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just don't get a Prius unless you have a g/f or a frequent Whole Foods shopperBy the way, I think I've narrowed it down. I will post a pic when I get the car... I just absolutely hate the car buying process.
just don't get a Prius unless you have a g/f or a frequent Whole Foods shopperBy the way, I think I've narrowed it down. I will post a pic when I get the car... I just absolutely hate the car buying process.
My buddy has a Model S... Simply awesome car, but yeah, the price tag is a bit muchyou got a line on one for $50k? preparing to shell out 90 but not keen on waiting 9 monthstommyGunZ said:The obvious answer is the Model S.
Looking forward to it, JoeT. I am sure you are gonna be having a lot of fun with/in (on?) your new ride.Joe T said:By the way, I think I've narrowed it down. I will post a pic when I get the car... I just absolutely hate the car buying process.
Agreed but not the price point guy is looking for....that's a lot of $ for a car and can he wait 9 months for delivery? out of budget and year wait, mmm...Of course not, but when you add in the reduced fuel costs and the energy rebates, it's much cheaper than 90.you got a line on one for $50k? preparing to shell out 90 but not keen on waiting 9 monthstommyGunZ said:The obvious answer is the Model S.
i had a bmw 330CI in the mountains of colorado. rwd.... now i had a 7 month winter and had winters tires on, but handled great. for the rain all-season were fine, but not snow/ice. it's all about the shoe.I've never had a rear-wheel drive car before, always FWD or AWD. Is handling in rain/snow really bad in the G37 or any of the other RWD luxury cars? I know performance is better, but I had a boss once who said his C Class was worthless in even rain, and snow you just don't drive it. I have nothing here, so let me know. Just looking at the current G37 lease programs, this is definitely the ballpark I'd be looking in, and the car looks like a beast.g37 is my second choice if s5 isn't available. g37 very pedestrian in my city.Had a G35 for 7 years. Great car.I love driving. Hate not having a nice car to drive. Different strokes.These folks know stuff.G37 seems like a nice price/performance niche.
For some of us, driving is a hobby. G37s is supremely fun.
You can lease used cars? I did not know that. Who offers used car leases?Agreed but not the price point guy is looking for....that's a lot of $ for a car and can he wait 9 months for delivery? out of budget and year wait, mmm...Of course not, but when you add in the reduced fuel costs and the energy rebates, it's much cheaper than 90.you got a line on one for $50k? preparing to shell out 90 but not keen on waiting 9 monthstommyGunZ said:The obvious answer is the Model S.
The shark move is to lease or buy a used M5 under book and sell it in a year once Tesla's smaller Model S clone comes out. Expected to retail around $50k and should really eat into that entry luxury market.
Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Otis said:Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.Mr. Pickles said:G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
I got my G35 in December of 2002 when the model style first came out. It had snowed the night before. Roads were clear, but my driveway wasn't. It sat at the bottom of my driveway for 2 days until it melted. Another time I had it in the garage, and I backed out onto my ice covered driveway. The tires had NO traction. I ended up stuck in a little depression in the ice. I literally released the clutch with the car in 1st gear and it idled while spinning the tires. Not even enough traction to stall the engine.FYI for snow if you get winter tires real wheel should be fine. Not great but not awful. It's the stocks on the g37s that suck - they are summer slicks.
That said, its 1000+ more dollars and depending on length of your winter and how you drive it may or may not make you 3 winters.
Did you ask for a refund? I think the Lemon Laws should have covered that kind of incident.I got my G35 in December of 2002 when the model style first came out. It had snowed the night before. Roads were clear, but my driveway wasn't. It sat at the bottom of my driveway for 2 days until it melted. Another time I had it in the garage, and I backed out onto my ice covered driveway. The tires had NO traction. I ended up stuck in a little depression in the ice. I literally released the clutch with the car in 1st gear and it idled while spinning the tires. Not even enough traction to stall the engine.FYI for snow if you get winter tires real wheel should be fine. Not great but not awful. It's the stocks on the g37s that suck - they are summer slicks.
