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Was willing to give my right testicle for the Celtics to lose and now I'll give up the left one for the Heat to lose. Not really using them anyway.
Jay: the fact that the 4 teams that went to the finals in the bubble were the same 4 teams in the conference finals this year is more of an indictment of the shortened 2021 season than the bubble. Only denver made it out of the first round in 2021 bc those teams were gassed.Anyone with a roster "chock full of HOF players" wins championships. The only team to fit that criteria in the last several years is the Warriors.They have this guy who runs the team named Pat Riley
They have a Head Coach who LeBron wanted fired when he first landed but rode the storm and won titles that others couldn't.
The FO is loaded with guys who are former players like Zo
I respect how easy it is for you to dismiss the last 8-10 years here but I think it's incredible they have been playing in the ECF 3 of 4 years and advanced to the Finals twice now with a roster that is not chock full of Hall of Fame players.
The Heat have a system, doesn't always bring home a trophy but they are not usually the laughing stock of the NBA
I forget how many draft picks Miami forfeited when they signed LeBron but it took a long time to dig out of that, the Hassan Whiteside years were brutal.
ESPN computer says Miami has less than an 8% chance to win the Finals, it's them against the World
The Bubble playoffs were fluky and they surprised there. This season, they probably underperformed in the regular season more than anything, but I give them credit there as well.
No way the Heat win this Finals. I knew they could beat the Celtics because the Celtics are an immature lot. Denver is a GREAT team with no real holes. Only caveat is if Jokic misses 2 or more games to injury. Barring that, I expect Denver to win and win big (4-5 games).
HI! Again the arguement is still valid. There are some guys who either are not interested (KD, Kyrie etc) or love their city (Giannis, Beal) but Riley at least gets int he room to talk to them if they are looking.Hellohello? Butler? Hello? Lowry? Dragic?You got Lebron and Bosh and post-prime Shaq this way. Please relax. You aren’t the Lakers. Your current team is being led by a guy who has never been first-team all-nba and 15 undrafted guys who figured out they could shoot for 6 weeks.Miami usually gets the guy who wants to come here.
To put things in perspective the betting odds for the Heat winning the series seems to range from +295 to +375 in the few sites I’ve been seeing (basically in the neighborhood of anywhere from 3-1 or 4-1 odds. One interesting bet that I saw is if Jokic can record 50+ (combined points, rebounds, and assists) for every game in the finals at 11-1.Jay: the fact that the 4 teams that went to the finals in the bubble were the same 4 teams in the conference finals this year is more of an indictment of the shortened 2021 season than the bubble. Only denver made it out of the first round in 2021 bc those teams were gassed.Anyone with a roster "chock full of HOF players" wins championships. The only team to fit that criteria in the last several years is the Warriors.They have this guy who runs the team named Pat Riley
They have a Head Coach who LeBron wanted fired when he first landed but rode the storm and won titles that others couldn't.
The FO is loaded with guys who are former players like Zo
I respect how easy it is for you to dismiss the last 8-10 years here but I think it's incredible they have been playing in the ECF 3 of 4 years and advanced to the Finals twice now with a roster that is not chock full of Hall of Fame players.
The Heat have a system, doesn't always bring home a trophy but they are not usually the laughing stock of the NBA
I forget how many draft picks Miami forfeited when they signed LeBron but it took a long time to dig out of that, the Hassan Whiteside years were brutal.
ESPN computer says Miami has less than an 8% chance to win the Finals, it's them against the World
The Bubble playoffs were fluky and they surprised there. This season, they probably underperformed in the regular season more than anything, but I give them credit there as well.
No way the Heat win this Finals. I knew they could beat the Celtics because the Celtics are an immature lot. Denver is a GREAT team with no real holes. Only caveat is if Jokic misses 2 or more games to injury. Barring that, I expect Denver to win and win big (4-5 games).
The heat CAN win these finals the same way they have won the past three series: Flipping home court, good shooting, good defense. I do not expect them to win the finals but I didn't expect them to win any of this other stuff either. They also have been here before. They gave lebron and AD all they could handle in the bubble (Jimmy was arguably the best player in those finals).
