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2024 Cowboys Season Thread - We even suck at tanking. (2 Viewers)
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Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Eagles will happily take Parsons off your hands. What would it take?
Bankerguy
Footballguy
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
Why not try for Hutchinson too instead of that 1st or 2nd?
But yeah, after the Lions front office turns Jeruh down, give Roseman a ring & a reach-around just to see what ya hoe-downers can get for Parsons. Snotty Buble is on the right track here......
Oh, and, Jeruh will never fire himself and just get out of the way already. Hate to say it but, your Boys are screwed until the morning he doesn't wake up.
Hastur
Footballguy
Mr. Landry
Footballguy
Sadly, that was a brilliant and 1,000% accurate article.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Pretty much nails it.
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
Wow. I sorta feel bad for the fans....they've continuously purchased a product that for years has been highly underachieving (for various different reasons each year) but the one constant all that time was the guy gladly taking their hard earned money.
Saquon
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Pffft.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
We are fast approaching the crypt keeper days of head/facial sores and Big Trouble in Little China fingernails on display.
N Zone
Footballguy
Could have drafted Braelon Allen. He went in the 4th round to the Jets, a team already with a top young running back in Breece Hall.
Everyone knew the Cowboys needed a running back and they didn't even draft one. Big mistake.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Their problems run alot deeper than rb
Hastur
Footballguy
Is the position of "Owner" something we can draft?
Stat Correction
Footballguy
(Not a Cowboy fan....unbiased observation)
In my humble opinion, this is the week that Dak makes his annual transformation, plays his game (including outside the pocket throwing and scrambling), and looks like a quasi-hall-of-famer for the ROS. They have dug a deep hole, and with the resurgence of the Skins, they may not sneak into the playoffs as a wildcard this season, but the offense will become productive. Dak is an unexplainable enigma....
In my humble opinion, this is the week that Dak makes his annual transformation, plays his game (including outside the pocket throwing and scrambling), and looks like a quasi-hall-of-famer for the ROS. They have dug a deep hole, and with the resurgence of the Skins, they may not sneak into the playoffs as a wildcard this season, but the offense will become productive. Dak is an unexplainable enigma....
Hastur
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Gosh I hope not since I'm forced to start Dowdle this week. Can you maybe predict the following week instead?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!
Zeke being inactive just raised his floor for tomorrow.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
He’s not wrong
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
So Dak hurt his hammy?
Great, just great. Super helpful to my Lamb share. And my Ferguson share.
Great, just great. Super helpful to my Lamb share. And my Ferguson share.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Eagles -6.5 next week is free money. Get it while you can
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Hate to break the news to you, but Josh Harris is another owner who cares more about the teams valuation than he does about winning.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
I don’t really agree with this take on Jerry. He obviously wants to win, he’s just too arrogant to hire a real GM and give up control. If Jerry ONLY cared about valuation, he sure as **** wouldn’t have backed up the Brinks truck to pay Dak. Heck, if he only cared about valuation he would see he’s hurting his by being s control freak.Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Hate to break the news to you, but Josh Harris is another owner who cares more about the teams valuation than he does about winning.
Dak isn’t selling tickets, not anymore. The team is a mess and not really close to contending. Should have let Dak test the open market, traded CeeDee who still can’t run a route, and blown it all up in favor of better years ahead. While I’m on the topic, trade Parsons for a 1st/plus and how does McCarthy still have a job?
Jerry is in over his head as a GM and talent evaluator and it’s getting worse with age. At least Al Davis was known for drafting speed, what’s Jerry known for?
And in the case of Harris, we don’t really know yet and who cares? As long as they’ve got guys like Daniels, it solves both problems.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I don’t really agree with this take on Jerry. He obviously wants to win, he’s just too arrogant to hire a real GM and give up control. If Jerry ONLY cared about valuation, he sure as **** wouldn’t have backed up the Brinks truck to pay Dak. Heck, if he only cared about valuation he would see he’s hurting his by being s control freak.Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Hate to break the news to you, but Josh Harris is another owner who cares more about the teams valuation than he does about winning.
Dak isn’t selling tickets, not anymore. The team is a mess and not really close to contending. Should have let Dak test the open market, traded CeeDee who still can’t run a route, and blown it all up in favor of better years ahead. While I’m on the topic, trade Parsons for a 1st/plus and how does McCarthy still have a job?
Jerry is in over his head as a GM and talent evaluator and it’s getting worse with age. At least Al Davis was known for drafting speed, what’s Jerry known for?
And in the case of Harris, we don’t really know yet and who cares? As long as they’ve got guys like Daniels, it solves both problems.
I mean, you’re probably right about a lot of what you said except the drafting well part.
They have drafted very well. Where they get into trouble is when their pick gets taken from them and they panic (Like when they wanted Laporta and took Ferguson,) and they suck at picking defensive tackles( Mazi) Other than that, they’re pretty damn good.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Don't forget Lamb getting hurt tooSo Dak hurt his hammy?
