Americans dress like slobs compared to the rest of the world (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

I also have a pair of SWIMS, and man these are a guilty pleasure. Waterproof, you can walk along the beach, hose them down, and wear them to dinner.

I've been looking for something like this for Maui next month. Thanks

I like those.

 

[Ilov80s]

If I am within sprinting distance of a body of water, flip flops are OK for me. Otherwise, I would never. Flip flops in any restaurant are, to me, like wearing Crocs to a wedding.

I won't wear them out. I have nice soft leather sandals, that look great with linen or khaki pants.

I also have a pair of SWIMS, and man these are a guilty pleasure. Waterproof, you can walk along the beach, hose them down, and wear them to dinner.

Shoes are always the sticking point for me and where I struggle the most. This was the issue for me in other threads like the driving shoes thread and others. I think most shoes are UGLY, and I just write it off as a me problem. I am sure those shoes are comfy and are the style now, but you couldn't get me to wear them out, let alone pay $150-200 for them. If I am being honest, it's the socks/shoes part that prevents me from doing more than my jeans and Opeth shirts on a daily basis because I can just wear my tennis shoes. I put on brown pants, I have to worry about what else to wear and it's either or when I see what I am "supposed to" wear with it. I am not going full Dad/old man and wearing tennis shoes with Dockers, I hate most other shoes, so....

I agree with most of that. A good simple boot works well for me. Also, clean and plain “tennis shoes” are totally acceptable with dress pants now. This is good for the summer.

 

[FiredMartz]

I always wear a baseball cap everywhere.....been a cap cripple since I lost hair at 30.....will switch to Derby hats at weddings and nice restaurants

 

[massraider]

my point is that if you are having to walk you won't be wearing flops or crocs

Not directed as a response to you, apologies if you thought so.

In reading this thread, I am realizing not everyone knows that women notice shoes, and they can tell the difference between cheap and decent shoes.

A guy can wear a plain white tee, jeans and shoes, and be well-dressed. Does the shirt fit? Is there not massive label across the front of it? Are his jeans of a decent quality, that fit, without a saggy butt? Are his shoes not from Aldo?

Well-dressed.

 

[JohnnyU]

I always wear a baseball cap everywhere.....been a cap cripple since I lost hair at 30.....will switch to Derby hats at weddings and nice restaurants

You should welcome your baldness. Women love confident men.

 

[Joe Bryant]

When I was a young lad, my fathers' rule was simple. "If you go indoors, take your hat off."
I think before I was about 10 yrs old, the only time I saw him wear a hat indoors was at the
cattle auctions ( barns don't count as being indoors), He would take his hat off in FleetFarm.

Freshman Orientation at the University of Tennessee in 1983.

Auditorium full of probably 200 people.

I was wearing a baseball cap.

Administrator opens the presentation and says, "Before we start, Son, what's your name and where are you from?" and points to me.

I think he must be impressed somehow and I say. "My name's Joe Bryant and I'm from Amarillo, Texas.".

He said, "That's nice. I don't know how they do things at the University of Texas, but at the University of Tennessee when you're inside you take your hat off. Now take your hat off and we'll get started."

I know college is different today.

But they set a pretty clear line in the first 5 minutes at UT for me.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I also have a pair of SWIMS, and man these are a guilty pleasure. Waterproof, you can walk along the beach, hose them down, and wear them to dinner.

I've been looking for something like this for Maui next month. Thanks

Nothing screams Maui tourist like SWIMS. Those will be perfect.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I agree, it’s embarrassing. When jeans and no hat are considered getting really dressed up, it’s sad.

I'm a full slob by this thread's standards 90% of the time time (Mariners cap and metal shirt is my uniform), but will still put a little effort in if going somewhere and agree with you guys. I started seeing jeans and a T-shirt at weddings years ago and started to old man grumble.

When it is most notable is the mis-matched couples, and guys it's never the ladies that are the slob in the couple. Woman looking nice and dressed up, yokel she came with rocking shorts and a cap or some nonsense. Take 10 mins and get your crap together, dammit.

