifert and Judd Zulgad, Star Tribune

Last update: March 20, 2006 – 10:29 PM

Veteran fullback Tony Richardson appeared to be leaning strongly toward accepting a contract offer from the Vikings, a decision he planned to sleep on Monday night and settle on today.

Richardson, 34, is the second fullback to visit during free agency. William Henderson spurned the team's offer and returned to Green Bay, and Richardson also is mulling the interest level of his former team, Kansas City.

"It's definitely a tough decision," Richardson said. "But they made it pretty easy today. This has been a first-class visit from top to bottom. They really rolled out the red carpet."

After going without a traditional fullback under former coach Mike Tice, the Vikings plan to make extensive use of the position. Richardson is well-known as a blocker but also excelled as a receiver and rusher when the Chiefs ran a version of the West Coast offense earlier this decade.

His best season came in 2000, when he rushed for 697 yards and caught 58 passes. He started all 16 games last season but rushed for 20 yards and caught nine passes in Kansas City's tailback-oriented offense.
See my post a couple up.
 
OK so far.

OL looks strong.

Defense should be better than last year.

RB's?? Lots of question marks and hopes. MM, Taylor

One position left to secure.. And it just happens to be the most important one. QB :wall:

I like Brad, but to think he will survive the to play all 16 games is :loco: and right now he is the only QB under Contract.

Even if, and that's a big IF they trade up to get one of the top 3 QB's in the draft do we really want to go into the season with our only back-up being a Raw rookie??

:no:

Just hoping the Vikings don't go down the, Garbage off the street backing up your 1 true QB road, that Childress was so use to with the Eagles.

 
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Just hoping the Vikings don't go down the, Garbage off the street backing up your 1 true QB road, that Childress was so use to with the Eagles.
funny enough the Eagles dropped Mike McMahon yesterday. Possible reunion and back-up qb?
 
Culpepper=T.O.

I refuse to even think of starting a new T.O. thread but found this interesting.  Coach Childress is all business.
Very interesting. I always had a lot of man-love for Daunte and will forever defend him; but I believe there is at least some truth to what Childress was saying.
I think it is stupid for Childress to be making statements like this to the press. It makes him look petty. DC is gone. Look to the future. Don't compare DC to TO, the guy you couldn't control in Philly. IMO, Childress has a lot bigger things to focus on, and the past, including his own past, are not the priorities. Statements like this are likely to take a life of their own (you can tell that is happening just from the headlines) and create further distractions. Rookie mistake by a rookie coach. :thumbdown:
I can see value in this statement too. I immediately agreed with Childress' comments but I am now thinking twice that I was privey to hear the message.
As a first-year NFL coach, there's going to be somewhat of a learning curve for Childress, especially with stuff like dealing with the media. I don't have a problem with this, though. There are a lot of fans and members of the media trashing Childress' and the Vikings' decision to trade Daunte for "only" a second-rounder. I think they owed some type of explanation as to why they did it.
 
Quarterback certainly is the one glaring hole; they need to secure a quarterback of the future and all indications I am hearing point towards the draft.

 
I'm not expecting that the Vikings fix everything in the first year of the new regime.

Just because they have the money to spend, doesn't mean they have to spend it all just because they can. Giving big contracts to mediocre talent is not what I want to see.

I'd rather have a long term, Patriots-type winner three or four years from now than a one and done team.

 
I'm not expecting that the Vikings fix everything in the first year of the new regime.

Just because they have the money to spend, doesn't mean they have to spend it all just because they can. Giving big contracts to mediocre talent is not what I want to see.

I'd rather have a long term, Patriots-type winner three or four years from now than a one and done team.
Andy -To be honest, all I want is one Super Bowl Championship and I don't care how it is acquired. Heck, I would even take a Super Bowl in which we got dominated offensively and defensively but were handed the victory by the zebras...and I wouldn't complain one bit.

 
I'm not expecting that the Vikings fix everything in the first year of the new regime.

Just because they have the money to spend, doesn't mean they have to spend it all just because they can.  Giving big contracts to mediocre talent is not what I want to see.

