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Maybe he told them he was waning. Plus that ball was pretty squarely hit (great play by Cabrera).Why are they pulling him with a 5 run lead to play matchups? Is Matt Williams the interim manager?
It's 7-2. He can give up a 750 foot homer, or at least a baserunner, before pulling him.Maybe he told them he was waning. Plus that ball was pretty squarely hit (great play by Cabrera).
Which would increase the pressure on the next guy.It's 7-2. He can give up a 750 foot homer, or at least a baserunner, before pulling him.
A little miss can’t be wrong...pray for a man in the middle
one that talks like Doolittle
Yes they are. But they are human and will make mistakes. And that Trea Turner call was awful. #### happens.falguy said:These umps are the best of the best,huh?
The play was actually not awful. There's an actual rule in place that states he's out.Yes they are. But they are human and will make mistakes. And that Trea Turner call was awful. #### happens.
They faced good pitching.In MLB, NBA, or NHL (the article I read also included the NFL for some reason), no playoff series in the history of any of those sports has had a 7 game series where the away teams won the first 6 games of a series. That's not just finals. That's ANY playoff series. That's pretty wild.
I think the slight edge goes to the Nats tonight. Lots of pressure on the Astros to win against Max. I still don't think Max will be the Max of old, but who knows. Maybe this will be his bloody sock moment.
What scares me most about this game tonight is the Astros bats cooled off again last night. So did they really break out of their slump? Or did they just pull off the Enron's Ride of Broken Dreams trajectory?
Pitching has been the furthest thing from the key to this series. It's been all about who's got the hot bats. I know we love to talk about Max, Cole, JV and Stras, but the truth is, these guys aren't unhittable. They are very good, but they are not automatic wins. And on top of that, none of them go 9 innings on a regular basis.They faced good pitching.
Pitching is the key to the series.
Time for the Major League to switch to the Little League first base, then that stupid rule that penalizes a base-runner should become moot...
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Right.Another thing about a WS G7 is that everyone except Stras and JV are going to be available tonight. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole or Corbin warming up in the bullpen at some point tonight if things are close. And both Max and Zack are going to be on very short leashes. I'd imagine the first time Greinke has two men on, you might see Urquidy warming up in the bullpen. It's all hands on deck.
I wouldn't rule out Stras or Verlander either.Another thing about a WS G7 is that everyone except Stras and JV are going to be available tonight. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole or Corbin warming up in the bullpen at some point tonight if things are close. And both Max and Zack are going to be on very short leashes. I'd imagine the first time Greinke has two men on, you might see Urquidy warming up in the bullpen. It's all hands on deck.
Corbin isn't just going to warm he's probably the first guy to pitch after Max tonight. Anibal Sanchez could get a couple innings too instead of our turd relievers. If we get through 6 with the lead I wouldn't be surprised to see him try to finish with Hudson and Doolittle though I'd be nervous about that. I really wish they wouldn't have used Doolittle last night.Another thing about a WS G7 is that everyone except Stras and JV are going to be available tonight. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Cole or Corbin warming up in the bullpen at some point tonight if things are close. And both Max and Zack are going to be on very short leashes. I'd imagine the first time Greinke has two men on, you might see Urquidy warming up in the bullpen. It's all hands on deck.
You seem to keep missing the point, GB. Pitching plays a part in every game. What I've been saying is that it's not the overall factor. It hasn't been for a single game of this entire series.Right.
Pitching...
Does the concept of sharp money really exist in baseball?Early indications from Vegas showing that more money is coming in on the Nationals than the Astros. Whether this is sharp money or public money, I am not sure.
Watttt?You seem to keep missing the point, GB. Pitching plays a part in every game. What I've been saying is that it's not the overall factor. It hasn't been for a single game of this entire series.
Short leash on every pitcher tonight. Nothing to save them for.Scherzer is truly the key to me.
If he is totally healthy he could shut the Astros down. If not and they tee off him it could get ugly.
I am well aware of the rule.....he was not inside the line when he crossed the bag, it did not impair the player at all from attempting to catch an obvious throwing error. In fact the reason it was an awful call was an error was turned into an out.The play was actually not awful. There's an actual rule in place that states he's out.
Since the dawn of time, players have run down the first base line on the wrong side trying to "walk the line" of fair and foul, literally. You want to know what an awful call is? Swinging at a pitch, missing, and having it called a foul. Players complain about these types of calls all of the time, but they are in the wrong.
It had almost everything to do with it.Watttt?