It's really strange when you see a couple so mismatched like that. On Mothers Day, I went for a walk in my town and saw families going to restaurants for brunch. One woman, probably mid 30s looked very cute, was all dressed up. Hair, nails, make-up, the works. Little daughter maybe in 1st grade or so also in a dress I think. Dad is smoking a cig, has baggy basketball shorts, flip flops, white tshirt that needed to be replaced 2 months ago, Lions hat, sloppy beard. I always wonder, is this just how they have always been and the wife is chill about it? Doesn't care what he wears? Or am I seeing this guy totally giving up on his marriage and looking to throw in the towel on it?

Maybe others disagree, but to me, it makes sense when going out to kind of match the vibe of the others you are with.

My reaction is different. I usually think “wow, it’s sad to see how insecure that woman is that she feels the need to dress up to get external validation.”

 

[CGRdrJoe]

I wear a uniform all day at work m-f, when i’m off I want to be in comfortable clothing. I don’t need to be a HEY LOOK AT ME person.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I wear a uniform all day at work m-f, when i’m off I want to be in comfortable clothing. I don’t need to be a HEY LOOK AT ME person.

Sure, there is some :style: that's "look at me". But lots of dressing well is the opposite of that.

 

[Ilov80s]

I wear a uniform all day at work m-f, when i’m off I want to be in comfortable clothing. I don’t need to be a HEY LOOK AT ME person.

Sure, there is some :style: that's "look at me". But lots of dressing well is the opposite of that.

Yeah, I don't consider myself very flashy either. Stick to mostly solid colors. My more casual clothing is actually the stuff that's usually a little more colorful actually.

 

[Ilov80s]

I agree, it’s embarrassing. When jeans and no hat are considered getting really dressed up, it’s sad.

I'm a full slob by this thread's standards 90% of the time time (Mariners cap and metal shirt is my uniform), but will still put a little effort in if going somewhere and agree with you guys. I started seeing jeans and a T-shirt at weddings years ago and started to old man grumble.

When it is most notable is the mis-matched couples, and guys it's never the ladies that are the slob in the couple. Woman looking nice and dressed up, yokel she came with rocking shorts and a cap or some nonsense. Take 10 mins and get your crap together, dammit.

It's really strange when you see a couple so mismatched like that. On Mothers Day, I went for a walk in my town and saw families going to restaurants for brunch. One woman, probably mid 30s looked very cute, was all dressed up. Hair, nails, make-up, the works. Little daughter maybe in 1st grade or so also in a dress I think. Dad is smoking a cig, has baggy basketball shorts, flip flops, white tshirt that needed to be replaced 2 months ago, Lions hat, sloppy beard. I always wonder, is this just how they have always been and the wife is chill about it? Doesn't care what he wears? Or am I seeing this guy totally giving up on his marriage and looking to throw in the towel on it?

Maybe others disagree, but to me, it makes sense when going out to kind of match the vibe of the others you are with.

My reaction is different. I usually think “wow, it’s sad to see how insecure that woman is that she feels the need to dress up to get external validation.”

Yeah we just see it totally different view. To me it's a matter of self respect. Though, I fully admit, I am the type of person that likes going out, being social, etc. I am a firm believer in the old Deion adage "Look good, feel good. Feel good, play good."

 

[nirad3]

my point is that if you are having to walk you won't be wearing flops or crocs

Whoops. I went to my son's Cub Scouts meeting this morning in my usual flip-flops and instead of sitting around messin' around on my cell phone I decided to get some steps in. 3500 of them. Probably not good for my feet/legs but I'm in a steps contest and gotta get 'em in wherever I can!

 

[culdeus]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

 

[bigbottom]

I agree, it’s embarrassing. When jeans and no hat are considered getting really dressed up, it’s sad.

I'm a full slob by this thread's standards 90% of the time time (Mariners cap and metal shirt is my uniform), but will still put a little effort in if going somewhere and agree with you guys. I started seeing jeans and a T-shirt at weddings years ago and started to old man grumble.

When it is most notable is the mis-matched couples, and guys it's never the ladies that are the slob in the couple. Woman looking nice and dressed up, yokel she came with rocking shorts and a cap or some nonsense. Take 10 mins and get your crap together, dammit.