I'd rather have a long term, Patriots-type winner three or four years from now than a one and done team.
Andy -To be honest, all I want is one Super Bowl Championship and I don't care how it is acquired. Heck, I would even take a Super Bowl in which we got dominated offensively and defensively but were handed the victory by the zebras...and I wouldn't complain one bit.
Come on. What are the chances of that happening? ;)
 
This could be the biggest trainwreck this offseason:

The new uniforms?

I know we talked about them before, but the more I look at them, the more I dislike the all purple look.

What should be done is to have the side stripes on the jerseys be all yellow rather than white outlined by yellow. Then continue the yellow stripe onto the pants, WHICH ARE WHITE. I think that would look much better.

 
Are these the real uniforms? Where did this link come from?????

The reason I ask is because I know Reebok is doing them but these have a Nike logo on them. So where did these come from? The team or what?

 
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Are these the real uniforms? Where did this link come from?????

The reason I ask is because I know Reebok is doing them but these have a Nike logo on them. So where did these come from? The team or what?
:shrug: I can't remember where I got that link.
 
Are these the real uniforms? Where did this link come from?????
Reg provided the link and knowing Reg, I am sure he clarified that it was just a link to nothing official.However, I do prefer Andy's idea of the yellow strip transcending the purple jersey and white pants.

 
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4485921

They are just a fans take on what they think the uniform will be (not what they want) based on the purple pant rumor.
I'm hoping there is a lot more black featured and a lot less purple than these mockups have.
Black uniforms have gotten so boring. The black Lions uniforms are AWFUL!
I agree with Andy. More black is very mid 90s. Also worth mentioning, I don't think "purple pants" exclusively means purple home pants. The purple pants could be part of the away jersey half of the new jerseys.

 
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...dpost&p=4485921

They are just a fans take on what they think the uniform will be (not what they want) based on the purple pant rumor.
I'm hoping there is a lot more black featured and a lot less purple than these mockups have.
Black uniforms have gotten so boring. The black Lions uniforms are AWFUL!
I agree with Andy. More black is very mid 90s. Also worth mentioning, I don't think "purple pants" exclusively means purple home pants. The purple pants could be part of the away jersey half of the new jerseys.
Well, that IS a decade ago now. It's making a comeback. Says me. :D
 
From the Hutchinson Thread

Hutchinson is in an interview right now on KFAN. Main points:

- Wanted a longterm deal with Seahawks before the season, felt somewhat put off that they missed his deadline prior to the season starting and chose to let him test the market instead of stepping forward.

- Didn't really know what to think when all the various reports came out last week over whether he'd be a Vike/Seahawk.

- Doesn't know if it would have been a difficult situation going back to Seattle had things turned out differently. Considered that it might but planned to cross that bridge when/if it came to it. Felt most teammates supported him regardless of what happened.

- Feels he'll bring great competitiveness and drive to the Vikes. Can set the tempo for the team on the field and the lockerroom.

- What attracted him to the Vikes? Midwest team, black and blue smashmouth division has always been a favorite... they love their football in the midwest.

- Not worried about dealing with the Viking changes. Came to Seattle with a losing record and feels a couple changes here or there can put an entire team on the same page to build something special.

- Believes in Childress policy of starting with the lines.

- Believes he is worth the $. It's not just play but leadership in lockerroom.

- Had zero contact with Seattle after the Viking offer so didn't feel a need to go public with what he preferred to happen and just let things play out.

- On Krob: Drafted together and believes he's an unbelieveable person and great athlete who needed a fresh start. Excited to reunite.

- Feels d-line is strong because he played vs. Pat/Kevin Williams and they are monsters.

- Feels Bryant McKinney is a pro-bowler in waiting and looks forward to helping him get to the next level.
 
Vikings aren't through shopping

Vikings aren't through shoppingFullback Richardson latest free-agent plumBY DON SEEHOLZERPioneer PressThe Vikings crossed another item off their free-agent shopping list Tuesday when fullback Tony Richardson agreed to terms on a two-year contract.

Richardson, who has played all of his 11 NFL seasons in Kansas City, is the sixth free agent to sign with the Vikings, joining running back Chester Taylor, kicker Ryan Longwell, linebacker Ben Leber, guard/center Jason Whittle and all-pro guard Steve Hutchinson, who was acquired late Monday when Seattle declined to match Minnesota's seven-year, $49 million offer sheet.

