2024 Summer of Soccer - Euro's, Copa America, Olympics, WCQing (3 Viewers)

[El Floppo]

And Richards completed a pass!

2 yards to ream with nobody near him

 

[gianmarco]

Balogun has a fire lit tonight.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Balogun making a great case for the folks who want us to play a 4-4-2. He's immediately a millions miles more dangerous when we're not pushing everything down the wings. Balogun with CP playing off him might be $$. And it would let you have Reyna and McKennie in the midfield with a pair of mids behind them (have a seat Tim).

 

[The Z Machine]

Turner didn't play that goal well. That was at least part on him. An elite goalie stops that shot.

 

[massraider]

He squared him up and drilled him - dangerous play

Way more violent than Weah's for sure. But Weah didn't make it plausible.

Weah went to the head, that was the dumb part. Well, the extra dumb part.

After the GT was wiped out, I wanted to punch someone as well, but you can't do that.

 

[The Z Machine]

Balogun making a great case for the folks who want us to play a 4-4-2. He's immediately a millions miles more dangerous when we're not pushing everything down the wings. Balogun with CP playing off him might be $$. And it would let you have Reyna and McKennie in the midfield with a pair of mids behind them (have a seat Tim).

4-4-2 is outdated but it really suits our players. No other formation puts the best talent on the field in their best positons.

 

[AAABatteries]

Does our coach not instruct the players what offsides is? This is amateur hour.

Some teams and usually players will live on the offside trap line. Balogun is one of those guys from my somewhat limited watching him. I’d be more ok with it if we had the team/style to send him in with passes but that’s not really us.

 

[El Floppo]

Turner didn't play that goal well. That was at least part on him. An elite goalie stops that shot.

I dunno. Ball bouncing around, Megs Richards and nips the post. Solid shot and would've taken a hell of a save. Not on Turner there.

 

[NewlyRetired]

+6?

They took forever on the red card and Turner was hurt for a long time

 

[gianmarco]

Dumber red card?

Dest or Weah?

Easily Dest, IMO. Weah was an idiot but if he pushed out like that half a foot lower he probably isn’t sent off. He deserved it but wasn’t as dumb as Dest.

Situation matters too.

I don't think the Dest red hurt us as much as this one might...

 

[El Floppo]

Does our coach not instruct the players what offsides is? This is amateur hour.

Some teams and usually players will live on the offside trap line. Balogun is one of those guys from my somewhat limited watching him. I’d be more ok with it if we had the team/style to send him in with passes but that’s not really us.

He was money his first season in France doing exactly that.

 

[El Floppo]

Dumber red card?

Dest or Weah?

Easily Dest, IMO. Weah was an idiot but if he pushed out like that half a foot lower he probably isn’t sent off. He deserved it but wasn’t as dumb as Dest.

Situation matters too.

I don't think the Dest red hurt us as much as this one might...

Very true. Hoping the might stays might.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Dumber red card?

Dest or Weah?

Easily Dest, IMO. Weah was an idiot but if he pushed out like that half a foot lower he probably isn’t sent off. He deserved it but wasn’t as dumb as Dest.

Dest was a 10 on the dumb scale.

Weah was a solid 8 given there are cameras covering every inch of the field.

 

[General Malaise]

Does our coach not instruct the players what offsides is? This is amateur hour.

Some teams and usually players will live on the offside trap line. Balogun is one of those guys from my somewhat limited watching him. I’d be more ok with it if we had the team/style to send him in with passes but that’s not really us.

The goal that got wiped out was just a dumb violation. Could (and should) have been called a 2nd time and the 3rd violation is just head scratching to me.

 

[General Malaise]

+6?

They took forever on the red card and Turner was hurt for a long time

Yeah, I know. I guessed with 6...it was 5. I'm watching.

 

[AAABatteries]

Dumber red card?

Dest or Weah?

Easily Dest, IMO. Weah was an idiot but if he pushed out like that half a foot lower he probably isn’t sent off. He deserved it but wasn’t as dumb as Dest.

Situation matters too.

I don't think the Dest red hurt us as much as this one might...

