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A-List Celebrity To Be Outed As A Sexual Predator (1 Viewer)

Zow said:
I don't do much civil work but my understanding is that, unlike a plea agreement in the criminal, a civil settlement does not require an admission of liability or even that a trier of fact could possibly find liability if he matter had proceeded to trial. 
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Virtually all settlements expressly deny any admission of liability.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Can someone sign a NDA that would hold up in court to not disclose murder/rape/other violent crimes?  can a lawyer answer that?
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Looks like some guys from Stroock wrote an article about that.  I think they kind of bury an important consideration, which is that even if such an agreement didn't amount to obstruction of justice or witness tampering, I think it would very likely be found unenforceable for being against the public policy in most states. 

 
With playing the name game and legal tallk has it not been mentioned that with every passing day names are withheld, children are still being potentially  raped? 

Sad 

 
NCCommish said:
So 7 days later. We must have different ideas on what soon means. The Coreys have pushed this narrative a long time. The one still alive refuses to name anyone. While I find it easy to believe there are pedophiles in Hollywood, just like in say banking, I find it hard to believe there is a ring of them raping young boys for decades, many of whom go on to be powerful in the industry in their own right, and it's never been exposed. it's not how people work. The more people who know the less likely a secret is to be kept. Especially in this age of instant look at me.
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Young wannabe starlets were preyed upon sexually for decades in Hollywood and I'm sure it continues to a large extent today. It doesn't seem much of a stretch to think it is happening to teenage men as well with regularity.

 
Is it just me or is there some weird line to cross when you accuse someone of something years ago.  I am not saying this particular case that it did or didnt happen just that when someone gets of accused of something like this from a long time ago there really is no defense for that person.  Sure I believe the bulk of accusations probably are true but you have to figure there are def some false claims scattered in there.  Just feels a bit odd to me.

 
pantherclub said:
Is it just me or is there some weird line to cross when you accuse someone of something years ago.  I am not saying this particular case that it did or didnt happen just that when someone gets of accused of something like this from a long time ago there really is no defense for that person.  Sure I believe the bulk of accusations probably are true but you have to figure there are def some false claims scattered in there.  Just feels a bit odd to me.
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Considering Spacey isn’t denying and the guy was 14 years old I don’t find it odd at all - I find it creepy as hell and inappropriate and Spacey appears to deserve anything that is about to happen to him. 

 
pantherclub said:
Is it just me or is there some weird line to cross when you accuse someone of something years ago.  I am not saying this particular case that it did or didnt happen just that when someone gets of accused of something like this from a long time ago there really is no defense for that person.  Sure I believe the bulk of accusations probably are true but you have to figure there are def some false claims scattered in there.  Just feels a bit odd to me.
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I’d imagine if this is the only allegation he ever faces, the fact that it can’t be proven will allow Spacey to survive.  

Typically when multiple people come out, that’s when it’s a different story.  

 
AAABatteries said:
Considering Spacey isn’t denying and the guy was 14 years old I don’t find it odd at all - I find it creepy as hell and inappropriate and Spacey appears to deserve anything that is about to happen to him. 
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I found it extremely odd that he referenced drunken behavior.  He doesn’t remember it, but then admits to being drunk?  Then quickly says “oh btw I’m a gay man”.  Very odd statement.

 
shader said:
I found it extremely odd that he referenced drunken behavior.  He doesn’t remember it, but then admits to being drunk?  Then quickly says “oh btw I’m a gay man”.  Very odd statement.
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I meant I don’t find it odd that the Rapp is speaking out now.

 
shader said:
I found it extremely odd that he referenced drunken behavior.  He doesn’t remember it, but then admits to being drunk?  Then quickly says “oh btw I’m a gay man”.  Very odd statement.
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To your point though - it is an odd statement and I’m surprised he didn’t just deny everything.

 
General Malaise said:
In Corey Feldman's 2013 book Coreyography, he explains the abuse Corey Haim experienced during the filming of Lucas. Allegedly one of the adult men on the set of the film convinced Haim that it was "normal for older men and younger boys in the business to have sexual relations". Haim and the man walked off and went between two trailers on the set and Haim let the man sodomize him. Feldman also says the man who did this is still alive and is one of the most successful people in the industry
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Not sure Spacey fits this profile...Spacey's first role listed on IMDB was "Subway Thief" in Heartburn, which also came out in 1986.

 
pantherclub said:
Is it just me or is there some weird line to cross when you accuse someone of something years ago.  I am not saying this particular case that it did or didnt happen just that when someone gets of accused of something like this from a long time ago there really is no defense for that person.  Sure I believe the bulk of accusations probably are true but you have to figure there are def some false claims scattered in there.  Just feels a bit odd to me.
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It’s certainly not just you. Lawyers for catholic archdiocese have become experts at using different versions of this argument over the past 20 years or so. If the adult accuser is a bit down on his luck, behind on bills, substance issues, they can make some hay with the, “why are you just raising this now?” defense. 