It's really strange when you see a couple so mismatched like that. On Mothers Day, I went for a walk in my town and saw families going to restaurants for brunch. One woman, probably mid 30s looked very cute, was all dressed up. Hair, nails, make-up, the works. Little daughter maybe in 1st grade or so also in a dress I think. Dad is smoking a cig, has baggy basketball shorts, flip flops, white tshirt that needed to be replaced 2 months ago, Lions hat, sloppy beard. I always wonder, is this just how they have always been and the wife is chill about it? Doesn't care what he wears? Or am I seeing this guy totally giving up on his marriage and looking to throw in the towel on it?

Maybe others disagree, but to me, it makes sense when going out to kind of match the vibe of the others you are with.

My reaction is different. I usually think “wow, it’s sad to see how insecure that woman is that she feels the need to dress up to get external validation.”

I can’t recall ever having that reaction to a woman who was dressed nicely with her hair and make-up looking nice, much less one that was going to a Mother’s Day brunch.

 

[massraider]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

I was like , oh man, what is that, then I looked. Then I saw an entire article about these hats, and I was like, nice, someone gonna rag on the baseball cap look. Then I see it's a Ringer article from a guy who is not bothered by baseball caps when there is not a game going on, but that these guys are horning in on HIS look, where he then describes how he adds a 'splash of color' to an outfit with a logo baseball cap.




seriously, dismantle this Ringer website.

 

[Ilov80s]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

It's fine. I am actually a lot less bothered by hats. There's certainly some restaurants and events I would never wear a hat...though if I lost my hair, I may feel different. My dad went bald in his 30s and it's rare to see him without a hat. Pretty much only weddings at this point.

 

[KarmaPolice]

If I am within sprinting distance of a body of water, flip flops are OK for me. Otherwise, I would never. Flip flops in any restaurant are, to me, like wearing Crocs to a wedding.

I won't wear them out. I have nice soft leather sandals, that look great with linen or khaki pants.

I also have a pair of SWIMS, and man these are a guilty pleasure. Waterproof, you can walk along the beach, hose them down, and wear them to dinner.

Shoes are always the sticking point for me and where I struggle the most. This was the issue for me in other threads like the driving shoes thread and others. I think most shoes are UGLY, and I just write it off as a me problem. I am sure those shoes are comfy and are the style now, but you couldn't get me to wear them out, let alone pay $150-200 for them. If I am being honest, it's the socks/shoes part that prevents me from doing more than my jeans and Opeth shirts on a daily basis because I can just wear my tennis shoes. I put on brown pants, I have to worry about what else to wear and it's either or when I see what I am "supposed to" wear with it. I am not going full Dad/old man and wearing tennis shoes with Dockers, I hate most other shoes, so....

I agree with most of that. A good simple boot works well for me. Also, clean and plain “tennis shoes” are totally acceptable with dress pants now. This is good for the summer.

What I landed on was THESE for a change of pace. I have couple different colors now.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?

I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.

I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:

What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?

I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.

Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messenger

Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.

My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.

My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.

ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.

 

[KarmaPolice]

I agree, it’s embarrassing. When jeans and no hat are considered getting really dressed up, it’s sad.

I'm a full slob by this thread's standards 90% of the time time (Mariners cap and metal shirt is my uniform), but will still put a little effort in if going somewhere and agree with you guys. I started seeing jeans and a T-shirt at weddings years ago and started to old man grumble.

When it is most notable is the mis-matched couples, and guys it's never the ladies that are the slob in the couple. Woman looking nice and dressed up, yokel she came with rocking shorts and a cap or some nonsense. Take 10 mins and get your crap together, dammit.

It's really strange when you see a couple so mismatched like that. On Mothers Day, I went for a walk in my town and saw families going to restaurants for brunch. One woman, probably mid 30s looked very cute, was all dressed up. Hair, nails, make-up, the works. Little daughter maybe in 1st grade or so also in a dress I think. Dad is smoking a cig, has baggy basketball shorts, flip flops, white tshirt that needed to be replaced 2 months ago, Lions hat, sloppy beard. I always wonder, is this just how they have always been and the wife is chill about it? Doesn't care what he wears? Or am I seeing this guy totally giving up on his marriage and looking to throw in the towel on it?

Maybe others disagree, but to me, it makes sense when going out to kind of match the vibe of the others you are with.

My reaction is different. I usually think “wow, it’s sad to see how insecure that woman is that she feels the need to dress up to get external validation.”