Great, just great. Super helpful to my Lamb share. And my Ferguson share.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
But are they good at drafting? Really? I like Ferguson as a player FWIW, and they got him in the 4th a year before LaPorta. I think you mean Schoonmaker, but I see your point. They might have wanted LaPorta, but they didn't need him. The book is still out on Schoonmaker, but they had other areas of immediate need and Ferguson was fine.I don’t really agree with this take on Jerry. He obviously wants to win, he’s just too arrogant to hire a real GM and give up control. If Jerry ONLY cared about valuation, he sure as **** wouldn’t have backed up the Brinks truck to pay Dak. Heck, if he only cared about valuation he would see he’s hurting his by being s control freak.Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Hate to break the news to you, but Josh Harris is another owner who cares more about the teams valuation than he does about winning.
Dak isn’t selling tickets, not anymore. The team is a mess and not really close to contending. Should have let Dak test the open market, traded CeeDee who still can’t run a route, and blown it all up in favor of better years ahead. While I’m on the topic, trade Parsons for a 1st/plus and how does McCarthy still have a job?
Jerry is in over his head as a GM and talent evaluator and it’s getting worse with age. At least Al Davis was known for drafting speed, what’s Jerry known for?
And in the case of Harris, we don’t really know yet and who cares? As long as they’ve got guys like Daniels, it solves both problems.
I mean, you’re probably right about a lot of what you said except the drafting well part.
They have drafted very well. Where they get into trouble is when their pick gets taken from them and they panic (Like when they wanted Laporta and took Ferguson,) and they suck at picking defensive tackles( Mazi) Other than that, they’re pretty damn good.
Anyway, looking through their drafts in recent history, I see a lot of misses and a lot of drafting of incomplete players with flashy and sometimes elite singular traits. These players' weaknesses are quickly exposed by the NFL. They need to be drafting some boring but complete players that can be long term contributors to a winning franchise.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He came back out. Seems like a minor shoulder issue. AC sprain?Don't forget Lamb getting hurt tooSo Dak hurt his hammy?
Great, just great. Super helpful to my Lamb share. And my Ferguson share.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I don’t really agree with this take on Jerry. He obviously wants to win, he’s just too arrogant to hire a real GM and give up control. If Jerry ONLY cared about valuation, he sure as **** wouldn’t have backed up the Brinks truck to pay Dak. Heck, if he only cared about valuation he would see he’s hurting his by being s control freak.Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Hate to break the news to you, but Josh Harris is another owner who cares more about the teams valuation than he does about winning.
Dak isn’t selling tickets, not anymore. The team is a mess and not really close to contending. Should have let Dak test the open market, traded CeeDee who still can’t run a route, and blown it all up in favor of better years ahead. While I’m on the topic, trade Parsons for a 1st/plus and how does McCarthy still have a job?
Jerry is in over his head as a GM and talent evaluator and it’s getting worse with age. At least Al Davis was known for drafting speed, what’s Jerry known for?
And in the case of Harris, we don’t really know yet and who cares? As long as they’ve got guys like Daniels, it solves both problems.
Dak is exactly the type of move an owner worried about valuation does. It's a do anything to be playoff relevant, but not enough to be championship relevant. It's a move to avoid a rebuild.
Harris' Sixers are there right now, hanging on to Embiid even though they know he'll never be healthy enough to win a title. They're clinging to him to keep the team relevant so they can build a stadium downtown.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
But are they good at drafting? Really? I like Ferguson as a player FWIW, and they got him in the 4th a year before LaPorta. I think you mean Schoonmaker, but I see your point. They might have wanted LaPorta, but they didn't need him. The book is still out on Schoonmaker, but they had other areas of immediate need and Ferguson was fine.I don’t really agree with this take on Jerry. He obviously wants to win, he’s just too arrogant to hire a real GM and give up control. If Jerry ONLY cared about valuation, he sure as **** wouldn’t have backed up the Brinks truck to pay Dak. Heck, if he only cared about valuation he would see he’s hurting his by being s control freak.Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Hate to break the news to you, but Josh Harris is another owner who cares more about the teams valuation than he does about winning.
Dak isn’t selling tickets, not anymore. The team is a mess and not really close to contending. Should have let Dak test the open market, traded CeeDee who still can’t run a route, and blown it all up in favor of better years ahead. While I’m on the topic, trade Parsons for a 1st/plus and how does McCarthy still have a job?
Jerry is in over his head as a GM and talent evaluator and it’s getting worse with age. At least Al Davis was known for drafting speed, what’s Jerry known for?
And in the case of Harris, we don’t really know yet and who cares? As long as they’ve got guys like Daniels, it solves both problems.
I mean, you’re probably right about a lot of what you said except the drafting well part.
They have drafted very well. Where they get into trouble is when their pick gets taken from them and they panic (Like when they wanted Laporta and took Ferguson,) and they suck at picking defensive tackles( Mazi) Other than that, they’re pretty damn good.
Anyway, looking through their drafts in recent history, I see a lot of misses and a lot of drafting of incomplete players with flashy and sometimes elite singular traits. These players' weaknesses are quickly exposed by the NFL. They need to be drafting some boring but complete players that can be long term contributors to a winning franchise.
Thanks, yeah I meant Shoonmaker.
