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Chadstroma said:
Raiders reportedly eyeing potential Davante Adams sign-and-trade

Originally posted on Sportsnaut  |  By Matt Johnson  |  Last updated 3/4/22

The Las Vegas Raiders head into NFL free agency knowing Davante Adams is unlikely to hit the open market. Fortunately for quarterback Derek Carr and coach Josh McDaniels, there might still be a way to land the All-Pro receiver.

Reuniting Adams and Carr remains atop the Raiders’ offseason wish list. The duo starred at Fresno State, forming one of the best quarterback-receiver tandems at the collegiate level during their era. With Adams looking to become the highest-paid receiver in the NFL, Las Vegas seems like the perfect landing spot.

The Green Bay Packers want to keep Adams and will likely franchise tag him for $20 million-plus guaranteed. Viewed as one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, he is seen as an essential element for a potential Aaron Rodgers return. If the back-to-back MVP retires or asks for a trade, the door is open.

Tony Pauline of Pro Football Network reports the buzz at the NFL Combine is Green Bay would trade Adams to Las Vegas if Rodgers doesn’t come back. If a deal goes through, the Raiders would focus on a long-term deal for Adams.

If the Packers allowed Adams to walk in free agency, they would receive a third-round compensatory pick in the 2023 NFL Draft. However, a sign-and-trade this offseason could net them a first-round pick – at minimum a round 2 selection – in the 2022 NFL Draft.

The Raiders will be anxiously waiting for Rodgers’ decision, hoping he ends his tenure with the Packers. Unfortunately for Las Vegas, many expect the All-Pro quarterback to play for Green Bay in 2022.
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Adams is destined to receive the franchise tag in 2022.

 
JohnnyU said:
Adams is destined to receive the franchise tag in 2022.
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Sure, but IF Rodgers doesn't stay at Green Bay they can still negotiate a trade. IMHO Rodgers and Adams will be both back in Green Bay. 

Interesting situation for the Raiders thou if it unfolds. They'd be essentially trading the Free Agent they could have signed with Adams money PLUS whoever they could get at #22.   

Hypothetically, Mike Williams, at say $18 mil/a year, plus Jordan Davis/Penning/Olave/Cross/J.Willaims et al.,  and 4-6 million more for Davante Adams. 

 
Ok, so do we want...

Adams as a Raider AND Rodgers as Bronco?
OR
Adams and Rodgers in GB?

If Adams will only stay if Rodgers is there, then we have to assume the only way we see Adams in the Silver & Black is if the Bronco's pony up (pun intended) for Rodgers. 

 
Chaka said:
For me his main issue has always been durability. Even if he doesn't miss games, he always seems to carry a Q tag.

He has also seems to be more of a boom/bust guy but maybe I am misremembering that bit.

Still, if you can land him for less than top 10 WR money, a big if but possible after 2021, then why not bring him back home?
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I don’t watch enough Cowboys to know if he truly "solved" this problem, but he always seemed to have drops in critical situations when he played for us. Like wide open 3rd down catches to make a critical conversion. Am I misremembering? 

 
kaso said:
Ok, so do we want...

Adams as a Raider AND Rodgers as Bronco?
OR
Adams and Rodgers in GB?

If Adams will only stay if Rodgers is there, then we have to assume the only way we see Adams in the Silver & Black is if the Bronco's pony up (pun intended) for Rodgers. 
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I don't give one flying #### about the donkeys.  If they have Rodgers, if they draft someone, whatever.  We still have to beat whoever it is.  Give us a guy like Adams and that task becomes easier.

 
kaso said:
Ok, so do we want...

Adams as a Raider AND Rodgers as Bronco?
OR
Adams and Rodgers in GB?

If Adams will only stay if Rodgers is there, then we have to assume the only way we see Adams in the Silver & Black is if the Bronco's pony up (pun intended) for Rodgers. 
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Hhmmmnn... good way of putting it. The last thing I want is Rodgers in Denver. I am much more scared of a Donkey tea. With Rodgers than I am with Mahomes and the Chefs. 

 
Chadstroma said:
What price is that? And whay is the QB solution? 
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My personal price starts at two firsts plus... more.   When you get into that territory you have to listen.

As far as the solution: I have no idea. It's not a great draft for QBs and any QB the Raiders would get in a swap or on the open market would be a stop gap on the way to a wasted season. A wasted season for a team on the rise is a heavy, heavy toll, which is why two firsts plus (more) would have to be the minimum starting point.  

joey said:
Exactly. Are we going to spend yet another page on this topic. We HAVE our QB that we’ve spent 2 decades trying to find. Sheesh. 
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I did say that I would "...hate, hate to lose him..." not enough "hate"?