 
CletiusMaximus said:
It’s certainly not just you. Lawyers for catholic archdiocese have become experts at using different versions of this argument over the past 20 years or so. If the adult accuser is a bit down on his luck, behind on bills, substance issues, they can make some hay with the, “why are you just raising this now?” defense. 
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Yeah, no, I wasnt really trying to go there with that

 
Not sure Spacey's publicist did him any favors with this thing.  He should have just said that he has had issues in the past and cannot deny that the allegations.  He should then have apologized to the guy he abused and anyone else who he may have sexually molested.  He could then have continued on with how he has changed from 25-30 years ago and how he believes he would never do such a thing again.  This assumes that there aren't any skeletons in the closet from recent events.  

He could have come out of the closet with a subsequent post.  To mesh the abuse, drunkeness and coming out together just makes him look like a piece of #### (not saying he isn't a piece of #### but just saying that he looks even worse of a piece of ####). 

 
shader said:
I found it extremely odd that he referenced drunken behavior.  He doesn’t remember it, but then admits to being drunk?  Then quickly says “oh btw I’m a gay man”.  Very odd statement.
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The first part doesnt seem crazy on its own. He was probably drunk at those parties pretty much every time, probably high plenty too. The quickly throwing out "I'm gay" is what really reeks here. It is clear deflection and unfortunately adds fuel to the fire of a lot of stereotypes. 

 
kentric said:
Not sure Spacey's publicist did him any favors with this thing.  He should have just said that he has had issues in the past and cannot deny that the allegations.  He should then have apologized to the guy he abused and anyone else who he may have sexually molested.  He could then have continued on with how he has changed from 25-30 years ago and how he believes he would never do such a thing again.  This assumes that there aren't any skeletons in the closet from recent events.  

He could have come out of the closet with a subsequent post.  To mesh the abuse, drunkeness and coming out together just makes him look like a piece of #### (not saying he isn't a piece of #### but just saying that he looks even worse of a piece of ####). 
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To anyone who pays attention it is a bad move but the vast majority of people don't really pay attention. They seem some blurb out there about him trying to #### a 14 year old and also see oh, he's coming out as gay. They then move on to the next thing that catches their eye, a few days go by and someone mentions Kevin Spacey and they think, oh yeah big deal I read he is out of the closet. I think it probably ends up working well for him with one large caveat. If others come out to accuse him, he is probably sunk. According to Rosie O'Donnell, sounds likely so at the end of the day this is probably a band aid on a bullet wound.

 
kentric said:
Not sure Spacey's publicist did him any favors with this thing.  He should have just said that he has had issues in the past and cannot deny that the allegations.  He should then have apologized to the guy he abused and anyone else who he may have sexually molested.  He could then have continued on with how he has changed from 25-30 years ago and how he believes he would never do such a thing again.  This assumes that there aren't any skeletons in the closet from recent events.  

He could have come out of the closet with a subsequent post.  To mesh the abuse, drunkeness and coming out together just makes him look like a piece of #### (not saying he isn't a piece of #### but just saying that he looks even worse of a piece of ####). 
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Ah, but you've missed the genius here. Most of the original headlines for this were something along the lines of "Actor Kevin Spacey Come Out After Allegations Of Sexual Harassment."

The emphasis of those headlines was clearly on the coming out part rather than the sexual assault allegation. 

Unfortunately for Spacey, the LGBT community isn't too thrilled with how Spacey essentially connected being gay with assaulting an underage boy, and those headlines are disappearing and being replaced with much more critical ones.

 
E-Z Glider said:
This is my guess. I have a friend of a friend (straight maie) who claims to have had a very creepy run-in with him one time. Says Spacey wanted to have his way with him and was very aggressive and made it super uncomfortable to be around him. I think about it every time I see him. 

I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Travolta, Cruise, etc swing both ways, but that doesn't make them a sexual predator. Spacey seems more like that type to me.
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Who gets outed next for sexual assualt? I'm going with John Travolta, I don't think John is necessarily into little boys but there have been multiple reports about unwanted sexual contact by him towards male masseurs in the past. 

 
Snickers said:
Who gets outed next for sexual assualt? I'm going with John Travolta, I don't think John is necessarily into little boys but there have been multiple reports about unwanted sexual contact by him towards male masseurs in the past. 
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I'd lump Cruise into that group. I suspect that the Church of Scientology is likely all hands on deck doing whatever shady things that they do behind the scenes to protect their guys.

 
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