You want to give me odds? I'll take the bet. No way means, what? 100:1?
You got Lebron and Bosh and post-prime Shaq this way. Please relax. You aren’t the Lakers. Your current team is being led by a guy who has never been first-team all-nba and 15 undrafted guys who figured out they could shoot for 6 weeks.Miami usually gets the guy who wants to come here.
One interesting bet that I saw is if Jokic can record 50+ (combined points, rebounds, and assists) for every game in the finals at 11-1
I hardly participate in sports gambling. I might throw $50 on a longshot to win a title when the season starts—but that’s about it (outside of my fantasy leagues). The bet certainly indicates that it’s not supposed to happen (basically an 8-9% shot based on the odds). With that said—for the regular season, Jokic averaged 24.5-11.8-9.8 which comes out to a combined 46.1 per game. He averaged just under 34 minutes per game during the regular season. If one feels like he can feast on the Heat, and will average nearly 39 minutes per game (which is what he’s been averaging thus far into the playoffs)—it wouldn’t be shocking to see him do it. I’m with you though—it’s certainly far more unlikely than it is likely. He’ll have games where he exceeds it—but it only takes one game where he doesn’t reach it for the bet to be a loser.One interesting bet that I saw is if Jokic can record 50+ (combined points, rebounds, and assists) for every game in the finals at 11-1
I don't gamble but seems like a sucker bet. 29/10/10 and you lose. They blow the Heat out in game 1 and he sits the 4th and you are done.
I know you are big soccer fan. I would recommend saving at least one testicle for US Soccer to kick if they finally decide to hire a coach anytime this cycle.Was willing to give my right testicle for the Celtics to lose and now I'll give up the left one for the Heat to lose. Not really using them anyway.
These playoffs he has had:One interesting bet that I saw is if Jokic can record 50+ (combined points, rebounds, and assists) for every game in the finals at 11-1
I don't gamble but seems like a sucker bet. 29/10/10 and you lose. They blow the Heat out in game 1 and he sits the 4th and you are done.
I honestly thought you were just being sarcastic when you mentioned Dragic and Lowry. Those guys are fine but that type of player signs across the league every year.HI! Again the arguement is still valid. There are some guys who either are not interested (KD, Kyrie etc) or love their city (Giannis, Beal) but Riley at least gets int he room to talk to them if they are looking.Hellohello? Butler? Hello? Lowry? Dragic?You got Lebron and Bosh and post-prime Shaq this way. Please relax. You aren’t the Lakers. Your current team is being led by a guy who has never been first-team all-nba and 15 undrafted guys who figured out they could shoot for 6 weeks.Miami usually gets the guy who wants to come here.
Riley has pulled off the impossible so many times: Zo, Hardaway, Shaq, Lebron, Bosh, Dragic, Lowry, Butler and a bunch of mid level guys as well. Brought back wade at the end. The team has been hit by Zo's kidney, Shaq wanting out, Lebron Leaving, Bosh's leg issue, etc etc and he still builds winners.
Yeah, some of the magic is gone with Lebron copying a lot of the Riley stuff after he left and Wade and Fizdale trying to reshape the Jazz into a version of what riley does in miami, but Riley always at least gets in the room.
The nice ladies from Diamond Cabaret are already going to be there after the game handing out those coupons, shouldn't be difficult for them to stop by to hand deliver some coupons to the team.Denver has to make sure their staff just randomly drops coupons in Miami's locker room for local strip joints. There is a lot of dead time between game one and two.
Denver has to make sure their staff just randomly drops coupons in Miami's locker room for local strip joints. There is a lot of dead time between game one and two.
Denver has to make sure their staff just randomly drops coupons in Miami's locker room for local strip joints. There is a lot of dead time between game one and two.
Let me guess some of the names:
- Mike High Club
- Twin Peaks
- Granola Gals
- Rocky Mountain High
I’m not very good at these.
