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There was a 3 day gap between G1 and 2. Glad we're getting back to normal in Dallas with only 2 days rest.
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2023-24 NBA (Playoffs!) Thread: Message board poster furiously types out one more horrible post before thread closes (1 Viewer)
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There was a 3 day gap between G1 and 2. Glad we're getting back to normal in Dallas with only 2 days rest.
the moops
Footballguy
That's right. 3 day gap between both 1 and 2 and 2 and 3. Good catch
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I always thought it was a dumb saying. So if everyone wins all their home games does the series start after game 7?
Capella
Footballguy
Yea this series is almost definitely over.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
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Anarchy99
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+/- scores for Celtics F's and C's vs. theie last 6 games against the Mavs.
Tatum +98 in 238 minutes
Brown +70 in 212 minutes
Horford +62 in 175 minutes
Porzingis +39 in 73 minutes
Hauser +36 in 85 minutes
Tillman +13 in 15 minutes
Brissett +3 in 6 minutes
Kornet -1 in 26 minutes
If KP can't go, it really should not make a huge difference. Yeah, I get it, stats from the past don't matter, "this is a different Mavs team!", the tide will turn now that the venue has shifted to Dallas, the Mavs have the best player in the series, etc. All those could turn out to be true, but the Celtics offensive style of play and commitment to playing defense have remained consistent across all those games.
On the KP injury front, he's listed as questionable. Comparisons have been made to Curt Schilling having a similar injury in the Red Sox World Series run. Maybe they will rule Porzingis out soon, but for now, they may be considering playing him based on whatever treatment he is getting and how he looks in warmups.
Tatum +98 in 238 minutes
Brown +70 in 212 minutes
Horford +62 in 175 minutes
Porzingis +39 in 73 minutes
Hauser +36 in 85 minutes
Tillman +13 in 15 minutes
Brissett +3 in 6 minutes
Kornet -1 in 26 minutes
If KP can't go, it really should not make a huge difference. Yeah, I get it, stats from the past don't matter, "this is a different Mavs team!", the tide will turn now that the venue has shifted to Dallas, the Mavs have the best player in the series, etc. All those could turn out to be true, but the Celtics offensive style of play and commitment to playing defense have remained consistent across all those games.
On the KP injury front, he's listed as questionable. Comparisons have been made to Curt Schilling having a similar injury in the Red Sox World Series run. Maybe they will rule Porzingis out soon, but for now, they may be considering playing him based on whatever treatment he is getting and how he looks in warmups.
Jayrod
Footballguy
One thing analysts touch on but dance around is Luka's net effect when you factor in his defense.
Nearly the entire Celtics offensive game plan is centered upon taking Luka off the dribble after drawing Gafford/Lively to the 3 pt line. And it is highly effective. If he doesn't improve his defense, without him scoring 40+ and/or Kyrie adding in 30, not sure how Dallas can win. Tatum can also go nuclear at any point as well.
Nearly the entire Celtics offensive game plan is centered upon taking Luka off the dribble after drawing Gafford/Lively to the 3 pt line. And it is highly effective. If he doesn't improve his defense, without him scoring 40+ and/or Kyrie adding in 30, not sure how Dallas can win. Tatum can also go nuclear at any point as well.
the moops
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The video clips are brutal. He gets blown by nearly every single time he has any of Tatum, Brown, Holliday
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Game 2 saw Tatum have the most drives into the paint in a single game across his 623-game career. Brown had the 2nd most drives into the paint out of his 661 career games played. That led to a lot of clanked layups or kick outs for wide open spot up threes that the Celtics just didn't make (IIRC, 34 of them). Anyone remotely thinking the Mavs defense is fine and not a major issue is not paying attention. Boston players are getting by Luka without much effort (and many times without screens). On top of that, the Mavs defensively have been trying to hide Kyrie on the back line under the basket (which also hasn't worked . . . Holiday was scoring at will from a foot from the basket). I would not be surprised if Tatum went for 35+, Boston hit 20+ threes, and with a lot more shots falling, that Boston will score into the 130s in Game 3.
As far as KP goes, he was seen entering practice this afternoon dressed to practice without any sort of brace on, no limp, no change is his gait, no anything. Shams echoed what I mentioned earlier . . . that they will check him again in pre-game warmups with the hope that he will play.
Edit to add: another thing I forgot to mention, the media's narrative was Boston won three playoff series at full health (not even mentioning KP being out) playing against opponents with key injuries. No one even mentioned Porzingis when he was out. Now we get to the Finals, and suddenly KP is the most important player for Boston in the series . . . and some people have wondered if Boston could still win without him. OK, media talking heads, hoops analysts, and so-called experts . . . which is it? How was he mostly irrelevant for over a month, but suddenly the world would be knocked off its access should the C's not have him (and his 20-22 minutes a game)?
Also, it has since come out that Porzingis participated in afternoon practice, FWIW.
As far as KP goes, he was seen entering practice this afternoon dressed to practice without any sort of brace on, no limp, no change is his gait, no anything. Shams echoed what I mentioned earlier . . . that they will check him again in pre-game warmups with the hope that he will play.