Honestly wasn’t factoring situation in - I’d maybe go Weah because I don’t really care about Nations League

 

[NewlyRetired]

Weah has been playing in Concacaf since birth. How did he let himself get suckered like that?

 

[encaitar]

I wonder if playing in top leagues in Europe where fouls are called much closer hurts our young players like Weah and Dest? MLS guys deal with grabbing and pushing every game. These guys don't and this is now the second time it's affected us in a big way.

 

[The Z Machine]

Turner didn't play that goal well. That was at least part on him. An elite goalie stops that shot.

I dunno. Ball bouncing around, Megs Richards and nips the post. Solid shot and would've taken a hell of a save. Not on Turner there.

Nope. It took him too long to read that spot was the only place it could go. He was slow getting to the side and alow getting down.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

So much inconsistency from the ref. If you're going to be bad or call it tight, do it all game... not selectively. I see this one getting ugly.

Weah... so dumb. Just aim lower, don't hit above the shoulders. Still haven't seen anything that could've set him off. The replay of him walking away is telling. He looked pissed and didn't care.

I like the idea of pulisic at the 9. Take of Reyna, add aaronson and play a 5-3-1 or 441.

 

[AAABatteries]

So, let’s assume we can hold out for a point. We then root for a draw in the next match, right? Or do we want Uruguay to win and qualify and possibly rest guys?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Brian Sciaretta

@BrianSciaretta

This tournament was supposed to give the #USMNT a chance to push itself outside of CONCACAF. Instead, the #USMNT is playing in the most CONCACAF game ever

 

[The Z Machine]

Turner didn't play that goal well. That was at least part on him. An elite goalie stops that shot.

I dunno. Ball bouncing around, Megs Richards and nips the post. Solid shot and would've taken a hell of a save. Not on Turner there.

Nope. It took him too long to read that spot was the only place it could go. He was slow getting to the side and alow getting down.

I think it's more that the CONMEBOL refs aren't calling much in this tournament and letting a lot go.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So much inconsistency from the ref. If you're going to be bad or call it tight, do it all game... not selectively. I see this one getting ugly.

Weah... so dumb. Just aim lower, don't hit above the shoulders. Still haven't seen anything that could've set him off. The replay of him walking away is telling. He looked pissed and didn't care.

I like the idea of pulisic at the 9. Take of Reyna, add aaronson and play a 5-3-1 or 441.

He punched the Panama player in the back of the head. It was an easy red card for ref once he saw the right angle.

 

[encaitar]

Turner didn't play that goal well. That was at least part on him. An elite goalie stops that shot.

I dunno. Ball bouncing around, Megs Richards and nips the post. Solid shot and would've taken a hell of a save. Not on Turner there.

Nope. It took him too long to read that spot was the only place it could go. He was slow getting to the side and alow getting down.

I think it's more that the CONMEBOL refs aren't calling much in this tournament and letting a lot go.

This is Ivan Barton. He's a CONCACAF guy. Last year he reffed the US/Mexico semifinal game and he let that game become almost a bloodbath if you remember. This is his MO. He's pretty lax on calling fouls, or at least has been in the US games he's reffed. Teams like Mexico and now Panama obviously take advantage of that.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So, let’s assume we can hold out for a point. We then root for a draw in the next match, right? Or do we want Uruguay to win and qualify and possibly rest guys?

Our best path right now is going for 5 points and ignore the result from later tonight.

If we lose, we are in big trouble. We have to beat Uruguay and pray Panama does not get a big win against Bolivia, which is certainly possible.

 

[SpurrierisisGod]

So much inconsistency from the ref. If you're going to be bad or call it tight, do it all game... not selectively. I see this one getting ugly.

Weah... so dumb. Just aim lower, don't hit above the shoulders. Still haven't seen anything that could've set him off. The replay of him walking away is telling. He looked pissed and didn't care.

I like the idea of pulisic at the 9. Take of Reyna, add aaronson and play a 5-3-1 or 441.

He punched the Panama player in the back of the head. It was an easy red card for ref once he saw the right angle.

Not disputing that... if he hits him between the shoulder blades it's a yellow most likely. Above the shoulders insta red.