That said, its 1000+ more dollars and depending on length of your winter and how you drive it may or may not make you 3 winters.
Bottom line - and I think this goes for any sports car - If you get winter weather, plan on having winter-appropriate tires, or a 2nd ride.
I had a similar experience... it was the first winter I had the car. I was parked in a Long Island Railroad Parking lot - it was just about totally flat. What I did not realize is that a little black ice had formed. Nothing major at all, we are talking the tiniest bit.I got my G35 in December of 2002 when the model style first came out. It had snowed the night before. Roads were clear, but my driveway wasn't. It sat at the bottom of my driveway for 2 days until it melted. Another time I had it in the garage, and I backed out onto my ice covered driveway. The tires had NO traction. I ended up stuck in a little depression in the ice. I literally released the clutch with the car in 1st gear and it idled while spinning the tires. Not even enough traction to stall the engine.FYI for snow if you get winter tires real wheel should be fine. Not great but not awful. It's the stocks on the g37s that suck - they are summer slicks.
That said, its 1000+ more dollars and depending on length of your winter and how you drive it may or may not make you 3 winters.
Bottom line - and I think this goes for any sports car - If you get winter weather, plan on having winter-appropriate tires, or a 2nd ride.
my bad Shiek, meant to say lease an A5/G37 or buy used M5.TheIronSheik said:You can lease used cars? I did not know that. Who offers used car leases?Agreed but not the price point guy is looking for....that's a lot of $ for a car and can he wait 9 months for delivery? out of budget and year wait, mmm...Of course not, but when you add in the reduced fuel costs and the energy rebates, it's much cheaper than 90.you got a line on one for $50k? preparing to shell out 90 but not keen on waiting 9 monthsThe obvious answer is the Model S.
The shark move is to lease or buy a used M5 under book and sell it in a year once Tesla's smaller Model S clone comes out. Expected to retail around $50k and should really eat into that entry luxury market.
Oh. I was seriously thinking places had used car leases. That doesn't sound like a very smart investment.my bad Shiek, meant to say lease an A5/G37 or buy used M5.TheIronSheik said:You can lease used cars? I did not know that. Who offers used car leases?Agreed but not the price point guy is looking for....that's a lot of $ for a car and can he wait 9 months for delivery? out of budget and year wait, mmm...Of course not, but when you add in the reduced fuel costs and the energy rebates, it's much cheaper than 90.you got a line on one for $50k? preparing to shell out 90 but not keen on waiting 9 monthsThe obvious answer is the Model S.
The shark move is to lease or buy a used M5 under book and sell it in a year once Tesla's smaller Model S clone comes out. Expected to retail around $50k and should really eat into that entry luxury market.
I think my A5 had 260hp, and that's plenty. I learned at some point -- probably watching my wife haul around to play dates in our 400hp X5 -- that horsepower above 300 is pretty much a waste 90% of the time anyway.If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Otis said:Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.Mr. Pickles said:G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
Does your wife know you're gay?I'm a married guy in my 30s, and seriously considering a used Mini Cooper as our second car. I owned a Cooper S at one point, what a great little ride.
She's always had her doubts, but doesn't want to give up the O-lifestyle. Livin' the suburban dream.Does your wife know you're gay?I'm a married guy in my 30s, and seriously considering a used Mini Cooper as our second car. I owned a Cooper S at one point, what a great little ride.
2013 A5 has 211 HP in a 4 cylander engine.I think my A5 had 260hp, and that's plenty. I learned at some point -- probably watching my wife haul around to play dates in our 400hp X5 -- that horsepower above 300 is pretty much a waste 90% of the time anyway.If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Otis said:Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.Mr. Pickles said:G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
Don't you drive a Jeep?2013 A5 has 211 HP in a 4 cylander engine.I think my A5 had 260hp, and that's plenty. I learned at some point -- probably watching my wife haul around to play dates in our 400hp X5 -- that horsepower above 300 is pretty much a waste 90% of the time anyway.If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Otis said:Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.Mr. Pickles said:G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
Obviously that's plenty for just about any driving, but it's really lacking if you want something with power, speed, oomph. The Infiniti has about 330. That's not a marginal difference. 211, simply put, is under powered. It's a coupe, not even a sports coupe. Which for cruising around is fine, but if you are like me and driving is part hobby, then you absolutely miss out on the chance to downshift hard into a turn, pump the gas at the apex and then gun it for some thrills (and there are some great rides on the North Shore to do that with).