You are forgetting your history here. Dragic at the time of the trade was not "just a guy" and 5 teams were on his tail. He picked Miami, and as Miami does, they gave up picks and pieces to get him. The trade happened 2 days before Bosh was then lost for the season due to Blood clots in his legs, forcing Riley to then regroup again and remake the roster. The fact that Miami takes these big swings and then even manages to retool, rebuild, and restock without having a high pick (Bam was taken at 14, Herro at 13) should say all that needs to be said about the heat front office and Riley.I honestly thought you were just being sarcastic when you mentioned Dragic and Lowry. Those guys are fine but that type of player signs across the league every year.HI! Again the arguement is still valid. There are some guys who either are not interested (KD, Kyrie etc) or love their city (Giannis, Beal) but Riley at least gets int he room to talk to them if they are looking.Hellohello? Butler? Hello? Lowry? Dragic?You got Lebron and Bosh and post-prime Shaq this way. Please relax. You aren’t the Lakers. Your current team is being led by a guy who has never been first-team all-nba and 15 undrafted guys who figured out they could shoot for 6 weeks.Miami usually gets the guy who wants to come here.
Riley has pulled off the impossible so many times: Zo, Hardaway, Shaq, Lebron, Bosh, Dragic, Lowry, Butler and a bunch of mid level guys as well. Brought back wade at the end. The team has been hit by Zo's kidney, Shaq wanting out, Lebron Leaving, Bosh's leg issue, etc etc and he still builds winners.
Yeah, some of the magic is gone with Lebron copying a lot of the Riley stuff after he left and Wade and Fizdale trying to reshape the Jazz into a version of what riley does in miami, but Riley always at least gets in the room.
That’s why it’s 11-1 odds. $10 to win $110 is a decent payout to take the risk. With that said, I’m on your side that everything has to break right or you’re basically just giving money away.One interesting bet that I saw is if Jokic can record 50+ (combined points, rebounds, and assists) for every game in the finals at 11-1
I don't gamble but seems like a sucker bet. 29/10/10 and you lose. They blow the Heat out in game 1 and he sits the 4th and you are done.
2025? He has a $63.2 million player option for the 2026-7 season. He won’t turn that down.I mean.....if Lillard wants to sign with the Heat in the summer of 2025 at age 35, I would say Bon Chance, Amigo and wish him all the best. Outside of that, Miami has nothing in the way of capital to trade to Portland for the best player ever to wear The Pinwheel. Late 1st round picks aren't doing it.
Good call. In the spirit of sportsmanship it's prolly best to keep them away from Shotgun Willie's. Would hate to see any suspensions.The nice ladies from Diamond Cabaret are already going to be there after the game handing out those coupons, shouldn't be difficult for them to stop by to hand deliver some coupons to the team.Denver has to make sure their staff just randomly drops coupons in Miami's locker room for local strip joints. There is a lot of dead time between game one and two.
2025? He has a $63.2 million player option for the 2026-7 season. He won’t turn that down.I mean.....if Lillard wants to sign with the Heat in the summer of 2025 at age 35, I would say Bon Chance, Amigo and wish him all the best. Outside of that, Miami has nothing in the way of capital to trade to Portland for the best player ever to wear The Pinwheel. Late 1st round picks aren't doing it.
Looks horrible for the Celts IMOI saw a trade proposal that didn't make much sense to me, but hey, it got me to click on it.
Boston receives: Karl-Anthony Towns
Minnesota receives: Marcus Smart, Robert Williams, Derrick White, 2024 first, and a 2026 first
That seems like a really odd thing for BOS to want to do. That would mean the Celtics would start JB, JT, KAT, Horford, and Brogdon with no depth on their bench. In a couple years, that would give Boston three $50+ million players. Not sure that is even doable anymore.
Would such a trade make Boston any better?
2025? He has a $63.2 million player option for the 2026-7 season. He won’t turn that down.I mean.....if Lillard wants to sign with the Heat in the summer of 2025 at age 35, I would say Bon Chance, Amigo and wish him all the best. Outside of that, Miami has nothing in the way of capital to trade to Portland for the best player ever to wear The Pinwheel. Late 1st round picks aren't doing it.