 
Chaka said:
My personal price starts at two firsts plus... more.   When you get into that territory you have to listen.

As far as the solution: I have no idea. It's not a great draft for QBs and any QB the Raiders would get in a swap or on the open market would be a stop gap on the way to a wasted season. A wasted season for a team on the rise is a heavy, heavy toll, which is why two firsts plus (more) would have to be the minimum starting point.  

I did say that I would "...hate, hate to lose him..." not enough "hate"?
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I wouldn’t even trade him for 2 firsts, as crazy as that might sound. Such a slim chance that we find someone equal to his quality, let alone better. Build AROUND him, not start again without him. 

 
Chaka said:
My personal price starts at two firsts plus... more.   When you get into that territory you have to listen.

As far as the solution: I have no idea. It's not a great draft for QBs and any QB the Raiders would get in a swap or on the open market would be a stop gap on the way to a wasted season. A wasted season for a team on the rise is a heavy, heavy toll, which is why two firsts plus (more) would have to be the minimum starting point.  

I did say that I would "...hate, hate to lose him..." not enough "hate"?
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No, it needed a few more hates. 

 
joey said:
I wouldn’t even trade him for 2 firsts, as crazy as that might sound. Such a slim chance that we find someone equal to his quality, let alone better. Build AROUND him, not start again without him. 
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He did say plus... but yea, I can't see getting enough for Carr where it makes sense and then at that point you have to have a good option that is ironclad to bring in a vet proven QB. Otherwise we waste all the young players we have in place and can win with as we search for a QB again... hopefully not for 20 something years this time though.

 
joey said:
I wouldn’t even trade him for 2 firsts, as crazy as that might sound. Such a slim chance that we find someone equal to his quality, let alone better. Build AROUND him, not start again without him. 
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I don’t want to lose Carr but if you can get two firsts plus more, you listen.  

 
Josh McDaniels: Raiders have no time for rebuilding

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 6

New Raiders head coach Josh McDaniels is putting high expectations on himself for his first year in Las Vegas.

McDaniels said he has every expectation that the Raiders team he inherited can win in 2022, building off the playoff team he inherited.

“I don’t think in today’s NFL there’s really any time to do rebuilding anyway,” McDaniels said, via the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “This certainly isn’t that type of situation for us.”

The Raiders made the playoffs with a 10-7 record last season, but they really weren’t as good as that 10-7 record suggests. They were outscored over the course of the season, scoring 374 points while allowing 439, which is more typical for a 7-10 team than a 10-7 team. They closed the season with four consecutive close wins over non-playoff teams to sneak into the postseason.

Which means McDaniels may not be inheriting a team that’s ready to win right away. But he’s setting the expectation that they ought to be better in 2022 than they were in 2021.

 
Report: Raiders actively working on extension for DE Maxx Crosby

While all indications are the Raiders are not in a rush to give Derek Carr a new deal — and no contract talks have occurred as of yet — they are making Pro Bowl pass rusher Maxx Crosby a priority. This is according to Vic Tafur of The Athletic.

This is a very wise approach by the Raiders’ new GM Dave Ziegler and new head coach Josh McDaniels. Crosby is entering his prime as one of the league’s premier pass rushers, he will be paid like one.

Raiders fans probably recall the last time the Raiders got a new head coach and the high profile pass rusher who was in line for an extension at that time. That new head coach, of course, was Jon Gruden, and the player was All Pro Khalil Mack.

No priority was placed on getting Mack locked up and the result was him sitting out offseason activities and the market going up in the meantime. Ultimately the team traded Mack for a couple of first-round picks, thus putting a lead weight on Gruden’s tenure as Raiders head coach before he had ever fielded a team.

That is not to say the situation with Crosby would ever get to that point, but it’s always better to make it very clear to your young star player that he is the highest priority. Not to mention, signing him earlier means they are less likely to see the market jump up beforehand due to other players getting deals first.

Tafur notes in his report, that Crosby likely won’t command top dollar in the NFL, which goes to the likes of multiple-time Pro Bowlers TJ Watt and Myles Garrett. but that Crosby will likely be in line for something north of $20 million per season. That would make put him among the top 5-6 highest paid edge rushers in the league.

Since it’s an extension, some of the total could be shifted to next year’s cap. And being that Crosby was a fourth-round pick, that would significantly spread out his cap hit on a per-season basis.

 
Van Noy released. You got to think that he will get a long look from us. Versatile OLB that would be familiar with the kind of system we will run. 

 
Chadstroma said:
Van Noy released. You got to think that he will get a long look from us. Versatile OLB that would be familiar with the kind of system we will run. 
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Decent lb. Don’t want pay him 6M/year.  And I get the NE connection, but won’t the d be different than NE?