With the initial wave of free agency over and the first veterans minicamp scheduled for April 7-9, Vikings coach Brad Childress said he believes the team is off to a strong start.

"You know, you'd like to bat 1.000,'' Childress said. "You roll the dice and make people offers that you feel are commensurate with the market. In some cases, you overpay. You hope you don't overpay too much or too often. I think it's been successful in that the guys we've entertained, we've gotten most of them."

The Vikings have done well enough that Don Banks of SI.com ranked them No. 1 in his list of early free-agency winners, but Childress said they will continue to monitor the market for value before and after the minicamp.

Here's a look at some of the positions the team might be looking to address:

QUARTERBACK

The Vikings are in the market for a veteran backup to starter Brad Johnson after last week's trade that sent Daunte Culpepper to Miami, and Childress hasn't ruled out moving up from the 17th spot in the April 29-30 NFL draft for one of this year's top three quarterbacks: Southern California's Matt Leinart, Vanderbilt's Jay Cutler or Texas' Vince Young.

"You can't discount anything, I don't think," Childress said. "It would be pie in the sky to say we were going to do that had we not had an extra pick in the second round.... When you have an extra pick, then you have a little bit of wiggle room in terms of being able to move if you so desire."

Johnson will turn 38 in September so the Vikings need a quarterback of the future. But Childress indicated that the team will continue to look for an experienced backup.

"That's always the optimum, to have someone who's taken snaps in the league," he said. "And that would be with the guys that are left out there, with guys that may be June 1 cuts, people that get waived. I think we need to continue to look at all avenues there. There's a couple of guys that I've got my eyes on, some of them more familiar with than others."

The Vikings spoke with the agent for Tampa Bay free agent Brian Griese, but he agreed to terms with Chicago on a five-year contract Tuesday.

Veterans still available are Mike McMahon, who played for Childress last season in Philadelphia, Aaron Brooks, Kerry Collins, Jay Fiedler, Tommy Maddox, Jamie Martin and Anthony Wright. Detroit also is expected to part company with quarterback Joey Harrington.

DEFENSIVE BACK

The Vikings are set at three starting spots, with cornerbacks Antoine Winfield and Fred Smoot and free safety Darren Sharper, but they will be looking to add depth after losing cornerback Brian Williams and strong safety Corey Chavous in free agency.

LINEBACKER

The Vikings filled one hole when they signed Leber, who played on the strong side in San Diego, but they still need to find a starting middle linebacker, with Sam Cowart expected to leave via free agency.

Childress, asked if the team has a starter at that position, said: "We do feel like we've got somebody on the roster that can fill it. I'm not going to weight anybody down with any expectations, but I think there's probably somebody in place that will be able to man that pretty well."

E.J. Henderson started 14 games at middle linebacker in 2004 before losing his job to Cowart last season, but Childress isn't ready to pencil in starters at any specific spots.

"I think every one of them will train almost across the board," he said. "They may have a primary position, but position flexibility is going to be huge. We'll roll those guys around and see what the best lineup is."

OFFENSIVE LINE

The Vikings are set on the left side, with Hutchinson lining up between tackle Bryant McKinnie and center Matt Birk.

Childress said Adam Goldberg is the starter at right guard, and the Vikings plan to leave Marcus Johnson at right tackle after a rookie season during which he played there and at both guard spots.

"We may add another free agent in there before it's over and obviously we're eyeballing the draft in there on the offensive line," Childress said. "You've got to keep harvesting those guys and getting good young ones and training them."

Childress said the Vikings have remained in contact with New England guard Steve Neal and still could sign him.

Don Seeholzer can be reached at dseeholzer@pioneerpress.com.
 
I am curious what is going on at wide receiver, I feel like I am missing information.

K-Rob got a new dea, and Travis Taylor\Troy Williamson are under contract. Is Marcus Robinsons still under contract (I thought he signed a 2 year deal two years ago)? Did Burleson sign an offer sheet with Seattle?

 
Are those swords running down the side? This is clearly the work of a 14 year old kid.
BO - Burleson has not signed an offer sheet with Seattle yet, Seattle says they are coming up with something 'special' for the Vikes.
Is Seattle aware that we have to many wide receivers and would probably like to get rid of one them? Actually getting a 3rd round pick for one would be like an early X-Mas present.
 