I just googled when he becomes an unrestricted free agent. I understand basketball contracts about as well as I understood organic chemistry 303.
That's a bad trade for both teams. Impressive.I saw a trade proposal that didn't make much sense to me, but hey, it got me to click on it.
Boston receives: Karl-Anthony Towns
Minnesota receives: Marcus Smart, Robert Williams, Derrick White, 2024 first, and a 2026 first
That seems like a really odd thing for BOS to want to do. That would mean the Celtics would start JB, JT, KAT, Horford, and Brogdon with no depth on their bench. In a couple years, that would give Boston three $50+ million players. Not sure that is even doable anymore.
Would such a trade make Boston any better?
And tough to box out. Check check
Looking for a player who has otherworldly hops, man.
Seriously.That's a bad trade for both teams. Impressive.I saw a trade proposal that didn't make much sense to me, but hey, it got me to click on it.
Boston receives: Karl-Anthony Towns
Minnesota receives: Marcus Smart, Robert Williams, Derrick White, 2024 first, and a 2026 first
That seems like a really odd thing for BOS to want to do. That would mean the Celtics would start JB, JT, KAT, Horford, and Brogdon with no depth on their bench. In a couple years, that would give Boston three $50+ million players. Not sure that is even doable anymore.
Would such a trade make Boston any better?
Is it though? Is pop not a great coach as well bc of the players he gets? (sure having Duncan or the admiral certainly help too). Coaches and front offices with longevity have a certain style and need certain types of players to fit that style. For pop, it is guys who can pass and “handle”. For Miami, it is guys who are up for the challenge on defense and who want to “go get it”. for golden state, Kerrs philosophy of “shoot from anywhere” needs guys like curry et Al but all three of those guys preach defense as well. Phil Jackson is likely the only coach I remember who’s system was predicated on having one of the top 3 players in the league to be effective (and having a top 10 guy as his running mate), and they still were always all world on d.This Heat culture thing is starting to get ridiculous. The Heat are very good at developing players, the culture got them Jimmy Butler, Dragic and a 35 year old, way past his prime Kyle Lowry.
D-Wade is to thank for Shaq and that 06 title.
D-Wade, the Miami weather and his friendship with LeBron and Bosh is to thank for the 4 year run in the early 2010's. If it was all culture LeBron wouldn't have jumped ship after 4 years.
Is it though? Is pop not a great coach as well bc of the players he gets? (sure having Duncan or the admiral certainly help too). Coaches and front offices with longevity have a certain style and need certain types of players to fit that style. For pop, it is guys who can pass and “handle”. For Miami, it is guys who are up for the challenge on defense and who want to “go get it”. for golden state, Kerrs philosophy of “shoot from anywhere” needs guys like curry et Al but all three of those guys preach defense as well. Phil Jackson is likely the only coach I remember who’s system was predicated on having one of the top 3 players in the league to be effective (and having a top 10 guy as his running mate), and they still were always all world on d.This Heat culture thing is starting to get ridiculous. The Heat are very good at developing players, the culture got them Jimmy Butler, Dragic and a 35 year old, way past his prime Kyle Lowry.
D-Wade is to thank for Shaq and that 06 title.
D-Wade, the Miami weather and his friendship with LeBron and Bosh is to thank for the 4 year run in the early 2010's. If it was all culture LeBron wouldn't have jumped ship after 4 years.
why Has Riley always developed a guy no one ever heard of? John starks, even further back Michael cooper, a bunch of guys on the heat that went on to larger second contracts who came from no where. (Bruce Bowen played for Miami before going to the spurs). Second rounders that became ballers, and now (with the help of their affiliate team the sky force) all these guys.
philly is what it is bc they didn’t “trust the process” and once they jettisoned the architect of that theory they’ve been chasing “culture” ever since and spin cycling through players and coaches not named embiid.
lebron jumped ship bc he wanted to run the team, and Riley said nope. Wade jumped ship at one point bc he felt entitled to a fat contract but didnt want to expand his game out to the three point line. He came back when he realized that other teams are not as accountable as the heat are with players. Hence the conversation with jimmy buckets. Haslem is another of those guys, btw. You remember him now but in the 2006 title he was a starter and he came from playing in Europe as a fat forward/center to a lean power forward with a money 15 foot baseline jump shot and unreal defense. He was also a rotation player during the big 3 era but when spo went “positionless” he became the OG on the team.