Edit to add: another thing I forgot to mention, the media's narrative was Boston won three playoff series at full health (not even mentioning KP being out) playing against opponents with key injuries. No one even mentioned Porzingis when he was out. Now we get to the Finals, and suddenly KP is the most important player for Boston in the series . . . and some people have wondered if Boston could still win without him. OK, media talking heads, hoops analysts, and so-called experts . . . which is it? How was he mostly irrelevant for over a month, but suddenly the world would be knocked off its access should the C's not have him (and his 20-22 minutes a game)?
Also, it has since come out that Porzingis participated in afternoon practice, FWIW.
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massraider
Footballguy
SWC
Bromigo
i feel like when you are freak of nature tall and that athletically gifted your injuries are going to be just as freaky take that to the bank brochacho
identikit
Footballguy
He's a regular medical marvel
the moops
Footballguy
Or one of 32 other big babies that have an owie that most of the world would just shrug off and continue on with their lives
mr. furley
Footballguy
and most of the time it's so bad it looks like he just doesn't even care
it looks like he's a coach at light practice just letting dudes run by him
The Gator
Footballguy
I liked following Luka's stats/highlights more than watching him play. Exceptionally lazy and it's not fun to watch his entire game.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I got a hearty chuckle watching some highlights of practice / the afternoon shoot around. Kornet was spotting up all around the three point line practicing his outside shot. If Mazzulla can scheme up wide open looks for the Green Kornet and he makes some, he will jump even higher on my coaching rankings. Forgot to mention that I also laughed at a new nickname someone gave to Tatum, which apparently stuck . . . Big Deuce.
Brunell4MVP
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Porzingis is a big loss. Dude stretches the court and defends the rim like no other big. Sadly he spends 60% of his career in the operating room.
Even so I think DAL looks done. I predicted DAL would lose games 1 and 2, then bounce back with Kyrie taking on more of the load. But I don't see it at this point. DAL looks tired and their role players aren't ready for prime time. The entire BOS team looks more locked in than ever. And the matchups are a nightmare for DAL. BOS has several guys that can make Doncik work really hard on offense. They can hold him to 30 with 1 guy on him. Someone else on DAL is gonna have to get very hot from 3 for them to have any chance.
Even so I think DAL looks done. I predicted DAL would lose games 1 and 2, then bounce back with Kyrie taking on more of the load. But I don't see it at this point. DAL looks tired and their role players aren't ready for prime time. The entire BOS team looks more locked in than ever. And the matchups are a nightmare for DAL. BOS has several guys that can make Doncik work really hard on offense. They can hold him to 30 with 1 guy on him. Someone else on DAL is gonna have to get very hot from 3 for them to have any chance.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
This is kind of where I am at. The other side I see is Boston goes nuclear from 3 just to show they don't need KP.
Porzingis is a big loss. Dude stretches the court and defends the rim like no other big. Sadly he spends 60% of his career in the operating room.
Porzingis injury might cause the Celtics to bear down and play their best game instead of easing off the gas and letting the Mavs take one
Desert_Power
Footballguy
He's been having a really strong year IMO. The ball movement on offense and defensive schemes have been high level. It's one thing to have the players, but another to have the buy in.
Thinking back to his mistakes last year compared to the Pacers series this year and I see some growth. Not getting enough credit for the awesome run the Celtics are on.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Luka intentionally slithering to the floor after every shot, touched or not, reminds me so much of D-Wade/Bron in Miami. Shameful.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I can't root for a coach giving a pep talk with his hat on backwards
Or one that hits his wife or crashes his car while driving drunk.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Going into game 3 the whinning from Luka and Tatum was under control. Luka is making up for it tonight.
trader jake
Footballguy
Luka went full Harden at the end of the 1st quarter. You never go full Harden.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Pritchard with some great defense.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I never thought those Heat teams were particularly egregious in looking for calls.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Kyrie is making me a believer that he cursed himself in Boston by stomping on that stupid leprechaun.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Brown and White gotta show up 2nd half.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I wonder if the pain killers Luka is getting are why he starts so well in the first quarter and then he fades as the game goes on.
the moops
Footballguy
Either that or all that extra blubber he is carrying around
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Maybe the Mavs can trade for Zion and they can have eating contests and post them here.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
That is the first time I have seen that Draymond commercial with his daughter. I think she shoots better than he does.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Such a weak call.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I've seen it on social media a few times. I immediately let social media know I do not want any Draymond.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
This feels like the beginning of a monster quarter.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Lovely fake from White to catch PJ there.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Took 35 cents on the dollar on my Mavs' series wager before the half.
Also have Bos ML +124 tonight.
Feel good about that.
Also have Bos ML +124 tonight.
Feel good about that.
brun
Footballguy
He expends too much energy on defense?
Jayrod
Footballguy
Honestly I believe that is part of the plan.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I did actually bet Boston series outright before it started but looked really hard at a Mavs hedge before tonight.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Jokes aside, the Celtics have clearly been hunting that matchup.
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