I can’t recall ever having that reaction to a woman who was dressed nicely with her hair and make-up looking nice, much less one that was going to a Mother’s Day brunch.

I found that odd as well. 100% there are those type of people, and they aren't hard to spot either - making a big deal about what they are wearing, taking pics, etc..

IMO it's far more likely that the person just feels that day or event is "different" and is putting in a little more effort. Even if it is a bit of that "look at me" going on, on a day like Mother's Day if your wife or mom thought it was important enough to do something different, IMO the proper thing to do is act in kind. I am less judgemental if it's a borderline eating place, it was an impromptu thing, or the whole group is dressed like that. But to me there is no excuse on days like Mother's Day, weddings, funerals, things like that - especially if one of the couple put in said effort and is dressed up.

 

[Joe Bryant]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

It's just a plain baseball hat, right?

 

[KarmaPolice]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

It's fine. I am actually a lot less bothered by hats. There's certainly some restaurants and events I would never wear a hat...though if I lost my hair, I may feel different. My dad went bald in his 30s and it's rare to see him without a hat. Pretty much only weddings at this point.

This is about where I am at. Full on horseshoe at this point, and I am too lazy to maintain a tight cut, so I cap it up and I am rarely seen without one. I also am a hairy beast with chicken legs, so you will rarely catch me in shorts either. One of the parents on my daughter's softball team was giving me **** last year - 95 degree day, heavy humidity, and I am still in my jeans and Opeth shirt. Because it was so hot, at least I switched to my red one instead of black for comfort.

 

[Ilov80s]

Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?

I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.

I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:

What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?

I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.

Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messenger

Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.

My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.

My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.

ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.

That's probably a cultural thing though.

 

[massraider]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

It's fine. I am actually a lot less bothered by hats. There's certainly some restaurants and events I would never wear a hat...though if I lost my hair, I may feel different. My dad went bald in his 30s and it's rare to see him without a hat. Pretty much only weddings at this point.

This is about where I am at. Full on horseshoe at this point, and I am too lazy to maintain a tight cut, so I cap it up and I am rarely seen without one. I also am a hairy beast with chicken legs, so you will rarely catch me in shorts either. One of the parents on my daughter's softball team was giving me **** last year - 95 degree day, heavy humidity, and I am still in my jeans and Opeth shirt. Because it was so hot, at least I switched to my red one instead of black for comfort.

I looked up Opeth on Amazon, but that can’t be right

 

[KarmaPolice]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

It's fine. I am actually a lot less bothered by hats. There's certainly some restaurants and events I would never wear a hat...though if I lost my hair, I may feel different. My dad went bald in his 30s and it's rare to see him without a hat. Pretty much only weddings at this point.

This is about where I am at. Full on horseshoe at this point, and I am too lazy to maintain a tight cut, so I cap it up and I am rarely seen without one. I also am a hairy beast with chicken legs, so you will rarely catch me in shorts either. One of the parents on my daughter's softball team was giving me **** last year - 95 degree day, heavy humidity, and I am still in my jeans and Opeth shirt. Because it was so hot, at least I switched to my red one instead of black for comfort.

I looked up Opeth on Amazon, but that can’t be right

Heavy metal band? Just saying I am either wearing that, Floyd, or some other band t-shirt. Here is the red one I was referring to.

 

[culdeus]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

It's just a plain baseball hat, right?

More or less, but I'm sure whatever one they wear is like $300 or something. I wonder if the logo is the issue, the coloring, or just the hat.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Going to the opening of a friend’s art exhibit at the Honolulu Museum of Modern Art. My outfit? Beige prana climbing pants, Patagonia aloha shirt and Olukai slippers + iWatch. No stains or wrinkles. Toenails clipped and clean.

It’s an inside/outside venue in 85 degree weather. Guests will likely include at least one former mayor.

Fashion police thoughts?

 

[MAC_32]

The school put on a coaches appreciation happy hour Friday. I probably wouldn't have changed anyway, but I didn't have time in the turnaround between work and evening activities and arrived in summer Friday work attire - tucked in polo and jeans. I wasn't prepared for multiple double takes from others who had only ever seen me in track coaching gear.

'Wow...you own a pair of jeans."