But no call on the keeper collision.... no yellow on the 3 fouls in one play, etc. Don't be a card bada** then not pull it when you should.

 

[encaitar]

5-3-1. We'll see if that changes the defensive work.

 

[TripleThreat]

I don’t necessarily agree with Reyna coming out. So creative

 

[AAABatteries]

I don’t necessarily agree with Reyna coming out. So creative

Is that you, Claudio?

 

[The Z Machine]

Not a fan of these subs or the formation.

 

[NewlyRetired]

I don’t necessarily agree with Reyna coming out. So creative

This is survive or die. Very little chance for creativity.

 

[NewlyRetired]

it is ironic but we need to Concacaf the **** out of this..

 

[CletiusMaximus]

So, let’s assume we can hold out for a point. We then root for a draw in the next match, right? Or do we want Uruguay to win and qualify and possibly rest guys?

I'm terrible at this, but it seems to me they are going to thump Bolivia by 4 or 5 tonight. Panama will win on Monday for sure. If we draw tonight, we will have to at least draw with Uruguay on Monday and then hope our measly +2 gd holds up. Again, for me its all on Pepe missing those sitters.

 

[bagger]

I don’t understand why they didn’t immediately put 5 in the back after going up 1-0.

 

[El Floppo]

5-3-1... Just hoping to hang onto a tie?

I don't like it. Really hope to be wrong, but this doesn't set them up for anything in the opposing third.

 

[NewlyRetired]

So, let’s assume we can hold out for a point. We then root for a draw in the next match, right? Or do we want Uruguay to win and qualify and possibly rest guys?

I'm terrible at this, but it seems to me they are going to thump Bolivia by 4 or 5 tonight. Panama will win on Monday for sure. If we draw tonight, we will have to at least draw with Uruguay on Monday and then hope our measly +2 gd holds up. Again, for me its all on Pepe missing those sitters.

If we get to 5 points, Panama can't..

 

[NewlyRetired]

5-3-1... Just hoping to hang onto a tie?

I don't like it. Really hope to be wrong, but this doesn't set them up for anything in the opposing third.

Yeah, GGG is going with game theory. The best chance to advance is with 5 points.

I don't see the US holding on the whole half for a point though.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The Turner sub was important because that limits the ability to change if we let in a goal.

 

[TripleThreat]

I don’t necessarily agree with Reyna coming out. So creative

This is survive or die. Very little chance for creativity.

I believe he would give them a chance for a moment of brilliance. He’s played defensive as of late and don’t view him as a liability in that role. Do you?

 

[McBokonon]

so stupid. Weah could have just cost GGG his job

On the other hand, if we win after going a man down, it will be a testament to GGG's man management and tactical prowess and he could be named manager for life.

 

[The Gator]

5-3-1... Just hoping to hang onto a tie?

I don't like it. Really hope to be wrong, but this doesn't set them up for anything in the opposing third.

Yeah, GGG is going with game theory. The best chance to advance is with 5 points.

I don't see the US holding on the whole half for a point though.

I'm not up to snuff on our player personnel, do we have the wheels to counter attack?

Can't just sit and absorb pressure, hopefully we can pop the top off and counter a few times.

If Panama is going to keep four defenders back behind our one forward, that's a plus too

 

[NewlyRetired]

I don’t necessarily agree with Reyna coming out. So creative

This is survive or die. Very little chance for creativity.

I believe he would give them a chance for a moment of brilliance. He’s played defensive as of late and don’t view him as a liability in that role. Do you?

I thought Reyna played hard defensively in the first half but looking at the formation and tactics, I think he would be minimized.

 

[The Z Machine]

He’s played defensive as of late and don’t view him as a liability in that role

He's absolutely a defensive liability compared to Johnny IMO.

 

[encaitar]

That's a red for diving.

 

[NewlyRetired]

that is NOT a pk

 

[AAABatteries]

Carter-Vickers with two really stupid challenges - whether this stays a penalty or not

 

[The Gator]

yellow for stimulation imo

 

[gianmarco]

No way that's a penalty.

 

[TripleThreat]

HUGE CALL