Your comments about pumping apexes sounds much gayer than me wanting a mini.2013 A5 has 211 HP in a 4 cylander engine.I think my A5 had 260hp, and that's plenty. I learned at some point -- probably watching my wife haul around to play dates in our 400hp X5 -- that horsepower above 300 is pretty much a waste 90% of the time anyway.If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Otis said:Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.Mr. Pickles said:G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
Obviously that's plenty for just about any driving, but it's really lacking if you want something with power, speed, oomph. The Infiniti has about 330. That's not a marginal difference. 211, simply put, is under powered. It's a coupe, not even a sports coupe. Which for cruising around is fine, but if you are like me and driving is part hobby, then you absolutely miss out on the chance to downshift hard into a turn, pump the gas at the apex and then gun it for some thrills (and there are some great rides on the North Shore to do that with).
Now I do, yes. 5 months in the jeep after 8 years of the Infiniti coupe 6MT/37s.Don't you drive a Jeep?2013 A5 has 211 HP in a 4 cylander engine.I think my A5 had 260hp, and that's plenty. I learned at some point -- probably watching my wife haul around to play dates in our 400hp X5 -- that horsepower above 300 is pretty much a waste 90% of the time anyway.If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Otis said:Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.Mr. Pickles said:G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
Obviously that's plenty for just about any driving, but it's really lacking if you want something with power, speed, oomph. The Infiniti has about 330. That's not a marginal difference. 211, simply put, is under powered. It's a coupe, not even a sports coupe. Which for cruising around is fine, but if you are like me and driving is part hobby, then you absolutely miss out on the chance to downshift hard into a turn, pump the gas at the apex and then gun it for some thrills (and there are some great rides on the North Shore to do that with).
This is an impossibility :Shuke:I had a similar experience... it was the first winter I had the car. I was parked in a Long Island Railroad Parking lot - it was just about totally flat. What I did not realize is that a little black ice had formed. Nothing major at all, we are talking the tiniest bit.I got my G35 in December of 2002 when the model style first came out. It had snowed the night before. Roads were clear, but my driveway wasn't. It sat at the bottom of my driveway for 2 days until it melted. Another time I had it in the garage, and I backed out onto my ice covered driveway. The tires had NO traction. I ended up stuck in a little depression in the ice. I literally released the clutch with the car in 1st gear and it idled while spinning the tires. Not even enough traction to stall the engine.FYI for snow if you get winter tires real wheel should be fine. Not great but not awful. It's the stocks on the g37s that suck - they are summer slicks.
That said, its 1000+ more dollars and depending on length of your winter and how you drive it may or may not make you 3 winters.
Bottom line - and I think this goes for any sports car - If you get winter weather, plan on having winter-appropriate tires, or a 2nd ride.
It took me more than an hour to get out of there at 3am in the morning. Went the next day to get winter tires and never had a significant issue. It was not a "good" snow car, but I drove plenty of times when I shouldn't have and never got fully stuck.
Now I went to a Jeep Wrangler 4 Door, so I can't wait for the snow.