 

[Ilov80s]

Going to the opening of a friend’s art exhibit at the Honolulu Museum of Modern Art. My outfit? Beige prana climbing pants, Patagonia aloha shirt and Olukai slippers + iWatch. No stains or wrinkles. Toenails clipped and clean.

It’s an inside/outside venue in 85 degree weather. Guests will likely include at least one former mayor.

Fashion police thoughts?

I don't know the vibe in Hawaii so I couldn't say but it sounds fine to me for a warm day indoor/outdoor event in Hawaii.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Going to the opening of a friend’s art exhibit at the Honolulu Museum of Modern Art. My outfit? Beige prana climbing pants, Patagonia aloha shirt and Olukai slippers + iWatch. No stains or wrinkles. Toenails clipped and clean.

It’s an inside/outside venue in 85 degree weather. Guests will likely include at least one former mayor.

Fashion police thoughts?

Fancy slippahs bra

 

[DA RAIDERS]

And for those saying you can’t walk in flops, my HI relatives would like a word.

 

[fantasy stud]

It is interesting how much our culture has shifted in the last 20 years or so when it comes to how we dress. We have become a much more casual society in general.

 

[bigbottom]

Going to the opening of a friend’s art exhibit at the Honolulu Museum of Modern Art. My outfit? Beige prana climbing pants, Patagonia aloha shirt and Olukai slippers + iWatch. No stains or wrinkles. Toenails clipped and clean.

It’s an inside/outside venue in 85 degree weather. Guests will likely include at least one former mayor.

Fashion police thoughts?

Hawaii goes by its own set of rules. All my male relatives there own at least one nice aloha shirt for when they have to make an appearance in court. (I’m only kind of kidding.)

 

[bigbottom]

Going to the opening of a friend’s art exhibit at the Honolulu Museum of Modern Art. My outfit? Beige prana climbing pants, Patagonia aloha shirt and Olukai slippers + iWatch. No stains or wrinkles. Toenails clipped and clean.

It’s an inside/outside venue in 85 degree weather. Guests will likely include at least one former mayor.

Fashion police thoughts?

Fancy slippahs bra

Where’s my slippah?

 

[Orange&Blue]

All you all hammering hats, what's your thought on the Succession hat style?

wife got me a paddy cap for xmas. I've received lots of compliments.

 

[-OZ-]

If I am within sprinting distance of a body of water, flip flops are OK for me. Otherwise, I would never. Flip flops in any restaurant are, to me, like wearing Crocs to a wedding.

I won't wear them out. I have nice soft leather sandals, that look great with linen or khaki pants.

I also have a pair of SWIMS, and man these are a guilty pleasure. Waterproof, you can walk along the beach, hose them down, and wear them to dinner.

Shoes are always the sticking point for me and where I struggle the most. This was the issue for me in other threads like the driving shoes thread and others. I think most shoes are UGLY, and I just write it off as a me problem. I am sure those shoes are comfy and are the style now, but you couldn't get me to wear them out, let alone pay $150-200 for them. If I am being honest, it's the socks/shoes part that prevents me from doing more than my jeans and Opeth shirts on a daily basis because I can just wear my tennis shoes. I put on brown pants, I have to worry about what else to wear and it's either or when I see what I am "supposed to" wear with it. I am not going full Dad/old man and wearing tennis shoes with Dockers, I hate most other shoes, so....

I agree with most of that. A good simple boot works well for me. Also, clean and plain “tennis shoes” are totally acceptable with dress pants now. This is good for the summer.

What I landed on was THESE for a change of pace. I have couple different colors now.

Those are reasonable but I just a little at $150 swim trunks

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I agree, it’s embarrassing. When jeans and no hat are considered getting really dressed up, it’s sad.

I'm a full slob by this thread's standards 90% of the time time (Mariners cap and metal shirt is my uniform), but will still put a little effort in if going somewhere and agree with you guys. I started seeing jeans and a T-shirt at weddings years ago and started to old man grumble.

When it is most notable is the mis-matched couples, and guys it's never the ladies that are the slob in the couple. Woman looking nice and dressed up, yokel she came with rocking shorts and a cap or some nonsense. Take 10 mins and get your crap together, dammit.