That's certainly not how the Nuggets have built their team.All these coaches and front office people got all time great players and worked their system around them, not the other way around.
Not really that surprising. They generally give it to the coach of a team that made a huge step up in wins from one season to the next or otherwise had a breakout season. Both DEN and MIA are usually good, so it would be hard for them to realize a big bump in the win column. The Heat post-Lebron have been good but not great in the regular season. The Nuggets under Malone have been very competitive (past his first two seasons). IIRC, the post season doesn't count at all toward Coach of the Year.Dan Patrick show was talking about this but it's quite something that neither Spo nor Malone has won NBA Coach of the Year honors.
Well you're basically betting whether he gets injured and misses games. Do you think there's a greater than five percent chance of that happening?Jokic is minus 20000 to lead the series in rebounds or assists. Lol
Everyone else is plus 2500 or more. Makes me wonder if I should make a little bet on someone else just in case.
6 years 72 mil for Williams. Wow.Reports: Pistons making one last push for Monty Williams; preparing "significant" offer to make him head coach
Williams led the Suns to the NBA Finals in 2021 and was NBA Coach of the Year in 2022www.detroitbadboys.com
He told them no once and they are trying again. It may not work, but I am very happy that they are trying.
6 years 72 mil for Williams. Wow.Reports: Pistons making one last push for Monty Williams; preparing "significant" offer to make him head coach
Williams led the Suns to the NBA Finals in 2021 and was NBA Coach of the Year in 2022www.detroitbadboys.com
He told them no once and they are trying again. It may not work, but I am very happy that they are trying.
Needs more steps. I'm thinking6 years 72 mil for Williams. Wow.Reports: Pistons making one last push for Monty Williams; preparing "significant" offer to make him head coach
Williams led the Suns to the NBA Finals in 2021 and was NBA Coach of the Year in 2022www.detroitbadboys.com
He told them no once and they are trying again. It may not work, but I am very happy that they are trying.
Step one - Get a great coach - check
Step two - ????
Step three - ????
Step four - ????
Step five - ????
Step six - win championships
We are on the way.
Needs more steps. I'm thinking6 years 72 mil for Williams. Wow.Reports: Pistons making one last push for Monty Williams; preparing "significant" offer to make him head coach
Williams led the Suns to the NBA Finals in 2021 and was NBA Coach of the Year in 2022www.detroitbadboys.com
He told them no once and they are trying again. It may not work, but I am very happy that they are trying.
Step one - Get a great coach - check
Step two - ????
Step three - ????
Step four - ????
Step five - ????
Step six - win championships
We are on the way.
I like Cade + Ivey + Duren. Wiseman is a nice lottery ticket.Needs more steps. I'm thinking6 years 72 mil for Williams. Wow.Reports: Pistons making one last push for Monty Williams; preparing "significant" offer to make him head coach
Williams led the Suns to the NBA Finals in 2021 and was NBA Coach of the Year in 2022www.detroitbadboys.com
He told them no once and they are trying again. It may not work, but I am very happy that they are trying.
Step one - Get a great coach - check
Step two - ????
Step three - ????
Step four - ????
Step five - ????
Step six - win championships
We are on the way.
I am an optimist.
This Heat culture thing is starting to get ridiculous. The Heat are very good at developing players, the culture got them Jimmy Butler, Dragic and a 35 year old, way past his prime Kyle Lowry.
D-Wade is to thank for Shaq and that 06 title.
D-Wade, the Miami weather and his friendship with LeBron and Bosh is to thank for the 4 year run in the early 2010's. If it was all culture LeBron wouldn't have jumped ship after 4 years.