They used to make a v6 in the a5. Now, they only put v6 in the s5 (or so I was told) And it has 300+ hp. The current a5 is certainly not fast, but not that bad either.Your comments about pumping apexes sounds much gayer than me wanting a mini. There must be a V6 available in that car. The V6 version I had was great.2013 A5 has 211 HP in a 4 cylander engine.I think my A5 had 260hp, and that's plenty. I learned at some point -- probably watching my wife haul around to play dates in our 400hp X5 -- that horsepower above 300 is pretty much a waste 90% of the time anyway.If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Otis said:Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.Mr. Pickles said:G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
Obviously that's plenty for just about any driving, but it's really lacking if you want something with power, speed, oomph. The Infiniti has about 330. That's not a marginal difference. 211, simply put, is under powered. It's a coupe, not even a sports coupe. Which for cruising around is fine, but if you are like me and driving is part hobby, then you absolutely miss out on the chance to downshift hard into a turn, pump the gas at the apex and then gun it for some thrills (and there are some great rides on the North Shore to do that with).
apples to oranges IMO. 800 HP in a tank wouldn't be very fun. The X5 weighs 5000+ lbs empty and while I'm sure it handles well for it's size, you're not going to be outcornering any rally cars in it.I think my A5 had 260hp, and that's plenty. I learned at some point -- probably watching my wife haul around to play dates in our 400hp X5 -- that horsepower above 300 is pretty much a waste 90% of the time anyway.If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
My Jeeo has approaching 300hp. No one is confusing it with quick nor fast.apples to oranges IMO. 800 HP in a tank wouldn't be very fun. The X5 weighs 5000+ lbs empty and while I'm sure it handles well for it's size, you're not going to be outcornering any rally cars in it.I drove my friends Audi S5 (333HP/325lb-ft)and it was a great, great car. 260HP is quick but if you're buying a car to drive like you're letting your inner 17 year old out, you want more than 260HP in a car that size.I think my A5 had 260hp, and that's plenty. I learned at some point -- probably watching my wife haul around to play dates in our 400hp X5 -- that horsepower above 300 is pretty much a waste 90% of the time anyway.If we are going apples to apples (ie new car), the A5 is the most sophisticated but well under powered. I was going to go a5 as the next progression after my g37s, but the car has barely over 200hp IIRC. Very nice interior though. The s5 is sweet but way more expensive - as is the M3. For the BMW you'd likely need to to 328, which can't match the performance speed and quicks wise of the inifiniti, but handless exceptionally. Of course around here the BMW comes with the stigma that you are likely a guido, a doosh, a juido (Jewish guido) or some combo of the above.Reasonable choice. I also saw folks recommend the Audi A5 and BMW M3 (used both) earlier in the thread. I've owned both cars, they're both fantastic. Two of the best cars I've ever owned. A single guy in his 30's can't go wrong with either.G37x is AWD. That's how I'd go.
I am likely in the market in the 10-15k range soon. Huge fan of the CTS-V as well. Older, but cheaper.I wanted one of these so bad.Used 2009 Cadillac CTS-V with an extended warranty for about $40k
4 door luxury and faster than just about anything on the road.
Be a man and see what 500hp feels like.
With NOS and lots of decals?Sharps in heavy on a bright red 2013 Mitsubishi Lancer.bump
over/under on the size of the NWO sticker on the back window is 24".With NOS and lots of decals?Sharps in heavy on a bright red 2013 Mitsubishi Lancer.bump
Ended up with the A5. Sorry pickles.Well? Where are we at here?
Ended up with the A5. Sorry pickles.Well? Where are we at here?
Loving it so far though.
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Awesome ride, good playEnded up with the A5. Sorry pickles.Well? Where are we at here?
Loving it so far though.
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Why sorry? Looks great.Ended up with the A5. Sorry pickles.Well? Where are we at here?
Loving it so far though.
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Hmm.. what happened there?45 and now single. Girlfriend is gone and now so is my car.
She wants kids. I'm not the guy for that. It came up 2 years ago, but was shelved until now.Hmm.. what happened there?45 and now single. Girlfriend is gone and now so is my car.
Sorry to hear.She wants kids. I'm not the guy for that. It came up 2 years ago, but was shelved until now.Hmm.. what happened there?45 and now single. Girlfriend is gone and now so is my car.
The new CLA class.Coupe....not a family sedan
Audi A5 (or used S5)
Mercedes C250 or C350