It's really strange when you see a couple so mismatched like that. On Mothers Day, I went for a walk in my town and saw families going to restaurants for brunch. One woman, probably mid 30s looked very cute, was all dressed up. Hair, nails, make-up, the works. Little daughter maybe in 1st grade or so also in a dress I think. Dad is smoking a cig, has baggy basketball shorts, flip flops, white tshirt that needed to be replaced 2 months ago, Lions hat, sloppy beard. I always wonder, is this just how they have always been and the wife is chill about it? Doesn't care what he wears? Or am I seeing this guy totally giving up on his marriage and looking to throw in the towel on it?

Maybe others disagree, but to me, it makes sense when going out to kind of match the vibe of the others you are with.

My reaction is different. I usually think “wow, it’s sad to see how insecure that woman is that she feels the need to dress up to get external validation.”

I can’t recall ever having that reaction to a woman who was dressed nicely with her hair and make-up looking nice, much less one that was going to a Mother’s Day brunch.

I found that odd as well. 100% there are those type of people, and they aren't hard to spot either - making a big deal about what they are wearing, taking pics, etc..

IMO it's far more likely that the person just feels that day or event is "different" and is putting in a little more effort. Even if it is a bit of that "look at me" going on, on a day like Mother's Day if your wife or mom thought it was important enough to do something different, IMO the proper thing to do is act in kind. I am less judgemental if it's a borderline eating place, it was an impromptu thing, or the whole group is dressed like that. But to me there is no excuse on days like Mother's Day, weddings, funerals, things like that - especially if one of the couple put in said effort and is dressed up.

Johnny U actually told us he doesn’t want to be in a suit for his own funeral. Just an interesting side note.

Look, the reality is I don’t care what other people wear. Obviously my comment was an absurd extreme opposite. My wife looks great dressed to the nines. She looks great when she’s going for a 3-mile run. She almost never wears makeup — doesn’t need to. To each their own.

 

[Doug B]

(Just an aside: I wish someone made those “sneaker dress shoes” with black soles instead of white. I guess the point is to display that the shoe is totally a sneaker, though.)

 

[Mjolnirs]

Genuinely curious as to why here. Is it just a "because that's the way it's always been" thing?

Get the hell out of here with there being any sort of dress code at fast food joints

I'm not saying my father was a strict military type guy, but he was in the Marine Corp Reserves when I was very young, then the Air Force Reserves later. I'm going to say it stems from that. The military has regulations on when to cover and when to uncover. My dad didn't teach me to take my hat off indoors, but in a restaurant, absolutely. I have long hair and definitely get "hat head" if I am wearing one, but I would rather eat with "hat head" hair than a hat on.

One of my best friends is retired Navy. We worked together and would occasionally grab lunch together. He would grab his ballcap as we would head out, and put it on once outside the building. Then we would walk across the street to BK, and he would take it off as soon as we entered the building.

When I was a teenager I was loaned out by my parents to help paint the outside of an aunt's house. It was summer in Charleston, therefore hot. I had my shirt off and a hat on while painting. She served up lunch, and I came in and sat at the table ... without my hat, and got lectured on coming to the table without a shirt on. I only made that mistake once.

 

[3 hour lunch]

Funny how this thread seems to have hit a nerve. It’s tough because not only do preferences run the gamut, “nice” means different things to different people. When we dress it up, it’s usually an anniversary, night out in Vegas, etc. Maybe 10 times per year. Sort of want to feel like a sexy person in a sexy place type of thing. I want to see my wife in a nice dress occasionally. I could care less if anyone else sees us, but it’s fun to us. Maybe it’s as much about making an effort when 98% of the time we’re in t shirts. Clearly not everyone feels that way.

 

[TripItUp]

I have more of a problem with poor hygiene and obesity than I do with how people dress.

All of which seem to be getting worse.

 

[SWC]

i think covid where people stayed home got fat and only had to dress up from the waste up for zoom meeting probably didnt help anything and once that genie is out of the bottle and got really fat from covid he cant fit back in the bottle take that to the bank bromigos

 

[Terminalxylem]

I agree, it’s embarrassing. When jeans and no hat are considered getting really dressed up, it’s sad.

I'm a full slob by this thread's standards 90% of the time time (Mariners cap and metal shirt is my uniform), but will still put a little effort in if going somewhere and agree with you guys. I started seeing jeans and a T-shirt at weddings years ago and started to old man grumble.