 
Full staff

Coach/Title

Patrick Graham Defensive Coordinator

Chris Ash Defensive Backs

Matt Feeney Defensive Quality Control

Frank Okam Defensive Line

Antonio Pierce Linebackers

Rob Ryan Senior Defensive Assistant

Jason Simmons Defensive Backs/Pass Game Coordinator

Mick Lombardi Offensive Coordinator

Edgar Bennett Wide Receivers

Carmen Bricillo Offensive Line

Cameron Clemmons Assistant Offensive Line

Bo Hardegree Quarterbacks

Kennedy Polamalu Running Backs

Jerry Schuplinski Senior Offensive Assistant

Mitch Singler Offensive Quality Control

Tom McMahon Special Teams Coordinator

Maurice Drayton Assistant Special Teams

Matt Sheldon Director of Football Research and Strategy

A.J. Neibel Head Strength and Conditioning

D’Anthony Batiste Strength and Conditioning Assistant

Deuce Gruden Strength and Conditioning Assistant

Rick Slate Strength and Conditioning Assistant

 
kaso said:
The deal Rodgers has a agreed to is 4 years $200M - but also reduces the cap number going into next season, opening the door for the Packers to franchise tag Adams. 
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Adams getting tagged  (not yet.. missed the "expected" on the ticker... still in awe of Wilson going to Denver)

 
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LawFitz said:
Ok, now let's revisit the idea of trading for DK Metcalf. I think I'd rather have Metcalf for less cost than Davante Adams for (possibly much) more cost.
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I had the same thought but it still may be cost prohibitive in terms of picks and still paying $20 million a year... and we still have to do othet contracts. 

 
I think the raiders would be better off going for a cooks type wr, than breaking the bank on a huge name. 
 

the defense is, was and has been the problem for years.  Spend the money there. 

 
Two 1st rounders, two 2nd rounders, one 5th, Noah Fant, Drew Lock and Shelby Harris for Wilson and a 4th. 

 
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Wilson to Denver is rough for the whole division. Minor plus the Broncos lost so much draft capital and Noah Fant buy thereia no getting around how brutal AFC West is.

 
LawFitz said:
Ok, now let's revisit the idea of trading for DK Metcalf. I think I'd rather have Metcalf for less cost than Davante Adams for (possibly much) more cost.
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When you first posed the question I said that if they were going to do it they might as well trade Wilson and commit to a rebuild. 

But I still don't think there is any way they trade the remaining cornerstone of their franchise while he's still on his rookie deal.

 
Chaka said:
But I still don't think there is any way they trade the remaining cornerstone of their franchise while he's still on his rookie deal.
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He has just one year remaining. They need to extend him prior to next season or franchise him. If they go full rebuild, he's one of their few remaining high-value pieces to offload for significant draft capital AND cap relief.

All that said, I agree that you don't let a player like this go. But it depends on how the Seahawks view their new rebuild situation. If the Raiders could justify trading Khalil Mack, the Seahawks could justify trading DK Metcalf.

 
Chaka said:
Wilson to Denver is rough for the whole division. Minor plus the Broncos lost so much draft capital and Noah Fant buy thereia no getting around how brutal AFC West is.
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Wilson is good, don't get me wrong, but hes now the eldest QB in the AFC West. He will start to decline, some argue he has already. This is a desperation move by the Broncos because they haven't been able to develop a QB. We're going to hear for the next 6 months how the Broncos are now Super Bowl contenders without seeing the product on the field. They will be over-hyped like they always are.

Herbert and the Chargers are the team that should have us all worried ...

 
Bruno2 said:
Wilson is good, don't get me wrong, but hes now the eldest QB in the AFC West. He will start to decline, some argue he has already. This is a desperation move by the Broncos because they haven't been able to develop a QB. We're going to hear for the next 6 months how the Broncos are now Super Bowl contenders without seeing the product on the field. They will be over-hyped like they always are.

Herbert and the Chargers are the team that should have us all worried ...
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I don't think many people are arguing that Wilson is on the decline. Playing poorly with a middle finger on his throwing hand with a 90 degree bend in it is not a strong indicator of decline.

With the WR corps they have in place and a top 8 defense (#3 in scoring) they are as dangerous as they have been since Manning.

 
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Russ is only 33 years old. I think he has plenty of juice remaining. This looks like a great deal to me for the Broncos, especially if all those picks end up being late in the respective rounds - word is one of the 1sts might be this year's #9 overall - it better be or this trade was a steal. Lock is a bum. Fant is ascending, but needs to be paid soon. 

 
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