BO - Burleson has not signed an offer sheet with Seattle yet, Seattle says they are coming up with something 'special' for the Vikes.
Is Seattle aware that we have to many wide receivers and would probably like to get rid of one them? Actually getting a 3rd round pick for one would be like an early X-Mas present.
Do you really think the Vikes can get a player better than Nate Burleson at the end of the 3rd? What happens when Koren starts drinking again and Marcus can't do anything because he's old? Travis is a free agent next year and Troy hasn't shown anything. Gotta keep Nate.

 
BO - Burleson has not signed an offer sheet with Seattle yet, Seattle says they are coming up with something 'special' for the Vikes.
Is Seattle aware that we have to many wide receivers and would probably like to get rid of one them? Actually getting a 3rd round pick for one would be like an early X-Mas present.
Do you really think the Vikes can get a player better than Nate Burleson at the end of the 3rd? What happens when Koren starts drinking again and Marcus can't do anything because he's old? Travis is a free agent next year and Troy hasn't shown anything. Gotta keep Nate.
I think if we are going to carry 5 wide receivers, one of them needs to be a solid contributor on special teams (outside of being the return man) ala Chris Walsh. I like Burleson, but we got Travis Taylor and Koren Robinson to start (I think Burleson is interchangeable with these two). Marcus Robinson as our primary backup and Troy Williamson as our slot receiver and\or #4 wide receiver.

If Burleson leaves, I just don't see a significant drop off anywhere in the depth chart at wide receiver; until you get to the #4 guy to the #5 guy. And my point is, the #5 guy on the depth chart should not be on the team soley for his receiving skills. The #5 guy adds more value to the 52 man roster if he is a solid special team contributor.

 
BO - Burleson has not signed an offer sheet with Seattle yet, Seattle says they are coming up with something 'special' for the Vikes.
Is Seattle aware that we have to many wide receivers and would probably like to get rid of one them? Actually getting a 3rd round pick for one would be like an early X-Mas present.
Do you really think the Vikes can get a player better than Nate Burleson at the end of the 3rd? What happens when Koren starts drinking again and Marcus can't do anything because he's old? Travis is a free agent next year and Troy hasn't shown anything. Gotta keep Nate.
Koren, Marcus and Travis (I believe) were all FA signees/waiver pickups so they were cheap acquisitions and wr's like this (Q. Morgan, etc.) are always available. I would think that the Koren signing indicates that Burleson doesn't fit into their plans as he once did. They also have Williamson. You can only have so many wr's and they are all about the same caliber IMO.

 
Troy Williamson as our slot receiver and\or #4 wide receiver.
For a #7 overall pick, that sucks. Even if it is only his second year.Just think if Red had given Antonio Pierce that signing bonus last year. Then they draft Derrick Johnson last draft and someone like Bobby Carpenter or Thomas Howard or Ernie Sims this one. All of a sudden, the defense is looking fantastic.

 
Mike McMahon :thumbdown: :no:Aaron Brooks - could do worse. Not a bad back-upKerry Collins - Age + Injury = :confused: Jay Fiedler - Been there done that..Tommy Maddox - Not sure if skilles went to crap or he jsut had a bad fill-in season last year.Jamie Martin - Chance there to grow, but looked pretty bad fillin in for Bulger last season.Anthony Wright - Ummm.... :no: :thumbdown: Joey Harrington - NO F'In Way :hot: :thumbdown: :no: :angry: .
If that's the best we have to choose from to back-up Johnson for this season I'd go Brooks, Collins, then Martin/Maddox/Fiedler.Hope for either a big drop on June 1st and move up in the draft to get a future QB or this team is going to be :( if Johnson goes down.
 
Troy Williamson as our slot receiver and\or #4 wide receiver.
For a #7 overall pick, that sucks. Even if it is only his second year.Just think if Red had given Antonio Pierce that signing bonus last year. Then they draft Derrick Johnson last draft and someone like Bobby Carpenter or Thomas Howard or Ernie Sims this one. All of a sudden, the defense is looking fantastic.
Have you seen what the stellar coaching staff from last year did with Dontarrious Thomas?No doubt in my mind that if we would have drafted Derrick Johnson last year, the coaching staff would have turned him into an immediate bust as well.

 
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