When it is most notable is the mis-matched couples, and guys it's never the ladies that are the slob in the couple. Woman looking nice and dressed up, yokel she came with rocking shorts and a cap or some nonsense. Take 10 mins and get your crap together, dammit.

It's really strange when you see a couple so mismatched like that. On Mothers Day, I went for a walk in my town and saw families going to restaurants for brunch. One woman, probably mid 30s looked very cute, was all dressed up. Hair, nails, make-up, the works. Little daughter maybe in 1st grade or so also in a dress I think. Dad is smoking a cig, has baggy basketball shorts, flip flops, white tshirt that needed to be replaced 2 months ago, Lions hat, sloppy beard. I always wonder, is this just how they have always been and the wife is chill about it? Doesn't care what he wears? Or am I seeing this guy totally giving up on his marriage and looking to throw in the towel on it?

Maybe others disagree, but to me, it makes sense when going out to kind of match the vibe of the others you are with.

My reaction is different. I usually think “wow, it’s sad to see how insecure that woman is that she feels the need to dress up to get external validation.”

I can’t recall ever having that reaction to a woman who was dressed nicely with her hair and make-up looking nice, much less one that was going to a Mother’s Day brunch.

Never thought that about Mom’s Day specifically, but I often see women really “made up”, and wonder about their self-esteem and/or “maintenance” requirements.

Don’t get me wrong, I can appreciate a beautiful woman as much as the next guy. But there’s a point at which a woman looks too “put together”, and it becomes unattractive. Same goes for cosmetic surgery.

Natural, simple beauty and :style: are best imo.

ETA I’m sure all this can apply to men too, but this phenomenon is much more common among women.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?

I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.

I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:

What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?

I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.

Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messenger

Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.

My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.

My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.

ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.

That's probably a cultural thing though.

Exactly my point. All style is subjective, but the high-end sneaker niche is especially limited to young dudes in cities, and those trying to emulate them.

The rest of the world isn’t impressed, including most members of the opposite sex.

One comparison is designer purses. Some women fawn over them, but nearly no guys care. And despite costing hundred-thousands of $, many look pretty silly to the untrained eye.

Difference is, high-end purses are appealing to a much larger segment of the female population.

 

[Terminalxylem]

And for those saying you can’t walk in flops, my HI relatives would like a word.

Yeah, they have no idea, as “island style” is a genre of its own.

 

[Ilov80s]

Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?

I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.

I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:

What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?

I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.

Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messenger

Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.

My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.

My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.

ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.

That's probably a cultural thing though.

Exactly my point. All style is subjective, but the high-end sneaker niche is especially limited to young dudes in cities, and those trying to emulate them.

The rest of the world isn’t impressed, including most members of the opposite sex.

One comparison is high end purses. Some women fawn over them, but nearly no guys care. And despite costing hundred-thousands of $, many look pretty silly to the untrained eye.

Difference is, high end purses are appealing to a much larger segment of the female population.

I was talking in the Black community. I don’t think I’m able to make any sort of comment on how Black women feel about expensive shoes like Jordans, Yeezys, etc.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?

I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.

I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:

What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?

I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.

Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messenger

Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.

My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.

My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.

ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.

That's probably a cultural thing though.

Exactly my point. All style is subjective, but the high-end sneaker niche is especially limited to young dudes in cities, and those trying to emulate them.

The rest of the world isn’t impressed, including most members of the opposite sex.

One comparison is high end purses. Some women fawn over them, but nearly no guys care. And despite costing hundred-thousands of $, many look pretty silly to the untrained eye.

Difference is, high end purses are appealing to a much larger segment of the female population.

I was talking in the Black community. I don’t think I’m able to make any sort of comment on how Black women feel about expensive shoes like Jordans, Yeezys, etc.

I don’t either. But considering Black women make up like 7% of the US population, I doubt there are huge numbers of them who are into high-end sneakers.

 

[Ilov80s]

Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?

I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.

I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:

What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?

I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.

Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messenger

Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.

My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.

My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.

ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.

That's probably a cultural thing though.

Exactly my point. All style is subjective, but the high-end sneaker niche is especially limited to young dudes in cities, and those trying to emulate them.

The rest of the world isn’t impressed, including most members of the opposite sex.

One comparison is high end purses. Some women fawn over them, but nearly no guys care. And despite costing hundred-thousands of $, many look pretty silly to the untrained eye.