You don’t think facing Strasburg had anything whatsoever to do with the outcome of that game last night?
But, in the regular season that make that call with regularity.I am well aware of the rule.....he was not inside the line when he crossed the bag, it did not impair the player at all from attempting to catch an obvious throwing error. In fact the reason it was an awful call was an error was turned into an out.
The call was awful.
The issue I took with it was it is a judgement call. It is not called black and white actually.But, in the regular season that make that call with regularity.
It's getting all this attention in this World Series for obvious reason, but runners cheat that line all the time to try and get away with it. Not saying I like it, because I think the rule is dumb.
But I actually think the umps called it properly here. Lucky for MLB Rendon saved their backs on this one.
OkIf there’s anybody that should be mad about the call it’s the Astros. It’s a non-reviewable call yet we had to sit with them on the phone to NY for 5 minutes. Will Harris got cold and grooves a pitch that the next guy homers.
Again @TheIronSheik , it all circles back to pitching.
Thought the same thing last night. Prevents injuries from stepping on the 1st baseman's foot too. For the most part.Time for the Major League to switch to the Little League first base, then that stupid rule that penalizes a base-runner should become moot...
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Not to mention Smoltz even said that when he was pitching they were coached to game the system and purposely throw at the base runner in the hopes of getting that call. MLB is grateful today that it didn't cost the Nats the game, else this would be a World Series with an asterisk. They need to fix that rule.Not a huge baseball fan, but a Nats fan so I'm watching the series with great interest (as I have with their entire playoff run.
So what was Turner suppose to do? At what point in his run to first should he have been on, or to the right of (when looking at camera from behind him) the line in order to not be breaking the rule? It's not in his interest to do anything other than a straight line from where he was when he finished his hit to the bag itself., which he appeared to do.
What's the purpose of the rule itself? The 1st baseman can't block the bag, and the runner has a free path to the bag itself. It was a bad throw that caused all this, so why should a bad throw result in the batter/runner being out?
It doesn't matter if the throw was bad (and it wasn't that bad). The rule states the runner must run in the running lane until the last stride to hit the bag. If the runner interferes with the ability to catch the throw and did not run in the running lane he is called out. The rule does not specify that it is only applicable if it is a good throw. Just that the runner interferes with the ability to catch the ball. This is exactly what happened. The rule was called correctly.The issue I took with it was it is a judgement call. It is not called black and white actually.
The throw was bad. It was going to be a throwing error. And Turner clearly was on line crossing the bag when he hit Gurriels glove.
Crap judgement call IMO. In a huge game.
Again, I'm not a baseball guy. Where, and when, does Turner need to be in that lane? Immediately after hitting the ball? Once the ball has been thrown? When the 1st baseman is attempting to catch it? And where is that lane?It doesn't matter if the throw was bad (and it wasn't that bad). The rule states the runner must run in the running lane until the last stride to hit the bag. If the runner interferes with the ability to catch the throw and did not run in the running lane he is called out. The rule does not specify that it is only applicable if it is a good throw. Just that the runner interferes with the ability to catch the ball. This is exactly what happened. The rule was called correctly.
If Turner runs in the running lane (as he is supposed to do) then it is likely that he is called safe as he would be doing the rule states he should do. The problem was that he ran where he is not supposed to run. The running lane is there for this exact scenario. There is a rule that outlines exactly what the runner is supposed to do. Turner did not do what he was supposed to do.
Technically it wasn't the next guy as Eaton was the next batter and he popped out. However, your point is still a good one. That was an awful long time to be on the phone to get confirmation that it was non reviewable due to it being a judgement call. i think numbnuts brought it up to Smoltz asking why it took so long to read the rule in the book and confirm this.Will Harris got cold and grooves a pitch that the next guy homers.
The relevant part of the rule states "In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three-foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire's judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base, in which case the ball is dead;"It doesn't matter if the throw was bad (and it wasn't that bad). The rule states the runner must run in the running lane until the last stride to hit the bag. If the runner interferes with the ability to catch the throw and did not run in the running lane he is called out. The rule does not specify that it is only applicable if it is a good throw. Just that the runner interferes with the ability to catch the ball. This is exactly what happened. The rule was called correctly.
If Turner runs in the running lane (as he is supposed to do) then it is likely that he is called safe as he would be doing the rule states he should do. The problem was that he ran where he is not supposed to run. The running lane is there for this exact scenario. There is a rule that outlines exactly what the runner is supposed to do. Turner did not do what he was supposed to do.