Everybody has misses but I think they do pretty well at talent evaluation.
This team doomed itself when it let Dak throw for 5000 yards, which were all hollow, then they were forced to pay him.
They need to move on or cut his pay substantially
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
My point is, winning and valuation are not mutually exclusive. All owners want their franchise to be valued at a premium to all others. All owners want to win. All else equal, winning brings higher valuation. Jerry wants to win, but unfortunately his ego gets in the way of hiring someone that can help them get there.I don’t really agree with this take on Jerry. He obviously wants to win, he’s just too arrogant to hire a real GM and give up control. If Jerry ONLY cared about valuation, he sure as **** wouldn’t have backed up the Brinks truck to pay Dak. Heck, if he only cared about valuation he would see he’s hurting his by being s control freak.Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Hate to break the news to you, but Josh Harris is another owner who cares more about the teams valuation than he does about winning.
Dak isn’t selling tickets, not anymore. The team is a mess and not really close to contending. Should have let Dak test the open market, traded CeeDee who still can’t run a route, and blown it all up in favor of better years ahead. While I’m on the topic, trade Parsons for a 1st/plus and how does McCarthy still have a job?
Jerry is in over his head as a GM and talent evaluator and it’s getting worse with age. At least Al Davis was known for drafting speed, what’s Jerry known for?
And in the case of Harris, we don’t really know yet and who cares? As long as they’ve got guys like Daniels, it solves both problems.
Dak is exactly the type of move an owner worried about valuation does. It's a do anything to be playoff relevant, but not enough to be championship relevant. It's a move to avoid a rebuild.
Harris' Sixers are there right now, hanging on to Embiid even though they know he'll never be healthy enough to win a title. They're clinging to him to keep the team relevant so they can build a stadium downtown.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
They just gave Dak $231M guaranteed with 60/year through 2029. You can't put that toothpaste back in the tube as the Browns and Broncos have found out. Dak plus CeeDee are locking up nearly $100M per year. That's a crazy percentage of the cap locked up in a QB that's won nothing, isn't allowed to use his legs, and a WR that can't run a route.But are they good at drafting? Really? I like Ferguson as a player FWIW, and they got him in the 4th a year before LaPorta. I think you mean Schoonmaker, but I see your point. They might have wanted LaPorta, but they didn't need him. The book is still out on Schoonmaker, but they had other areas of immediate need and Ferguson was fine.I don’t really agree with this take on Jerry. He obviously wants to win, he’s just too arrogant to hire a real GM and give up control. If Jerry ONLY cared about valuation, he sure as **** wouldn’t have backed up the Brinks truck to pay Dak. Heck, if he only cared about valuation he would see he’s hurting his by being s control freak.Washington fans know this all too well during the Snyder hell years….I almost feel sorry for you Cowboys fans….almost
Hate to break the news to you, but Josh Harris is another owner who cares more about the teams valuation than he does about winning.
Dak isn’t selling tickets, not anymore. The team is a mess and not really close to contending. Should have let Dak test the open market, traded CeeDee who still can’t run a route, and blown it all up in favor of better years ahead. While I’m on the topic, trade Parsons for a 1st/plus and how does McCarthy still have a job?
Jerry is in over his head as a GM and talent evaluator and it’s getting worse with age. At least Al Davis was known for drafting speed, what’s Jerry known for?
And in the case of Harris, we don’t really know yet and who cares? As long as they’ve got guys like Daniels, it solves both problems.
I mean, you’re probably right about a lot of what you said except the drafting well part.
They have drafted very well. Where they get into trouble is when their pick gets taken from them and they panic (Like when they wanted Laporta and took Ferguson,) and they suck at picking defensive tackles( Mazi) Other than that, they’re pretty damn good.
Anyway, looking through their drafts in recent history, I see a lot of misses and a lot of drafting of incomplete players with flashy and sometimes elite singular traits. These players' weaknesses are quickly exposed by the NFL. They need to be drafting some boring but complete players that can be long term contributors to a winning franchise.
Thanks, yeah I meant Shoonmaker.
Everybody has misses but I think they do pretty well at talent evaluation.
This team doomed itself when it let Dak throw for 5000 yards, which were all hollow, then they were forced to pay him.
They need to move on or cut his pay substantially
Things are going to get a whole lot worse over the next few years unless they have multiple lights out perfect drafts, along with a strong minded and disciplined coaching staff. In other words, America's team is due for an epic reckoning and it's coming, like it or not.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Rumor is that they're laying down for Arch Manning. This year is over, so have to think they'll try and rebuild the lines in this draft then hope they're in play for Arch in '26. Raiders would probably be dumb enough to take Dak off their hands.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Doubtful, Jerry can't see past his nose, let alone try to plan for what's to come 2 years from now.
But if true, Dak's contract is all that much more mind boggling. Also if true, they should be selling everyone right now, including Micah. It's too bad they're stuck with CeeDee, he's part of the problem, not the solution. Pretty much everyone needs to go that they can get rid of for a decent price and some for next to nothing just to lighten the load on their cap. If you're going to tank, tank.
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
It's the NFL. Cowboys will probably find to win.