Difference is, high end purses are appealing to a much larger segment of the female population.

I was talking in the Black community. I don’t think I’m able to make any sort of comment on how Black women feel about expensive shoes like Jordans, Yeezys, etc.

I don’t either. But considering Black women make up like 7% of the US population, I doubt there are huge numbers of them who are into high-end sneakers.

Sounds like you do have thoughts on that. I’ll just say my experiences are that shoes- especially sneakers- are very important in the Black community.

 

[JohnnyU]

Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?

I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.

I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:

What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?

I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.

Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messenger

Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.

My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.

My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.

ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.

That's probably a cultural thing though.

Exactly my point. All style is subjective, but the high-end sneaker niche is especially limited to young dudes in cities, and those trying to emulate them.

The rest of the world isn’t impressed, including most members of the opposite sex.

One comparison is high end purses. Some women fawn over them, but nearly no guys care. And despite costing hundred-thousands of $, many look pretty silly to the untrained eye.

Difference is, high end purses are appealing to a much larger segment of the female population.

I was talking in the Black community. I don’t think I’m able to make any sort of comment on how Black women feel about expensive shoes like Jordans, Yeezys, etc.

I don’t either. But considering Black women make up like 7% of the US population, I doubt there are huge numbers of them who are into high-end sneakers.

Sounds like you do have thoughts on that. I’ll just say my experiences are that shoes- especially sneakers- are very important in the Black community.

For some reason I find that humorous. They are tennis shoes!! You could have a new pair in great shape and want to get the next new thing. I suppose that can be said about any clothing items. I for one never looked at sneakers as something I needed to replace on a regular basis, but then again, I'm not part of black culture. I've even read stories of killing over sneakers. Now that isn't funny.

 

[Terminalxylem]

Why are you weirdos looking at people's feet so much?

I can't say I've EVER actually noticed someone's feet at a restaurant before, and that includes 26 years of living in Florida where 90% of footwear is open toed at dinner unless you're at an actual fancy place. Heck, even at fancy places those strap on open-toed heels are very common.

I get complimented on my sneakers almost daily. Mostly by other guys.

I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I’ll ask again. I expect the vast majority of women know little about the shoes you wear, as the sneakerhead niche is mostly young, urban men. With that in mind:

What percentage of your shoe compliments come from women?
Have attractive women ever disliked your footwear?
How many compliments come from older guys, say your age, or older?

I’m only asking about the pricey, athletic footwear, as I think those look about as out-of-place on older dudes as joggers.

Sorry, but women do pay attention to a man's shoes from what I've heard. My wife also told me this, so don't shoot the messenger

Women pay attention to everything; in general, they’re much more detailed, cognizant of fashion and hygiene. I know this.

My question was more about women caring (or even disliking) several hundred/thousand + dollar sneakers.

My guess is the market is mostly about young urban males trying to impress each other with their :style:, while 99% of people outside that demographic couldn’t care less.

ETA Ask your wife what she thinks about Travis Scott Air Jordans - or any Air Jordans on middle aged guys. I’ll wager the best you’ll get is “meh”.

That's probably a cultural thing though.

Exactly my point. All style is subjective, but the high-end sneaker niche is especially limited to young dudes in cities, and those trying to emulate them.

The rest of the world isn’t impressed, including most members of the opposite sex.

One comparison is high end purses. Some women fawn over them, but nearly no guys care. And despite costing hundred-thousands of $, many look pretty silly to the untrained eye.

Difference is, high end purses are appealing to a much larger segment of the female population.

I was talking in the Black community. I don’t think I’m able to make any sort of comment on how Black women feel about expensive shoes like Jordans, Yeezys, etc.

I don’t either. But considering Black women make up like 7% of the US population, I doubt there are huge numbers of them who are into high-end sneakers.

Sounds like you do have thoughts on that. I’ll just say my experiences are that shoes- especially sneakers- are very important in the Black community.

To young males? Sure. I don’t know about AA women, but even if they all love Air whatevs, their opinion doesn’t reflect that of the general population. IMO, the vast, vast majority of people are indifferent to high-end sneakers, at best.

With such a small percentage of the population falling for the marketing, it’s hard to call them particularly stylish. Doesn’t mean they aren’t big business though.